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Such waxes philosophical about controlling tagging. A savvy spray-can statesman, he feels that a summit meeting between a city task force and taggers could go a long way toward creating d‚tente between the two factions.

"If you can channel the energy that goes into tagging into making art," he says, "you'd be able to eradicate vandalism. The city of Phoenix needs to sit down and discuss the problem with the taggers face to face, then something could be done to solve the problem. Give them legal walls, give them free paint--then you won't have the problem.

"Countries have meetings like that," he adds, "so why can't we?

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