NT: So you defy the archetypal sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll credo?
DD: I'm not going to pretend that I'm some idiot who never went to school. I'm not going to go around in a top hat with a syringe sticking out of my Adam's apple. Personally, we're probably not very different from the people who come and see us.

NT: Wait a second--have you actually taken a look at the people who come to see you at club shows? Virtually unemployable.

DD: (laughs) Well . . . But you know, we read a lot of the same books, go to the same movies, we probably listen to the same music, which is why it doesn't surprise me that the Jesus Lizard is becoming more popular. I tend to think that our tastes are not much different from the people who check us out.

NT: Obviously, Lollapalooza's a major boost in exposure. What's it like playing as one act on a blockbuster bill rather than as a club headliner?

DD: It was remarkably easy for us and it didn't take much adaptation at all. The only concession we've made is in terms of some of our songs. In bigger places where the reverberation time is longer, certain pieces just didn't sound good. Any piece that had a highly detailed or asymmetrical, jagged quality turned to mush. It's physics. So we're doing what we call our Arena Rock set.

NT: Any sordid tales to report from the festival front? Have you caught Courtney Love doing anything vile?

DD: Not really. I made it a point to introduce myself to her early on. I'd already met her band and they all seemed really nice, so I had their bass player take me into the dressing room so I could meet Courtney. It was pretty funny. She said something to the effect of: "So, am I the fat girl you come talk to when your friends aren't looking?" She is a pretty big gal.

NT: The good ship Lollapalooza comes to shore in Phoenix soon. What's your impression of our city?

DD: Big hair and muscle cars, and a lot of strip joints. It's definitely an odd place. People's brains are sunbaked or something. Last time we played there, this guy--a local folk singer of some sort--approached me in the parking lot of the Sun Club. He was almost in tears. He goes [whimpering]: "Would you guys want one of my cassettes I just made?" So I said, yeah, okay. He goes off and comes back with a box full of cassettes. We said, "Well, we don't want this whole box; we've got nowhere to put it. How about just one?" And he goes, "Oh, I hate you guys," and he threw the box down and ran off. I think he used to work at the Sun Club.

NT: Speaking of peddling tapes, word of a lucrative record deal between the Jesus Lizard and Capitol is in the air. What's up?

DD: We keep doing the same thing, except that a different record company will be putting out the records. And we'll make a little more money. For us, the indie-versus-major thing was never a moral issue. It was Touch and Go Records (the Lizard's longtime label) against everyone else. We had gotten treated so well for so long that we really didn't want to leave, and it wouldn't have been in our best interests to do so. Until recently. As the band became more popular and opportunities came our way, it became more obvious we were in a position to tell a major label what to do.

The Jesus Lizard is scheduled to perform on Saturday, August 12, on the Lollapalooza main stage at Desert Sky Pavilion. The festival begins at 2 p.m.

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