Mars Face-off

Letters from the week of December 12, 2002

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Fire alarm: I just finished reading your story on the Central Garden and Pet Supply fire ("Fire," Robert Nelson, December 5). I just wanted to congratulate you on your investigation. Part of me feels like I should apologize for my own ignorance. I worked in that neighborhood and remember seeing the smoke as I was driving down the freeway home. I had no idea that the damage was so severe, not only to the environment but also to the neighbors.

Thank you for the well-written story and for enlightening Phoenix residents. I'm sure everyone who reads the piece feels the same disgust that I do at the irresponsibility of the local government and industry. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Tony Bowers

Space Oddity

It's out there: One should just take a peek at another awesome Mars Web site by another independent researcher, Joseph P. Skipper at, to realize that NASA is caught between a rock and a hard place on what should be the biggest story of the millennium ("To Spite the Face," Quetta Carpenter, December 5). The search for the truth using real science is the goal here, regardless of who is doing it, not silly accusations which only continue to fuel time-wasting debate.

The "Face on Mars" is just a small part of this incredible story and a possible diversion from the other Martian areas of interest. Take a look at this Web site and prepare to take a journey to another reality. We are definitely not alone. In fact, it is downright scary when one ponders the future sociological implications when, not if, this truth does hit the fan.

Joe Lee

Money on Mars: It's nice to see that someone is finally looking into what happens to all the information that we the taxpayers are footing the bill for. How can anyone claim that the data is property of ASU, and therefore not subject to the Data Quality Act? ASU didn't pay for it -- we did!

Matt Michalik
Via e-mail

Space case: I enjoyed your article but felt you used some subtle images to give the reader the impression that Richard Hoagland is a crackpot. I am no mindless zombie-like follower of Hoagland, but sometimes he does come through with some convincing points. And does anybody truly believe that the government always tells us the truth?

Oh, hope you realize that bamf stands for "Bad Ass Mutha F@&$er."

Name withheld by request

Secrets and lies: Thank you for being one of the first to take the whole matter of the ASU/JPL/NASA misrepresentation of the THEMIS data seriously.

I recommend in the strongest terms that you read Richard Hoagland's book The Monuments of Mars and Dr. Stanley McDaniel's report (referenced in the book) to get the background of this whole fiasco. You won't believe it.

By the way, Richard is far from a "preacher." He's a scientist who tells what he finds. If you read his book on this, you'll understand where he's coming from. Science is a game that anybody can play, provided they play by the rules. Submit their data for peer review, explain honestly what they did and, as Nobel Prize winner Richard Feynman said, "The hardest part is to not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."

Richard is on to something, make no mistake. NASA's history of lies is way too extensive to cover in one article, let alone one book. But Richard's book will give you the general idea. I don't want to prejudice you. Just read the book and draw your own conclusions about who's telling the truth here.

Once again, thank you for having the courage to take on an issue that the mainstream press avoids completely!

Robert Trevithick
Williamson, New York

Seeking resolution: I feel the one proof that the ASU infrared image is a fake is the fact that you can't get to a higher res[olution] image from a low-res image. If Photoshop or any other software were used to enhance/sharpen the image, this would be apparent to the professionals all over the world who work with such software. Look at all the false pictures we have had over the years, and any bright individual can see they are fake.

We are being kept in the dark, but times are changing. The world is changing very fast, information is more freely available (well done, Internet). People are lot more intelligent than in times gone by, and the government cannot continue to fob us off. Also, more nations are becoming space active. I can't see most of them keeping mum; the U.S. is not one of the most favorable countries in the world.

Shaun Clifford
Via e-mail

It's still out there: I have known Mr. [Keith] Laney for about two years and in fact was part of his initial graphics training. He has since moved well past my skills, as he has learned his craft well. He cannot, however, create the type of image that ASU claims he did. The opposite is true, actually. The image now on the ASU site can be created from Laney's image; Laney's image cannot be created from the currently displayed data. You should try this yourselves, and then you will know the truth.

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