The Real Rip-Off Report

Ed Magedson calls himself an advocate. His enemies call him an extortionist

It was only after that fiasco that he met Mesa attorney Dale Thorson — and discovered his second act as a consumer advocate and Internet entrepreneur.

Thorson was doing estate planning for Magedson's parents, and got to chatting with Magedson. Thorson was impressed with tax work Magedson had done for another family member and told him so. "The kid is brilliant," Thorson says. "Just very, very intelligent."

Magedson asked Thorson if he had any clients who needed help. Living with his parents, his expenses provided for, he wanted to use his skills to get justice for people who needed it.

A book that Magedson has self-published, now available on his Web site.
A book that Magedson has self-published, now available on his Web site.
Magedson's Rip-Off Revenge guide.
Magedson's Rip-Off Revenge guide.

Thorson asked him to take a look at a case involving an elderly couple who'd been screwed by a rug cleaner. Magedson ended up recouping their entire investment, Thorson says, and the couple was grateful to have avoided a court case.

As for Thorson, he was thrilled by the energy Magedson devoted to his task — and that the fledgling advocate refused to charge the people anything for his services when he was done.

In no time, Thorson says, he was asking Magedson to assist a number of people who'd come to him needing help. "He's not this slick guy," he says. "He's the Columbo guy" — like the TV detective played by Peter Falk, whose awkward manner can conceal a sharp mind and an uncommon persistence.

"There isn't a challenge he didn't take on," Thorson continues. "I can't think of one where he didn't get positive results. Sometimes the client didn't want to keep going on the case, and they'd drop it. But it was never because Ed wanted to give up."

Magedson began distributing a flier, promising, for $250, to help people fight against a corrupt City Hall or companies that had screwed them. He says he never actually charged the fee; instead, he used it to weed out people who weren't serious about pursuing their claims.

He began to hone a process of just how to fight The Man, to develop a formula that really worked. He was planning to write a book. (Today he sells that book, a slim paperback, from the Rip-Off Report for $21.95. Not to give away a trade secret, but the formula basically comes down to threats to picket, and then picketing.)

One day in the mid-'90s, visiting a shop owned by some of his former swap-meet tenants, he says, he met a woman who designed Web sites. Hearing about his unusual line of work, she asked him, "Why don't you make a Web site?"

And that was the start. Before that, Magedson says, "I didn't even know how to turn a computer on." But the site, a simple ad for his advocacy services, took off: "I got people to call me. I thought, 'Gee whiz!' Because I didn't believe in the Internet."


From Magedson's initial foray into online advertising, the Rip-Off Report may seem like an obvious outgrowth today, with everyone doing business on the Web.

But Magedson was ahead of the curve. In 1998, when the Monica Lewinsky scandal first became public on a Web site called the Drudge Report, many Americans didn't even know how to access the Internet, much less use it to their advantage.

But that's the year Magedson registered the Rip-Off Report Web site. And like the Drudge Report, another early online juggernaut, www.RipOffReport.com wasn't just a static presentation hawking a business. It was the business.

Today, the Rip-Off Report seems old-fashioned next to even the simplest blog. It has none of the clean functionality that Google has perfected; it's a mad jumble, plagued with technical problems. More than half of New Times' searches on any given day ended in futility; the site lacks the technical capability to handle its own content. (Magedson says a long-awaited redesign should be online within the month.)

One reason for the tech problems is the site's massive volume: On top of the 225,000 initial complaints, the site has layer after layer of businesses' rebuttals and readers chiming in. And though it would probably increase the site's user-friendliness if posts of a certain age were deleted, Magedson doesn't like to get rid of anything. You can still get complaints dating back at least six years.

It doesn't help that the Rip-Off Report has a fairly low standard of relevance. An entire category has sprung up with people complaining about adulterous partners. At last count, it had 207 entries.

Magedson pays a team of stay-at-home moms to vet posts for obscenities and social security numbers. But beyond that, he admittedly finds few things too scurrilous for publication.

For example. Consider this post about a man who's identified by first and last name and hometown. The man is, "Lindsey" complains, "nothing but a loser. He steels [sic] from everybody including his own family. Not to mention he beats his own mother. . . . He spends all his time and money on drugs. No wonder he has no life."

Or, less personal but no less toxic, the Maryland hospital where nurses are alleged to "cut bodies open after they kill people" and steal organs. Or the Scottsdale communications company that's alleged to have "scammed millions of dollars from honest people."

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ChakersCellmate
ChakersCellmate

FYI -- if anyone is looking for more information about Darren Chaker, please try to be patient -- he's currently serving time in federal prison, so that makes it kind of hard for him to respond to emails:

http://www.fbi.gov/houston/press-releases/2013/man-sentenced-to-federal-prison-for-bankruptcy-fraud


However, the judge who sent Chaker to prison was smart enough to recommend some much-needed mental health counseling for the guy, so hopefully when (and if) he gets out, he'll be a nicer person.

darrenchaker
darrenchaker

Revealing information about the law firm who represents RipoffReport can be seen here,  http://jaburgwilk.blogspot.com/ and is a compilation of records, including a past sexual molestation charge against RipoffReport attorney David Gingras. 

Enjoy! Darren Chaker

Google-Cide
Google-Cide

Darren M Meade, of Kairos-Meade, announced publication of its Internet investigation teams report on legal challenges issued by Rexxfield; Rexxfield’s majority partners, and its founder Michael Roberts.

[Case Numbers: 30-2011-00468719; 30-2012-00557149; 1:11-CV-00169-DN]

According to court documents, a meeting occurred on 1-28-2011 between Rexxfield partners in which Michael Roberts and Paul Portelli conspired to cast Ripoff Report in a false light and accuse Ripoff Report of “extortion” through a systematic Internet smear campaign (page 67).

Certified court reporters transcripts allege Rexxfield’s plan to usurp the revenue stream of the most widely recognized online consumer advocacy website (RipoffReport.com) and launch its own replacement ‘platform' (page 73 of transcript).

According to court documents, Rexxfield partners discuss a public relations fear campaign that would help them sell their reputation management services to worried parents.

“I would love to run an underground campaign that says, ‘Google is trying to destroy your reputation,’” an executive on the call is heard saying. “I like the idea of, ‘the more popular you are, the more dangerous it is,’ and giving people the scare tactic of, ‘the more exposure you have … the faster it is for your enemies to attack you.’”

“I think there’s a whole other campaign where we can break the parents,” the executive continued. “Send them a picture of their kid with a gun in his mouth -- Google did it. ‘Little Johnny is going to commit Google-cide. Can you stop it?’” (Court audio here)

According to court documents, Rexxfield an online reputation management company, Michael Roberts had commercialized an injection source code. The code purportedly offered consumers negative report removal from private webservers including Ripoff Report and Google online property BlogSpot. Recent Fox News exclusive had also exposed a plan called “Google-cide” -- a campaign designed to scare parents of children defamed online into purchasing the services offered by the new online reputation enterprise. Experts cited by Fox News has said altering websites by injecting source code is illegal.

Meade said that he had begun an unrelated investigation into Roberts & Portelli in February 2011. Meade's, investigation caused him to speak with Ed Magedson of Ripoff Report, in December of 2012. That conversation led to Kairos-Meade, receiving a copy of Michael Roberts, March 11, 2011 alleged extortion attempt, “That allowed us to connect the dots from Roberts / Portelli’s alleged extortion conversation on January 28, 2011.

According to court documents, Meade in August of 2011 had the opportunity to speak directly to the United States District Court Central District of California and address Honorable Cormac J Carney for case number SACR 07-00249-CJC at the sentencing hearing for two of the partners in Rexxfield. Meade provided details of the organizational structure of the ORM entities and a two-step process of coupling the creation and posting of online defamatory materials in a fee-for-service of removing of the content from online consumer advocacy websites.

According to court documents, Meade said once he discovered the technology was hacking and what its implications were, he made it his mission to warn the public about the dangers this technology poses in the form of automated cyber bullying and free speech. He also understood the institutionalized repertoire of serial defamation, vexatious litigation, and death threats have all be leveled against him in a futile attempt to force him to retreat from his stated goal.

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JungleBoi

They can serve him via public notice if he cannot be found.  I have used the techniques to get service that I paid > $3,000 for but kept being told I had to come back and fix yet something else in my car.  Only after using his techniques did the dealership act.  I had tried conventional means.  didnt work.  I recommend his site and techniques, used honestly to get bad businesses to deal properly with their customers.  He may be whatever you want to call him personally, I didn't even know his name before today, but I am grateful to him for the info.

BadForPeople.org
BadForPeople.org

Hello,

If you are willing, would you please make your visitors aware of our attempt to organize victims of RipOffReport.com in order to put enough pressure on Google, Yahoo and other search engines to completely de-index RipOffReport.com from search results. Although Ed Magedson is a heartless opportunist, if it weren't for the search engines he would be irrelevant to the rest of the world.

www.BadForPeople.org

http://www.facebook.com/RipOff...

https://www.facebook.com/group...

https://www.facebook.com/badfo...

Thank you in advance,Michael Roberts. Organizer

rob
rob

They posted a lie about myself and my biz that i ripped people off and took their money, which is a bunch of lies. They don't care who they hurt. Then i started receiving emails to remove it from their site for a fee. But i have one trick up my sleeve. All i have to do is get a new domain, which is pain

Dutyfree
Dutyfree

RIPOFFREPORTSUCKS.COM is for sale - aqzq33@yahoo.com

Lisa Rodriguez
Lisa Rodriguez

my best friend's ex and his new wife put the address and phone number of the home of his young children on a nasty and untrue posting about his wife on this site. i fear for her children's lives now because everyone knows she is a single mom alone, she was pregnant and other kids where under 3 when he left her. if anything happens to those kids I will be sure to let the local news know that the info was on this site. this site is disgusting, they put her email plead to them on the page itself for everyone to see and refuses to remove the personal info. She uses an alias now, in a few months court date to change her name.

Janicejake2002
Janicejake2002

Sure Jack I am happy to talk with you. If you post a disposable email address I can make contact that way. I will watch for your comment.

Janicejake2002
Janicejake2002

I posted about a scam on ripoff report in good faith. Ripoff Report gave my details to the company and they posted that I committed serious crimes, made death threats etc-just as a measure of revenge. They posted a comment urging everyone to harass me, posted my mobile and work number. after threats of physical violence were made I literally begged the editor to remove the comment and my contact details. I did not receive a reply. I have an unusual name and had a responsible high level position. I lost my job.

I am now suing, not ripoff report but google for refusing to remove the links. I do not live in the US and the CDA does not apply here. Some of the period covered by my lawsuit predates the libel tourism act. I recently discovered that google removed links to ripoff reports about a high profile firm in my country without having to go through this lawsuit and I think a couple of companies paid off the ed to remove the links from google. I guess we will find out at discovery.

It will hit the media soon and I will post a link here.

KillReport
KillReport

These animals are posting lies calling me a child molester. There has never been any accusations like that in my life but this RipoffReport crew of extortionists think that they can extort money from me. What is most likely to happen here is that someone will just hunt these animals at RipoffReport down and kill them all along with their affiliates. There how's that for freedom of speech you filthy whores.

Nadine
Nadine

You know, if my name was Darren Chaker and if I had lots of very embarrassing information in my background that I wanted to hide from public view, I would probably be VERY careful about posting a bunch of garbage and lies about others. You just never know when someone might decide to make you the focus of an intense investigation into your background, criminal history, personal past.....

Emily W
Emily W

I really feel badly for Stephanie Gingras. Her husband David and I had a relationship several years ago and he has recently been communicating with me asking how I am doing, you know the big lead up to lets have drinks. That got David in trouble in the past so I think I will stay away from this perv.

Tiny Tino
Tiny Tino

I think he and his family should get a taste of his own medicine.

Fourth Horseman
Fourth Horseman

Coming soon public records from Jaburg and Wilk representation of Ripoff Report's attorney David Gingras. Yes, it's Jaburg and Wilk represented Gingras who, after employing Gingras, did so despite the fact he was arrested for sexual conduct with a minor. Maricopa Court Case Number: S-0700-CR-1999093685. Also, Public Records from Gingras' state bar record which is lengthy. www.jaburgwilk.com/ Of course a few words (and pictures shopping) about Gingras' wife, Stephanie Gingras are soon to come too. Stay tooned . . .

Kim Smith
Kim Smith

James P. Rogers. He is Ed's personal assistant and he has recorded conversations with Ed Magedson proving some really damaging stuff.

Seth Myers
Seth Myers

David Gingras, who still appears to hold himself out to be part of law firm of Jaburg Wilk , is in house counsel to Ripoff Report. http://bmhm.com/attorney/David...

Gingras was charged with sexual conduct with a minor, some may call child molestation. See below link to court record. Although the case was dismissed, it was NOT dismissed because Gingras was innocent, but only because the appellate court found the State took too long to arrest him.

What's almost as disturbing is the fact Jaburg Wilk deals with family law matters and it appears they failed to perform a basic record search that would have shown Gingras' alleged past while in law school. Local and national news has investigated Gingras’ company for extortion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...http://www.superiorcourt.maric...

John Brewington
John Brewington

Maybe they did do record and check and this is the kind of lawyers they want working for them.

Darren Chaker
Darren Chaker

David Gingras, who still appears to hold himself out to be part of law firm of Jaburg Wilk , is in house counsel to Ripoff Report. http://bmhm.com/attorney/David...

Gingras was charged with sexual conduct with a minor, some may call child molestation. See below link to court record. Although the case was dismissed, it was NOT dismissed because Gingras was innocent, but only because the appellate court found the State took too long to arrest him.

What's almost as disturbing is the fact Jaburg Wilk deals with family law matters and it appears they failed to perform a basic record search that would have shown Gingras' alleged past while in law school. Local and national news has investigated Gingras’ company for extortion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...http://www.superiorcourt.maric...

Shawn
Shawn

www.clickanerd.com/jw-redirect... - is the old jaburg and wilk sucks dot com. The issue of David Gingras being a child molester is juicy but not the real story. Ed Magedson had this employee named James Rogers. James Rogers was ordered by Ed Magedson to create fake Yahoo and Google email accounts and then post fake complaints on ROR using these fake accounts. I have this admission on tape. You can listen to this confession at the above URL. It is my intent to call all of Magedson's other victims on his CAP aka extortion program and let them listen to the recordings. Everyone has been trying to prove this, I have succeed at proving that Ed authors reports, pays people to make up reports and shakes them down. I have filed a claim in Federal Court in Phoenix Arizona in Judge Wake's Court. I intend to prove that Ed Magedson is engaging in Wire Fraud and his actions are both Criminally and Civilly actionable. If you have been screwed by Ed Magedson, I would like to hear your story. Call me at: (254) 690-6373 or email me at Shawn@ClickaNerd.com. I beg you not to be afraid of this ass clown Magedson. He is just a thug that will sit in front of an Arizona Jury and account for his actions.

Shawn R.
Shawn R.

http://www.JaburgAndWilkSucks.... - has been removed. The Court did not order me to take this down. David Gingras (Ripoff Report's) Main Attorney now, was charged with 12 counts of sex with a minor over 15 but that case was eventually dismissed because of either a procedural or due process issue. I have a copy of the original complaint from the Chandler Police Department against David Gingras if any one would like to see it. My Email is Shawn@ClickaNerd.com My Cell Number is (254) 291-4696.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Maria Crimi Speth at Jaburg and Wilk in Scottsdale Arizona is in partnership with Edward P. Magedeson in this scam operation called Ripoff Report. Why hasn't some one arrested them all yet for extortion?

Tonymihelcic
Tonymihelcic

does anyone know anyting abot the "INTERNATIONAL SUPPLEMENTS"company and the products they supply and are they safe to use

Tonymihelcic
Tonymihelcic

Where can we report now the rip of people and company that do the wrong things to consumers.

Maria Speth
Maria Speth

Kevin Michael Sianez aka Edward Magedson was charged Friday in Santa Ana Superior Court with 63 criminal counts, including 20 felony counts of grand theft by false pretense. He also is charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit sexual assault on an animal, after detectives discovered the bestiality-seeking Craigslist ads during their investigation.

Prosecutors say he did little or no work on cases after charging clients between 2005 and 2010.

Sianez was an officer in Stanton and Santa Ana from 1979 to 1986.

A phone listing for Sianez was not available.

He is scheduled to be arraigned Monday.

Jack
Jack

Would you be willing to discuss your situation with a US attorney who is building a class-action against ripoff report at the moment? If so, please respond and we will somehow try to find a way to touch base away from this forum and yet without disclosing e-mail addresses etc. I have subscribed to this thread with a disposable e-mail address, so I will get a message when you respond.

Ripoff Report
Ripoff Report

I can assure you our staff did not write anything like that. What report are you referring to?

isobot
isobot

@Nadine you know, if you play that game long enough, you'll end up screwing with the one person who will track you down and put an end to your stupidity too. People think they can hide forever, and they always find out the hard way such isn't the case. I'll enjoy the day I read where someone finally served justice on e man.

mikesanto70
mikesanto70

@Fourth Horseman  if you have dirt on his old lady please share with me because she fucked me over and I'm going to pay here lying ass back!!!

CarlySimon
CarlySimon

You're a jizz-guzzlin' deadbeat narcissist with too many shirts.

Boppinbob83
Boppinbob83

This crum uses his site to exstort money from buisness owners. After a bride with the class of a garden slug posted a coment about my company. I was emailed by five sleezbags wanting a $1000 plus dollars to remove this report. All five are owned by Ed magedson

Lawrence
Lawrence

Is Ed Magedson an Kevin Sianez both in Jail?

isobot
isobot

@Ripoff Reportit's fun as hell watching you hide like a little coward in fear for your life.

 
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