Stiffler, still agitated, yelled, "I did not know his correct age until I just found out from Brian!"
"Stiffler did not appear to be embarrassed about having sex with a 12 year old, but he appeared ashamed that he had sex with a 29 year old," Diskin wrote in his report.
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Yavapai County Sheriff Steve Waugh presents a "Certificate of Appreciation" to Julie Bradshaw, left, and two others at the Mingus Springs school for helping unravel the Rodreick case.
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During the questioning, Diskin commented on the new flat-screen television, computer, and PlayStation Portable in "Casey's" room, presents from Stiffler and Snow. He asked Stiffler if he would have given presents like that to a 29-year-old.
"No!"
"Why not?"
"Because he can work and go out and get his own TV!"
Nellis explained to Diskin, and Stiffler, that Rodreick had told him not to ever tell Stiffler and Snow his true age. Nellis said he didn't know Rodreick was "playing them as a 12-year-old" until Stiffler and Snow paid for Nellis to fly from Oklahoma to Arizona two years ago.
Rodreick, Nellis, and Snow were arrested. At the least, they were convicted sex offenders who had failed to register as such in Chino Valley.
Stiffler wasn't arrested at that time. After all, he hadn't had sex with a 12-year-old. Apparently unbeknownst to him, he had had only legal consensual sex with an adult.
Investigators then began to collect evidence from the trailer. They were most interested in the computers, DVDs, and videos.
As they did, Stiffler, still apparently upset, muttered several times:
"I didn't know he was 29."
Over the following week, investigators sifted through the evidence and combed the four schools Rodreick had briefly attended for possible victims.
They found little other than shocked parents, children, and teachers at the schools. Sure, Casey looked older than 12. A few saw the makeup and the facial stubble. But he generally kept to himself.
He was 29? Unbelievable!
It was weird enough to make national headlines.
Investigators continue to look for potential victims from the four schools. They fear victims may be embarrassed to step forward.
They are also concerned there may be a victim among the members of the skating club Rodreick formed in El Reno, Oklahoma, before moving to Arizona. There, he posed as a 13-year-old.
Along the trail of Rodreick, Nellis, Snow, and Stiffler, from California to Oklahoma to Arizona, investigators found a few cases of potential fraud and several cases of the men failing to report their crimes to local communities.
But by far the most damning and disturbing evidence came from the videos and computers taken from the group's trailer home in Chino Valley.
On January 25, Sergeant Huante and another detective began viewing the images taken from the trailer, looking for evidence for the trial.
They found hundreds of examples of child pornography in one shoebox alone.
In that box, they found a Memorex CD with seven files recorded on it. The seven files, which contain images of male juveniles performing sex acts, may be all that's needed to keep Neil Rodreick behind bars for life.
The sixth and seventh files are the most disturbing, according to the police report:
"They are what appear to be home movies of Neil Rodreick and a young blond male who appears to be between the ages of 10 and 13 years old. The recording appears as if it had been made in a motel room. The boy is witnessed on the bed wearing a T-shirt that has 'Minnekah 2001' printed on the front of it. Minnekah is a city in Oklahoma where Rodreick is from.
"Rodreick is seen in the video on the bed with the boy. Rodreick masturbates the boy and has the boy do the same to him. Rodreick performs oral copulation on the boy by placing his mouth on the boy's exposed penis. Rodreick then appears to penetrate the boy's anal area with his penis and also rubs his penis on the boy's penis."
Rodreick's face is very clear, "and there is even a point in the recording that exposes several moles he had on his back," the investigators wrote in their report.
In the video, "the boy [name redacted] is aware he is being recorded as he wanted to view the recording to see how it is progressing."
Investigators immediately began searching for the juvenile.
They found him when the boy's mother contacted authorities after seeing stories about Rodreick. Investigators also found child pornography on the hard drives of the computers found in the trailer.
In all, more than 1,300 child-pornography images were found in the trailer, which will probably lead to federal charges against the four men.
All four have now been charged with conspiracy to commit fraud and conspiracy to commit forgery, and Rodreick, Snow, and Nellis were charged with failing to register as sex offenders.
Most serious: Rodreick faces felony molestation charges stemming from the videotaped sex with the Oklahoma boy. Because he has an earlier conviction, Rodreick could face life in prison if convicted in the case.
As the charges have piled up, Rodreick's attorney, Steve August, has begun amassing evidence that Rodreick himself is a victim.
He may have a case, at least for some mitigation in sentencing.
"One thing to bear in mind is that, thankfully, there are no alleged victims of any sexual offense within Arizona," August tells New Times.