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Ivory 02/25/2008 6:02:00 PM
Come check out a few of AZ's dopest " Crackers" as the new times likes to put it. Along with the More "Authentic" black rappers ....oh these people. This friday Feb 29th @ Canvas 1011 n 3rd st Phoenix. Tha Formula (New times best of winners though they never recieved any type of write up at all????) Ivory, Knawledg, Dem Rascalz, and more 10 doller cover, hit me up www.myspace.com/ivory for tickets!!!
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Emil Pulsifer 02/12/2008 12:41:00 AM
Sorry, the correct track title is "I Wished On The Moon" from the album "Swinging On The Moon". Don't know why I can't get these things right the first time.
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Emil Pulsifer 02/12/2008 12:34:00 AM
I really can't speak to the whole "wanna-be" issue, since I don't listen to this sort of "music" regardless of who voices it. To be perfectly fair, however, I must admit, after listening to some early Crosby the other day (Bing, not David) that Der Bingle was (uncharacteristically) most annoying and artificial when trying to sound like one of the "jive cats" -- I believe that's what they're called -- in songs like "Yes, Indeed", so perhaps there is some validity to the criticisms voiced by New Times staff. (Der Bingle is reported by Wikipedia to have been "hep" on the Mary Jane, and one can almost smell the smoke on that and similar tracks.) On the other hand, if KC and the Sunshine Band (or the frequency with which they've been sampled) is any indication, then Whitey does occasionally "get it". That said, I'm now going back to Mel Torme singing Wishing On The Moon. Gotta love The Velvet Fog at the height of his powers. You go, White boy.
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ShotCaller 01/30/2008 2:09:00 PM
Niki is a lesbian, you idiot. If you read the paper, you'd know that. Maybe you should observe a little harder.
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observer 01/29/2008 7:16:00 PM
Sounds like Nikki D'Andrea allowed her personal fetish for thuggish looking black men to cloud her judgment of what is "real" and "not real" in the world of hip hop.
Another stupid white girls senses warped by MTV.
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rasheedah 01/29/2008 6:15:00 PM
that was a trite bill o'reilley style opinion - with commentary that was both ill-informed and ignorant. like someone mentioned previously, saudis, turks, armenians, iranians, and egyptians all are considered middle eastern with cultural links that are broad. if her connection to the hip-hop community is real then that's all that needs to be said. if someone is willing to judge a hip-hop scene and call it "authentic" while referring to other hip-hop as being otherwise then a) i want to see that they've don't their homework and know that rapping about socially and politically charged issues has been and always will be at the heart of art form - an art form that many both black and non-black have long been a part of. unfortunately, the bloodsucking music industry tapped into the popularity of a certain kind of rap and marketed it in a manner so that that's all that people ever hear, it's all that gets played. and many in the hip hop community are furious about that. there's room for everything and the thug life isn't the only relevant life that hip hop does/should represent. it's a part of it. appreciating and making use of an art form is something that should be applauded and hip hop is the modern incarnation of blues and jazz which was birthed from an experience but lives and thrives through its diversity. hip hop, unlike what you're "pecking," continues to be one of the most openly and comfortably diverse music genres you'll encounter.
b) if you're going to claim something to be authentic or defend someone for making the assertion that something is authentic while something else is not, be prepared to have your credibility, authenticity, and authority challenged and have tough enough skin to accept and qualify your reasoning because from where i sit, you're defending someone who should be defending her own comments and playing into the same hate-mongering that you claim to dislike in your immigration discussion. just a note - just because someone's skin is lighter, doesn't mean they have a robe in their closet - a room could be full of asian americans, latinos, native americans, middle easterners, and whites and could all look quite similar from a distance. people should have an option when listening to music. and should not feel pigeonholed into an "outsiders" definition of what an authentic experience should be as a black person, a hip hop artist, a member of a certain community, or a shock writer. and i'm sorry, it is ok to call a statement racist - if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....
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Emil Pulsifer 01/29/2008 1:48:00 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8712855233622005537&q=rundgren&total=844&start=40&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6
White man rap, 'tis true, but at least the lyrics have something to say. From Todd Rundgren's No World Order album.
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Giulio Sciorio 01/29/2008 12:04:00 AM
I think Niki did a great job covering the scene. Kim Commons is sad not to advertise because of the article. I've been going to Blunt since day one and try to make it down as often as I can.
I never even knew about Groove Candy until I covered it for New Times and I probably wont go to GC much because I'm not a fan of the venue. Plus I really like the scene that Blunt has created over the years. Where else you gonna see Crown City Rockers in AZ and have the MC jump off stage to break with the b-boys on floor? Blunt. Oh yeah seeing Public Enemy at Blunt was rad and so is all the sweet local rap I see there too.
I think both GC and Blunt are of great benefit to the community. Hey it's Arizona and its' about the only culture we got.
You did great Niki.
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Emil Pulsifer 01/28/2008 1:36:00 AM
Dear me, I meant to write "Star 97.5".
Anyhoo, I just wanted to add that, regarding Mr. Eminem, I believe he refused permission to Weird Al Yankovic to do a parody cover of one of his, er, songs. Granted, it was likely food-oriented and demode, but honestly, doesn't this sort of cowardice make him a...a...[consults dictionary of underworld slang] a punk-assed bitch?
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BlackasNight 01/27/2008 9:06:00 PM
Forgot to put Lil Spank from Phearless on blast too. Fake ass gangsta. Fake ass playa. Phearless dont even have its own website, y\'all! Just a piddly Myspace account.
Know why they call him Lil Spank? Cause it\'s little and he like to spank it.
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Emil Pulsifer 01/27/2008 8:36:00 PM
I'm sorry, and "hip-hop" means??? It seems to refer to some genre of popular music, though my dictionary describes it as a subculture of big-city teenagers which includes rap, break-dancing, and graffiti. Could this be what replaced my beloved Star 95.5 some months ago?
At any rate, I really must beg to differ with the writer when he claims that the message of the movie 8 Mile is that "you can't step to the mic and be a punk". Though I've not seen this particular example of cinema verite, I have seen Mr. Eminem, accidentally, while changing channels between reruns of News Radio and Frasier, and I can say authoritatively that he is the very embodiment of a punk. Indeed, judging from the irritating noise I sometimes hear spewing from passing motor-vehicles, being a punk is de rigueur in the, er, field of endeavor to which he has applied himself. (I refer here to the crass and infantile narcissism by which the semi-evolved practitioners of the craft attract legions of equally moronic and vulgar fans, not to the distortion-ridden, screw-loosening, high-intensity vibrations emanating from car trunks and attempting to pass as music -- though that is also irritating and consistent with the term "punk", provided that by this one intends "a worthless young hoodlum" and not some more idiomatic usage.)
Does anyone (aside from professional sociologists who are paid to study such phenomena) really care about the inter-group dynamics of this particular element of the lumpenproletariat, whether White or Black? I know I don't, except to berate them as the cultural poison which they are. Good evening.
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BlackasNight 01/26/2008 11:10:00 PM
This shit is almost as funny as the shit BigPunwannabe Martin over at Phearless is screaming in Xpoz about everybody in the scene but him and his little krew of ex-cons. Esse is seriously delusional. In five years I predict he'll be baggin produce at Food City, if he aint already. Or in prison sucking black cock where he belongs.
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R U Serious 01/25/2008 7:23:00 AM
Peanut Butter and Jelly decide which one is "Keeping it Real"
PB - "I'm the real sandwhich deal"
J - "When you're on the bread, it just looks dead"
PB - "I can shake it just like you but I'm so smooth I don't have to"
J - "@#$% smooth, your @ss is funky and I saw yo' sista' an she's downright chunky!"
PB - "You're spread too thin and I swear you're fruity and you cousin jam is downright snooty"
J - "Everyone swears your @ss is nutty and when your cold you're no one's buddy"
Silly huh, just like the arguments in this thread and just about as important. Ask Fiddy or Snoop if they'd like to give back white money from tickets, or hats, or posters, or .....
nuff said.
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number88 01/23/2008 2:55:00 PM
"What is "trying to be black"?"
well, you know like Jamie Kennedy on the movie Malibu's Most Wanted, I've personally met a couple of guys just like him, except they're not rich!
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erik d 01/22/2008 7:50:00 PM
What is "trying to be black"?
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number88 01/21/2008 8:45:00 PM
c'mon people you have to admitt a white guy trying to be black doesn't look good.
it's very different when a white guy likes the black culture, food, music but trying to be one looks kid of funny!
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ForeverYours: ) 01/21/2008 8:36:00 PM
This, and the column on The homie Will has been far too much. I know, have met, and have held conversations or networked with every last one of the people, except your writers, mentioned in your articles and its quite saddening how they have been talked down upon or dissed by all of this.
After reading every word of all the responses... I think it all comes down to letting these writers do just that, write about it...while all of us that are actually involved or doing it be about it. We are the real that do this and live this. Not some story writer. We know what's up.
It's just another eye trying to give their definition of something they dont live or know nothing about, but construct it to feed a mind of someone who knows nothing of it. I myself am on the frontlines of AZ graffitti. And have been for many years. I bring this up only as an example of course. An example because it's also is given a bad rep, misrepresented, misdefined,etc. when people try and see it from the outside, rather than being a part of or living it/doing it day in and day out or going through the struggles of trying to make state or national attention.
Fubu, Vanilla Ice, Racism, Wigga, White crowd at Blunt Club. So, so sad.
Well done New Times. Write about it.
A'z up...Be About It.
PS-Dad, if you're reading this from Cali, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna be sending you the latest New Times in the mail any longer.
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HaterAid 01/21/2008 2:23:00 PM
Wow. Who knew Phoenix rappers were so delicate? All this bs bout love and unity makes me wanna puke. No wonder their little scene has never and likely will never bust out beyond the confines the valley.
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GRIME 01/21/2008 6:46:00 AM
I like that the article made me laugh, I did not like that the article did not address any of the points that Karlie or I made, which were that Phoenix is much more diverse than just black/white, and the New Times tried to create tension between two different hip-hop scenes were none previously existed. I'm not sure where the 'Wigga' term fits in, it seems inconsistent to me to argue in one article that the Blunt Club doesn't accept blacks and in the next article that the people at Blunt Club want to be black. Maybe that's because it's two different writers with two different perspectives, but I would assume you guys would want to settle on a position before you criticize anyone else's. Stephen is a good writer, and I have great respect and admiration for the work he does on the 'anti-illegal' movement, but the piece is more of a defense of New Times than a serious response to the criticisms of Niki's article. I agree with many of his points but that's only because he didn't really challenge any of mine. In our interview we both gave a little on our positions but unfortunately none of that made his article, on the other hand I understand that this is a column so it is what it is. Anyway, the respect is mutual Stephen. I also actually have a lot of respect for Niki as well, who has said extremely gracious things about me in the past and has made a good name for herself at New Times. However, I still feel that your article is irresponsible, and the consequences of it are now being felt in our community. Your piece has created several rifts, some of which I can speak on and some I cannot, some which can be resolved with a sit-down and some that cannot. You have to remember that you're writing about hip-hop, and while you might talk about the roots of hip-hop you still lack a real understanding of that community. I commend you for putting the Phoenix Hip-Hop scene on the cover of New Times, but the way you went about it has upset many people, some of whom do not fit so neatly into your Blunt Club VS Groove Candy paradigm, and unfortunately, most of that anger is not being directed at New Times but amongst ourselves in the Phoenix Hip-Hop community. Ironically, while New Times ridicules people for speaking out against the article, those same people are putting in real work to clean up your mess. I'm sure you're working on a new story by now and have moved far beyond Phoenix Hip-Hop, but we have to stay here and do our best to smooth out the rifts that have been created by your mangling of our community. As far as the Blunt Club and Groove Candy are concerned, these two nights have coexisted for several years now without any real problems. There are indeed two scenes in Arizona Hip-Hop, but although they are separate they are not divided. Your article brought animosity and conflict to a community where there was none before, and now your fabrications have manifested into reality. It is a shame really that the media machine has so much power over something as rebellious and independent as underground hip-hop, but when the dust settles I hope this will be a lesson to all of us. Like I said before, Arizona Hip-Hop is much bigger than Blunt Club VS Groove Candy, and so are the problems that have come about because of your article. We will be in the trenches doing our job, I just hope the next time you write about Phoenix Hip-Hop you do yours.
PEACE
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StallionNazi 01/21/2008 3:54:00 AM
"Fat Bigot Bastard with Feathers" and "Feathered Bigot" are both todd stallion, the most obscene cryptoneo-Nazi fucktard in maricopa. count the # of times stallion uses n-word. this shitsucker lights KKK crosses with his kerosene farts.
stallions a psycho troll. now i read he's found jesus. says he has tourettes and is now takling thorazine for it but the thorazines havent kicked in so he still uses n-word. someone please alert authorites that stallion needs the next padded cell. fucking bucktoothed mesa piece of shit freak.
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Karlie Hustle 01/20/2008 11:40:00 PM
www.learntodanceyouwhitefuckers.com
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Fat Bigot Bastard with Feather 01/20/2008 9:29:00 PM
"The point was, that it was mass media like TV and Movies that spread the idea that white people couldn't rap or dance."
You mean mass media... Like this Fucking article? In this Mass Media Newspaper. Your mental gymnastics are a sight to behold.
How many non-whites do they have writting articles at the New Times? Perhaps if the New Times wasn't some Dinosaur of White 1970s liberalism, some fat ass like Lemons might not be calling people white Niggers.
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erik d 01/20/2008 7:27:00 PM
The point was, that it was mass media like TV and Movies that spread the idea that white people couldn't rap or dance.
That idea didn't originate with the New Times.
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Racist Feathered Bigot Bastard 01/20/2008 7:12:00 PM
"The New Times is local, alternative media, not mass media"
The New Times is the Village Voice Corporation which has a circulation of about 1.8 million. Calling something "alternative" does not mean it is not Mass Media.
I suppose the new definition of alternative thanks to Stephen Lemons is hate of Whites and Niggers
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erik d 01/20/2008 6:51:00 PM
The New Times is local, alternative media, not mass media.
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The Judge 01/20/2008 4:57:00 PM
you ever seen a white person dance? aha, they look like frickin chicken clucking hen-house pecking seed-pickers! yall white folks need to stand still, shut up, and get a job in the media.
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mav of sol camp 01/19/2008 10:04:00 PM
check this doggies...we been trying to unite the scene for a long time
here is a preview of phoenext the dvd feat artist from both crowds giving love to all
feat willy northpole, grime, sol camp karlie hustle and alot more it was on mtv and mtv2
here part one
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4P7omWxC3v8
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Karlie Hustle 01/19/2008 9:27:00 PM
www.karliehustle.com
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Todd Stallion 01/19/2008 7:23:00 PM
"He's been brainwashed by the mass media mind manipulation machine just as much as anyone else."
WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING... Lemons is a featured writer for the Phoenix New Times which is MASS MEDIA
Lempns and the New Times are what you call Left Gate Keepers. Check out this Bullshit from your hero Lemons:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-08-09/news/the-yoda-of-9-11/
I guarantee 99% of the Arizona Hip Hop community thinks that that article is total bullshit
I bet this lines up more with how they feel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5WlQ54Sg0
Again... How many of the Lefties at the Phoenix Times are NOT WHITE...
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erik d 01/19/2008 6:07:00 PM
Listen:
Everybody is under the delusion that white people can't rap or dance. That is a racist assumption, but it's infected the entire society, not just Lemons.
He's been brainwashed by the mass media mind manipulation machine just as much as anyone else.
Racism is ignorance.
Hating or denouncing anyone for being ignorant is equally ignorant.
If you're more enlightened on a particular topic, then respectfully enlighten someone else.
There's no need for hate or threats.
Just speak your peace.
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Racist Bastard 01/19/2008 5:39:00 PM
"Which is the non-racist form of the word."
Total Bullshit.
A white person calling a black person a Nigga gets his ass kicked just as hard.
"Don't get so caught up on people's words... look at their intent."
The Intent was to claim that White People act like Niggers when the rap.
Which begs the question...
Does he hate Whites or Niggers? Or Just whites when they act like Niggers?
"The guy is not a racist... in every back issue I've been reading, he denounces racists and racism"
He feels that by screaming everyone else is a racist he can get away with his own racial prejudice.
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erik d 01/19/2008 5:09:00 PM
But he didn't say "wigger".
He said "wigga".
As in "what's up my nigga?"
Which is the non-racist form of the word.
Like he said, it was a joke to belittle those people who mistakenly called D'Andrea a racist.
Don't get so caught up on people's words... look at their intent.
Lemon's intent was honorable, even if his way of expressing it was misinterpretated by some.
The guy is not a racist... in every back issue I've been reading, he denounces racists and racism, so cut the man some slack.
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Feathered Bigot 01/19/2008 4:45:00 PM
Wigger... White + Nigger
The Feathered Bastard hates when white people act like Niggers
The Feathered Bastard thinks only Niggers Rap
The Feathered Bastard therefore thinks White people rapping means White People are acting like Niggers
The Question therefore is does the Feathered Bastard Hate Whites, or does he Hate Niggers?
How many Non-Whites write at the PHOENIX NEW TIMES anyways?
Maybe the Real questions should be why Village Voice Media, would allow this Bigot Feathered Bastard to write this Divisive shit. Who gains by dividing Blacks and Whites up really?
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The Scientist 01/19/2008 2:45:00 PM
its melanin. and its a proven fact that lower levels of it inhibit the brain and prevent the ability to form simple rhymes.
melanin=dope mc.
no melanin=wack mc.
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White Souljah 01/19/2008 12:23:00 PM
Real name? Like Karlie Hustle? Is that YOUR real name? "shakes head"
No, you won't find me on MySpace under that name or any other. I don't have a MySpace page and don't intend to.
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Karlie Hustle 01/19/2008 3:46:00 AM
Hey "White Souljah"...is that your name? Can I find you on MySpace under that? Do tell. It's a lot of internet ghosts on here that talk behind fake screen names. Have some balls, losers. It sucks when a female has more heart to stand by her words than some grown men do. *shakes head*
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White Souljah 01/18/2008 9:54:00 PM
I think the "R" word has been thrown around a bit much here. The issue is less the "R" word and more the "I" word (Idiocy).
Comment by Karlie Hustle � January 18, 2008 @ 12:32PM
You're right Karlie. Remember, that "idiocy" applies to your own posts as well. Methinks you'd be better off just disappearing outta' here before you do any more damage to yourself. Then again, it may already be too late.
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Oliver Hope 01/18/2008 9:47:00 PM
Go Arizona! This is a great thing for people see about our culture and community when we "break though"!
...lol
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Old White Guy 01/18/2008 9:46:00 PM
Don't know nuthin' 'bout dancin'
That's why I'm singin' this song
One of my legs is shorter than the other,
One of my feets too long.
Course now right along wit'em,
I got no natural riddem
But I go dancin' every night
Hopin' one day that I'll get it right!
I'm a dancin' fooool,
I'm a dancin' fooooool! - Frank Zappa
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rrr 01/18/2008 9:05:00 PM
OMG, most of the people posting here seem like they have no Idea what the New Times writes
Do your research about what type of journalism the New Times is before calling them racists and criticize them.
This is no Arizona Republic idiots!
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John Brown 01/18/2008 8:46:00 PM
White people cant jump. Or rap. Or dance. Or be true to themselves unless they play guitar for kick-ass rocknroll bands. White people should stay away from pretending that they can produce culture. White people have the role and responsibility of strictly consuming and critiquing culture. They are white-bread control-freak European dorks handicapped by their lack of melatonin. I feel sorry for them. Didn't anybody see Billy Hoyle? He cant slam dunk. He's a wuss that can only make 3 pointer shots. Sidney Deane can slam dunk, that proves it right there.
White men cant jump, or rap.
Repeat after me.
White people cant rap.
Now shut up white rappers and get job at a paper, or something where writing can really come in handy.
Ok, now who wants to send in a cd and perform at the new times hiphop showcase?
Non-whites only.
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Jeff Spicoli 01/18/2008 7:45:00 PM
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine....
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GOD 01/18/2008 7:42:00 PM
I love watching you scream at eachother about an article that was informative. If you read "racism" into this story, I would suggest a 4 yr. degree. After that time, come back to the article and read it again. If you still think this article was to "Stir Shit Up" - I would then suggest an 8 yr. Degree. If after this time, you fucking idiots still think the same thing about this article, then I'm afraid you're doomed. You will always live in fear & missunderstanding.
Ps - Vanilla Ice named himself after two white substances. Coincidence? No.
That guy is a total racist!
Pss - My last 'ps' was to give you dumbfucks something else to yell at eachother about.
Pss - I ate a dog today with the Caveman. Tasty..
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Ra 01/18/2008 6:54:00 PM
Comments keep disappearing and reappearing every time I load this site.
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Ra 01/18/2008 6:52:00 PM
The New Times likes to practice censorship of this site by deleting comments they don't like, and leaving the more controversial ones up, in order to stir up more conflict.
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Almighty Ra 01/18/2008 5:34:00 PM
Sorry to diss Willy by shit talking, but it's really the lying New Times I was lashing out at, and I couldn't resist the bait offered in yesterdays letters page cartoon calling Willy's name stupid. I don't even know Willy Northpole, but I wish the cat all the best in his career. The sooner he blows up, the better for the whole AZ. Go Willy, and Fuck the New Times.
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Karlie Hustle 01/18/2008 5:32:00 PM
I think the "R" word has been thrown around a bit much here. The issue is less the "R" word and more the "I" word (Idiocy).
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MEXICANO 01/18/2008 5:18:00 PM
this article is worse then the other one. whats wrong with you new times. putting out sick ish like this. you all are trying to start something that dont need to be started.
BUNCH OF RACIST FUCKS.
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RA 01/18/2008 5:03:00 PM
By the way, Willy Northpole really is the stupidest fucking name for a rapper that I have ever heard in my life.
What is he, a fucking penguin?
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Ra 01/18/2008 5:01:00 PM
If, as Lemons claims, blackness is the true measure of real hip hop, and Vanilla Ice was so wack and untalented, then why were most of Vanilla Ice's early fans black?
I'm talking about before he ever got a record deal and before he got huge... most of his fans and concert audiences when he first started out was composed of primarily black people, and they liked him and his music
So, what the fuck kind of bullshit is Lemons and the New Times trying to perpetrate now?
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Hugh Mility 01/18/2008 4:06:00 PM
And yes, I am important... - Karlie Hustle
Yes, you are important and unique, just like the rest of us.
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Jim Carrey Says... 01/18/2008 2:56:00 PM
Jim Carrey and FX are racist too.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A7tLVIsuNw
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Vanilla Ice 01/18/2008 2:21:00 PM
There are to sane people in this comment thread. Me, and the Caveman. Hopefully, this video will end the debate..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yaam0p_BA&feature=related
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Todd Stallion 01/18/2008 1:32:00 PM
Stephen Lemons is a total racist, his gimmick of calling everyone a racist, is totally weak.
The New Times is a piece of shit filled with douche bag liberals from the 1970s, the kind of people that think that its ok for them to NOT practice what they preach...
This Newspaper is dying, the Internet is going to kill it off. It may have served its purpose once, but anyone can put up a blog or post a story on the Net, Lemons is attempting to use racism by calling whites Niggers to promote his crap
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EyesonthePrize 01/18/2008 4:54:00 AM
Dont trip. My boy Lem is constanly exposing neo-Nazis and Klans and bigots. Thats why they hate his ass.
New Times and Lem are always standing up to REAL racists like Russell Pearce and Sheriff Joe.
New times fought for MLK day.
New Times fights for the undocumented.
New Times fights against Sheriff Joe.
New times fights KKK and neoNazis.
Lem was defending his coworker. People on Azbeats were calling her racist. He pointed out a lot of people doing this was whyte theyselves. Thats it. And that was true.
Some dont like that he used the word wigga. But I hear lots of yall using the word nigga even when your not black.
The real racists on here dont even know the difference between "nigga," "wigga" and "n*gger."
Lets break it down.
"N*gger" is what white racists use.
"Nigga" is what black folks call themselves sometime.
Yes, "wigga" is a "white nigga," but not a white "n*gger."
A wigga is a phony. If your white and dont want to be a wigga just be real. You can be hiphop, just dont pretend it. Be it.
Keep yo eyes on the REAL racists. They was at Pruitts. They up at Maceualli. they have guns. they want to scare all the Mexicans away. You think these people believe in MLK? In a MLK day? Hell no.
lets lower our voices.
lets think BEFORE we speak.
lets increase the peace.
remember MLK
march on MLK day
and keep your eyes on the prize.
Shout out to Karlie Hustle. Shout out to Niki, our lesbian sista. If you knew her, you wouldnt be down on her. Reach out instead of hating. Shout out to the brown black yellow white gay, as long as they being true.
Remember MLK. Think about how he would act and react. THINK.
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pac0naut 01/18/2008 3:49:00 AM
New Times Staff,
Wow, I see reading comprehension was not your strong point. Let me reiterate what I said since you didn't understand it the first time.
You said "most people here seem to think {Stephen} is a racist." WHERE DID I SAY THAT? Go back, re-read, and then point out the quote to me, as I did not write that quote. In FACT, do a "find" on this page and you'll notice that nowhere in this page other than what you wrote does that quote appear. How did you just attribute a quote to me that I never stated? Certainly you aren't a proofreader are you?
Now... on to the crux of the matter...
"And now I am a racist because you say so? Because I know Stephen? So if you know a bigot, you must be one too? Maybe you are. But I suspect you're just an internet banger with 23 minutes of fame. Live it up brother. You have 14 minutes more."
Are you serious? Go back and again, re-read what I wrote. I clearly stated that you are NOT racist by association. What I said was this:
"And yes, of course I could call you a racist and then the burden of proof lies on you, however, you've done nothing (assuming you aren't Stephen) to show that you are. If I did call you a racist, what basis would I have for it? What Stephen wrote is deliberately racist, you're defending Stephen which makes you racist by association, I rebuke you for being a racist. Was that supposed to be how this played out? Typical straw man argument? Sorry it didn't happen, maybe you'll have better luck next time. Thanks for playing."
Let me reiterate some key footnotes for you Staffer:
1: I COULD call you a racist with no basis, but why? There's no proof that you are on my part.
2: The argument that I used about you defending Stephen is called a "straw man argument." Let me explain. I have an opponent on this subject, which is you. I overstate your position by creating a lie about it and therefore strengthening my position by attributing the fallacy to you. Unfortunately for you, that's what I believe you were trying to do...bait me into an argument. At no time did I say that you are unequivocally a racist, because you have said nothing to prove that you are. My point was very simple and you missed it: You are correct. I can call you a racist and then you have to prove that you are not. I said that I COULD call you a racist. I did NOT call you a racist because I have no basis for it. The only things I've seen from you are in these comments. I have no proof to call YOU a racist. Again, go back, re-read, take in context, and then respond. I was asking you if that scenario is what you had imagined playing out. You obviously tried to bait me and when that didn't work, you attributed a quote to me that I did not state, and then contorted my words out of context. Makes me wonder about the quality of journalism that your magazine produces....
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Todd Stallion 01/18/2008 3:31:00 AM
OH MY GOD! Newtimes Staffer... HAVE YOU EVER READ A STEPHEN LEMONS ARTICLE???
ALL HE DOES IS CALL PEOPLE RACIST, NEONAZIS, KKK ETC... THAT IS ALL HE DOES.
That is why Stephen Lemons is the World's Biggest Hypocrite.
By the way... How many Non-white writers write for the New Times??!?
Me thinks its probably about 100% down there.
But then again, singin and dancin is what them black folks do, writing in the big important newspaper is what white folks do, maybe that is why Stephen Lemons hates Wiggers?!
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New Times Staffer 01/18/2008 3:25:00 AM
paconaut, You say: "most people here seem to think {Stephen} is a racist." I see the same 12 people commenting over and over again. 498,000 people a month read the New Times, where only 12 post on this blogs. It stands that those who seem to know the least are the ones that know the loudest. Just like you paconaut. And now I am a racist because you say so? Because I know Stephen? So if you know a bigot, you must be one too? Maybe you are. But I suspect you're just an internet banger with 23 minutes of fame. Live it up brother. You have 14 minutes more.
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pac0naut 01/18/2008 3:06:00 AM
New Times Staff,
Okay, so you got the "what debate is being sparked here" part of my comment down. Good for you.
Transparent? Really? Was I supposed to be cryptic? Tell me, how do you prove what Stephen wrote is NOT racist? Please explain this to me. You claim I pulled the "racist card". I didn't pull the card, Stephen pulled that card out of the deck himself. Opinion solidified by experience and fact is one thing, talking our of your rear end is another. The main point of contention with Niki's article was that you don't have to uplift one thing by putting down and disrespecting another. I understand Stephen feels the need to defend his colleague...that's respectable. Using the word "wigga" is not.
You don't have to accept my opinion, heck, you don't even have to respect it, but it still remains what most people have written here is what Stephen wrote was racist and not even opinion based. There's no test needed for that. The burden of proof does not rest upon my shoulders, it rests upon Stephen for what he wrote and the verbiage he used as well as the personal insults to Anglo and Karlie. And yes, of course I could call you a racist and then the burden of proof lies on you, however, you've done nothing (assuming you aren't Stephen) to show that you are. If I did call you a racist, what basis would I have for it? What Stephen wrote is deliberately racist, you're defending Stephen which makes you racist by association, I rebuke you for being a racist. Was that supposed to be how this played out? Typical straw man argument? Sorry it didn't happen, maybe you'll have better luck next time. Thanks for playing.
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Cracker follower.... 01/18/2008 2:40:00 AM
boycott!!!!!!!boycott!!!!!!!!boycott!!!!!!! boycott!!!!!!!!!!!!!Wait, Hmmm?? scratching head >>>thinking
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NEW TIMES STAFF 01/18/2008 2:35:00 AM
Paconuat, I love your type. Transparent you are. The card you use is racist. Call a person a racist. I love it. Smart. Strategic indeed. When a person throws that word out, it forces the receiver of the tort to respond. The proof of not being a racist nows sits on the person you just called a racist. Problem is...how do you prove you aren't a racist? How do you prove you aren�t a racist (when you aren�t) without looking like you are a racist trying to prove you aren�t? It�s quite the puzzle. Should Stephen take a �race implicit association test�? Who's gonna craft it? You? Sure, then he'd would be a racist. Should I craft it so you could call me a racist too? God knows. Let God figure that out. In the meantime, think what you will. I respect your opinion, but I do not accept it. Best to you, New Times Staffer.
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Kali 01/18/2008 2:31:00 AM
Well shit... someone better tell cowboy troy country ain't for niggas!!! WTF you stupid bitch, where'd u get ur education? Art is art and last I heard it's in the eye of the beholder. rAre you trying to start a race war, just curious you otta look O*#@ Y@*$ S*@#!#@# !!! Put this story to rest hand in your fuckin resignation fool.........Cali
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CRACKER 01/18/2008 2:26:00 AM
NOT RACIST? Whos to say white or black is more hip hop... Thats complete garbage...I bet you hated when Eminem made his mark in the predominately African American controlled industry...
Wonderful whats next Sheriff Joe Vs White Rappers?
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pac0naut 01/18/2008 2:15:00 AM
"I am not sure Stephen hates anyone. Ask him. He writes a column. The column is meant to spark debate, comments and thoughts. Sometimes anger becomes a part of it. I dont like the anger myself. All told, I worship a sunrise, not a setting sun. The sun will rise tomorrow and anger will turn to more thought. Thought wins; always does."
I call B.S. I refer you to exhibit 1a:
"Is that �Ill Al the Anglo Saxon�? Close, it�s Jamie Kennedy from Malibu�s Most Wanted."
Exhibit 1b:
"This, despite the fact "Anglo" looks like he and K-Fed share the same gene pool."
Spark debate? Does Stephen even KNOW Anglo? Listened to his music? Know his history? Anything? Where's the thought? Comparing Anglo to Jamie Kennedy...where's the thought? That's a flat out attack.
Exhibit 2:
Calling Karlie "Hustlamanian." Are you kidding? Sorry, that's blatantly racist. What debate were we sparking again here?
"Pretenders"? I don't need to know Stephen to know that he knows absolutely nothing about hiphop. I also don't need to know him to know that he's a racist.
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NEW TIMES STAFF 01/18/2008 2:05:00 AM
I am not sure Stephen hates anyone. Ask him. He writes a column. The column is meant to spark debate, comments and thoughts. Sometimes anger becomes a part of it. I dont like the anger myself. All told, I worship a sunrise, not a setting sun. The sun will rise tomorrow and anger will turn to more thought. Thought wins; always does.
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azhiphop 01/18/2008 1:27:00 AM
first of all this article is just a man acting childish. calling other white people wiggas and dissing a scene they were just promoting. New times has never had good coverage with hip hop in az. blunt club was the only thing promoted for a long time like these people never go to the city. Az hip hop is getting bigger and it pains me to see that not one latino was mentioned in az. The first hip hop artists to get full play on the radio nbk and the hottest latin group out in az sol camp. Wow. Then again I didnt really think the first one was bad but the follow up was just wrong
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Todd Stallion 01/18/2008 12:59:00 AM
Nope sorry #39 is not me and the New Times can tell that.
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Anonymonymonymous 01/18/2008 12:49:00 AM
Case you haven't figured it out: #39 is Todd Stallion.
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Todd Stallion 01/18/2008 12:34:00 AM
NEW TIMES STAFF...
When Lemons is angry about folks acting like WHITE NIGGERS... what does he hate more...
The White Part?
Or
The Nigger Part?
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Hejus Trife 01/17/2008 10:56:00 PM
at the end of the day nerves were struck on both side.......its obvious that for such a scene that is heavily criticized.....people are paying attention.....and for such a publication to go as far as false screen names and visit azbeats with repeated sarcasm and insults doesnt demonstrate anymore professionalism than those who were offended.......truth of the matter is although the context directed towards anglo was out of line......it only raises the curiosity of those who dont know him.......like wow who is this guy that got the new times calling him names .....makes the paper look more like the aggressor.....good and bad has both come from the article..abit more bad than good......but a negative can always be reversed.....fact of the matter is hip hop (be it white, latin, or black) is here in arizona and its only gonna continue to grow.......the scene may have lost the first battle but the war is far from over......and its repeated insults from the media that fuels the passion of these artists even more......1 thing is for sure, the scene has found New Times (WEAK SPOT) and thats criticism.....cause anytime you can make a journalist/writer direct his focus on you (when he thinks less of you to begin with) when there are so many other stories to capture......you have truly delivered a pivotal blow to the machine and for that i take my hat off to both Anglo and Grime...as well as Karlie.........
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Caveman 23 01/17/2008 10:21:00 PM
Recent Article In New Times?
So easy to read a Caveman could do it...
Seriously folks, I just wanted to get my opinion in.
As a Caveman, I have personally witnessed the racial institutions here Az. It's not everyday, but mostly every few days, I get the usual "Go Back to the Ice Age you HOMOsapien!" yelled at me from a street light. In fact, just the other day, at Circle K, I was buying a 6 pack of Heineken - the clerk looked at me and asked - "would you like a lighter, too?" And then he giggled uncontrolably. I said "yeah dude, real funny -maybe if it was 12,000 years ago"....
As far back as I can remember - what has been largely unaddressed has been the caveman's mentality, demeanor and ethics. You don't see me screaming about my race outlasting dinosaurs, and how we invented cave art, do you? Why doesn't New Times give ME the time of day? Boy would I love to see a Caveman dawning the front of a New Times cover! (get it, "Dawning")
See, and that is the other thing, we are funny too.
Another misconception� most people mistakenly believe my intelligence was sub-par but this cannot be judged fairly by modern-day standards either. Intelligence is about fulfilling needs... resourcefulness.
And boy are we resourceful! For instance, If there were to be an apocalypse, and mankind ran out of food - I would be the first to cook the dog or cat. You wouldn't.
Take a good look in the mirror people. That attitude of yours? We created!
That great idea of yours you had earlier today? Done. We thought of that 6,687 years ago.
My point is this, these posts remind me of when I lived in a time of Anarchy. Quick movements cause alarm and an instinctual reaction.
Depending on an individual�s past experiences with strangers dictated how they would normally react under stress. This is EXACTLY what is happening. What are you guys high? Are you a bunch of "Stone Agers"?
Seriously, I should run for president. Caveman in 08'. Do you think New Times would endorse such a smart, hairy, and bumpy foreheaded man? Call me what you will - you could even call me a 'WIGGAMAN' if you wanted. Because guess what, I already thought of that term in 10,000 B.C. The only problem is that I couldn't talk yet...LOL!
It's cool. I will survire your prejudice.
For at least another 12 billion years.
Enjoy the fires. In the meantime, I have a cat to eat. Ta-Ta!
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Cole Black 01/17/2008 9:11:00 PM
Dang! Everybody so riled up over the freakin' hip-hop scene? Most people in this former home of nothing but Indians and Mexicans could give a rat's ass about hip-hop!! Jarret Maupin?? Please, he's a black man from the most upscale prep school in the state! And Karlie Hustle the DJ from Armoonia who affects a 'hood accent?? Now there's something you'd have to invent if she hadn't invented herself first!!
Give it a much needed rest folks! This thing is a non-issue! It's totally fucking laughable!!!!
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pac0naut 01/17/2008 9:04:00 PM
Great job New Times. The funny thing is, The Pigeo....errr, The Bir....errrr, Stephen Lemming.....errrrrrrrrrr Stephen Lemons is always calling out other people for being racist, and deservedly so. He does a good job at it and I don't think I've gone but a few articles where he doesn't reference the initials KKK. However, in one swift move, Stephen lifted his skirt and showed us his "little Hitler". I haven't heard the word "wigga" used since around 1994. It's now 2008. Are we still THAT backward in this state? Amazing. If you read the comments, Anglo hit it right on the head with the New Times endorsement of the word "nigga". Sorry Stephen, you just outed yourself. So remember, if you like hiphop and you're white, then you're a wigga. If you like hiphop and you're black, well..............
Hey, the New Times said it, not I.
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Ivory 01/17/2008 8:53:00 PM
HAHA with dimestore jokes. The "N" word as you want to put it now. None of the "White" people i know or associate with use it, and you will never hear it. I just pointed out to you what you were saying. Itz funny Cracka is a new one for you. Your racist vocab is getting better. Do you really believe using, cracka, wigga etc, is any diffrent than sayin wetback, spic,or any other form of racial slur? You are a mediocre journalist at best, with no common sense. You are losing this battle, only you are to ignorant to see it. We the "Scene" are winning by a landslide. If you only knew the measure of your negativity's positive effect for us!! Thank you
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/IVORY
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Stephen Lemons 01/17/2008 8:37:00 PM
Hey Ivory, just saw your MySpace. You any kin to Bubba Sparxxx?
I notice that crackas like you feel pretty free and easy with the "N" word. Not this cracka, however...
I'll be waitin' for you to blow up, Ivory. One more quarter-pounder just might do it.
Ill All, if you didn't exist, I'd have to invent you.
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KonGeror 01/17/2008 8:37:00 PM
This is Ridiculous.
-Kon
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Niki D'Andrea 01/17/2008 8:25:00 PM
Dear Karlie Hustle,
I'm disappointed that you felt you had to resort to derogatory, low-blow comments about me because you feel you/the scene/whatever was misrepresented in my story. I still have our interview tape, if you'd care to hear what you said for yourself. I would be hurt by your comment that I look "45," except that 1) I know it's not true; I still get carded for cigarettes, and 2) Insults only hurt me when they come from people I respect. And I have no respect for you whatsoever anymore.
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Ivory 01/17/2008 8:06:00 PM
Why dont you just say white nigga? Thats what you mean isn't it? You have only further proven your closet racist side. Your classless writing only further proves you are imtimidated by your staffs lack of knowledge. As to what the Phoenix Hip Hop Scene is really about. www.myspace.com/Ivory add me to your list of " Wigga's" , we win round 2!!! A'z UP!! Shout out to Karlie hustle, Ill Al, Willy Northpole, and all of AZ!!!!!
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ILL AL 01/17/2008 7:48:00 PM
...and now it's back.
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ILL AL 01/17/2008 7:46:00 PM
I just want it to be noted that I just wrote a very level headed response to that last comment and it was just deleted by the moderator.
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ILL AL 01/17/2008 7:40:00 PM
Firstly, I'm a grown man. I grew up in Central Phoenix and have lived all over Phoenix. I got into hip-hop while attending Simpson Elementary in the 80s. I was then as I am now very hearsed in hip-hop history and appreciate all contributions.
My friends are a very mixed group of racial backgrounds. I don't pretend to be black or any other race. I'm just me. I speak and dress I suppose one would say very much like your average white guy.
I have love for all races and cultures that very much includes the confines of hip-hop as well.
I did not call for a picket of the New Times. I suggested a boycott possibly. You'd be surprised at the more official political entities that are considering action at this point.
It's not just ArizonaBeats.com that is keeping up with this.
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Russell G. 01/17/2008 7:31:00 PM
Some Latinos have made contributions to hiphop. Few whites have. Lest you count their money. Go read some history.
The word wigga was used for the purpose of calling out white boys pretending to be black. It has its place as a descriptor. This Ill Al has been calling for boycotts, pickets, calling Dandreas article racist. As a black man, I find this laughable. Where did you grow up, son? Paradise Valley?
If whites or Latinos want to use African beats and call themselves hiphop, at least acknowledge the source. Otherwise you are as bad as Pat Boone ripping off Little Richard.
Take a look at that D.L. Hughley quote Al. When the cops do roll up and we are standing side by side, one of us is going to be treated different than the other. And that is real, my little white brother.
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Anthony Birle 01/17/2008 7:21:00 PM
EVERYONE! This entire forum is silly. New Times writes point-of-view articles. Big deal. They wrote stuff that you interpret one way. For every single person that sees it one way, another sees it differently. None of us ever see the same color red (or read the same thing from a single article). It is all based on OUR OWN POINT OF VIEW. Move on. The other millions of New Times reads like me have. Good luck to all.
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Koncept 01/17/2008 7:15:00 PM
You do realize that Karlie's Armenian heritage qualifies her as a "Person of Color", right? If you knew anything about her you would know that the first time she went on the air out here she stated that she's Armenian very clearly.
Seriously though, The Bird is showing a serious case of ignorance here. No one uses the term "wigga/wigger" anymore. It lasted about a year or so back around '95.
The attacks on Ill Al shows how petty you guys can be. This isn't "Magazine style journalism" as you put it, this was borderline tabloid writing. The article in question did not give a clear, honest view of the rap scene out here. It brought up two nights, divided them by race, and tried to stir up beef between rappers. There is no "black" or "white" scene; there's a hip hop scene out here. No mention was made of the Latino/Hispanic rappers out here, which I find suprising considering that MC Magic and his old group NB Ridaz have both hit various Billboard charts.
The article could have been more thorough in it's presentation. What started out as a being a good look for valley rappers ended up stirring up a lot of shit in the end.
Comb through www.metrotimes.com to see how it's done. Local rappers there always got shine. It's 2008, time to catch up New Times.
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ROK 01/17/2008 7:14:00 PM
I too initially read this "rant" last night and was taken completely by surprise. It is unfortunate that a publication like the New Times would allow something of this nature to be written by someone on their staff and worse yet posted on their website. Yes we are all allowed freedom of speech but that liberty has been taken too far. The use of the term "wigga" is incredibly racist considering where the word originates. As someone who reads the New Times frequently I am very disappointed in what I have read. Furthermore the nature in which this "rant" was written was I'm sure intended to come off as a joke. Unfortunately race, racial slurs and the like are not something to be used as jokes. Is this the message the New Times wants to get across to its readers?
-ROK
THE SOCIETY OF INVISIBLES
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OhMyFreak 01/17/2008 7:13:00 PM
Looks like Detective Browning was RIGHT about these anti-white freeeeeaaaaakkkkkkyyyyy freakity extremists. I�m beginning to understand their tactics and why their running so scared. Got to give it to you Lemmons, you�re investigative journalism should be commended and the fact that you�re not backing down � rare, indeed. Lemmons, Browning and Gascon you are clearly MEN with balls aka grande cajones.
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ILL AL 01/17/2008 6:59:00 PM
I don't care what this person's opinion is concerning me. I don't mind taking heat for standing up for what I believe is right. There were no valid points made so I can't retort to any. All he did was attempt to stereo type me by race (pretty much what this whole thing was started over) and he makes fun of me. Big deal, so to that I have nothing to say other then I feel as though Karlie Hustle, GRIME and myself have all been more then professional about voicing our opinions however in-your-face they may be. The New Times responded with name calling and racial slurs.
This brings me to my only issue with this nonsensical response from The New Times.
In the original article, AZ hip-hop veteran Roca Dolla makes an important statement about the reason why Arizona has been skipped over by the hip-hop music industry.
Roca Dolla said, "When the record labels first started looking for more hip-hop artists, Evan Mecham was the governor here, and he opposed a Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and that made a lot of people angry. We should have been on the map years ago, but because of politics, we were kind of blackballed from the industry."
Now, only days away from Martin Luther King Jr. Day (that thank God we do honor here in Phoenix now) we have The New Times printing outright racial slurs. If you read the response from New Times writer then I know you are already shocked. He repeatedly uses the term, "wigga".
For those that may not know what that means, it means White or Wannabe N**ga. He's outright saying that every white rapper in Arizona...and by his own definition, every white rapper that isn't Eminem...is a "wigga".
So I ask him this. If I am a "Wigga" because I'm white and make hip-hop music / partake in hip-hop's culture...then what are you calling African-American people that do the same?
...don't like that do you...didn't think about that did you?
When you use the term "Wigga" you are dropping and condoning the use of the "N" word in the same breath.
The term "wigga" is something racist or ignorant people use to dub white people who partake in hip-hop culture...and it IS in direct offense to both white and black people.
...right, nice one "the bird". People who don't hold racist beliefs can say very racist things. I think that's what is happening here. It's called irresponsible.
Hip-Hop was founded by African Americans, Puerto Ricans, whites and other races. That's what makes hip-hop so great is that it's something we are all involved in and have been since the beginning.
In conclusion, the whole point was that AZ hip-hop artists should be acknowledged for their accomplishments and not by them being the "enter race here, rapper" who finally took AZ national...even if that's the case.
The controversy These New Times writers have tried to create in order to generate views and move papers was through racial division. I'm glad that hasn't worked. Everyone I know involved in AZ hip-hop is proud of Willy Northpole and who ever else makes it to that level...so in the end The New Times ends up just looking like..."the dumb ass" as you so eloquently put it.
PS: Thanks for shinning some light on AZ hip-hop though. For that part I do thank you.
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Karlie Hustle 01/17/2008 6:42:00 PM
On the topic of not wanting to fuck me, that's a mutually-beneficial stance. I don't let internet pansies hit anyway.
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J-HOVA 01/17/2008 6:27:00 PM
I will when u will, Karlie Hustle. Ohmibad! I meant to say Karlie Hustleamanian.
Net ghosts? Whatbout radio ghosts? The ones that use a fakeass name on the air?
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offended 01/17/2008 6:24:00 PM
Mrs. Karlie, aren't ghosts white? Are you making this a race issue? Rascist.
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Karlie Hustle 01/17/2008 6:15:00 PM
There's nothing worse than an internet ghost...post under your real name, sissy boy!
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J-HOVA 01/17/2008 6:08:00 PM
karlie made nikis race an issue. now shes whinin cuz Lem called her out as a white girl. listen to her on power. she tries to sound hood. off the air she could be some scottsdale bzztch. then shes callin niki old lookin. karlie look like fuckin sinead oconnor with her cue-ball head. i wouldn't fuck her with todd stallions teeny dick.
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Chuck Norris 01/17/2008 5:47:00 PM
I am Chuck Norris and I read New Times.
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lizza 01/17/2008 4:24:00 PM
abajo con the lynch mobbers
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lizza 01/17/2008 4:19:00 PM
viva detective browning... viva chief gascon...
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Karlie Hustle 01/17/2008 3:50:00 PM
I've had a night to sleep on this, and I've discovered the real issue here. It seems New Times was upset to find out I'm not half black post-print on the "Raising Terrazona" article. After all, it messed up the credibility of the "real black rap scene" argument they went so hard for. Sorry to disappoint you guys. I was never asked in the original article about my racial composition, but I was sitting there plain as day looking not black in front of the reporter and the camera crew. You printed a photo of me. My flicks are all over the Power web site and MySpace. I'm in the community looking not black on the regular.
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J-Douche 01/17/2008 2:48:00 PM
This is zany J-HOVA the anti-Semitic NAMBLA member is an expert on Cock-ass.
Armenia borders Iran and Turkey and is located in Asia. Iranians are also "caucasian"
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J-HOVA 01/17/2008 2:30:00 PM
This is fuckin hi-larious. Todd Stallion the neo-Nazi defending Karlie the wannabeblackchick? Yeah, Karlie, maybe you can get the KKK to join the boycott! I bet theyd be down with the struggle.
As far as Karlie pretending to be black, thats old news. At least on the radio she dont have to rub on the burnt cork.
Just checked her MySpace. She claims to be middle-eastern. Reckon that sounds more hood than WHITE.
Armenia is in the Caucasus. Caucasus as in Caucasian!
Be proud of your Caucasian heritage, girl. Dont be shamed of it.
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The Student 01/17/2008 2:20:00 PM
Mc Einstein, I totally understand what you are saying. I have studied such things for years. For example, I once studied the corrilation between stupid, self serving hip-hop scenesters and the size of an east indian hippo. For example, some scenesters are so fat with silly thought that if a doctor diagnosed them with a flesh eating disease, they would have 100 years to live. Kinda like a hippo. The math says they have a 110% chance of remaining dumb and a .001% chance of hitting the 100% chance of chance. The math says it all.
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MC Einstein 01/17/2008 2:07:00 PM
First of all, The branch of "Rap" developed in the first part of the 20th century that was highly successful in explaining the behavior of whites, blacks (and all races) developed between 1900 and 1930 AND combined with the general and special theory of relativity, it revolutionized the field of Hip Hop. The new concepts, which were the particle properties of radiation, the wave properties of matter, quantization of physical properties and the idea that one can no longer know exactly where a single rapper such as "Willy" is at any one instance were necessary to explain all of the new experimental evidence that was available at the time. For example, quantum mechanics explains the behavior of semiconductors which are used to make the myriad of devices we use every day. Hip Hip is much the same. Isn't it all making sense yet?
For those who don't know - Quantum field theory is the study of the quantum mechanical interaction of elementary particles and fields. Quantum field theory applied to the understanding of HIP HOP is called quantum electrodynamics (QED) - huh, sounds like a great rapper name, and it has proved spectacularly successful in describing the interaction of light skin & dark skin with matter. The calculations, however, are often complex. They are usually carried out with the aid of Feynman diagrams (named after American physicist Richard P. Feynman - who was white, in case anybody cares), simple graphs that represent possible variations of interactions and provide an elegant shorthand for precise mathematical equations that could be translated to Down Tempo/Hip Hop Beats/Record Scratching/etc.. Quantum field theory applied to the understanding of the strong interactions between quarks and between protons, neutrons, and other baryons and mesons is called quantum chromodynamics (QCD) - another great rapper name; QCD has a mathematical structure similar to that of QED.
Does anyone catch my drift??
