WIGGIN' OUT

Grime, where's the inconsistency?: I like that the article made me laugh ("Wigga, Please," The Bird, Stephen Lemons, January 17). I did not like that the article did not address any of the points that [Power 98.3 DJ] Karlie Hustle or I made, which were that Phoenix is much more diverse than just black/white, and that New Times tried to create tension between two different hip-hop scenes where none previously existed.

I'm not sure where the "wigga" term fits in. It seems inconsistent to me to argue in one article that the Blunt Club [isn't frequented by that many] blacks and in the next article that the people at Blunt Club want to be black. Maybe that's because it's two different writers with two different perspectives.

Stephen Lemons is a good writer, and I have great respect and admiration for the work he does on the anti-illegal immigration movement, but the "Wigga, Please" piece is more of a defense of New Times than a serious response to the criticisms of Niki D'Andrea's article ("Raising Terrazona," January 10).

I agree with many of Stephen's points but that's only because he didn't really challenge any of mine. In our interview, we both gave a little on our positions, but unfortunately, none of that made his article. On the other hand, I understand that this is a column, so it is what it is.

I also have a lot of respect for Niki, who has said extremely gracious things about me in the past and has made a good name for herself at New Times. However, I still feel that her article was irresponsible, and the consequences of it are now being felt in our community. Her piece has created several rifts, some of which I can speak on and some I cannot, some of which can be resolved with a sit-down and some that cannot.

Niki, you have to remember that you're writing about hip-hop, and while you might talk about the roots of hip-hop, you still lack a real understanding of that community. I commend you for putting the Phoenix hip-hop scene on the cover of New Times, but the way you went about it has upset many people, some of whom do not fit so neatly into your Blunt Club versus Groove Candy paradigm.

And, unfortunately, most of the anger is not being directed at New Times but amongst ourselves in the Phoenix hip-hop community. Ironically, while New Times ridicules people for speaking out against the article, those same people are putting in real work to clean up your mess. I'm sure you're working on a new story by now and have moved far beyond Phoenix hip-hop, but we have to stay here and do our best to smooth out the rifts that have been created by your mangling of our community.

As far as the Blunt Club and Groove Candy are concerned, these two nights have coexisted for several years now without any real problems. There are, indeed, two scenes in Arizona hip-hop but, although they are separate, they are not divided. Your article brought animosity and conflict to a community where there was none before, and now your fabrications have manifested into reality.

We will be in the trenches doing our job [to smooth over the problems caused by New Times]. I just hope the next time you write about Phoenix hip-hop, you do yours.
Grime, Phoenix

White rappers are the fools here: If I were New Times, I'd write only about black hip-hop from now on. These white rappers (the word hardly applies to them!) are just plain fools. Big names in the black hip-hop scene in Phoenix don't wanna be involved publicly in this petty fight with New Times, but they're laughin' their asses off at these "wiggas."

And some [black rappers] are pissed off, 'cause what this is all about is: White folks don't like a brother on the cover of New Times. Pure and simple! They're jealous of Willy Northpole and all he's about. Which is that hip-hop is about the black experience.

And that makes these white folks who write in on arizonabeats.com and on [phoenixnewtimes.com] a big joke in the black community. And in the Latino community, where there are also some standout artists. Eminem, these white rappers ain't. They need to shut the fuck up!
William May, Tempe

True dat: Wow, who knew Phoenix rappers were so delicate? All this BS 'bout love and unity makes me wanna puke. No wonder their little scene has never, and likely will never, bust out beyond the confines of the Valley.
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Billy Southpole
Billy Southpole

Rap in Arizona? Who cares. There's a reason big labels don't give a shit about AZ rap, because it sucks.

Lily White
Lily White

They're jealous of Willy Northpole and all he's about. Which is that hip-hop is about the black experience.

And that makes these white folks who write in on arizonabeats.com and on [phoenixnewtimes.com] a big joke in the black community. And in the Latino community, where there are also some standout artists. Eminem, these white rappers ain't. They need to shut the fuck up! - Willie May, Tempe

Hey Willie! Ain't no one jealous of this Northpole fella! Leastwise, no whities! Dat's cuz us white hip-hoppas be all about da white experience. You got a problem wid dat???And you say we a joke in yo community and the Latino community? Lil' bro', don't none of us care!! No, us white rappas ain't Eminem, but we ain't shuttin' da fuck up!! Got dat, BRO'???Now, 'scuse me while I go finish my black-eyed peas and cornbread, and wash it all down wit some Cobra!

 
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