I think you're "Apt37" and you fixed the wiki page, so you would have something to write about. See how easy it is to throw around BS, huh?
By New Times
By Connor Radnovich
By Robrt L. Pela and Amy Silverman
By Ray Stern
By Keegan Hamilton
By Matthew Hendley
By Monica Alonzo
By Monica Alonzo
• In November, a user noted — accurately — that a pair of citizens had launched a recall campaign against Thomas. "If the recall effort is going to be added in here, it needs to be pointed out it has little chance of succeeding," Apt37 wrote.
Technically, the edits are permissible. "There's no policy that a living person can't adjust their biography or even write their own," says Jay Walsh, a Wikipedia spokesman.
But it's not the way the encyclopedia is intended to work. Walsh stresses that citizen editors are supposed to be neutral. And just about anyone would admit it's hard to achieve neutrality when you're as enamored of your subject as Apt37 is. (See that bit about Andrew Thomas being a "leading authority on the criminal justice system.")
At one point, another user complained about Apt37's edits, "The user APT is clearly altering this Wikipedia page to remove any negative information about Thomas. The article should include both positive and negative." That's exactly right — one good reason why we need Wikipedia biographies in addition to a politician's official Web site.
It's not as though Thomas is the first politician suspected of having his finger on the "delete" key. There was a pretty big scandal a year ago when researchers determined that a bunch of congressional offices were editing their own pages. Wouldn't you think Thomas, or Apt37, would have learned from that one? Better to let your biography show your warts than to prove just how obsessive you are about removing them.
But here's the saddest part.
All those Apt37 edits last fall were made in the evenings: 9 p.m., 10 p.m., even 12:57 a.m.
So, while Thomas' appointment of his former boss as a special prosecutor against New Times backfired, and a groundswell of public anger forced Thomas to fire the guy, Apt37 hunkered over his computer, long into the night, systematically deleting the controversy.
He couldn't get the real media to stop dogging Andrew Thomas' record. He couldn't stop the flood of negative coverage.
But on Wikipedia, Apt37 could rewrite the story. With his persistent edits, Thomas could remain a valiant crime fighter, not the guy who hired his old boss for jobs beyond his ability.
Ultimately, though, the critics won. For all Apt37's efforts last fall, today Thomas' Wikipedia bio contains just as much controversy as ever.
Really, it kind of makes me feel sorry for Andrew Thomas.
I mean, Apt37.
So here's the one thing more pathetic than Apt37 obsessing over Andrew Thomas's online biography: It's the Arizona Republic, which ought to know better, serving as an unwitting platform for paid lobbyists.
Journalists like to get all high and mighty over Web sites like Wikipedia. You can't trust contributors because of their biases, we harrumph. Look at politicians editing their own biographies. Look at public relations experts creating fake user names to praise their own products.
But in the age of the Internet, newspapers are hardly better. These days, their goal is to let community voices be heard. Inevitably, that means people with troubling conflicts can get their voices into the mix — and in the Republic, recently, without any disclosure of their conflict.
Every Sunday, the Viewpoints section runs a feature called "Plugged In," a series of 100-word blurbs from "people plugged into the news and politics of the day." (It's supposed to draw attention to the Republic's community bloggers, although many entries appear not to have run online first.)
On February 17, the section featured commentary from Joanie Flatt, a frequent contributor described as working in "public relations" and a "community advocate." Flatt's contribution was a rant about Republican legislators' opposition to speed cameras.
"The governor figured out that, by expanding the popular and successful Loop 101 speed cameras to other parts of the state, those who choose to speed 11 mph or more over the limit could make a 'behavior-related contribution' to the general fund," Flatt wrote. "This could raise $90 million, which could help pay for law-enforcement services."
Yeah, she's accurately describing the governor's proposal. But what's this "popular" and "successful" bit? The jury is still out on the Loop 101 cameras' impact — and I certainly wouldn't call the cameras popular. Frankly, the GOP is right to oppose the governor's plan. People driving a mere 11 mph over the speed limit should hardly find the entire state budget balanced on their backs.
But I'm sure things would look different if I were on the payroll of one of the photo-enforcement companies here in Arizona. After all, they stand to make millions if the governor's plan goes through.
Flatt just happens to be a paid lobbyist for one of the companies.
She never disclosed that fact. And neither did the Republic — either online or in print.
When I reached Flatt last week to discuss the matter, she confirmed that she's a lobbyist for American Traffic Solutions and that she does public relations for them, too. But the 100-word limit for Plugged In makes it difficult to fit in disclosures, she says, and so she opted against it.
"Everybody knows my client list," Flatt told me. "I didn't even think about it."
I think you're "Apt37" and you fixed the wiki page, so you would have something to write about. See how easy it is to throw around BS, huh?
missing from above for those searching for information:
Welcome to Thomasville!
Some surprising demotions, and a Republican babe at the new County Attorney's Office
How do we afford a deputy county attorney to send press releases as a full time job, with photos of herself attached to the articles? Self-promotion at tax payers expense! Disgusting!
from above: "I regret ever using Thomas's initials, perhaps that wasn't the wisest decision, but I never thought someone would write an article accusing him of modifying his own entry! For crying out loud, the guy has a Harvard law degree and runs an office of 1000 employees, do you really think he's dumb enough and has the time to modify his own wikipedia entry?"
The answer is YES! Look at all his internet sites -- Rachel Alexander busy sending them off to Germany and elsewhere. The taxpayer can't afford the waste of time, money and resources on the internet games the MC attorney's office plays.
I am a huge fan of Thomas (no relation), a self-professed computer geek, and the person who modified Thomas's wikipedia entry using "apt37" as the username. 37 is my favorite number, that's why I picked it. I regret ever using Thomas's initials, perhaps that wasn't the wisest decision, but I never thought someone would write an article accusing him of modifying his own entry! For crying out loud, the guy has a Harvard law degree and runs an office of 1000 employees, do you really think he's dumb enough and has the time to modify his own wikipedia entry? Now his campaign opponents are accusing him of modifying his own entry, which isn't surprising considering they're always lying anyways (aclutimwillsayanythingtogetele...).
You should retract your article. It's false and libelous. It's clear that because you can't find anything legitimately wrong with Thomas, you resort to false articles about him. Get a grip. He didn't modify his own entry, and I'll get this resolved with wikipedia one way or another to get it corrected. I really don't want to bring myself into this to be harassed but if I have to I will.
please visit www.tlc24seven.webs.com to see how Andrew Thomas is treating first-time offenders who are teenagers in the adult judicial system, without taking anything into consideration except how far he can use the law to support his upcoming election.
Great investigative work. If website manipulation is being done on Thomas vanity page, then one can only imagine how he or his cronies are manipulating other websites. Hope you investigate to where else they are going!
Just a correction to my previous comment which was stated ambiguously. It has not been lobbyist Joanie Flatt's influence peddling that has been at taxpayer expense, but rather her desired outcome of the influence peddling (her clients' expense) that has resulted in great taxpayer expense.
Kudos to New Times for exposing just the most recent conflict of interest matter by lobbyist and Arizona Republic darling Joanie Flatt. Joanie Flatt's self-serving influence peddling in Mesa at taxpayer expense has been going on for a long, long time, and she obviously has no qualms about selling her wares via the print newspaper and blogs sponsored by that same newspaper as she does. Push, push, push, write, write, write for her self-serving "causes." Unfortunately, with the Republic (specifically the "Mesa Republic") and with her printed columns headed and identifying her as a "Community Columnist," readers are misled into believing that she is a professional journalist which she is not. Joanie Flatt is not accountable to the Code of Ethics laid out by the Society of Professional Journalists. Many legitimate columnists are also journalists, and the newspaper that encourages the stuff that Joanie Flatt pumps out aids in destroying its own credibility. Too bad.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST SHOULD BE A FELONY! SINCE THIS STATE CRIMINALIZES EVERYTHING ELSE THEY SHOULD THROW THIS ON THE HEAP. PRETTY SOON NO ONE WILL BE LEFT ABLE TO FOOT THE BILL SINCE THEY WILL ALL BE IN PRISON IN ARIZONA. NO SCHOOLS JUST PRISONS, JAILS, PROBATION TO TRACK AND HUNT EVERYONE DOWN FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. AND THIS IS AMERICA?
Mesa Watcher thank you for the information that the public needs to be made aware of. You are doing a public service and we are sick of those businesses making millions in this state while the taxpayers suffer and have to foot the bill. The Photo Radar on the highways must be stopped! This is a disgrace. We're building prisons and and closing schools. How can we close Aztec School and have money for everything else especially the profiteers who make their money off the misery of others. Keep on watching, Mesa Watcher. We all need to keep a list of these names and haul them out during the election and rallies downtown.
Concerning the last third of this article on Mesa Public Relations flack, Joanie Flatt. She has a history of failing to disclose her clients, even as she shills online for them at the Mesa Republic. The Mesa Republic's editors whine that they can't possible police all the blogs, but Flatt's status is above any random anonymous blogger. Other bloggers are capable of providing a brief paragraph outlining their background and affiliations, so should Joanie. She has misled the public about her ties to any number of groups or campaigns; all the while writing as a "community columnist". Mesa Arts Center, Riverview, Property Taxes, American Traffic Solutions.
It's understood that she needn't disclose her *entire* client list, but please, when the topic at hand *IS* the client, full disclosure is in order!
After reading this last night, I went over to wiki to see for myself. It looks like therer must be someone assigned by Thomas, full time, to continue making sure that the wiki reference remains Thomas's own vanity piece.
Correction on above: they are NOT listed in "collectibles" where books might be $70,000. So when Thomas says he wrote four books does that make him a specialist in criminal justice? -- I think NOT. Especially if the book has so little value that it sells for slightly more than one dollar.
Looking for Andrew Thomas books, Theoline? You might try Amazon.com. The sell for a dollar and change in their "used" books. They are listed in "collectibles" where you thought you might have to pay $70,000.
Theoline, to answer your question, the "crime prevention" brochure is being handed out in the seminar packet County Attorney Andrew Thomas is holding in the area churches. Look in the small classified ads in your neighborhood newspaper and pg. 2 of the AZ Republic. Someone needs to find out the cost of the expensive pocket folder all the "hand-outs" are put in. It is navy blue, heavy stock, with metallic gold embossed logo, with County Attorney Andrew Thomas' name in very large letters. This is a pocket folder you would receive at a University graduation from medical or law school, certainly not in a taxpayers budget.
Andrew Thomas name was also printed in color on the notepads. A continental breakfast and lunch were served. All this is a waste of taxpayer dollars, in a county and state that is deeply in debt.
This "seminar" by the MCAO Conference given by County Attorney Andrew Thomas, appeared to be nothing more than deceptive election campaign tactics using the churches, as a way to collect names and addresses. If the motive were an honest one, then the ads would say "open to the public" and not ask for names and addresses. The public needs to be made aware of this deception. Your article goes a long way to confirm what we seem to be seeing all around us.
The classified ad and the notice asked people to call in and register. If gathering names and addresses was not a motive,the ad simply would say, "open to the public".
The public needs a brochure on how to protect itself from overzealous law enforcement and prosecution. 40,000 felonies on one year in Maricopa County should send a red flag to the public that they need something to protect themselves from the out of control broken criminal justice system. Where's that pamphlet? Where are our civil rights listed?
Outstanding article and research! I like how you tied it all together. All the loose ends going in different directions aren't fooling those who remain vigilant of the devious activities going on around us by those who only are interested in themselves at taxpayers expense and those who are losing their lives with this abuse of power.
It's hard to outdo #2 Theoline's comments, which ring out clearly.
Sarah, keep on digging, you have struck a gold mine that few others would have the courage to write about. Keep up the great work.
Obviously his hack Buttstein has been taking lessions from the hack Lisa Allen on how to lie for his boss and post bogas bullshit.
Damn . .you're good ! Really enjoyed your article, so gives insight into the personality, the unreality in the psyche. . .The guy defines vanity. .The darker,more dangerous side of this individual's mindset, the values,the morals void of decency,compassion, rights of others is clearly evident in the ABC's 20/20 transcripts re: Bandy prosecution. His responses are of the nature of dogma, rhetoric,explaining how the judicial system works by doing deals and pleas that there is no real statute for so they find something that sounds like,or looks like, or is smaller than a breadbox. Crackhead! Gee, I'd like to get that latest booklet mentioned in his bio that cost 2 million, I just can't afford it right now. .Could you tell me where I could possibly get a used copy for under say 75,000?
Great article. Interesting how the Wikipedia "creed" is to have fair, neutral, objective articles about people like Andrew Thomas. Here's a fun experiment, though -- try writing an article about Carolyn Doran in Wikipedia. She was written about multiple times by the Washington Post, and an extensive story about her has appeared in the Tampa Tribune, the Associated Press, and in the UK in The Register. Watch what happens when you try to create a fair, neutral, objective article about her!