"She specifically, without a doubt, recalls not only seeing Doug in the kitchen that morning [but] also talking to him," Ray testified.

"When I asked her how she could be sure it was that day that she was remembering, not some other day she is confusing, she began crying, explaining to me that [it was] the morning that her mother dies."

Nowhere on the videotape and separately recorded audiotape of Ray's interview with Jenna does she claim to possess such clarity.

Brian Stauffer
Faylene and Doug Grant on the day of their remarriage, July 27, 2001.
Faylene and Doug Grant on the day of their remarriage, July 27, 2001.

At the end of January 2002, detectives Ray and Palmer paid a surprise visit to Doug Grant at home. Grant repeated his account of the events of several months earlier — showing them how he'd found Faylene in the tub. The cops left after a few hours.

A few days after that interview, the Medical Examiner's Office issued its official findings in the case, concluding that the cause of Faylene's death was Ambien intoxication and drowning, the manner of death "undetermined."

Dr. Arch Mosley, a pathologist who now works in Coconino County, could have called her death a homicide, suicide, accident, or because of natural causes, but he didn't.

He tells New Times that no one has brought anything to his attention since since then that indicates the manner should be ruled anything but "undetermined."

"If I had been presented with anything compelling to change it, I would have," Mosley says.

The testing of Faylene's blood turned up only the Ambien — about five times the recommended dosage — which was curious because police at the scene had noted that the bottle of the recently filled prescription for the muscle relaxant Soma also was missing four pills.

(Where the Soma pills went is a mystery. Also, the cops apparently lost all the pill bottles seized at the Grants' home and never collected any of Faylene's vomit for testing, among other investigative errors.)

Detective Ray first met with physician assistant Chad White in March 2002. According to an audiotape of the interview, White told him:

"When I was giving her CPR, [Doug] kept saying, 'I'm so sorry. I gave her a sleeping pill and then she went and got in the bathtub, and I woke up.' He was real frantic about it."

Ray's police report about his interview with White included this summary statement: "According to Chad, Douglas was adamant about [getting] the Ambien, which is a sleeping pill."

That was what Faylene's sister, Cherlene, had told the cop about what White supposedly had revealed to her.

But the audio of the White interview reveals that the physician assistant never did say Doug Grant was "adamant" about securing the Ambien scrip, only that Grant had reiterated the troubles they were having getting to sleep.

The pattern of Sy Ray's written police reports not matching (in important instances) what witnesses told him would not reveal itself for years.

In part, it would take a diligent defense attorney armed with a rare court order to uncover the extent of the detective's duplicity.

Ray told Chad White and others that the toxicology report was going to show that the combination of Ambien and Soma would have rendered the woman incapable of drawing her own bath and getting into the tub.

In other words, Doug Grant had to have stuck his wife in the tub where she would drown.

But Ray already knew the testing had failed to turn up the Soma in Faylene's blood and that he had (and still has) no proof that the woman ever did take the Soma.

Ray apparently never entertained the possibility that Faylene could have taken the Ambien herself and then gotten into the bath before the drug kicked in.

The detective also interviewed Sherry Lines, a longtime friend of Faylene's and a sister Mormon.

A tape of the March 2002 interview shows that Lines said Faylene had confided in her months before her death "that she wasn't going to be around that much longer."

"I've read some of her writings, and they sound very similar to that," Detective Ray replied to her.

Faylene had been dating Lines' brother Lance in early 2001, Lyons said, and she had expressed no intentions of reuniting with Doug Grant.

Lines told Ray that Faylene's obsession about her approaching death had kept her from getting closer to Lance.

"She had come to me concerned that, 'Maybe I shouldn't even be involved with him; I really don't want to break his heart,'" Lines told Sy Ray in the recorded interview. "Faylene said, 'I really don't think I'm gonna be around, and I'm just trying to get everything ready.'"

But Sy Ray later wrote nothing in his police report about the interview concerning Faylene's fears of turning her new love interest into a young widower, and not anything about her profound revelations of an early demise.

"Sherry had heard nothing from Faylene that would make her think that she was suicidal," is all the detective wrote, which though technically true, was misleading.

Ray also neglected to note that Lines told him that Faylene was "just really happy" after remarrying Doug. "She was really peaceful."

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IPOD
IPOD

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I was a juror that convicted Doug Grant; as after reading Paul Rubin�s article, �Hate For Doug Grant: Despite Scant Evidence That Grant Killed His Wife, the Jury Convicted Him Anyhow� I found it to be very uninformative with the deliberation process in how the jury concluded its verdict. As there were many emotional women on the jury panel, I do believe their opinions and feelings of Doug Grant played a role in the manner of murder which Doug Grant would be charger, yet Doug Grant was found guilty for manslaughter based on "RECKLESSNESS" in not aiding to Fayleen�s care the morning that she was found unresponsive (not dead) in the bathtub. Let me elaborate a little, Doug Grant never called 911 that morning, Doug Grant attempted to perform CPR on a bed (information provided by the defense counsel), Doug Grant called Chad White once finding Fayleen in the tub following with Chad White's call to 911 stating, "I believe that he (Doug Grant) wasn�t going to call 911... he�s (Doug Grant) said that�s he�s afraid and not sure why he would say something like that." Having said this, it was enough reason for me to find Doug Grant guilty for manslaughter under the terms of �RECKLESSNESS.�

***Final Vote (6 for first degree, 4 for second degree, 2 for manslaughter)

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Howard
Howard

Paul Rubin will be facing libel and slander charges for misleading reporting once the trial is over.

a reader from NJ
a reader from NJ

this was a very interesting read, the author should make it a book. it's in no way journalistic, however, being appallingly biased, referring to this poor woman's delusions as "premonitions" or "revelations" and capitializing words like heaven, god, earth and whatnot. there is also attributing intent behind words, what they were referring to, referencing conversations that the author did not himself hear.

but there is incredible detail and it's a captivating read, so long as you forget that the people involved are real, and that a real woman was neglected, abused, manipulated and murdered. by her husband, her family and a bizarre cult.

betty lou
betty lou

seems like Ted from tuscon and the one who called Faylene a narcissic sociopath are only 2 who get it rest are media prosecutors who put no extra thought into things.SHe not only wanted everything revolved aroudn her but sounds like she wanted to contral things after she died. COps cant do wrong? have you seen the 8 yr old being questioned? did these cops think theyd solve a case and get a feather in their cap? they should get a boot in their as----es. and thrown out.

Kati
Kati

Mr. Grant is not guilty. Sorry to say but, Faylene was a LOONEY!! However, I do think she just fell asleep in the tub. Ive noticed that in most cases of a death of a spouse, they always accuse the other spouse. The marriage after a month looked really bad but maybe he was just granting her wishes, because he LOVED her? I just think it was an accident!

I wish both, Faylene's family and Mr. Grant the best of luck.

Mel McDonald is my hero. He is an AMAZING attorney and super friendly!

Peggy
Peggy

And you people are worried about the "sanctity" of marraige?Give me a frikin' break!

lee
lee

guilty!

this whole story is twisted.why are people blaming Gilbert PD they didnt kill anyoune?? and isnt it funny how she falls off a cliff and then within days she drowns in a bath tub??? seems to me like "her beloved" husband pushed her off the cliff and she lived so he gave her a bunch of meds and drowned her.

case over hes guilty, outcome - he goes to jail 25 years, thats what you get when you commit MURDER! if you dont want to go to prison dont kill your wife stupid.

r
r

Im confused. Let me see if I have this straight. Faylene went to bed at 8:00 pm. Doug said at some time Faylene got up and got in the tub. Doug said he fell back asleep?

Then at 7:46 am or something he saw his step daughter in the kitchen. A few minutes later he finds Faylene???

**************************************************** BACKGROUND ;Doug has many persciptions filled for her.He runs a company that distributes and advises people on there health, sells supplements, written books, given seminars. . He is advised to consult his friend before giving her the sleeping pills. But doesn't. Why? He knows everything

His wife has suppositly said that she may not be here on earth long. Is it a a vision of shorts ,or is it a idea placed in her head, and played out by Doug & his Mistress??

This woman has had 4 children & survived falling off a cliff? But has an accident in the bed??? Surely this is out of character for her.

Doug knows this and goes to sleep anyways? Does he expect his injured wife to change the sheets? Or does he expect her to lay in it? He doesn't check on her at all?

The woman he married twice, the mother of his children.

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HE GETS UP TO FEED THE YOUNGER BOYS AND DOESN'T NOTICE ONCE THAT FAYLENE ISN'T THERE IN BED???????????????

I'm sorry but when most men get up in the morning don't they usually urinate? You telling me he didn't go to the bathroom, and see his wife floating? I don't believe that for a minute. He is well calcualted i'd say, making sure everything is just so. And why didn't he call 911 first? Guilt !!! Sucker I hope you Fry!!!

Ree
Ree

This whole story is crap. In the photo marked Doug Grant took this photo of Faylene in Utah just one day before she fell off a cliff at the site. I don't know if anyone noticed but the date on the picture shows 3-10-94. I don't think that was taken the day before she fell. I had the photo blown up, and it definately shows a 1994 date. How much more bull is Doug Grant going to provide to you. If I were you, I would drop this story like a bad habit.

daren
daren

You call that Journalism.

I have to admit that I am related distantly to Faylene through marraige to a cousin. I met her a couple of times at family functions. That being said, I don't know her at all. I also don't know Doug at all. Your article however, is garbage. You make so many assumptions about people and their thoughts and feelings. You are definitely no journalist. More of a hack really trying to get people swayed to your own personal opinion.

Personally, I learned more about the case from you than from anyone in the family. I do know that her family doesn't talk about the case when we have family reunions and get togethers. At least you put quotations around things that can't be disputed.

The fact that you spin your article to assume Doug's innocence and Gilbert Police's incompetence is obvious. I will say that the police have been completely incompetent in this case. So was the medical examiner. This should have looked suspicious from the first day. They only took 5 pictures. Even if it didn't look suspicious we are talking about someone's life. That alone should have been enough reason to take the investigation a little more seriously from the beginning.

I went to the funeral and the viewing. I suspected something was wrong with Doug Grant the first time I saw him at the viewing. He was acting very strange. He was acting fake sad. Everyone else was in tears. He almost had this smug smile behind his fake grief. I didn't know anything about how she died, or that they had just been remarried, or that he had cheated on her anything else about their relationship. My wife and I went home that night and I commented to her that I thought something was strange about Doug, that he didn't seem to be very sad about his wife's death. It was weird.

Well, as you know Doug Grant has turned out to be a liar, by his own adimission. He cheated on his wife, very trustworthy, he changed his story repeatedly, his friend said he was afraid to call 911. I would assume when you murder your wife that you might be afraid to call 911. That is my assumption of course.

The LDS church believes strongly in God's eternal plan of happiness. We believe that this world is a place where we learn to use our agency to choose good or evil, and that this world is just a stopping point in the eternal scheme of things. For an LDS person to talk about what will happen in the next life certainly does not make them suicidal. We also believe in personal revelation. This is not a foreign concept. If you can pray, you can receive personal revelation. The concept of personal revelation has been around since Adam and Eve. The fact that Faylene wrote down these things in her journal does not make her crazy. Many people write things down in their journals that they don't intend for anyone but themselves. Using her journal in your article is ridiculous. I bet if we knew the thoughts that went through your very own head we would think you were crazy too. Faylene wrote hers down, big deal. Why don't you focus on facts instead of personal religous beliefs and a private journal that has nothing to do with the case. If you think the journal is relevant, at least admit that it is open for interpretation by someone who knows about our religion, definitely not an outsider like yourself.

Let's consider these facts

Fact: Doug Grant is a liar.

Fact: Doug Grant cheated on his wife.

Fact: Doug wanted to raise his wife's Life insurance only weeks before her death

Fact: Doug Grant did not call 911 when he found his wife dead

Fact: He didn't even tell his children

Fact: The Gilbert Police only took 5 pictures and didn't take this serious until way too late

Fact: Doug Grant was engaged to be remarried less than a month after his wife's death to a person he cheated on his wife with.

Fact: Hilary, Doug's new wife doesn't want him to go to jail. (This makes her a very unreliable source of information. Apparently that wasn't written in your text book of Journalism)

Fact: Doug Grant's family doesn't want him to go to jail either. They are also going to be generally unreliable for information.

Fact: Doug Grant admitted that had not been truthful with the police

None of these facts prove that Doug did anything. But your assumptions in your article are just bad Journalism. Your opinion is that Doug was an idiot for getting remarried within a month of his wife's death. Your are right. You don't think he killed her.

I think he did. It is just bad journalism to spin the facts the way you did. Clearly subjective on your part. I hope you get fired for your lame opinions placed as facts.

kieth
kieth

This is such a sad story. Everyone has a past and everyone has problems! But just because someone "crooked gilbert cops" have blown this suicide out of proportion and have tried to turn it into something its not, people are suffering that shouldnt have to suffer anymore than they already have... After reading this story i feel bad for the grant family and anyone that is involved in the case. Clearly his wife had serious mental problems and should have seeked help.A business partner of mine lived in the same comunity as the eves family did , and it sounds like Faylene wasnt the only one with mental problems in that family...This shouldnt even be a case... And the whole "people changing there minds after the Detective had had some time to skeem up some bs hoax... that just shows this could happen to anyone. After reading this article it has really boosted my confidence level in the gilbert PD... what a joke.

mlz
mlz

After letting the sadness and deceitfulness that led to the tragic outcome of this story run through the sieve one is left with a soap opera of mormon characters brainwashed to the extent that they are unable to function and think within the realm of reality.the saddest part of all...the children that had to be and will continue to be exposed to all of this

s
s

B_U_L_L_!!!!!!

This is completely biased & I believe much like others it was fed for Doug's purpose. He has to be the center of whatever universe he's in. So this is how he is trying to help shed light on his side. Actually what he's doing is trying to stir up interest, so that he can be a "celebrity" or a high profile case. I guarentee regardless of how this goes he will seek to have a movie made from this. Don't u all see it doesn't matter weather its negative or positive attention for him . as long as it is ATTENTION. And i love how they are doing 2 parts. Please. Why?? I'm telling you folks he wants to draw u in. Or he trying to create a Mistrial, by stating he wouldn't get a fair hearing due to the publicity. Please do not fall into this manipulaters hands. I guarentee he has seen this and proofed it. Do not give him the attention. He is a scum bag who went to far to get what he wanted and used his power for evil instead of good.He took advantage of Faylene and centered on her weakness and used it to his advantage to get it all and almost get away with it. Sure all moms have bouts of depression, but i don't know very many women that would say "please marry the person you cheated on me with right away, Oh and please let her be the mother to MY children." Doug knew his way @ meds with a company that sells them. He knew what was lethal and what wasn't. He Knew.. Try googling this man there r interesting reads, About his court case for anyone to view online. He is a master manipulator and cheated on anyone, everyone, and played them like a fiddle. And that is what he's doing to the public.

Kia
Kia

LOL -- how many "minutes" does it take for a post to go through, anyway? It's pretty much instantaneous on most other sites...

K
K

While I wasn't there and will never know for sure -- this seems fairly clear to me. Looks like Doug fed her death obsession for his own purposes. One particular passage in your article definitely stands out like a sore thumb in this regard -- and that would be Doug telling Faylene about HIS visions that she would reach the Celestial Heaven/Kingdom.

Yep, this just screams of manipulation. He likely did want the money, did NOT want to fork over money as a result of a divorce, and found the absolute best way to do it -- feed her own morbid obsessions. I wonder if he encouraged her to think she would die soon? Sounds like a real possibility. I mean really -- increasing the life insurance by that much shortly before dying? I guess she could've planned it all, and then again, I also think Doug could've strongly influenced her morbid visions and encouraged them -- "yes, dear, I think you just MIGHT die soon -- God will love you for it!" And so would Doug's pocketbook.

I see nothing about this guy that shows anything else other than that he is a manipulating womanizer. It sounds like Hilary is very naive and easily manipulated as well -- no doubt Doug finds that a great quality in women - naivety. Some of us aren't that naive, though, Doug. But you wouldn't want anything to do with someone who can see right through such things, would you? I'm sorry that Faylene didn't see how badly she was probably being manipulated. Unfortunately her own weakened mind likely gave Doug the foot in the door he needed to complete her prophecy and turn it into reality. I hope you're reading this, Doug -- you know what you likely did. And many of us aren't nearly so gullible as the women in your life appear to be.

And I sincerely doubt someone so utterly modest as Faylene would think it great to commit suicide in the tub, naked. And for someone so devout to commit suicide... It could happen, but I find it very, very unlikely.

Oh yes, and regarding how you "shockingly" convey how the detective lied to them in the interrogations -- yes, that's purely standard practice. You can lie to me all day long, you see, about what evidence you found. If I KNOW I'm innocent, you won't convince me to confess to what I DID NOT DO. And innocent people often react in very particular ways when accused.

Unfortunately, though, Doug appears too calculated to EVER admit his likely guilt (let's not forget his 'amazing' performance relayed by this reporter -- calculated people can easily fake such a performance, and certainly it happens EVERY DAY in the business world).

People deny wrong-doing all of the time. The last time I checked, about 95% of the prison population claims they did absolutely nothing wrong. I don't doubt there are people in there by mistake, but umm....NOT 95%. And yet, if you listen to them, wow, nearly ALL of them should be let free! Oh, the injustice!

You can take the defense side all you want, New Times, but I think this guy's guilt is pretty obvious. Now whether or not that can be proven in a court of law -- well I guess we'll have to wait and find out.

Sue
Sue

"If the writer had so much help from the defense, why would he have put in that journal entry? Looks like he was trying to get us to think about a tricky case."

There is incorrect information in this article. If the writer really had access to the journal, the information would be correct. The defense is feeding this to the writer, and adding a few bad things about Doug to make it look like the writer is unbiased. Where do you think the pictures came from? The victims family would never have supplied them.

Ted
Ted

Sy Ray shoould be sued for all he's got and then more. I had an experience myself with lying cops who got indictments for eight felonies from a grand jury. Lucky for me there were numerous witnesses who told the truth and I was exonerated. And both cops lost their jobs after I sued them! Worthless lying cops should not be tolerated on any police force.

Johnny C
Johnny C

Tried to send this once, will try again. If this writer was so biased, why would he have put in that particular journal entry? I don't know, maybe this guy is guilty, maybe not. But it sounds to me like the woman was very ill and manipulative, and Grant was just manipulative. I know from personal experience (family member) that not everyone charged with something is guilty. Really. I also know everyone has skeletons in the closet. Overall, I read the whole story and don't know what to think except these were/are some twisted people and I feel sorry for all of them...

Johnny C
Johnny C

If the writer had so much help from the defense, why would he have put in that journal entry? Looks like he was trying to get us to think about a tricky case. Anyway, kept me reading. I don't know. She sounds pretty sick and manipulative, and he just sounds manipulative and horny. Does that him a murderer? Maybe not, maybe yes. But I know from personal experience (family member) that not everyone is guilty as charged. Really...

Sue
Sue

"It just touched me," she wrote in a September 5 journal entry, "that this is another reason I must have faith in Doug's vision (he dreams it every night now), that I will get to go to the Celestial Kingdom because this is where [baby] Nicolle is in the pre-existence."

So just what exactly was "Doug's Vision". Sounds like he was manipulating her. I would love to see an article that was unbiased. This one had way too much help from the defense.

Susan
Susan

So, having read your article and awaiting part two, I have a question. Why is there a part two? As I understand, you are writing this article because an unfaithful, egotistical, powerful, wealthy man KILLED his good Mormon wife and now wants to live out his life with his mistress whom he married. It appears from the article that he feels he doesn't deserve to go to jail. From what I can tell a court date is just around the corner...... Hey I have an idea. Let's all commit crimes, when we get caught.....just hire some scumbag attorney.....(ya know the kind, they have �been there and done it all�) for big bucks, of course; after all, we can afford it. Then when it comes to trial.....we will just blame the hokey Police Dept. and all the bumbling Detectives. Looking at the picture you have of a pretty family, blond wife and wonderful children.....when things don't go his way....again.....who will be disappearing from that picture??? Somebody better listen to that Detective and District Attorney.

gill
gill

What a crock.

Bob
Bob

Yeah baby...

PAT
PAT

Boy, what a story... I just can not figure out as to why friends or family did not have this woman committed to the hospital for evaluation. For so long all she talked about or wrote about was "not being here for very long". Anyone smart enough would know that she has a mental problem and is crying out for help.

Art Garcia
Art Garcia

I just happened on to this story while I was looking for something else. I haven't read a story this interesting in a long, long time. I can't wait to see what happens next. I don't know what to think, other than there's not a lot of evidence against this guy.

helentroy4
helentroy4

Whether it is murder or not, clearly this poor woman had a severe mental problem that she cloaked in stringent religious adherence. This is such a sad story in so many ways. The article calls Grant a narcissist but Faylene certainly displayed a narcissisim that excluded her children in her 'heavenly' plans. Most Mormon women I know would die for their children. Her journals clearly portray a woman who was oblivious to everything except a delusional heavenly plan with her being the necessary center for it to all play out. It's really unfortunate that her mental illness was perceived as religiosity.

 
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