That's called victim-blaming, Katie: Your paper is kind of schizoid. This was such an obviously one-sided story that I had to stop reading after the first few pages. Okay, this stupid woman may have gotten the shaft by the legal system, but she put herself in this position — and that is glossed over by the writer.

I'm a fan of New Times, though. I really loved the stories by Paul Rubin on the Faylene Grant drowning case ("Death Wish," October 9, and "Cracked Case," October 16), and can't wait to read about it when the trial happens. Also, I like Sarah Fenske's columns because she seems like a fun (if very conservative) person.
Katie Daniels, Phoenix

Crooked cop: In this day and age, a nurse can be arrested and put away for 66 days without being officially charged, then accusations can be trumped up without investigation, and she gets put away for 11 years?

Detective Christopher Kinder needs to be dealt with — demoted and his badge turned in. And we're paying for all this? I certainly think we could do a better job in a city this large. This town should be in an uproar of phone calls.
Name withheld

Because he stands on ethically shaky ground: Why does County Attorney Thomas continue to ignore his duty to right the wrongs in the Courtney Bisbee case and keep the schools and taxpayers liable for future lawsuits by the accuser, who has until he is 21 to file multimillion-dollar suits? Thomas refuses to acknowledge the new evidence proving Courtney's innocence or that this tragedy is based on a scam.
Name withheld

UNSOLVED MYSTERY

Ray ought to be bumped: I read your "Death Wish" and "Cracked Case" stories, about the death of Faylene Grant, with great interest. They were very thought-provoking. I obviously have no idea if Mr. Grant is guilty as charged, though my gut tells me that he's guilty only of being a self-centered ass.

I am very troubled by the actions of Detective Sy Ray. My brother-in-law is a detective with a local agency (not Gilbert) and, after reading the story, he said that if the writer is being factual, Detective Ray ought to be bumped back to patrol rather than be promoted and praised. If you're going to "get" someone, get him clean, not the way [Ray's] trying to railroad this defendant.

Let me send my condolences to Faylene's family for their loss. Whatever happened, it was a tragedy.
Amanda Rigby, Phoenix

But being Mormon had much to do with it: What's with all the stories suddenly in which you point out in the headline that the [subject] is Mormon? How does that really have anything to do with the overall story? It's not like these are polygamy stories, are they?

I don't see you mentioning Joe Arpaio's religion in the stories you write about him. I don't see Andy Thomas' religion making it into the headlines either.

I could understand it when you had the stories on former Catholic Bishop Thomas O'Brien, since his title was related to his religion, and part of the overall story was about how he acted, even though his title should have made him act differently ("What Was He Thinking?!" Michael Lacey, February 12, 2004). But making sure to place "Mormon" near "murder" in your headlines is just tacky.

Sorry, I've been a New Times fan for almost 25 years, but this is a little annoying, and I'm not even religious, let alone Mormon.
Mike Wells, via the Internet

Police must play fair with evidence: Your stories on the Mormon murder case prove how easily the system can be manipulated by law enforcement. All a cop has to do is obfuscate the truth to a grand jury, and somebody gets indicted for murder.

Most people think the system is fairer than this, but that's just based on the public's ignorance. Anybody can get railroaded by the police, whose mission it is to make the case, no matter what they have to do to do it.

What the Gilbert cop did in the Grant case was outrageous! Whether Doug Grant is guilty or not, police must play fair with evidence. Trumping up a case shouldn't be tolerated.
James Pearl, address withheld

It's an obvious suicide case: The big question concerning [the Doug Grant] case is, how did it even pass through the grand jury? This is an obvious suicide case! Your second article hit it right on the nose.

A cop tells a one-sided story to the grand jury to sway it to indict. Sergeant Sy Ray sounds like the biggest scumbag who ever walked the streets. It's funny how he was promoted for "solving" a case.

How long can Ray and the family of Faylene Grant get away with what they have done to the life of Doug Grant? How come no one has been brave enough to step up and call Ray out publicly until now?
Name withheld

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dan stevens
dan stevens

I am so glad you revealed the injustice and horrible treatment that courtney bisbee a nurse has endured. Why arent these kids who lied to authoritys being brought in? Why is Rod The chief of police in Scottsdael doing anything , an internal investigation?? instead of passing the buck on the Andrew Thomas, who is currently on his own witch hunt after Stapley. I think if something doesnt happen soon , that andy thomas should spend his day in jail and disbarred. We need prosecution of the so called "victim" .

fomer school teacher
fomer school teacher

On the Courtney Bisbee Case, Candy Andy will never admit wrong doing. It will not happen. The judge needs letters sent ot him. I will write letters t Judge Donahue. And hopefully we can get her a new trial asap . We have been paying to keep this woman locked up? to protect the public from whom? It is the 13 yr old boys mother the public needs protection from, and the St Prosecutor. MR pleas bargain himself.

Not a Racist, Just a Law Abidi
Not a Racist, Just a Law Abidi

Illegal aliens who are willing to take the risk of being here illegally bear the responsibility for the consequences when things go south, so to speak. If their families get "torn apart", the blame lies on their own shoulders, not on Arpaio or ICE or "la Migra".While I do not wish such an event on anyone, I shed no tears for them as through their choices, they have created the situation themselves. It is NOT an injustice. It is the result of a risk that didn't pan out. No whining, just pay the price.

Cricket23
Cricket23

Great Comment Buzzm1 from SF Bay Area!

Dave Avery
Dave Avery

Joshua said:

"Think of that as 72,955 families ripped apart, children left without one or both parents. How Allen and the others who aid him at ICE sleep at night is beyond me."Joshua Peters, Mesa

Comment:

Joshua the illegal aliens are responsible for the mess they find themselves in when ICE deports either one or both family members. The minute they made the decision to cross the border illegally is when they put the wheels of justice in motion. Give it a rest!

david saint
david saint

uh, neither of you morons even live here, so please, shut the fk up and stay in hickville..we already have enough racist white trash assholes here. lol..its actually kind of funny though, you actually took time to make that before you copied and pasted it..lol, whats it like having no life but hate?

Buzzm1
Buzzm1

STOP THE INVASION!!!

UNITED STATES BORDER APPREHENSIONS (Source DHS/CBP)1987--1,190,488------1995--1,394,554------2003----931,5571988--1,008,145------1996--1,649,986------2004--1,160,3951989----954,243------1997--1,412,953------2005--1,189,0751990--1,169,939------1998--1,555,776------2006--1,089,9021991--1,197,875------1999--1,579,010------2007----876,7041992--1,258,482------2000--1,676,438------2008----723,825 1993--1,327,259------2001--1,266,213------2009----(beginning 10/01)1994--1,094,717------2002----955,310

http://tinyurl.com/6l5y9p

FACT: In the last 22 years, over 26 million illegals, have been apprehended, after crossing the border, into our United States.

THE PROBLEM IS: Less than 1, out of 4 illegals, are estimated to have been apprehended.

Mind boggling, isn't it.

According to the U.S. Immigration Service another 6 million illegals in this country are visa overstays.

ENFORCE OUR LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!

THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!

OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM

#1. Make Illegal Entry a Felony Permanently Barring Citizenship#2. Secure Our Borders with our National Guard!!!#3. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!! #4. Cut Off ALL Public Assistance to Illegals and Their Children!!!#5. Stop the Underground Economy!!!#6. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!......and make it retroactive!!!#7. End Chain Migration!!!#8. Make English our Official Language!!!#9. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!

NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!!

STOP THE INVASION!!!

BUILD THE FENCE!!!

MANDATE E-VERIFY!!!

Southwest Border Patrol Sector Apprehensions (Source DHS/CBP)Fiscal Year-------------2005---------2006---------2007-------2008 (ends 9/30)San Diego------------126,879-----142,104---- 152,460--- 162,390El Centro--------------55,725-------61,465----- 55,883----- 40,961Yuma-----------------138,492-----118,549----- 37,992------ 8,363*Tucson --------------439,053-----392,074---- 378,239--- 317,696 El Paso---------------122,624-----122,256----- 75,464----- 30,312Marfa ------------------10,532--------7,520------- 5,536------ 5,391Del Rio -----------------68,547------42,636----- 22,920----- 20,761Laredo -----------------75,268------74,840----- 56,714------43,658Rio Grande Valley --134,136----110,528------ 73,430----- 75,473Apprehensions----1,171,386--1,071,972-----858,638----705,005

*The Yuma Sector presently has a total of 94 miles of fencing. The difference is apparent.

Dave Francis
Dave Francis

NOW WE ARE FINALLY PAYING THE PIPER. Thats where my tax dollars are going by forced federal mandate...?

37 MILLION illegal aliens--that we support for parasite employers, according to the Tucson sector Border Patrol union local 2544, not the propaganda brought forth by the Liberal national press and special interest lobby of only 13 million.

An additional half-million coming every year. California is $11 billion dollars in the red, so now they are looking for ways to cut programs.

Don't re-elect Mayor's like Antonio Villaraigosa or any other politician that is selling your future for campaign contributions Villaraigosa embraced LOS ANGELES as a SANCTUARY CITY, in a SANCTUARY STATE. Just because the West Coast border states are far away, don't think for one-minute this doesn't have a financial impact on YOU..?

A massive financial impact on our economy by importing the worlds poor.

Go to www.numbersusa.com for immigration facts not lies.

TIME TO FIGHT BACK OR BE SUBMERGED IN ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, LEECHING FROM OUR WELFARE SYSTEM! REMEMBER PROP 187? YOU HAVE BEEN PAYING EVER SINCE. EDUCATION, HEALTH-CARE, HOUSING! JUST THE TIP OF THE ECONOMIC ICEBERG. REMEMBER? LOW INCOME PEOPLE GET ALL THEIR TAXES BACK! REMEMBER ALL THE RISING CRIME RATES IN SANCTUARY CITIES AND STATES!

Learn about many positive legal cases won at www.judicialwatch.org We are beginning to stop the open border zealots and immigration special interest lobby.

Please sign our petition demanding President-elect Barack Obama to support American workers over illegal aliens by rejecting an illegal alien amnesty.

Illegal aliens take job opportunities away from the most vulnerable Americans in skilled and unskilled positions. To force through an amnesty for illegal aliens would hurt American workers. As long ago as a 1996 study, a Rice University economist estimated that illegal aliens were then displacing 730,000 American workers a year.

112621 citizens have signed since Nov 6

THE PETITION DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ADDRESS; JUST A CITY AND STATE: numbersusa.com

 
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