Insane Clown Posse’s Juggalos Aren’t a Gang — Just Punk Kids

Woop-woop. Walking around Metrocenter in an Insane Clown Posse shirt, I hear the sound every few minutes. Kids I don't know, teenagers with tilted ballcaps, most of them not wearing ICP shirts but all greeting my 28-year-old ass with the universal call of the Juggalo, just for wearing something I bought at Hot Topic 10 minutes earlier.

Woop-woop.

In case you're unaware, Juggalos are fans of ICP, a Detroit-bred rap duo with KISS-like face-paint and ludicrously profane lyrics. The band has a massive underground following, particularly in their native Midwest, as well as Colorado, Utah, and Arizona. Metrocenter is one of Phoenix's two main Juggalo hangouts; the other being the Monstar Shop at Camelback Road and 35th Avenue. Mall security, shopkeepers, and other kids revile Juggalos, and it's easy to see why: They're grubby, self-proclaimed white trash with lip rings, baggy black jeans, chain wallets, and dirty goatees. Many are un- or under-employed. They smoke poorly constructed rollies to the stub and yell curse words at passing cars.

In the interest of full disclosure, this was not my first time wearing an ICP shirt. And the last time was not done with a detached air of superiority. The last time I wore one was 10 years ago, in Ohio, where I'm from — and it was not a big deal. We went to shows, wearing the shirts and face-paint, carrying the distinctive three liters of Faygo soda that Juggalos drink. The concerts were fantastic: violent, sexually depraved rhymes rapped over dumpy beats, with a bunch of sketchy dudes moshing and heavily tattooed girls — usually a little sloppy in the face — flashing. At age 17, who wouldn't love it?

I never would've imagined such activities getting me photographed by a gang task force, but that's just what happens to some Juggalos in Arizona.

Donna Monahan is a Juggalo but says she is not a member of a gang, though authorities have sometimes said otherwise. Monahan, 28, with two kids, works at the Monstar Shop (the store specializes in clothing bearing the hatchetman logo of ICP's Psychopathic Records and also serves as a recording studio, concert venue, and gathering place for Juggalos not in the mallrat scene). One night a few years back, she was leaving a party in Tucson when she got pulled over for not signaling a turn. The cop quickly told her he was more interested in the red hachetman logo on her back window. They took her picture for inclusion in a gang registry.

"He thought I was in a gang — those were the first words out of his mouth," she says. "He said a hatchetman on your car was just as bad as a sticker that said Crips or Bloods. It's stupid. I'm not going to say Juggalos never do anything wrong. There are idiots who do, and I'm probably friends with some of them . . . But a gang?"

Yet the gang myth persists in law enforcement and the news media. In June, the East Valley Tribune, my employer at the time, ran a story about Juggalos under the headline, "Gang, residents clash at Mesa meeting." Two months later, the Trib ran a bigger story, this one on the cover. A blaring headline asked: "Fans or gang? Meet the Juggalos." Despite the interrogative headline, not one of the half-dozen law enforcement officers quoted said they personally think Juggalos are a gang. Yet they have a category in the state's gang registry.

Lieutenant Charlie Consolian of the Phoenix Police Department's Gang Enforcement Unit says he knows that not all Juggalos are criminal street-gang members, but that some do meet the definition under Arizona law. Statewide, about 180 Juggalos are in the gang database, he says, because they committed a crime. Recently, the city had a spate of robberies at 32nd Street and Thomas Road committed by people calling themselves Juggalos, he says.

"When they commit felonies as a group of Juggalos — or to further the Juggalo name — then it's an issue for us," he says. "But we're not going to go down the street and stop someone with an ICP sticker on their car . . . Some of them are just people who follow Insane Clown Posse."

Partly, of course, such misunderstandings are the Juggalos' fault. Not only are they, shall we say, socioeconomically and socially underprivileged, they embrace the outcast label zealously.

Standing outside the mall, I see why they get hassled. They wave sarcastically to cops, stand in a group of 15 near a tagged wall, playfully wrestle — the sort of teenage hoodlum behavior that'll get you bounced from any respectable place of business. Then there's the fact that they insist they're "family" and wear, stick, or tattoo the hatchetman anyplace they can.

Joe "DieNasty" Mercado, 28, owns Monstar Shop, and started following ICP with 1997's The Great Milenko, ICP's first album to get mainstream attention after it was shelved by Hollywood Records hours after its initial release and, for my money, their best album by far. Mercado, who records with a face-painted rap group called Darkside Immortals (perhaps the scariest thing about the whole Juggalo phenomenon is how many shitty imitators there are around the country), says he's not a member of a gang and stays away from the mallrat scene, where it's easy to get in trouble.

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rarathewickedkid
rarathewickedkid

One thing that pisses me off too no end, dumbasses yelling "whoop whoop" in public. Back when I considered myself a juggalo (that would be close to the early 90s ya'll), we didn't act like retards running around everywhere yelling whoop whoop every time we saw a hatchetman. We would head nod and ask "what's up?" We were different from the new vile that has emerged to the surface. The kids nowadays that wear a hatchetman charm might as well wear a big turd charm instead because you've managed to turn the juggalo name into shit! ICP has even gone out of their way to mock their classic albums by creating new versions of each album for the so called new generation of juggalos. Its sad to see them compare the wraith to bang pow boom and the amazing jeckel brothers to the might death pop. When I was a juggalo, we had to search for our clothes, posters, lighters, stickers, etc. if we wanted them. There wasn't an online web store to buy everything you wanted. We bought our hoodies and shirts at concerts and out of magazines before Hot Topic, Spencers Gifts and even Hastings started selling their merch. We had to special order CDs because they were not popular enough to be put on racks. Lastly, we were family once upon a time; it was us against the world because we were different and we didn't fit in. Now, we hate one another because the mainstream fans have committed crimes (such as violent acts or started some dumbass gang) to impress their friends or to gain attention and doing so in the name of juggalos everywhere. For example, little Johnny is rebellious and robs a convince store but before he leaves he takes a shit on the clerk that is face down on the ground. The cops pick him up and during question they ask about the symbol of the man running with a hatchet and little Johnny replies, "I'm a Juggalo, Whoop Whoop you fucking pig! It's tatted on my arm and all my friends have the same tats as well! We all paint up and run around yelling whoop whoop, doing whatever the hell we want because were Juggalos!" The new generation can shit on the name Juggalo if they want, but they will never be able to experience a concert as I or juggalos from my era did. We experienced ICP before any other Psychopathic artist emerged. When they opened up for bands, when non related horrocore bands such as MSI opened up for them. In other words, when we chanted family... we meant it.      

AZCrimeVictims
AZCrimeVictims

I would like to know what you think of the Juggalos now Martin?? Have you ever talked to the family of the Glendale officer killed? How about some of the rape victims? Unorganized gang - made up of underprivileged youth, young individuals who have no concept for the value of life making them more unpredictable and dangerous than any major organized biker gang. Yes, I know firsthand the devastation they have created in my family's lives.

Kayline3
Kayline3

Fuck iv being listening to Icp ever since they stared in 1992 and well I have the hatchetman rated on my back and still not part of a gang. And were crews u fucking fags

juggalo
juggalo

first off a real juggalo wouldnt have to ask what the difference between juggalo is and a juffalo or a juggaho a real juggalo wouldnt be crying about juggalos being a gang because thats what ICPs first cd was inner city posse a ruthless inner city street gang as quoted by Violent J and that was back even before the word juggalo. juggalos are down ass mutha fuckaz that dont take shit from noone and they dont wear girl clothes and when you go to a show they can yell out lyrics to songs not keep saying family over and over a real juggalo can tell you what the six jokers cards are in order and every other cd they got to a real juggalo ICP the whole dark carnival and the juggalo family is a way of life not a fuckin fad a real juggalo would bust haters and bitch boys up side their dome up untill bizzar and bizaar came out juggalos were few and far between but after they dropped that album to win a bet against sharon osbourne all the mainstream juffalos came out the wood works real juggalos acknowledge a mutha fucker around town not look away when you yell out what up juggalo or throw out a whoop whoop and get a dumb look back like i said its sad to see something i love being tarnished by pussies who aint proud of bein a juggalo just wanna cry about the repercussions of their choice to step into a spot they dont belong in so if you dont like the stereo type get the FUCK OUTTA OUR WORLD cause their aint no room for bitches

juggalo
juggalo

2. A group of adolescents who band together, especially a group of delinquents.3. Informal A group of people who associate regularly on a social basis there is two diffinitions of the word gang read it and understand it before you start cryin juggalos aint no gang juggalos use to be a rare breed few and far between then bizzar and bizaar came out and everyone was like look im a juggalo fuckin up the scene juggalos is a gang not in a sense like bloods and crips but for us real juggalos it isbut not you pussy mutha fuckaz lettin mutha fuckaz hate on you talkin shit you need ta stop cryin and start bustin heads or burn that hatchet up off your fuckin skin stop reppin the hatchet cause yall aint no ninjas just a bunch of possers takin what aint yours i aint even seen a real juggalo in years all i see is faggs in girl clothes claimin juggalo its sad

Matt aka mono
Matt aka mono

This is bullshit. I've listened to icp since I was 11 or so I'm 26 now have a wife and kid and do my own shit. I got hatchetmen tatted on my arms and still rock a charm but that's cuz it was a big part of my life growing up not cuz I'm gang related. Cuz its memories. I havnt been to a show or baught a new album in years but still bump my old shit. We may have the brand but we still have rights.

JUGGALO
JUGGALO

Damn this shit happens everywhere it seems. Kids, even old ass people calling themselves juggalos/juggalettes when they're just juffalos and juggahoes. They come up to me saying "whats up fam?!" Yet they don't have respect for shit. Going to a show is like fuck! Im probably see those same people. Most real juggalos that end up in my town can't wait to leave. The biggest problem here is that most of these supposed "juggalos/juggalettes" are fucking cluckers. It comes as no suprise to me that this is what people think of when they think of juggalos/juggalettes. But hey fuck them! DGAF!

juggalo
juggalo

its whoop whoop mutha fuckaz all you fake fuckin juffalo bitches and emo faggs gave juggalos a bad name fuckin pussies with out a cause tryin ta take over and step into a group you dont belong to i went to the hallow wicked show back in 2006 and the croud was full of all these fuckin juffalos and emo faggets and all the other little cry baby bitch groups that wernt juggalos that should just go fuck them selves and stop ridin real juggalos fuckin coat tails anyone that started listen to icp after carnage aint a fuckin juggalo your a nut ryda givin us a bad name and all those fake fuckin imposters out there tryin ta get big off icps gimic paintin your face and shit like that get your own gimic and stop coping what you cant never be hypocrit mutha fuckaz

Joe3456
Joe3456

Street kingz are bigger fags and pussies. . .

Joe34
Joe34

Juggalos are fucking pussies

Spo45
Spo45

Juggalos are fags

Justin Griffin36
Justin Griffin36

We'll considering ya'll motherfuckas wanna play it hard and we gone take ya ass down hard!!!!! You mothafuckas wanna attack STREET KINGZ then its time we started pop'n shots!!!!! Ya'll bitches in Desert Hot Springs CA wanna jump my boy TINO. You fuckin with my money and my business. You know ya'll right. I don't consider ya'll a gang. You just a bunch of scared little bitches with ya dicks tucked between ya legs!!!!! But ya know what we gone fix that. You lil bitches in Desert Hot Springs CA gotta experation date and its coming real shortly.

Ninjasniper625
Ninjasniper625

Been a juggalo for a long motherfucking time and still haven't done shit to the law so why are we consider a gang?? Cause we call other juggalos family what's wrong with that I hate the haters trying to say were a gang prove I am part of a gang. prove it so when were told were not I get to see your sorry motherfucking look.(:

wickedjuggalotus8669
wickedjuggalotus8669

fuck dis page juggalos will never die we will kome back swinging our hatchets killing all fucking haterz so all haterz can fuck the fuck off

ANGELINAGAMBINO
ANGELINAGAMBINO

WHOOP WHOOP FAM. WELL IM A JUGGALETTE JUGGALOTUS AND U KNOW THIS. WERE FAMILY AND WHAT WE RAP ABOUT IS PURE FUN THATS WHY WERE UNDERGROUND CAUSE U MAIN STREAM HATERS EVEN ON YOUR WORST DAY U COULD NEVER BE LIKE ME. U EVEN BUILT LIKE THAT, WHOOP WHOOP. RAISE UP YOUR HATCHETS FAMILY.

andrew
andrew

people shouldn't complain about juggalos. i'm a juggalo cause i always been the out cast. i don't have many juggalos where i live but there are a few n i'm thankful for that.

Aarons1218
Aarons1218

fuck u ass holeand u cant spell whoop whoop right so suck my big dick

whoop whoop

John
John

Wat the fuck ever homie it can go either way WOOP WOOP!!!!!!!!!!

homie its woop woop theres no h in woop woop

John
John

Hey come c us real juggalos up in washington bitch we got a free axe 4 ur fuckin face ooooo a free axe sounds like ur kind of gang right bitch boy hahahahaha woop woop later bitch.

Hey yo this is the red ninja woop woop bitch i'll rip fucking throat out and use it as necklace, then i'll use ur spinal cord as my new belt i'm do 4 a new one mutha fucka woop woop!!!!!

That Guy
That Guy

It would be nice if the Juggalos upset with the gang association actually took issue with their "family" members causing the problems. Rather than whine about the problem, do something about it. Take the problem kids to task or work with the police to identify the problem people and remove them from your family.

Put up or shut up.

SkittlezLette
SkittlezLette

honestly it pisses me off how people thing were a gang just cuz a couple of fake dumb asses fucked up our rep, Cuz i'm a down ass Lette, && i think its a family. BUt i do understand that in can go either way because yes there is the song 'Juggalo Family' but have you guys ever heard the song 'Gang Related' by ABK ft. ICP...

tripp
tripp

this gang shit is kinda gettin to me we a fuckin family cuz or bio family was neva there get it strate majik majik ninjas what!!! whoop whoop

Juggalo ForEver
Juggalo ForEver

We Will Never Die Alone, Juggalos Will Carry On.Swing Our Hatchets If We Must. Each And Every One Of Us

Don
Don

I'm a lette that has been down for two years, my best friends are fam too. I have written papers defending the fam at my school when they were called memebers of a gang. Its sad that the fam is called a gang. It makes people have to chose between being labled as a gang memeber or being part of something that makes them who they are. Not all of us are bad. The article makes good points. Too bad the pigs that pull us over dont give a shit about what a juggalo/lette really is. MMFWCL

Dirty772
Dirty772

Well, I don't understand the phenomenon, been fuckin' your wife cuz she looks like spallala(Barfing sound) You might think that it's shit But I like fuckin' your wife with one tit, and I'll do it at the drop of a dime, and she gives me scabies almost every time So let's talk about my nutsack, I don't front Jack, she gave me bugz on my ballsack. Well I'm dirty D and I aint no bitch, quick to tell ya that your wife made my nuts itch. cuz bitch if i'm itchin when I come to your home, I'll drop a brick in a sock and swing it on your dome.You didn't think nothin' of it she just let me stick it, shoulda probably known because I heard crickets in her pussy, but I wasn't sayin' nothin though, I wasn't sayin' nothin till I'm done nuttin' Ho! and I'm like Bitch, how can this be? tryin' to cuddle up with your wife, and my nuts are up watchin' tv! Now they tryin to go to the store and get your girl some KY, How'd these bugs get on me? Somebody asked me how I got scabies, Probably that fat homeless redneck bag lady, that I fucked in your bed, Then your wife in the next room said! Yo nuts i want yo nuts I'll suck and suck yo dirty nuts Yo nuts I want yo nutsPlease fuck me I'm a dirty slutYo nuts I want yo nuts I'll suck and suck yo dirty nutsYo nuts I want yo nutsOh, Dirty, fuck me in my butt.Met your bitch and went up in it, dropped her off, went to the clinic, Bitch I got bizugs on my shiznat, so tell me what's up with that. Shoulda said something about your bug problem. Can't keep her muthafuckin' hands out my drawers, Stick a roach motel up under my balls. Nahh, I'd rather stick her in a deep fryer, and sizzle that bitch off my wang.She always wants to fuck around always want's to buck around, lift up her labia nuthin but a buggy farm, Now they call me funky nuts cuz I like her funky butt, scratchin and bitin em now they call me monkey nuts. Met your wife in the back of a dumpster fucked her in her rumpster juggalugga humpster, had to ake a piss so I pulled out my wang then I heard your dumpster bitch Sing: Yo nuts i want yo nuts I'll suck and suck yo dirty nuts Yo nuts I want yo nutsPlease fuck me I'm a dirty slutYo nuts I want yo nuts I'll suck and suck yo dirty nutsYo nuts I want yo nutsOh, Dirty, fuck me in my butt.

A song for you and your devasted family, Also your wife, (she's my favorite slut.)

devil_pup
devil_pup

in your personal opinion what makes a Juggalo?who determines what the difference is between a juggalo and a juggaho??I'm being confrontational,im truely curious.

Jredner001
Jredner001

A gang is a group of people who associate or work together. So technically you are a gang.

Jredner001
Jredner001

I can only say one thing to that... Thank god.

Justin Griffin36
Justin Griffin36

well to me it looks like the juggalo's are going to get stopped pretty damn quick!!!!!! STREET KINGS ARE TAKING OVER DESERT HOT SPRINGS!!!!!!! we are locked and loaded ready to go. I will laugh and watch on as that fake ass white paint washes down the faces of those wanna be KISS sell outs. Dueños de la calle está aquí para quedarse!! Tome hacia abajo! sincerly Adrian Moncada. (LAST SHADOW)

Justin Griffin36
Justin Griffin36

well to me it looks like the juggalo's are going to get stopped pretty damn quick!!!!!! STREET KINGS ARE TAKING OVER DESERT HOT SPRINGS!!!!!!! we are locked and loaded ready to go. I will laugh and watch on as that fake ass white paint washes down the faces of those wanna be KISS sell outs. Dueños de la calle está aquí para quedarse!! Tome hacia abajo! sincerly Adrian Moncada. (LAST SHADOW)

Justin Griffin36
Justin Griffin36

well to me it looks like the juggalo's are going to get stopped pretty damn quick!!!!!! STREET KINGS ARE TAKING OVER DESERT HOT SPRINGS!!!!!!! we are locked and loaded ready to go. I will laugh and watch on as that fake ass white paint washes down the faces of those wanna be KISS sell outs. Dueños de la calle está aquí para quedarse!! Tome hacia abajo! sincerly Adrian Moncada. (LAST SHADOW)

Adrian Moncada911
Adrian Moncada911

well to me it looks like the juggalo's are going to get stopped pretty damn quick!!!!!! STREET KINGS ARE TAKING OVER DESERT HOT SPRINGS!!!!!!! we are locked and loaded ready to go. I will laugh and watch on as that fake ass white paint washes down the faces of those wanna be KISS sell outs. Dueños de la calle está aquí para quedarse!! Tome hacia abajo! sincerly Adrian Moncada. (LAST SHADOW)

John
John

hay faggot other juggalos shit is there u fuckin bussines no bodies whinin bitch so fuck off and watch ur fuckin throat cause im abouts to hack it woop woop bitch boy.

Lette_Baby
Lette_Baby

You cant remove them from your family. thats not how it works. the whole juggalo thing is about accepting EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT. Can you kick people out of your bio family? No. Every club, group, family, ect. has fuck ups. Juggalos are just attacked more for it because we can fit the part of a gang.

John
John

Hell ya woop woop MCL much respect

John
John

Majik majik Ninjas!!!!! woop woop MCL

devil_pup
devil_pup

correction- i meant im NOT being confrontational.

Adrina Moncada911
Adrina Moncada911

you know to me you sound retarded john. You really do. woop woop? really? sound more educated. hahaha. Real niggas like me gotta do what we gotta do to survive. grow up in south central and then call yourself hard bitch ass mothafucka!!!!! dont worry he's coming for ya soooo get dat little rusty ass axe ready. Deal with the cold metal of a nine going through your mouth and out ya spine.

(LAST SHADOW)

Johnedinger
Johnedinger

hell ya iam 15 and i will roll for the clown any day

jAy357
jAy357

Dude get off the Internet with ur bull shit death threats what are you an autistic 6 year old that just found out it's easy to talk shit from behind a computer monitor no one gives a shit about the "street kings" shut the fuck up ... whoop whoop -jAy357

 
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