On the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, Being Hispanic, and Scarface

 >Many times, as I cross the border into the U.S., I see bald cholos buying images (posters, blankets, baby bibs) of Al Pacino in Scarface. Where does such an obsession for this ugly Cuban come from? Is Tony Montana replacing la Virgencita de Guadalupe in cholos' living rooms across America?
Proud to Be an Illegal Alien

Author Ken Tucker recently published Scarface Nation: The Ultimate Gangster Movie and How It Changed America, but save some money and refry this: The basis for the popularity of Tony Montana is the same as why Bonnie & Clyde became folk heroes during the Great Depression, la misma razón porque Dubya was re-elected in 2004 and George Armstrong Custer was so popular — America loves its up-from-stupidity outlaws. Cholos, on the other hand, love Montana for the obvious reason: por pendejos. I get the socioeconomic rationale for Montana's deification in thug culture — his rise from poverty through riches via machismo, guile, and the white chica — but Mexicans who worship him insult our culture for falling under the spell of a coño. Whatever happened to the days when the killers Mexicans lionized — Emiliano Zapata, Pancho Villa, Gregorio Cortez — slaughtered for the 'hood that was la raza? Not only that, but the celebration of drug kingpins in Mexico? (Answer redacted by the Mexican's editor because he doesn't want his prize wab to turn up in a ditch!)

I'm Hispanic, not Mexican, and I hate it when people confuse me for one. I don't like the stupid music you like, I don't give a fuck about the stupid Virgin of Guadalupe, I don't speak with the stupid accent, I don't even look like an Indian. Why should all Hispanics be confused with these stupid, ignorant people?
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I was talking to my uncle a few weeks ago, and he mentioned something to the effect that, as part of the original postwar agreement between the United States and Mexico after their 1848 war, that Mexican citizens were originally supposed to be able to go back and forth as they pleased. I know that the original draft was changed. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do further research. If it's true, I guess them Mexican illegals aren't illegal — they're simply exercising the terms of the postwar agreement.
El Niño Héroe

Your uncle was partially right. Article IX of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo originally stated that "the relations and communication between the Catholics living in the territories [conquered by the United States during the Mexican-American War], and their respective ecclesiastical authorities, shall be open, free and exempt from all hindrance whatever, even although such authorities should reside within the limits of the Mexican Republic, as defined by this treaty; and this freedom shall continue, so long as a new demarcation of ecclesiastical districts shall not have been made, conformably with the laws of the Roman Catholic Church." In other words, Mexican Catholics could cross between the two countries for religious purposes and none else. However, American authorities removed this provision from Article IX before signing the treaty and altogether struck Article X, which guaranteed that the American government would respect the property rights of their new wards. Don't believe the Chicano studies urban myth that said the treaty guaranteed bilingual rights for Mexicans, or that such a provision would even apply to the Mexicans who now live in the American Southwest, almost all who have no historical ties to the conquered Mexicans (who by and large didn't consider themselves Mexican, but that's another story). Better yet, let's all just get over the fact that the southwest United States once belonged to Mexico — as I've written before, Mexico ruled those territories from 1812 until 1848, a chronological fart between the much-longer reigns of the Spaniards (212 years), gabachos (158 years), and the Native Americans (eternal).

 
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ecastigons
ecastigons

"Your culture.“ it's obvious you have none.

Your what we regard a "Maria" ,«ni de aquí, ni de allá».

ecastigons
ecastigons

History has a way of correcting itself.

The population explosion of Mexican in the southwest is just Destiny manifesting itself.

ecastigons
ecastigons

Such a shame, can't help but feel for those with an identity crisis .

 
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