Feedback from the Issue of Thursday, August 6, 2009

ARIZONA'S SHAME

Throw out the trash: I love Phoenix and Arizona, but we will forever be a second-rate city and an embarrassment until we clean up the political scene by throwing out the trash.

[The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office's] Joe Arpaio, Joel Fox, David Hendershott, and Lisa Allen, as well as County Attorney Andrew Thomas, need to go.

I believe both sides of the political aisle, Dems and Republicans, are to blame for letting Arpaio become the de facto celebrity ruler of our state. Arpaio and his henchmen have hurt our state, its citizens, the local economy, and our future. With civic leaders like we have endured in our state for so long, we continue to deserve the reputation of uneducated, redneck, and out of date.

I give kudos to Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon for denouncing Arpaio's racial profiling and the ACLU for suing him to stop racial profiling. It isn't enough, though; our trusted political leaders on both sides — from our governor to our senators, John McCain and Jon Kyl — should stand up and denounce Arpaio and his clan. (Yeah, that'll be the day — when McCain does anything more than fumble over the subject of Arpaio.)

Kudos to Sarah Fenske for writing this hard-hitting look into the crooked way Arpaio has secured his cushy tyrant's job and positions of privilege for cronies like Fox and the band of fork-tongued evildoers.
Drew Gibson, Phoenix

Let them rot in Tent City: There's only one place MCSO Captain Joel Fox, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and Chief Deputy David Hendershott need to go, and that's to trial and then to jail. My dream would be to see Fat and Fatter (Arpaio and Hendershott) get forced to endure years in Tent City awaiting trial.

But Hendershott seems to be the biggest fish that might get gigged in this Sheriff's Command Association scandal. Arpaio's like a cockroach; he'll survive even this mess.
McGraw Johnson, Phoenix

Where's Goddard in all this?: I'm not sure which is more unconscionable — the corruption at the MCSO or the fact that the rest of the Valley's media have barely made a peep about the latest clear case of corruption at the county's top law-enforcement agency.

If Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard has an ounce of integrity and fortitude, he will make sure that this is fully investigated. That's his job. If he doesn't, he wouldn't be any better a governor than would Arpaio. He'd be just another self-interested politician covering his own ass.
Chad Snow, Peoria

Find someone unafraid of Arpaio: Great article. Very pointed and factual. As always, I think what it boils down to is: Who isn't afraid of Arpaio and who will step up and do the right thing?

I say let Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu run an investigation. Babeu has shown he can be fair and impartial, and I doubt he is afraid of Joe. I'm sure whichever agency does get put in charge of this will get the usual harassment and intimidation from Hendershott and Arpaio. So whoever it is must possess a proven level of integrity, and a big pair of stones.

It's time to see MCSO employees held to the same laws as you and I, with the same punishments. Or worse (they know the law; they should be held to a higher standard). The law was clearly broken. Now let's sit back and see who has the integrity and fortitude to [investigate].
David Saint, Phoenix

There is no real law enforcement: If the sheriff's cronies don't go down for this one, there is no real law enforcement in Arizona. Pray that Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard doesn't just wimp out, as usual. These seem to be state law violations, unless the feds can figure out a way to prosecute the scumbags.
Santana Crosby, Phoenix

The Foxian spin: You assume the [Sheriff's Command Association] was a political committee from its inception, but even County Elections says SCA did not become a political committee until August 22, 2008, when I sent money to the Republican Party.

But that's only because it assumes, like you, that giving money to a political party is, by default, for the purpose of influencing an election. Unless stated otherwise, money given to parties must be for elections, right? Wrong. The law does not make this assumption, although judges sometimes do. In fact, the law specifically says that money used by parties specifically may not be for the purposes of influencing elections. So how my money fell into the imaginary default position of election-related, I can only imagine. But it certainly is not based on any law.

I never told you that David Hendershott was not an SCA donor. I told you the donations that went to the Republican Party did not come from him or Sheriff Arpaio. At the time you asked the question, you didn't know if there was more than $105,000, so we only talked about the $105,000. We never discussed additional donations to the SCA.

Although I can see how you might not like my accounting style, or agree with how I divide up the money in the SCA account, I find it very telling that you characterize this as a "lie to my face."

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azsunset1982
azsunset1982

ok Joel I take the bait............ explanation from you is: Money was given to me by all these donors from small to large amounts some by checks clearly stating LLC and note in the memo field " vote for Sheriff Arpiao". You placed these checks as well as regular payroll ( direct deposits)deductions into this SCA account. An account you say was not a PAC. Sometime in the future you decide to give the money to the republican Party ( $ 105000.00) even tho you wanted the money you collected to improve the image of the Deputy or at the very least to help defend them against negative publicity....yet in all the years of collecting you never spend a dime for that noble cause!In essence you collected money from one group.....placed it into SCA.....than gave it to the Rep. Party so in essence you laundered money!!!!!!!!!!Case in point........I have an account called SCA.........I collect money to help under priviledged kids.......I decide I want Saban elected and I give that money to the Democrats to run a nasty ad against Arpiao ......have I done anything illegal? Even tho the checks say Elect Dan Saban or beat Joe Arpiao is that still ok in your mind or was I actually collecting money for Dan Saban by creating a money laundering account especially if I am employed by Mr. Saban and the majority of the Donations are coming from friends of dan Saban? Still ok with that scenario? If that had happened ,the fat butterball would have called a news conference and announced a criminal investigation in my actions and would want to see me crucified. So all the BS you are spouting here is NOT going to wash.....you as a CPT. should know that but to tell you the truth I have a hard time imagining that you actually passed the CPT's Board without strings being pulled on your behalf because your rhetoric in these blogs. Any Cpt with any Agency would NOT be commenting here at all they would know better but here you are!!!!!!!!! Not very smart on your part but than the Lawyer that is advising you is not very smart either..... but you two dishonest individuals deserve each other.....two liars and dishonest Human ........ My opinion and only mine!

Rock
Rock

The sheriff Apraio is just doing his job, he protecting US citizens of the great states of Arizona. California and the rest.

If you get pulled over why cant you show your Driver license to prove your a citizen.

I say keep up the good work.

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Emil Pulsifer
Emil Pulsifer

Joel Fox should start his own media organ and fill it with a never-ending stream of self-serving, right-wing spin and blather. He could call it "Fox News". Oh, wait...somebody's already done that.

 

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