Wow, I'm not a great fan of either act, but being familiar with both and having seen both live, it's pretty obvious that one act uses technology and effects to their advantage, and one uses technology and effects to cover up for a lack of musical ability. Any dickhead can grab a mic and a box from Antares, put in a CD, and yell some stupid shit for an hour. ANYONE can do this. Music composition and performance, however, well, that takes at least a little bit of talent and huevos. I repsect and admire many hip-hoppers - Roots, Mr. Lif, Nas - but Kanye just isn't one of them. To paraphrase the Roots, he ain't saying nothing new. At least the Killers are trying.