On the Mexican-Salvadoran Rivalry, and Hiding Away Artistic Talents

For most of my life I was oblivious to the hate that Mexicans have for Salvadorans. I became aware of it when I made the huge mistake of marrying a Salvi. Once I became engaged to my Salvi girlfriend or whenever I would tell any Mexican that I married a Salvi, I was bombarded with so much hate for Salvis! I'd get responses like "Eww, a Salvi," or "Damn, I feel sorry for you — you married a salvi!" I've now since divorced her and can't stand anything associated with El Salvador. My question, though, is where does the disgust for Salvis from Mexicans originate?
Former Pupusa Eater

Growing up, I never noticed the difference between any Hispanic person. Yo pensaba if you spoke Spanish, it meant to me that you were Mexican (I was little, okay?). Of course, as I grew up, I started noticing all different kinds of Latinos, but one kind in particular were Salvis. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like this feeling that was always there, but I didn't know about it. It was dislike and rivalry toward them. I mean, don't get me wrong: I don't hate them; I just dislike them. And I wasn't the only one! I found out that many Mexicans feel this way, too, as do Salvadorans toward us. So, is this a universal feeling? Am I wrong for feeling this way? Are Mexicans and Salvadorans rivales? If so, ¿por qué?
La Gordis de Guadalajara

Historically, the Mexican-Salvadoran rivalry that so many readers correctamente note has a strong basis. Shortly after Central America gained its independence from Spain in 1821, Mexico tried to swallow the region into its burgeoning empire. The fiercest opposition against this annexation? El Salvador. Eventually, republic-minded Mexicans stopped their country's ambitions and allowed El Salvador and the other Central American provinces to create the United Provinces of Central America. That lasted into the 1830s, by which time Mexico was too busy dealing with another imperial power to care much about recouping its former holdings. And if you know anything about Mexico, it's que we don't take thefts of our lands lightly.

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But that was then, and this is ahorita. There remains no reason for the two countries and their raza to hate each other. Presidents Felipe Calderón and Mauricio Funes met this summer and reached quite a few accords and bilateral agreements. Stateside, wabs and Salvis might compete for the same resources like other recent immigrants, but we're both wetbacks in the eyes of the gabachos (and in the case of Salvis, to echo the legendary Los Tigres del Norte song, tres veces mojado). Let's make peace, Salvadorans — our rivalry is pointless, and the fruits of a union much richer. Besides, hatred between nosotros merely blinds us to the menace between our ancestral lands: Guatemala.

In Northern California, we have many Latino-themed murals on walls, buildings, and storefronts. However, I'm told that in Mexico, such murals are generally on the inside of the buildings (specifically churches), where only the faithful or other insiders can see them. Is this true? Do Mexican mural artists hide their talents away, while those in California are happy to have their work on display for everyone?
Rivera Raver

Not true. Maybe the Catholic Church wants to withhold its artistic treasures like damning pedo-priest personnel files, but the point of the Mexican muralism movement was to create art for the masses and for public consumption — and it remains so today. For more info on perhaps the United States' best collection of such murals, visit precitaeyes.org.

Correction: A couple of weeks ago, in explaining the discrepancies between English and Spanish in pronouncing the letter x, the Mexican stated St. Francis Xavier founded the Jesuits. The order's true founder, of course, was Ignatius of Loyola. The Mexican apologizes for his error and blames the United States for stealing half of Mexico.

 
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Tori
Tori

Just to be more logic, actually it was a huge mistake for your Salvi partner to marry you, a mexican. It is pretty foolish to get a divorce just because your mexican pals felt a inferior complex, and decided lashed out to your Salvi partner that way. You can really see their primitive behavior and cowardliness. Sadly it affects you too, because instead of defending your partner, you turned and gave a stab in the back. But i understand, my Salvi friends always try to not associated themselves with mexican things also, their disgust towards mexicans is pretty raw. While there are mexicans like your self who are clueless and dislike Salvis for reason which you dont even know, which sounds pathetic and childish ; )

Berrysweet
Berrysweet

DUDE chill! nobody cares on what you think.. and FYI it's funny how Salvodereans are always talking about Mexicans but almost 20% of America including whites, mexicans and other races dont even know Salvadoreans exist..lol talk about pathetic. Maybe is because they are just not important. And I think if you dont associate with mexicans, one your a liar 100% and also you are probably not cool enough to hang with them. Oh anf FYI I'm not Mexican, but I would rather hang with them than Salvis.

Omar Flores
Omar Flores

Berrysweet you are mexican, stop acting like you are not....yeah uh Salvadorans talking about Mexicans yet i have never seen Salvadorans making a stupid article like this one made by who? A MEXICAN ...so who is the pathetic one here....and yes Americans do not know Salvadorans exist THANK GOD...yet they do know mexicans exist, that is why i always see in the news that mexicans are discriminated in jobs and schools etc making a mockery of them...actually no its the other way around mexicans are not cool enough for Salvadorans...do to the fact that most Salvadorans that came here to the USA during the Civil War, came as LEGAL REFUGEES and have been established here long enough...where as mexicans come here illegal and dont know shit and come to protest for benefits ...FYI i know your mexicans thats why your all mad and saying you rather hang out with mexicans than Salvis....it doesn take a rocket scientist to know that....

Tori
Tori

Actually its the other way around, its the Salvadorians who hate the Mexicans for pass reason…when the European (Spaniards) came to conquer the Americas, the mexican indians in the Aztec capitol foolishly saw the white settler as gods, while the indigenous peoples of Cuzcatlan in today’s El Salvador Central America saw the Europeans as barbarian and invaders. When the Spanish finally defeated the Aztecs, they proceeded to conquer the Civilizations in Central America Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. The Spanish took mexican indians the (Tlaxcala indians in particular) as auxiliaries, to help them conquer the indigenous in El Salvador. Thus the indigenous people in El Salvador saw the mexican indians as traitors to their own kind, that is were El Salvador’s hate towards mexicans started. The indigenous people in El Salvador were able to drive the Spanish and the mexican allies away for a while. Later, when mexico and Central America freed themselves from Spain, the mexican empire tried to swallow all of Central America, but El Salvador was the first one to object and reject mexico for some reason. that is the second reason why Salvadorian hated mexicans. After when the Salvadorian Civil war had begun, the Salvadorians crossed mexico to the USA as they do today, while crossing mexico, the Salvadorians face with violations and abuse. When the Salvadorians reached the USA they carried that rage and hatred with them, this laso happens to other Central Americans. That is the third reason why Salvadorians hate mexicans. When living in the USA the Salvadorians face abuse by mexican gangs and thus the Salvadorians with their military experience grouped themselves like hornet wasps and created their own gang and drove the mexicans away liek bubble bees from their hives, this was is Los Angeles. fourth reason why Salvadorians hate mexicans. Where as mexicans have no reason to hate Salvadorians. Once I asked a Salvadorian if he was mexicans, and he gave me a horrid look as if he thought mexicans were some kind of insignificant insects. I didn’t understand it, until i did some research. I found it funny when you said about the eww Salvi, because this is only said by mexicans. While the ((ewww mexican)) is said by other and most Latin Americans and Americas as well. I saw a Tyra show where a white American dated a mexican and the her friends bother her constantly saying horrible things about mexicans. I agree that the past is the past and Salvadorians and mexicans should just get along..

Mr. Info
Mr. Info

is the real origins on this rivalry. The origins of this rivalry started in Los Angeles. Since the 1800s and early 1900's most of the latinos in L.A. were made up of mostly Mexicans and Mexican Americans. As salvodorenos started to migrate to Los Angeles in the mid 1900's the Salvodorenos became the minority to the Mexicans. The Mexican people felt they were not part of the same culture and would start picking fights with the salvadorenos. As more Salvadorenos migrated to L.A. they started standing together and would not tolorate getting picked on by anyone especially Mexicans. They fought back and forth and for generations this has still not been forgotten by some Mexican and Salvodorean families as thier hatred of one another is being passed on to thier children. So its pretty much just a case of pride and people still being nieve. AND THIS IS THE REAL ORIGINS.

Berrysweet
Berrysweet

This make sense way better thanks.!

Matt
Matt

Where to begin, this article is full of holes.

Frist,the Mexicans and the Salvidorans "hate" each other and don't get along. However, Mexicans come here in droves and for the most part are welcomed, except for the illegal aliens. They receive free education, healthcare, and other social services--and this still is not enough and cry about racism. Do the Mexicans welcome the Salvidorans into their country as we do the Mexicans? I doubt it. Mexico can't take of their own people.

Secondly, the comment of how the United States stole half of Mexico. The Spanish took the land from the indians, the Mexicans fought independance from Spain, and the U.S. fought the mexicans for the west. If you are worried about who took what from who, then the land should revert back to the indians.

Thirdly, if the western states still belonged to Mexico, what a great place this would be. A territory filled with what is going on south of the boarder--a uninhabitable country. It is estimated there are about 20 million mexicans whom immigrated from mexico living in the united states. That is more than 20 percent of the population of Mexico. What went wron in Mexico?

Instead of taking a article on how the mexicans and salvidorans do not get along and making it an issue of the united states being the bad guy, look in the mirror. If the united states is such a bad place, the boarder is open for you to return to your home country.

 
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