A medal for Garfield?: Don't worry. State Senator Russell Pearce will get Roger Garfield a special bill that allows Arizonans to shoot transients retroactively. Sheriff Joe Arpaio is probably preparing a medal for Garfield.
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That's called self-defense: If you have a weapon pulled on you and somebody still is approaching you in a threatening manner, would you stand by idly and do nothing? He may just overpower you and shoot you with your own weapon.
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No ex post facto: I hope the state Legislature keeps in mind that the Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws.
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Garfield was a good shopkeeper: This article is very one-sided. I frequented the Historic District Antique Mall many times over the years, especially when Roger Garfield was the owner. He's one of the most knowledgeable antique dealers and appraisers in the state.

He's even had homeless fellows in his employment when I've visited, telling me he likes to "help those who are down and out."

It bugs me that this article focuses on only three people in the store the day of the incident, and only people on [the] backstabbing side.

Roger Garfield had a motive: protecting the people in his shop and himself from someone who must have been insane. No one in his right mind would run at a man with a gun unless he wanted to die.
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Suicide by self-defense: Interesting article. The Garfield-Cain shooting has limited similarities to the Harold Fish case.

They both sound like suicide by self-defense since the deceased were both mentally/emotionally unstable. For that matter, Garfield sounds like he doesn't have a full magazine, either.

The background of provocation between Garfield and Cain certainly adds to the complexity. As Ray Stern probably is aware, there are two bills now in the Legislature to make concealed weapons legal without training, education, or a permit: House Bill 2347 and Senate Bill 1108.

This is scary, although education would probably have made little difference with Garfield since his act seems premeditated (at least, the article slants it this way).

What is unnerving about the killing by Garfield and the one by Fish is that while the shooters will probably end up walking the streets again, both are financially devastated defending themselves in the legal system.

Putting the burden of proof on a shooter for self-defense doesn't seem compatible with innocent 'til proven guilty.

The article is a severe indictment of both the public mental-health system and 911.

Cain was a danger to himself from people like Garfield and should have been in treatment. Cops would rather the public not take the law into their own hands but acknowledge they can't be everywhere at once.
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A similar case?: And how about the man who waved a bat at police in his own home in Peoria who was shot dead with two bullets?

Wife calls police, police enter home, and police kill the man. The cops will, no doubt, get off scot-free while Roger Garfield won't.
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Henry w.
Henry w.

"Bobby was a little off his rocker at times, sure. But he was a harmless, decent man who had enjoyed a so-called "normal" life — complete with a home that he owned and a loving wife — before he became chemically imbalanced."

You're not doing a very good job convincing me that this person wasn't dangerous.

Jimmy Neutron
Jimmy Neutron

I think your newsletter needs more boobies. The commentary about Sheriff Joe and other deuchebags is only moderately entertaining. Please include more boobies in future issues. Thank you.

Jimmy Neutron
Jimmy Neutron

I think your newsletter needs more boobies. The commentary about Sheriff Joe and other deuchebags is only moderately entertaining. Please include more boobies in future issues. Thank you.

Heather Vaughan
Heather Vaughan

Wow. Could James Cleveland please let us know what business(es) he owns, so we can all stay far, far away from them? "Blow him away, of course"? Are you kidding me? Maybe we can arrange for he and Paul O'Brien to have a shootout at high noon at the OK Corral.

Teo Buneo
Teo Buneo

All these "tough guys" strongly supporting that spineless murderer Roger Garfield, obviously think solving the homeless problem by murdering them is quite the "In" thing these days aren't quite brave enough to post their names with their support of murder by angry loser assholes like Garfield. They all withheld Name. What complete chicken shit slime!

 
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