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Drywallsk 09/22/2010 6:51:00 PM
I don’t know what planet you live on but yes…I have done many of those jobs as have many of my friends. Especially as kids. That is what we did…kids jobs. Now they are illegal Mexican jobs. I ran a construction company and it got harder and harder to find none illegal help. I finally shut it down. I was not going to be a part of the dismantling of America. This country cannot take 6 billion people on entitlements. The math does not compute. How many illegal’s do you have living in your home? How many do you personally care for? NONE RIGHT. So how is it that you demand that everyone else pay for them?
You seriously need to watch this wonderful video by numbers America. Please share it with your friends: Gummballs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgz6ZCqhtg
SHOULD JUDGE SUSAN BOLTON HAVE HEARD THE ARIZONA IMMIGRATION LAW CASE? She should be arrested for hearing the case! http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/01/are-all-of-the-federal-judges-now-scofflaws-also/
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sweet16 09/21/2010 4:49:00 AM
Can anyone who is for SB 1070 stand up and say that you have never paid for the services of some one you know is illegal? Who do you think subsidizes our cost of living?
People, let us realize that these politicians are playing us for fools on this issue. If businesses had no demand/market for illegal immigrants and did not hire them as bus boys etc would illegal immigrants be attracted to America?
Second, we say these people stole our jobs... what jobs.. do we work as cleaners, constructions workers, busboys, maid etc??? No we do not... so what's the point.
They are involved in crime, according to who? Why did Russell Pearce hire an undocumented worker in the first place??? These people are just trying to get by...
People let us think critically and not emotionally/sentimentally about this issue...
People think about
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seriously? 08/12/2010 5:46:00 AM
Rescue??? Are you kidding me??? Feds to rescue what? Feds as in Federales!! Wouldn't it be awesome if the US Government actually supported and backed the majority? Oh well. Dreams are dreams. In the mean time, please continue to bust your hump working and paying taxes to support your illegal neighbors' health care needs and cover damages done by illegal uninsured motorists. Sounds fair. Seriously, its not RACIAL, its ILLEGAL.
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08/09/2010 8:32:00 PM
Can I get you a pitcher of cool aid!
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08/09/2010 8:28:00 PM
What are they going to rescue? Do you mean supporting an invasion of La Raza Reconquest's bent on the destruction of America? Or maybe you mean the protection of "Jack Pot" babies that are going to begin coming of age (21) soon that will be able to bring over millions more of IA to expand the "baby war" the Latino IA are waging? Or do you mean the millions of white liberals that are abusing the 14th amendment to legitimize a "race guilt" perpetrated by the La Raza? Or maybe you mean the protection of the illegal abuse of the social security trust fund to support IA with illegal entitlements that they are not entitled to? I do not understand your article. Please clarify? Illegal is not a Race and therefore cannot be discriminated against. Thank You.
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Ejonaz 08/06/2010 3:38:00 AM
I agree with all of your comments so far. We shouldn't have to bend everything for any race that can not speak the predominant language, and we should definitely not have to pay for the fact that they can not support them selves financially. Not to isolate or anything but it's pure fact that poverty level Hispanics bear more children despite the fact that they are already on food stamps, government funded health insurance, and cash assistance. Why do we have to pay for that? Can you imagine what the state can do for it's self if that insane amount of money was not going to people who just can't keep their damn legs closed or use contraceptives? And as far as the deportation goes! It does not incriminate at all because the fact of the matter is that if you do not have a working visa, you can and will be deported and my co worker from England was a prime example of that. He didn't renew his working visa and on a civil traffic warrant was transported to Florence prison where deports go, and sent back to England. And this happened over a year and a half ago, before SB1070. Like I've said before, this is just another reason for extremists and ethnic groups to cry out racism but it's a bunch of bull shit and my friend from England is proof of that. He didn't complain a bit either, he knew it was his fault for not keeping up with his paper work.
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Terry 08/05/2010 5:58:00 PM
#'s 2-11 are all optional matters. You make the choice whether or not to show your id to complete those transaction. So those points are all moot.
If you choose to give up your Identifying information to anyone who asks that is your own business. So please do not get all indigent when your identity is stolen because you are not very secure with your stuff.
#1 - is a very interesting point of view.
WHY do have to show the LEO id?
If you are driving then you need to prove that you have the states government permission to be driving on their road.
If you are just walking or just a passenger in a vehicle and YOU are not engaged in a unlawful activity then the LEO has not met the standards for reasonable suspicion so you are not required to show any form of id. LEO will then threaten arrest if you do not show them what they want. This in it self is a bluff that when they are called on they follow through with and then a lawyer will make the false report, that the LEO will have to create to cover their butts, into kitty litter and you have all the ingredients to win a false arrest lawsuit.
Now the key thing here is that you do not have to cave into the jack booted oppressor IF YOU ARE NOT engaged in an criminally illegal activity.
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07/29/2010 9:41:00 PM
It is time that the U. S. Government spend some money in the United States to keep out the illegals no matter what country they come from. Our borders have been way to easy to cross anywhere in the U.S. We are having horrible trouble with the illegals coming from Mexico and the taxpayers have to take care of them and their children. We have sent enough money out of this country to help others and it is time to keep the tax dollars HOME and take care of the citizens in the U.S. and make sure the illegals are sent home until they can come back in a legal manner, learn to speak english and go to work and pay taxes to take care of themselves. Our schools should not have to teach classes both in english and spanish. If they can't speak english they need to go back where they came from. IT IS TIME FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS BE SPENT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN AND NOT OTHERS ALL THE TIME.
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VoiceOfTheTrueAmericans 07/29/2010 9:09:00 PM
Please, this judge is a pathetic excuse for a POLITICIAN. BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION! How do you excuse a portion of a law? Does that mean we can also dismiss a part of the Constitution as well? Recall this FACIST PAID EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN. Make sure she has paid her student loans and any thing else legally off.
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Deathfrombelow21 07/29/2010 5:12:00 AM
Horrible article. So far slanted to the left I wanted to go hug a tree and cry. Heck I think I now have compassion for ticks, fleas and spiders. This was so not well written I am almost afraid to ask where this writer went to school. Obama University? Degree in how to screw America?
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07/28/2010 6:20:00 PM
Isn't it the Nativist contention that illegal aliens are all living off government benefits? So Stephen wouldn't have any costs at all under that argument. I liked the fact that America was different from other countries, in that you had freedom to travel without having to get permission from authorities.
Maybe we should be worried about those "White Russians" a little more with the recent spy scandal...
My New Mexico driver's license is truthful in every detail (okay, maybe the weight is a little off), but would not be accepted in Arizona under SB 1070. The effects of SB 1070 is not being debated here, it's what it does to Hispanic lawful residents that is troubling. Illegal "White Russians" won't be caught because they don't fit the profile.
I'm a Conservative, so don't call me a "liberal" with your Nativist notions...
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GWPDA 07/28/2010 4:57:00 PM
Why is it the most bigoted, foolish and irrational people identify themselves by their inability to spell?
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GWPDA 07/28/2010 4:54:00 PM
Very much the pattern of every other harm that Arpaio and his allies have produced over the years.
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DontTreadOnMe 07/28/2010 4:51:00 PM
FACTS: Illegal is NOT a race, it is a status. You need proper documentation in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY on EARTH. If the AZ police determine that a white person from Russia is here illegally, then they are being deported too. One more thing...I would bet the author of this article choses NOT to house even ONE illegal in his home. You want to pay for it, then you are more than welcome to have them stay at your house. YOU pay for everything they need. Then you might have a leg to stand on, other wise it's just Liberal blather....
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07/28/2010 3:15:00 PM
My wife has a New Mexico driver's license (we live a couple hours away from Arizona), something that Janet Brewer has said is not enough to prove lawful residency or U.S. citizenship. And you didn't comprehend my statement that a Legal Permanent Resident that naturalizes (becomes a citizen) is not required to carry proof of their citizenship. I don't say these things in a trivial way, the state of Arizona will find out situations will arise where they will unjustifiably detain U.S. citizens and legal immigrants.
Believe me, legally immigrating my wife and three stepchildren produced enough paperwork from USCIS, but we aren't in the habit (nor legally required) of carrying all that stuff. But you aren't thinking of the delays in our lives if we have a traffic stop in Arizona, with the amount of time it will take to verify (as Stephen says, probably requiring detaining them then transporting to the closest facility) my family's legal residency. Your comments suggest that you are ultimately unfamiliar with the immigration process, and uncaring about unfair measures as long as it doesn't affect you or your loved ones.
You refer to "Equal Protection" under the law, but are unwilling to give the same courtesy to naturalized citizens and legal immigrants...
I hear about the "put up checkpoints everywhere" people every day. The suggestion that EVERYONE should experience these intrusions into their lives would probably be a grand idea in the end. It would make people realize that we truly don't want that when it affects them personally.
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stone 07/28/2010 2:57:00 PM
I sure hope that the judge helps AZ work through this law. I agree that there are three parts of SB 1070 that should not hold up in court and it appears that she may not allow these three parts to go through. It also appears the bulk of the proposed law might go through. So just reword those three parts and get on with the passing. Thanks for leading the way AZ and at least seven of us other states are going to be moving right in behind you.
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enonimouse 07/28/2010 6:25:00 AM
America "the continent" has no de jure government, stupid. America the country, Mexico the country and Canada the country are all separate and sovereign entities with different laws and governments. North America and Central America are geographic designations, stupid. There is no North American CITIZENSHIP you fucking invalid, err, i mean stupid.
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Becca 07/28/2010 5:42:00 AM
There would be no problem Steve if you aiders and abetters would just take them home with you and foot all their bills.
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Becca 07/28/2010 5:39:00 AM
Everyone has some form of ID..If your wife is stopped and asked to prove citizenship while driving she must have a DL...Registration and proof of insurance,Unless you are wanting to sue AZ there is no reason she should not be on these documents...
Why should I be asked for all this when everybody that is here legally and going thru the proper steps to become a citizen would want to have enough documention to prove their legal status..The ones who are going to be suing are those who do something purposely to draw suspicion.to themselves.
The only antidiscrimitory solution is for ALL Citizens to refuse to prove who we are.No pic ID...,Black out all names and SS #'s on proof of ins and registation..Why should we follow laws if illegals don't have to?.
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07/27/2010 9:51:00 PM
"...One pertinent example: SB 1070 makes it a crime for a lawfully present alien not to carry with him or her an alien-registration document. That person, picked up by local law enforcement, would likely be taken directly to jail..."
But United States Code 1304(e) that Section 3 of SB 1070 refers to is actually a now-defunct provision (the Alien Registration Act of 1940) that specifically does not regulate Legal Permanent Residents and valid visa holders. So, for instance, if an Arizona law enforcement officer asks my Legal Permanent Resident wife for her " Certificate of Alien Registration" she isn't going to be able to provide it. If she is then wrongly detained under SB 1070 we are going to sue.
Legal Permanent Residents only have to carry their Resident Card if they are 18 years or older. The penalty is a misdemeanor at the Federal level, something that SB 1070 is more harsh at, and creating the prospect of double-jeopardy. SB 1070 does not mimic current immigration law, but rather rewrites sections of it for usage only in the state of Arizona.
Scarier still is the aspect that an individual that has naturalized is not required to carry proof of their U.S. citizenship. My wife has an accent, and in about six months we will apply for her naturalization. Of course it is going to raise suspicion by an officer that stops her and wrongly believes she is not legally present in the United States.
I think the way it will come down is that the judicial process will be slow, allowing SB 1070 to briefly go into effect, and dozens of court cases will quickly arise from wrongful detention. After a few weeks or months, it will get struck down in court, or at least put on hold. Arizona is then left to pay all of the claims, and willingly retracts it after millions of dollars in damages and credibility.
Taking years to recover from the bad blood they unleashed...
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Katbouch 07/27/2010 7:02:00 PM
geography 101
if the undomented that you are talking about are from south, central or north america- that pretty much makes them american '- stupid. (the continent
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07/27/2010 7:43:00 AM
I agree, the hate has to stop but it's hard to quit screaming when people are cutting off your cookies and laughing at you because your own laws are working against you. This is not a race problem (what is a mexican race?) but a problem of us (USA) being too lax and trying to accomodate the whole world...now it's a mess 'cause too many folks feel entitled without earning it.
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07/27/2010 7:33:00 AM
OK, most prisons in the USA are privately owned and operated, so your point is ? Like Joe said, if it's good enough for the men and women who are defending this country, it's good enough for our criminals. I think it's too good for these domestic terrorists and illegal ALIENS.
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07/27/2010 7:19:00 AM
any time I broke the law, no-one ever gave me amnesty...I bit the bullet for EVERYTHING I ever did wrong, as it should be.
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enonimouse 07/27/2010 4:51:00 AM
and TORTURE - just flowery, BS verbiage? What the hell does all this refer to? Come out of a book of quotes?
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enonimouse 07/27/2010 4:50:00 AM
Ok. What the hell does that have to do with slavery and a caste system?
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optimusprime 07/27/2010 1:57:00 AM
Big on talk and short on valid legal argument.Full speed ahead after the anchor babies !
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ALL AT RISK IN ARIZONA!! 07/26/2010 12:25:00 AM
What the Arizona Governor and legislators have shown it's not about "peoples' feeling", they do not care about people, period! The inhumanity in a state that holds itself out as a compassionate conservative state is nothing but hypocrisy. The "elected Gods" will one day have to answer to a higher being.
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At Risk in Arizona! 07/26/2010 12:05:00 AM
ps - Arizona a police and prison state. Detention Centers privately held, no oversight, no accountability. The Governor, her advisors lobbyists for CCA and private prisons should raise many red flags. And you think you aren't at risk for arrest and being thrown into Arizona's criminal justice system? Think again.
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The "Palin Effect" 07/26/2010 12:01:00 AM
She is owned by Senator Pearce who controls Arizona.
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TaxpayingVoter 07/25/2010 9:59:00 PM
That's good. The boarder gets pissy when crossed....lol
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TaxpayingVoter 07/25/2010 9:58:00 PM
Obviously the fact that Mexico is part of North America.
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enonimouse 07/25/2010 5:36:00 PM
Wtf? The hell are you talking about?
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Mojarra420 07/25/2010 10:47:00 AM
American CONTINENT
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Former Republican 07/25/2010 6:31:00 AM
Stephen, Great reporting and coverage!
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RedneckMexican 07/25/2010 2:02:00 AM
spanglish:
>How much heat produce 23.000.000 millions of illegals? By the way that's is the real figure.
Heat? WTF are you rambling about?
>How much forest is lost because of the illegals?
I could ask the same of many "land developers", who have paved over our forests and deserts for decades...
>How much trash is left by the illegals.
How much trash is left by humans in general?
>How many drugs are passed by the illegals
Maybe if the issue of drugs were treated differently as a social issue rather than a criminal issue, we wouldn't have this problem.
>How many diseases are spread by the illegals?
Ah, the "dirty mexican" attack (which has been applied to every immigrant population in history) - you're tarded, aren't you? You do realize that disease and other biological vectors are spread through varied means, don't you? Including yourself, your family, the air.
Do they teach biology in schools any longer?
>How many people are kill by illegals?
Statistics alone would suggest less are killed (your engrish sucks, btw) than by citizens; I mean, you have a 10+:1 (according to your figures!) difference in population...
>How many terrorist are illegals?
Hmm - I don't know, how many? I do know that all the 9/11 terrorists were here on legal visas (although some may have expired - which isn't unusual, btw); the other incidents of "terrorism" in this country were performed by American citizens...
>How many indoctrinators are illegals?
How many work for Fox News? There's your answer!
>How many robberies are done by illegals?
Once again, probably not as many as were done by citizens. The statistics of the situation would tend to support that conclusion.
>How much water has been used by illegals?
You don't know much about the water cycle, do you?
>How much energy is used by illegals?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
>How much damage to the enviroment is done by the illegals?
How much damage is done by humanity in general?
>How much money do the US spend on illegals?
Probably a pittance when compared to the rest of the citizen population.
>How many murders are done by illegals?
You already asked this, more or less, and the answer is the same.
>How many know What illegal mean?
I am not even sure what relevance that has to this discussion?
>Illegals go home
Before you cast your stones, you would do well to examine your own glass house...
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enonimouse 07/24/2010 10:00:00 PM
Since when are illegal immigrants Americans?
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Mojarra420 07/24/2010 9:35:00 PM
"May slavery be banished forever together with the distinction between castes, all remaining equal, so Americans may only be distinguished by vice or virtue... In the new laws, may torture not be allowed"
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el mojado 07/24/2010 9:04:00 PM
I crossed the border not the Boarder, tho...
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enonimouse 07/24/2010 4:37:00 PM
Undocumented/Unafraid said:
"LETS BE FRIENDS WE ARE LEAVING IN THE SAME COUNTRY"
You're leaving? Ok, we can be friends. Be sure to write often.
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here Legally 07/24/2010 12:47:00 AM
Of course its not Racial Profiling Its just ................ another excuse.........
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Fritz16142 07/24/2010 12:46:00 AM
Become a US Citizen, Pay taxes, Then we can become friends.........
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Midtown21212003 07/24/2010 12:44:00 AM
Dont you see, its just an excuse . They will come up with as many excuses as they can to get around the law . Plan and simple GET naturalized... Be come a US Citizen. Pay Taxes ,Learn English. Stop Breaking the law by crossing Our boarders illegally. Problem solved. It time for a new President ? I thiought Obama was going to do some good , But like most of Washington. there Lame ducks in the water .. Bush was no better.Go figure.
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thomas hinderson 07/24/2010 12:35:00 AM
I cant believe this is happening in the United State of America. Get it!!! United States Of AMERICA! US Born Citizens are sick and tired of Illegal imagration. If you have a Valid Social Security Card, A Valid Drivers License, and you are here LEGALLY , Whats the problem? Crossing the Boarder, by climbing over the fence is a crime. And the millions allready here Illegally, Become a US Citizen . Cost of Social Sevices are rising .Hospitals cant afford free health care to millions who use the system and stay in the system .Many states this year and the next will be compiling the same bills . The time for change is now and Gov. Jan Brewer is leading the way.
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Viper!! 07/23/2010 9:31:00 PM
I am a Hispanic male. I am an American Citizen born in Yavapai County. Now, I believe that the migration of people does need to stop. From all corners of the earth. We do need to do something about it. A law is a law. but some people need to not be so rude and bigoted when they speak of illegals. We are becoming a nation of people who really don't care of other peoples feelings. I am an American Citizen I do not want to be treated like an illegal because I am brown. Just my opinion.
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Why 07/23/2010 9:09:00 PM
One pertinent example: SB 1070 makes it a crime for a lawfully present alien not to carry with him or her an alien-registration document
You do realize tat as a natural born citizen it is a crime to operate a moter vehicle without having your drivers licence on your person - why is such a law racist when applied to people here illegally, or at the mercy of the governem, but not when applied to actuall law abiding citizens?
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unducumented/unafraid 07/23/2010 8:50:00 PM
unducumented/unafraid
Good bless you all
Dont be affraid everithing is going to be ok.
Just pray and pray because there still a lot of people with power that thinks that the color of you skin is not good enough. You have to understand that we are here and we are not leaving so how abouth if we all fix this problem by getting the best solution for all of us. I know you language, I know you history, I know you law, I probably dated you daughther I am not the enemy. Drugh dealers, killers, rapers, theafs, alchoholics, they are from many diferent cultures not only unducument people. LETS BE FRIENDS WE ARE LEAVING IN THE SAME COUNTRY GOD BLESS AMERICA AND JUSTICE FOR ALL
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Just Saying... 07/23/2010 8:49:00 PM
The Feds will come to the Rescue...when? They haven't done so in years why start now?! AZ needs this law, and the law is taken directly from the Federal law. So if you want to boycott or complain about it, do it correctly and boycott the U.S! It is NOT RACIAL PROFILING...Did you read the law!?? It states that if you have pulled someone over for a traffic violation, or have them in custody for a crime they have already commited you can ask for proof of citizenship...Its not hey you are brown I am gonna pull you over and make sure you are legal... People who immigrated here ILLEGALLY should have thought of the consequences before doing so. Everyone should take accountability for their actions, and the reprecussions of those actions for them and the children they brought here. Coming into a country illegally, commiting fraud and stealing peoples identities, commiting tax evasion are serious crimes along with many others...and any CITIZEN would be made to take accountability if they stole someones Identity and so forth. What people are implying is that it is okay for me to break into your home, steal your things, take advatage of your home and it is okay because I am doing it to better myself and my family... Thanks, I will keep that in consideration..Good thing I have responsibility and take accountability for my actions and think before I do something that could negatively affect me or my family and then when the time comes to suffer the consequences I dont make up some excuse and throw racism into it to save myself from having to take responsibility for what I have done.I think all states should take this law and put it into play since our government hasn't done so! (BTW I am not a conservative, I have just lived in AZ most of my life and have witnessed first hand the affects it has had on this state. I just believe that if you wanted to come to USA so bad, do it the right way like all the CITIZENS of this country who immigrated here did, learn English and do what is necessary to get here legally or suffer the consequences of your actions...)
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SecondClassCITIZEN 07/23/2010 6:19:00 PM
Two things...
First, "The Feds Will Come to the Rescue", Huh? So the Federal Government is coming to rescue non-citizens at the expense of its own citizens. In related news 'up' is now 'down'.
Second, if the Federal Government is tasked with making and enforcing immigration policy, but declines to do the latter. What recourse does a state and its citizens have if they are enjoined from doing what the feds won't? (serious question) In other words, if the feds won't enforce immigration laws, states can't either. But it is the states and their citizens that must bare the consequences.
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Liberal-lies 07/23/2010 5:50:00 PM
Furthermore, the Constitution explicitly gives Congress the power to "establish an uniform rule of naturalization," which it has in the form of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
It is not uniform when the laws on the books say one thing and then without any formal decree the Fed decides to ignore the law under the guise of priority. Exposing liberal lies is a new cottage industry. That 1st lie is the Constitution is vague.
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Mary 07/23/2010 5:49:00 PM
ID carry it! If you don't have it and you look and speak like an immigrant then don't come to AZ!
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MARY 07/23/2010 5:46:00 PM
GO HOME WE DONT WANT YOU HERE!@!!@
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Mary 07/23/2010 5:45:00 PM
If you are an illegal immigrant GO HOME!!!
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LITTLEPRAIRIEDM 07/23/2010 5:09:00 PM
Stilling someones social security number is a crime. Being in the US illegally is a crime. I am a US citizen and am suffering greatly because an illegal immegrent has stolen my S.S number. THAT IS CRIMINAL!
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07/23/2010 4:56:00 PM
I really like this and I wish it becomes reality otherwise our lives won't be the same, Iunderstand the opinion of each person in favor or not of this law, but the people who is a favor have tothink that we are humans and it is the main thing , you have to think as human as person because you don't in which situacion you will be and you don'nt know who is going to help you, we are here because we have work, we have house, we make monthly payments of everything as you we also do income taxes, the people who works with a fake ss no. and get the payment by check never get the money so where is all the millions of dollars that the social security take from all de indocumented people, we pay taxes every time we buy something, WE ARE NOT CRIMINAL,we are only a hard working people. God bless all of you.
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Pedro 07/23/2010 4:05:00 PM
If this is a joke, it is hilarious. If not, it is just pathetic.
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Pedro 07/23/2010 4:02:00 PM
Nice prediction. Read the real news much? The bums lost Lebowski! My suggestion to you Sir is get a job!
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spanglish 07/23/2010 1:38:00 PM
How much heat produce 23.000.000 millions of illegals? By the way that's is the real figure.
How much forest is lost because of the illegals?
How much trash is left by the illegals.
How many drugs are passed by the illegals
How many diseases are spread by the illegals?
How many people are kill by illegals?
How many terrorist are illegals?
How many indoctrinators are illegals?
How many robberies are done by illegals?
How much water has been used by illegals?
How much energy is used by illegals?
How much damage to the enviroment is done by the illegals?
How much money do the US spend on illegals?
How many murders are done by illegals?
How many know What illegal mean?
Illegals go home
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Hellajeepus 07/23/2010 12:43:00 PM
did you pay taxes in those 22 yrs ? buying a soda from the local wal-mart doesn't help the economy as you might think
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Schlotzsky 07/23/2010 7:37:00 AM
Your ID, dumbass.
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illegal is illegal!!! 07/23/2010 4:38:00 AM
The Feds will lose this battle! Go Jan!
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human 07/23/2010 4:26:00 AM
If they lived he 18 years and 6 months of their 19 years of life....is this not HOME? We do go to their country and "do" crimes. It's called summer vaction/spring break. I'm a U.S citizen but if you stood me next to an"illegal" you couldn't tell us apart. How's an underpaid beat cop supposed to tell us apart......?
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Dog200112 07/23/2010 4:07:00 AM
any citizen legal or illegal is going to be in the same situation of course nobody wants this happen until happen
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the thruth 07/23/2010 4:05:00 AM
i think ur a fake because the inmigration laws are so bad that anybody thats from mexico has at least a few family members that are not legal even if most family is....
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thruth hurts 07/23/2010 4:00:00 AM
you talk a lot of nosense illegal inmigrants work harder in a month than u have ever worked in ur whole life just because u where born in the u.s. u think ur owed or worth more than another human being....
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Tr7fan 07/23/2010 3:51:00 AM
federal law has required that aliens in the us carry and present id papers to officials when asked since the 40s
the supreme court has declared racial profiling legal in cases such as these in the past i
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unducument/unaffraid 07/23/2010 1:45:00 AM
Hi im unducumented and im not affraid. I have live in this country for 22 years. Many unducumented people like me dint have a choice some one on our family decide that the best thing for us was to live in the USA. I being working realy hard in this state(AZ) by spending my money here i help phoenix economy. I dont drink, I dont do drugs, and I have not kill anyone in this country. If i get pull over and i get depported i will probably come back here. It doesnt matter if i have to walk the dessert 20 times i will come back. Why? I dont know any other country, i dont have family other than the USA, I dont know any other sistem but the one this great country has. I have being trying to fix my legal status for so many years but the imigration system we have in this country is brokend and someone has to fix it, no for me but for our future generations. Everyone deserves a chance in this earth wether is america or any other countinente. Oh by the way im in a wellchair and all this years i have being able to work and suport myself with out any goverment assistence. We dont take nothing from nobody the opportunities are here today, yesterday and i belive they are going to be here for a while. If you are a real American Citizen you will fight for you oportunities and for your familys future. Good Bless America and Good Bless all of the immigrans in this planet, but most of all Good Bless You because in the bible sais that we have to love and pray for our enemies. (in advance i appologice for my spelling but i think my english is good enoght to send my point accros)
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Uscitizenbybirth 07/23/2010 12:26:00 AM
Weel let me see his prediction was was wrong. No savior today! There is way more than just standing in front of a judge going hay lets just throw this out.. It don't work that way. You have to look at in may lights. not with one side eyes. with many eyes. to find a judge like that was hard, but I do believe they did! If not she would have already made her decision. I see her going over the cases very carefully. This is a women who knows the law. I believe when they designed the federal laws, they were made to help States not hang them or hinder them. The way people are acting there trying to hinder an already active federal law that should have been enforced to it's fullest a long time ago. To allow 12 million illegals to cross into this country is a crying shame.. I think we should go to there country and do the same crimes they come here and done.. they would be pissed. We would be imprisoned there. So what gives them the right to think they deserve this. for free. you have to earn it like every American or immigrant. Get off your butt and earn your citizenship. That's all I'm saying! This has nothing to do with the color of your skin, race, where your from.. your get off your azz quit sneaking around and hiding and become real AMERICANS.. iF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR PAPERS THEN GO HOME..
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bses 07/23/2010 12:11:00 AM
Your ID is not driver's license. It is a big document ( except for GC). try carrying that with you all the time.
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Jxj7272 07/22/2010 11:03:00 PM
Do you realize how many times you're asked for an ID? Think about it. I can't for the life of me see why you'd get upset at being asked for an ID.
I'm a legal American citizen and I must show my ID when:
1. Pulled over by the police.
2. Making purchases on my department store credit card.
3. When I show up for a doctor's appointment.
4. When filling out a credit card or loan application.
5. When applying for or renewing a driver's license or passport.
6. When applying for any kind of insurance.
7. When filling out college applications.
8. When donating blood.
9. When obtaining certain prescription drugs.
10. When making some debit purchases, especially if I'm out of state.
11. When collecting a boarding pass for airline or train travel.
I'm sure there are more instances, but the point is that we citizens of the USA are required to prove who we are nearly every day!
Why should people in this country illegally, be exempt!!!!!
Why shouldn't we guard our borders as closely as every other country in the world does?
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Despinoza110 07/22/2010 10:52:00 PM
correction if you dont have your documentation with you, you will be arrested until you provide that information
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Despinoza110 07/22/2010 10:50:00 PM
I think you misread the law the law states; even if you are legally here and you are stopped by the police and you are suspected to be "illegal" you are going to be asked for you documentation. I don't know about you but I know I dont want to be carrying my birth certificate everywhere because if you are stopped and you have the documentation that shows you are legally here your going to be put in jail until you can provide that information. Maybe you might want to read more on this it affects you more than you think!!!!
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Csimps28 07/22/2010 10:24:00 PM
thats the stupidest thing that i have ever heard.
so if its ok for illegals to come the the United States for a better life than does that mean i can rob a bank to make life easier for my family. (ya i think not)
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Csimps28 07/22/2010 10:21:00 PM
please can some of you who apose this law give me a reason why illigals should be here besides pulling the race card ( wich is the only card you have to play) all i ever here is nazzi and kkk s*&t from a bunch of idiats who have no idea what theyr talking about. those for the law give reasons why the law is good and those who apose just spout out
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Delawarewc 07/22/2010 10:19:00 PM
John, you are really looking into a mirrir, fuctard.
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Csimps28 07/22/2010 10:10:00 PM
and you say this why..... because your probly illegal
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Gettet85041 07/22/2010 9:37:00 PM
I am legal, I agree with this law because the law is not saying don't come here. The laws is saying if you are going to come do it the right way so you won't get hasseled by the law. there are some of that have been here for many of years and never even bothered to learn how to speak english. My family are from mexico but they are legally here. I think that they have worked very hard for us to stay here and be apart of this country.
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R Petitti 07/22/2010 9:31:00 PM
Yes, liberal thinking at its best. Great answers, very well thought out....NOT
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Truth08 07/22/2010 7:50:00 PM
Today is the day Lemons!! Hopefully Bolton, will put a "squash" in the hearts, of the "tea-baggers" behind this bigoted law!!
Regards,
Truth08
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john 07/22/2010 7:39:00 PM
iamlegal I second your motion and it would be carried by a majoroty Americans across the country. Lemmons is a fucktard
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Devils Advocate 07/22/2010 6:41:00 PM
"The neo-nazis (read GOP and tea partiers) who created this legislation would have everyone of us believe that Obama has failed to secure our borders for their own political advantage."
So not true. I am a liberal Democrat and am all over this law. Having lived in AZ my whole life, I have seen first hand what unchecked illegal immigration has done. Unless you live in AZ and deal with this on a day to day basis, you just cannot understand what it's like. They are destroying our deserts with water bottles and trash, running drugs, running people and drop houses, sucking up social services, sucking the LIFE out of our school systems, you name it!
I believe in every nationalities right to immigrate LEGALLY but this is for the birds.
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iamlegal 07/22/2010 6:36:00 PM
you're a fucking dolt, Lemons.
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Arthursanchez50 07/22/2010 6:34:00 PM
Dear Stephen Lemmons,
Excellent article, my friend! I also applaud Mr. Jack Chin for his very insightful and beautifully articulated understanding of the truth.
I love America and I love Arizona and there is a very unselfish way to deal with every problem. Unfortunately, most of us cannot help but be self-centered in our endeavors to do good to our respective causes.
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Ernie 07/22/2010 6:09:00 PM
so i guess your solution is to let a bunch of racist pigs tell us how to govern. its people like you who make this state a laughing matter.
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Rossphx 07/22/2010 5:37:00 PM
Easy to predict the result. I'll predict the timing. Tomorrow around 4pm. That's when federal courts like to drop bombshells. Release the ruling, then leave town for the weekend.
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Cathy 07/22/2010 5:23:00 PM
Just a question. If we are not allow to pass a law that the federal already has a law in effect, does that mean that New York cannot have a law that no one can own a gun? Does that mean we cannot have a law about how alcohol is serve in the state?
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Kikirimiau 07/22/2010 4:55:00 PM
LMAOL!!!
you are right Ernie.,....good analogy....................
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Tom 07/22/2010 3:51:00 PM
The neo-nazis (read GOP and tea partiers) who created this legislation would have everyone of us believe that Obama has failed to secure our borders for their own political advantage. However, NO president has ever secured our borders; especially Bush 2 who, instead, wasted billions of dollars invading Iraq! Tell, me how can we logically fight a "War on Terror" and not secure our own borders as a first step? Now that McCain is being challenged on the right by a late-night television huckster he disavows his previous attempts to get meaningful immigration REFORM passed. Anyway, I hope that y'all don't miss your lettuce, strawberries, etc. when the pickers are rounded up and deported...
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07/22/2010 3:06:00 PM
Mr Lemons......what the heck are you talking about ...the feds to the rescue...are you smoking something with the illegal criminal...we are talking about people that broke our law..
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07/22/2010 3:04:00 PM
the big problem that the feds don,t do a thing,,is inland enforcement...the ones that stand in malls, day workers......and going after the employers...you see not one bit of enforcement here......if employers were gotten tough with, and the day workers and idependent workers...they would not com...and this has to envolve the local police...no way about it
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Ernie 07/22/2010 2:01:00 PM
if a new law came that made white people prove they are not white trash, would you still support it. I, mean, you will be stopped because you are white. if you have no prove then you go to jail. you will have to prove you're not trash, can you do that., Then the law ids fair
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Bjohns15 07/22/2010 11:53:00 AM
Well done, Mr. Lemons. As a reporter, you understand the legal aspects quite well, and to boot, put it in an inspiring "cavalry" is coming way.
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Kelly 07/22/2010 8:16:00 AM
The Feds know best? I'm pretty sure the people of the local communities know what's best for them.
Stop using the cop-out that this action comes from the KKK or Nazis. It comes from people who are sick of the illegal invasion and want it stopped. Skilled workers who respect the United States' laws and want to participate and contribute to its culture are welcome if they are willing to pay their taxes and be accountable for their actions.
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Former Republican 07/22/2010 6:16:00 AM
Stephen, Thanks for the great reporting.
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CooperG 07/22/2010 5:30:00 AM
Can't read can you? S.B. 1070 d-o-e-s-n-'-t mirror Federal law. That is bullshit spread by proponents like Pearce and Arpaio and Thomas.
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robert 07/22/2010 5:03:00 AM
The feds know what's best. This is unjust law invented by nazi and kkk
member pearce.
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Dum Dum 07/22/2010 4:56:00 AM
The writer is really going to look like a dum dum When the crazy lady turns out to be right .
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Quit whining, it's the law 07/22/2010 4:29:00 AM
"breathing while brown" to describe a law that basically mirrors Federal immigration law.
This is what passes for journalism these days. Even the Phoenix Times ought to be ashamed of this tripe.
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FED UP IN PHOENIX 07/22/2010 3:26:00 AM
QUIT WHINNING ABOUT IT GET YOUR LEGAL STATUS OR LEAVE THE STATE. Or better yet all you whinners just your azzes into mexico or anyother country ILLEGALLY and See what it gets your dumbazzes. It's going to happen so be prepared for it. I am tired of supporting the TRASH that invades my country.
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hetalhead 07/22/2010 3:09:00 AM
Judge Bolton Sucks! Leave Arizona alone!One of best laws ever passed!