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Disappointment 09/13/2010 5:15:00 PM
if illegal is illegal then arest then many American citizens should make the frist move and arrest themself take the first move show the way it takes two and employer and an employee only picking on the worker is racist and you know it.
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sk1951 08/12/2010 2:53:00 AM
Racism bigotry race war supremacy ideology hate monger generic labeling⌠These are the tools being used today to help destroy America and demonize our American culture. Minorityâs can use labeling and slander but those of the Caucasian race cannot. If you call a black man the N wordâŚitâs OkâŚIF YOUR BLACK! But if a white man does itâŚyouâre on the lame stream front page.
I am sick of all this reverse racist PC bigotry being aimed at me, my country, my roots and my heritage. All our American heritage is being destroyed because the founding fathers were white men? White men that loved freedom and liberty so much that the numbers that died for it cannot be calculated. Now they are being victimized? Their good deeds and hard fought work slandered! And for whatâŚtheir color or lack of?
This race issue has to come out of the closet before we can legitimately do anything to gain control of our country again. Anything other than a rampage toward socialism is instantly stigmatized with âracistâ or âwhite manâ bigotry. If not so serious this would be a laughable joke! White society is being guilt tripped into giving up their country and their heritage.
What are the facts of pride and heritage?:
1. Who and what you are is your heritageâŚand you will naturally lean and conform toward that side of yourself. It is normal and natural. And you will want a better life for you and yours within your race or heritage. This is just normal human nature. Political minorities canât help but side with their own.
2. Where did American heritage come from? Europeans. White guys. Is there right or wrong here? No! Any group could have joined together and created the United States. But the reality is that Europeans did it. Should white people be happy or sad about this fact of life?
So the fact is that this country was founded on principals never seen before or sense. The men combined common knowledge and Godly wisdom with a desire to be truly free in a Republic. They worked to lay down a foundation in principal and declaration that would withstand the test of timeâŚif adhered to. AND it propelled the USA into being the greatest Nation on earth! They warned their decedents of usurpation and that we had a duty to protect the Republic from the âINEVIDABLEâ usurpations to come.
SoâŚhere I am today attempting to write about racism and my white heritage. Anyone can twist my words and use the New Word definition of Racist. Racist today is any white guy talking about any other race or attempting to be prideful of his heritage or of being an true Constitutionally defined American.
I am not a racist or a bigot. I am color blind. But I am not blind! I see through all this reverse racism for socialistic take over by minorities and by our governments appalling blatant manipulations of racism.
This has to stop. Everyone has a right to be who and what they are and not be ashamed or coursed into feeling a guilt over anything that they did not have âpersonal controlâ over.
History is thatâŚhistory. It is time to move onâŚIMHO HLC.
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Jddoye 08/11/2010 9:00:00 PM
Simple...illegal is illegal, no matter what color you are or what country you come from - it just happens that Arizona is the easy way to free hand outs that some how end up in the hands of illegal Mexicans. I am paying your freaking bill, food stamps, health care, your babies that you pop out every year, schooling and there is no end to it. We must seem like a joke, come to America and they will give you money for nothing! And YOU have the nerve to protest in our streets for rights! You ungrateful piece of dog poop. Arizona is the Wild West, and only if it was really the Wild West of the 1800's, maybe bounties on you heads would be enough to keep you out till you got it in your thick heads to come into our country legally.
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Skewger 08/11/2010 8:59:00 PM
The illegals are itchn to have what we have but won't get it until they scratch like we did. Their opportunity is to rebel and fix their government.
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33jov 08/11/2010 7:57:00 PM
Hate is the king of this country. we are always looking excuses to express our hate for the other people. We said they are taking our jobs.However none of us are willing to work extremely hard for a low wage. They are draining our benefits,They don't pay taxes. The big corporation rarely pay taxes,they use the capital that we deposti in the bank to get more capital.Easy??? If the banks fail,it ok the let them barrow more capital,If the the economy is bad,,,that happens because immigrants don't pay taxes and they always take benefits from our goberment...Easy to blame the one that can't fight back,even when the most of them are innomcents. In this country is happening the same that in latin american countries. The rich becomes riches, the middle class dissapear and the poor becomes poorer.
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Miguel G. 08/11/2010 7:12:00 PM
I am a born in the USA citizen, a veteran and I love my country and have had to show
some kind of ID in just about everything I have done in my life and I am proud to do so
because I am proud of our country. I carry a reduced size copy of my birth certificate
and my DD214 from my military service and am proud to show any of the documents
I would be asked to show by some law official or an official from any organization I wished
to become a member of that required some sort of proof that I am eligible or I am who
I say I am. As important as it is for our law enforcement personnel to verify a persons
legal status here, it is equally important that their true identity be shown and run through
law enforcement's computer system to verify whether they are wanted for any criminal
activity either here or in the country they came from. Many of these illegals are also
wanted for criminal activity in the countries they came from. I do believe that our
border countries do exchange background information with each other to see if the
individual involved has a criminal record or is wanted for criminal activity.
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Miguel G. 08/11/2010 6:54:00 PM
I agree 100%. The ones who came in here illegally to get a free ride on everything
from having our taxpayers pay for their babies which they keep making and costing
us a fortune. Somehow these illegals got the idea that there is strength in numbers.
So they keep making babies. Most of them are not married and that is another
issue so the mothers can get welfare, food stamps, wick and anything else they can
get for free. It is obvious that Mexico does not want them back either supported by
the fact that they want to charge them so damn much money to come back into the
country there. I have noticed in my neighborhood that the illegals will steal anything
that is not locked up or tied down. I had 4 breakins in my house just before I started
occupying it because I had a roofer working on house. They have no respect for other
peoples property and they don't care who they steal from. They will steal from other
Mexicans as well. Many of them have false identity ID's and other papers including
stolen social security cards. Let us not forget the fraudulent marriages they get in
an effort to not get deported. Our goverenment is to blame for this mess which they
should have resolved years ago but did nothing. As far as I am concerned, when our
troops get pulled out of Iraq and also Afghanistan, they should be deployed on our
border with Mexico with however many it takes to make sure no more illegals come
into our country. My ancesters came into this country through Ellis Island legally
and some of them that were able to fought and died for our country during all the
wars we have been involved in. I didn't have to serve in the military but I did and would
do it again if necessary. As many signs have said FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
I think that Obama should initiate some legislation that if the illegal males and females
that are physically able to, should be allowed to serve in our military at least one
enlistment and then after a honorable discharge be given a chance to become citizens
of the USA. If they do serve in the military and get killed in action, their spouses and
children should be given the opportunity to get legal status in the USA. That is their
legal spouses and not somebody they shacked up with and made many babies with.
It amazes me how many pregnant Mexican women one sees in the stores that never
have a wedding band on and have a bunch of screaming kids with them in the store.
I know that most of these people supposedly believe in the teachings of the Catholic
church but totally ignore the teachings about marriage before having children.
I guess having illegitimate children doesn't mean anything anymore and that applies
to EVERYONE in our country who continue to have kids out of wedlock and the
fathers do not support the children they father as well. I doubt we will see any changes
to all of this in my lifetime. We can always hope though.
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Txpetals 08/11/2010 5:06:00 PM
I can't speak Spanish but I blame myself,you need to speak to the C.E.Os/owners of these companies.
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TXPetals 08/11/2010 4:35:00 PM
Wow someone is right about the 2%
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TXpetals 08/11/2010 4:31:00 PM
Well, I finally fit in here in Arizona!
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Martin Bustamante 08/11/2010 4:14:00 PM
I can't help but wonder how so many of you people can smuggle your selves into my country and throw your weight around when you have absolutely no ground to stand on. Really??? Who the hell do you think you are. You run away from a country that wants nothing to do with you, who disregards you for a second class rodents, and doesn't bat an eye for the dead left on your "trail of tears" exportation to a place who likewise wants no one who can't run off their own steam. You may have a great number of bleeding heart whites with an agenda to recreate, or overthrow America by way of some B.S. revolution fooled, but you are not fooling me. I know for a fact that people of your ilk have a great tendency to pull the race angle when you have run out of excuses. Here's a simple fact..... what you perceive to by a racial bias is actually social or economical bias. Meaning, the idea that we live in a equal opportunity society is false. I have tried to get a job in some fields only to be sent away because I don't speak Spanish. I could go on.and on but I know this falls on deaf, simple ears. Well freeloaders, I've got to go. I work for a living.
P.S. I am not white or racist, and have an ethnic surname.
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sk1951 08/11/2010 5:24:00 AM
Did not say all. I was infering the whites that created the USA. But yes...most all are light skinned. And I have traveled europe...not that great over there. So what is your point as you seem to be stuck on skin color.
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Majkumajku 08/11/2010 12:42:00 AM
and scroll up a bit to pissedoffwhitey's comment.this is not a horrible comment?you want to defend people like this?if so,you have no right to call anyone ignorant.
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Majkumajku 08/11/2010 12:36:00 AM
and how many have been prosecuted?maybe a small handfull.my research is just fine.and ignorant?i hardly think so.i know when they passed this law,i am a native of phoenix.and my political knowledge is probably beyond that of most,being a poly-sci major for four years.i have traveled the world extensively and became aquainted with peoples of many different cultures,religions and ethnicities.i have seen other countries with immigration problems,and laws like 1070 have failed in these places,like it will here,causing them to seek comprehensive immigration reform in a logical ,and not so devisive manner.look at germany in the 1980s.people were becoming violent toward turks wether they were refugees,legal immigrants or undocumented.it boiled down to their parliament changing how they dealt with illegals and combatting xenophobia.so you should really be wary of calling someone ignorant when you know nothing of them or their knowledge and experience.
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Majkumajku 08/11/2010 12:16:00 AM
all europeans are white?let's see...spanish,romanian,italians,epecially southern sicilians,which is anotherpiece of my heritage,turks,a good portion of people from the balkans,and people of the western and southern caucas mountain,yes caucasians.the majority of caucasians are not white.check your geography,read about the moorish conquests into southern and central europe and rethink that statement.education as well as traveling outside of your own country will free your mind and soul.
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TXpetals 08/10/2010 11:38:00 PM
Or I can stay in TEXAS because my other Grandparents are NATIVE AMERICANS!
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Petalsalvarez 08/10/2010 11:34:00 PM
I'll go back to TEXAS after I make back the money I spent to relocate here and I can stop waking up from a nightmare that never ends.I will one day go back to my Grandparents home land,SPAIN!
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Petalsalvarez 08/10/2010 11:25:00 PM
"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing causes rebellion"Frederick Douglass
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Petalsalvarez 08/10/2010 11:19:00 PM
I know,lets ask the native AMERICANS about FREEDOM!!!Long live GERONIMO!
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Moesepp1 08/10/2010 8:40:00 PM
Check the history of Mexico. The countries of Spain and France had Mexico as a colony. The United States never did colonize Mexico. When the United States paid for the Louisiana Purchase, France excluded Mexico. The United States was defrauded all of Mexico by France. But, my point was that IF YOU don't like it in the USA, then YOU can move to wherever you want to. Also take any loser countries flags with you too, please.
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WhtePride1975 08/10/2010 8:33:00 PM
i believe everyone that is a citizen of this country ( not an illegal alien born baby) which should not make you a US citizen has the freedom of speech. I do not agree that the USA in certain areas of the country post signs everywhere in Spanish. You don't see American or French signs posted in Russia. I am really tired of seeing it all over my state, which 4 generations of my families have been. I am very upset with all the whining going around by the so called Mexican- Americans. If your here legally than shut the f-up and quit fighting for those who have no legal right to be hear. If it was up to me, i say give everyone here illegally a free ride home and if there family here doesn't like it they can go too. Freedom isn't free go invade France or Russia or China, see what happens when your caught there illegally. I am done what the F-*& have you done lately.
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Bhsilver85 08/10/2010 8:31:00 PM
quite frankly Im pretty sure I'd feel threatened if someone was in my home and I did not invite them in. shoot first ask later
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08/10/2010 1:52:00 PM
ok Dreamer441984, true or false, when people say illegal immigrants, 98% percent of the white folk automatically think Hispanics. The other 2% are the smart ones
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Mmorse7739 08/10/2010 10:26:00 AM
They may not have been hispanic but that is a useless statement. They were all middle eastern. The illegal aliens in arizona and in the country are predominantly of hispanic heritage. To say that SB 1070 must be stopped in it's entirety because of the racial profiling that will occur is to demand that we ignore the afore mentioned fact. It is a fact. There is nothing that we can do about that. It is unfortunate that many legal immigrants and citizens share common traits and heritage with this group of criminals but there is nothing the government can do to change that and the problem must still be dealt with. Asking that people carry some form of proof of citizenship is not unreasonable. I would like to see the drivers license and state IDs become proof of citizenship. I would like to see citizens be required to prove their citizenship in order to aquire one of these IDs. We are required to carry them to drive anyway, it would not be a major inconvenience. We can even deal with the issue of racial profiling by requiring that everyone be required to present their drivers license when pulled over by an officer. Oh, wait, that is already the law. Honestly. I do not understand why this is such an issue.This is an easy fix that does not cost a great deal of money.
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Melwn34171 08/10/2010 9:59:00 AM
false statement, none of the 911 terrorist were illigal immigrants nor were hispanic. they had students visas and they were from midle east.
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08/10/2010 2:20:00 AM
9/11 was an inside job u still belive dat bullshit dey tell u
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Taosmutt 08/10/2010 1:07:00 AM
Lets not get stupid
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08/09/2010 8:08:00 PM
Illegal is not a race. La Raza and the reconquest movement are as racist as you can get. Europeans were white...that is just the way it is. White people invented America and her documents that propelled us to be the greatest nation on earth. Now racist minority's seek to destroy her. This is terrorist ploy. This is war that the La Raza started. There are countless immigrants in America...and they were openly accepted by white people and even now over half the white population attempts to help IA by usurping the 14th amendment. You speak of your rights. We also have rights. Rights to see our laws upheld to protect the sovereignty of our Nation. If America is destroyed...as you are hoping...then no one will have anything and you will no longer have a nation to use and abuse. Illegal is not a race...it is a foreign invasion. Mexico was not even won in battle. It was bought and paid for with cash. YOUR PEOPLE SOLD YOU OUT...
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 7:55:00 PM
Wow F-Joe, racism is running high in that comment. Go ahead look up the definition. I also have family members who used the legal means to enter this country, and it's disgraceful that our government and our citizens attempt to justify the wrongfullness of those coming here illegally, while still forcing them to send in paperwork to continue the process of becoming legal permanently.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 7:51:00 PM
They're our citizens to care for. Not those of another nation. Just because we have those of our own that do it does not make it ok for people of another nation to enter and do the same. So what murderers from all country can come here and kill, and drain tax dollars by sitting in jails because our own do it in far greater numbers? You can't excuse one problem by comparing it to another. And Arizona passed a law in 2008 going after those employers you fool. Do some research. They have been enforcing it, and went after one of the major staples of the state in it's first order of business, Waterworld Safari. Ignorance must be bliss for you Majkumajku.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 7:47:00 PM
You're implying it. Five of the 9/11 terrorists were here illegally. While some people are making it about skin color, in the end it is not. It's about legal. And there are people of all races here legally, and illegally.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 7:41:00 PM
Wrong. Arizona has a problem with the amount of illegal immigrants with in it's state. The FACT that most of those are hispanic, is just that, a FACT. Which you stated with out provocation. You don't get to call someone a racist because they address an issue, and at the root of that issue is primarily one type of persons. So we Arizona isn't allowed to address immigration issues because that automatically makes them racist? It's still an issue. And when you get to the source of the problem, there are still people breaking a Federal Law, and not being punished. So Arizona is stepping up. Illegal immigration is a problem nation wide, the fact that five of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal proves that. They came to the nation legally, and stayed beyond their visa's illegally. Our government doesn't bother trying to track those people that are breaking the law either, which is an issue.
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Cbrandt55 08/09/2010 7:20:00 PM
Coming to Arizona illegally makes you a law breaker (criminal) even if it is just for work. At least get a legal green card and you are then welcome here. It is as simple as that.
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Grandtraders 08/09/2010 7:20:00 PM
LETS SEE MOESEPP1, WE WERE INVADED BY UNITED STATES ,IN 1846 MY FAMILY HAS BEEN AMERICANS SINCE THEN ,TOOK PART IN ALL THE WARS,WE SPEAK SPANISH WHERE DO WE GO.A NEW MEXICAN.
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Madridlaura19 08/09/2010 5:43:00 PM
That is true, those terrorist were from other parts of the world that came into the US legally and non of those were Mexican. The SB1070 is not towards all "illegal aliens" as you call them, it is towards Mexicans. How many other race have they targeted. How many Asians, Middle Eastern, Canadians, or Europeans have been picked up here in AZ? We have people from all over the world legal and undocumented. So please let's speak clear, it's a racial issue. Ones race does not make a person a criminal, actions do. The fact that most people come here to find work and to built a better life for thier families is not a crime, they just want an opportunity as you and your family did. All races have good and evil people, even your race.
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Moesepp1 08/09/2010 2:22:00 PM
If you don't like it in the USA, then move back to wherever you came from and take that silly loser flag with you as you leave. Please.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 2:14:00 AM
5 of the 9/11 attackers were illegal immigrants. This issue is about more than helping some, it's about keeping all here safe as well.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 2:11:00 AM
5 of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal immigrants. So since you want these open borders to allow such immigration, could you please go tell that to some of the surviving family members of that attack? The world we live in today requires that we know who moves among us because many nations feel we've been in power too long and abused it, or a million other reasons. I'm not trying to argue if this is right or wrong, simply that there are people that wish to do us harm and we're sheep if we choose to allow it. Not to mention there are many other issues that follow with such mass illegal immigration. Every nation was founded on illegal immigration by such standards, and every nation now has and enforces immigration laws.
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Dreamer441984 08/09/2010 2:06:00 AM
Would just like to point out that I'm completely for SB 1070. I do understand the room for racial profiling however I have hope that once the illegal's numbers have dwindled, all persons can roam free with out any form of discrimination or question of their legality. And for those who simply state that people in support of SB 1070 are racist, I say to you that 5 of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal aliens. Still think immigration isn't and hasn't been a problem? Especially outside of Arizona and of all race?
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sk1951 08/08/2010 8:33:00 PM
Racism bigotry race war supremacy ideology hate monger generic labeling⌠These are the tools being used today to help destroy America and demonize our American culture. Minorityâs can use labeling and slander but those of the Caucasian race cannot. If you call a black man the N wordâŚitâs OkâŚIF YOUR BLACK! But if a white man does itâŚyouâre on the lame stream front page.
I am sick of all this reverse racist PC bigotry being aimed at me, my country, my roots and my heritage. All our American heritage is being destroyed because the founding fathers were white men? White men that loved freedom and liberty so much that the numbers that died for it cannot be calculated. Now they are being victimized? Their good deeds and hard fought work slandered! And for whatâŚtheir color or lack of?
This race issue has to come out of the closet before we can legitimately do anything to gain control of our country again. Anything other than a rampage toward socialism is instantly stigmatized with âracistâ or âwhite manâ bigotry. If not so serious this would be a laughable joke! White society is being guilt tripped into giving up their country and their heritage.
What are the facts of pride and heritage?:
1. Who and what you are is your heritageâŚand you will naturally lean and conform toward that side of yourself. It is normal and natural. And you will want a better life for you and yours within your race or heritage. This is just normal human nature. Political minorities canât help but side with their own.
2. Where did American heritage come from? Europeans. White guys. Is there right or wrong here? No! Any group could have joined together and created the United States. But the reality is that Europeans did it. Should white people be happy or sad about this fact of life?
So the fact is that this country was founded on principals never seen before or sense. The men combined common knowledge and Godly wisdom with a desire to be truly free in a Republic. They worked to lay down a foundation in principal and declaration that would withstand the test of timeâŚif adhered to. AND it propelled the USA into being the greatest Nation on earth! They warned their decedents of usurpation and that we had a duty to protect the Republic from the âINEVIDABLEâ usurpations to come.
SoâŚhere I am today attempting to write about racism and my white heritage. Anyone can twist my words and use the New Word definition of Racist. Racist today is any white guy talking about any other race or attempting to be prideful of his heritage or of being an true Constitutionally defined American.
I am not a racist or a bigot. I am color blind. But I am not blind! I see through all this reverse racism for socialistic take over by minorities and by our governments appalling blatant manipulations of racism.
This has to stop. Everyone has a right to be who and what they are and not be ashamed or coursed into feeling a guilt over anything that they did not have âpersonal controlâ over.
History is thatâŚhistory. It is time to move onâŚIMHO HLC.
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Me 08/08/2010 5:18:00 PM
@ mi hermano en la lucha -
It is a failure of identity politics. There are those who oppose racism, and then there are those who simply oppose their own group being a victim of racism. When those in the latter category begin to feel a little more enfranchised, they are done rocking the boat.
To put it a little differently, there are those who struggle only because they want a bigger slice of the pie; they are only about them and theirs, and they are easily bought off. They don't do a lot to bring productive change. There are others of us who want everyone to have a fair share, and of a much better pie. We cannot be bought off, and we will not give up.
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OZ 08/08/2010 4:06:00 PM
Quite frankly, calling supporters of the Good Sheriff and strong Governor fools shows your lack of knowledge and cander. Look up the 11th ammendment and read it good. The law that is Federal is only being enforced locally. Quite honostly if one were to illegally move south of the border and were caught, they would do HARD time in a Mexican prison for a long stay and we all have heard the horror stories about that. Before you cast your political views and start branding people as fools, read the law, SB1070 and the INA (immigration naturalization act). Then base what you consider facts because as of now you are only spewing false statements.
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 3:05:00 PM
again,i did not use the word racist.and stop stalking me!ha ha
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 3:01:00 PM
how about all the uninsured citizens who do the same thing.they far outnumber illegals going to the e.r. for medical help and then not paying their bills.and why does no one want to go after the employers who hire illegals to exploit them for cheap labour instead of hiring citizens who need a job?
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 2:54:00 PM
ok,for the last time,i am irish,not spanish,or mexican.IRISH.and you are looking at records from the english.the celts,vikings,the dutch,and the spaniards were her long before the english.and i am an avid geneologist when it comes to my family,i know when we left ireland,when we landed here,and what we have done for this country since then.
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 2:49:00 PM
never did the word racist appear on my statement.and i mentioned brown skin because all of this animosity is aimed at mexicans,not canadians,germans or chinese.look through all of these statements and maybe you will see what i mean.and one more time,i am irish,not mexican.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:57:00 AM
No, an individual state's efforts have been obviously must be aimed one direction because proportionally most illegals are Mexican and anyone can see that fact. That doesn't make it a racist law or change the fact that there are so many illegals in Arizona. It just provides people like you the opportunity to call anyone wanting laws already in place within our federal government upheld, and so they're taking action at a state level, a racist.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:54:00 AM
If you can get my leave of absense approved with my active duty military job then yes I will be available on my dime, to assist these people back to someone who can help them back in wherever they are from. So that they may begin to lead a legal life to the best of their abilities. Fear of the task shouldn't deter you from work.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:52:00 AM
Who said brown and speaks spanish first Majkumajku. Read backward and check. Oh yeah it was you. Stop turning this all into race.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:50:00 AM
Did you realize that it's racism in itself to assume that the opinion of one person also gives them a race? You're foolish HAHA. And part of the problem. You're unwilling to listen to real facts because you're hiding under the umbrella of racism.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:48:00 AM
What about the border patrol persons who lose their lives to coyotes? What about the scandal just revealed in Colorado that in 2008 system barriers to block illegals from receiving unemployment benefits were intentionally removed under the orders or higher elected officials, and the persons who physically removed those barriers were aware what they were doing was wrong? What about the fact that when an illegal works for cheap labor, and gets no health care, and has an accident or illness, they go and receive free health care? Indeed, check some facts Majkumajku. And yes, this is an attempt to secure all borders, even those you claim are an issue along the Canadian border. Point blank or government is failing on this issue. Not just one or two Presidents.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:44:00 AM
Then don't explain yourself half ...... and expect us to understand. And don't assume things YOU don't know by calling someone a racist when they've not said the word "Mexican" or "brown skinned" anywhere in their mission to stop ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:42:00 AM
No it includes any illegals. Stop calling everyone a racist in order to avoid an issue. This person said nothing about skin color, you did. And it was all for the purpose to call them racist.
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:38:00 AM
And now this country survives on it's laws. We have processes. We don't get to pick and choose which laws to follow, so how is it that other people can? The country was also founded on slave labor, and the option to beat your wife, and no women's rights. Shall we return to that as well? Or not prosecute a person for spousal abuse because of this?
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Dreamer441984 08/08/2010 11:36:00 AM
Right. Have you seen the protesters in front of the state capitol burning that burnt the Arizona state flag and the American Flag? Racism is attributing some trait to a particular persons because of race. So saying that only the while people are being racist is ignorant. We recently conduct Equal Opportunity class on Racism at my work, and a Hispanic (not Mexican) man I had discussed immigration with learned that two other Hispanic (Mexican) men from Texas shared the same view point as me on immigration. That it's fine as long as it's legal. We don't get to pick which laws we follow and which we don't. Making money is hard, but I bet you wouldn't let me rob a bank.
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 2:05:00 AM
they are american,just not from the U.S.remember that continet to the south?what was it called again?ummm,oh yeah South America.america is a continental demonym,not a country.
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 2:00:00 AM
the reason why people have been citing this as racist,for the most part,is because it is all aimed at "mexicans".i agree that something needs to be done,but again,you can blame the republicans for blocking any and all attempts to do anything rational to solve this problem.even when little G.W. tried to pass immigration reform.at least Obama is stepping up with the power of executive order to beef up not only the border patrol,but is sending more Gaurd troops to the border with Mexico.but there is also a need at the border with Canada.so adain,call your local and state representatives and tell them you want the partisan b.s. to stop,or they will lose their job.i rhink that is a better approach than bickering senselessly on a newspaper website.
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Majkumajku 08/08/2010 1:47:00 AM
so it's ok for you to break the law but not for others?and by the way,just because somebody is brown and speaks spanish does not mean that they are mexican.there is a whole continent of countries whose language is spanish.with the exception of brazil,whose language is portuguese.
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sk1951 08/07/2010 7:37:00 PM
There is no racism with Americans. They supported all immigration. Real "stats" need to be learned by all. Here is a good begining.
Aztlan Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgz6ZCqhtg
Immigration Gumballs
I wait for your assesment of these videos. Thank You
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cyclops 08/07/2010 6:47:00 PM
has anyone noticed the tactics of the actual bigots. Calling Hispanics racist when our Anglo Saxon brothers and sisters are the ones who not only speak but take actions of actual racism. if anybody lived outside of the state of Arizona, one would realize that all these politicians are a bunch of fascists A-holes clinging to dear life to maintain the power of their agendas. this state is regressive I understand that something needs to be done about the immigration laws of this country, i understand that drug runners do exist. I also understand the power of the lobbyist, the power of greed, the power of neo Nazis and their fundamental strategy. let the lesser value(economically) people fight for their rights, while the ones on top of the pyramid fight for their positions. and we'll be in the back door making a great profit on the tears, fears, and despair of all. WAKE UP!! we need new leaders! on a good note 10 yrs from now in ASU and UofA they will be studying this era in humanities and civil rights and it's going to make some great debates. just keep on smiling this to shall pass :)
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Biggs_wedge2 08/07/2010 5:17:00 AM
Walking out of SAT prep classes to to protest racism?
How about walking out of school. Walking out of my English class. Walking out on the very thing they were fighting for.
...and protesting? A few of the hundreds that left our high school made it to the actual protest. The rest, they went to Mcdonald's.
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08/07/2010 4:55:00 AM
I am Jewish. What of it?
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08/07/2010 4:51:00 AM
You could not have come here in 1556 as the British colonies only started in 1607 at Jamestown, Virginia? The Spanish did come to the area what was once known as New Spain prior to 1607, but that was another country. So you must be confused as to what country is what. We are in the United States and our country started in 1607 with the earliest settlement, and our nation claimed independence from England in 1776.
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08/07/2010 4:44:00 AM
In Jesus name..see Romans 13:1-7. What does that scripture say? Paraise the lord. Amen.
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08/07/2010 4:39:00 AM
Freak!
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08/07/2010 4:37:00 AM
Did you ask the Mexican government for assistance? Can you tell me what the Mexican governmentis doing to helps its people find jobs?
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08/07/2010 4:35:00 AM
Really? Illegal immigration? What are you talking about?
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oscar 08/07/2010 4:22:00 AM
Messicans go home to the country that you have already distroyed.
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JuiceDeGrandel 08/07/2010 3:16:00 AM
Good people out-number the bad.
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JuiceDeGrandel 08/07/2010 3:14:00 AM
Ignorance is bliss....
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Juicedegrandel 08/07/2010 3:11:00 AM
This country was founded on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!! That's the truth....Deal with it. Close-minded people destroy civilizations. Supporters of any hate, and having no compassion, will have to answer to god (pc;all gods). Peace & Love.
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Nwsmith61 08/07/2010 1:07:00 AM
Who ever this Venando21 is he is full of crap. I'm guessing he learned words like perplexed while what was it washing cars or cleaning houses. I dont care who you are or where your from if you come here legally we are glad to have you. If you illegal you need to be deported. We have the right to know who enters are country just like Mexico, Canada, Iran, or Iraq should have the right to know whos in there country. By the way, try to go to one of those countrys illegally and see what happens.
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Offthemenu3 08/07/2010 12:01:00 AM
then Why do you want to be an American if you feel we are such bad people?
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Offthemenu3 08/06/2010 11:54:00 PM
It's all too apparent that you are a raciest yourself. The way you call types of people by ugly remarks makes you sound that way. Nice. and you wonder why other people dislike you so much.......and every time you open your mouth and trash falls out just makes it that much worse
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Prosb1070 08/06/2010 10:09:00 PM
What you libtards need to understand is that being illegal has nothing to do with race. If a black man murders someone do you call the police racist because the arrest him? NO YOU DONT! Its the crime that we 'grunt' about, not the color or creed. Your logic is flawed to its very core and you should just stick being a meathead in private, no need to broadcast your stupidity for all to see.
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CD 08/06/2010 6:49:00 PM
"Here's a new one: Did you know that fully 100 percent of supporters of Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Governor Jan Brewer are fools?" I can understand your feelings to a point... however this statement upset me. Safe Borders are one of these things. Supporters of the Sheriff, or our Governer may be fools, but if you think you can do a better job, perhaps you should run for office. I feel that the state of AZ is paying for many things that are not needed, that the "federal government" should by law provide the state. But alas, this is not the situation... perhaps if there were other officials in office this would not be the case... if your beliefs are strong on this, then put up or shut up!
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Majkumajku 08/06/2010 3:59:00 PM
again,i'm irish,not mexican.and if you look at real statistics,single whlte females are the largest percentage of people on welfare.most states have already banned illegals from receiving welfare.here is a site for you...takeourjobs.org...for all of those glamorous jobs the illegals are taking away from citizens.and by the way,our economy was flushed by g.w. and his cut taxes spend more money philosophy,and the war in iraq.not to mention his dumping of government oversight of the financial system.oh yeah,and more arabs cross the border with canada than come through mexico.
xenophobia is rampant,as it was in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
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Majkumajku 08/06/2010 3:33:00 PM
actually they were from ireland.don't assume things about which you do not know.
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Dreamer44 08/06/2010 12:29:00 PM
I hold no hate over a person wanting to do better for their family. But there is a legal way. Perhaps the answer should involve more work visas, and not for the people that already have money as you've said. And while I'm sympathetic to having a child and having to leave them/be separated for money (dual military family and my husband has been gone for more of my sons life than here) laws still must be upheld. I truly hope that this law starts other factors moving as well, however there is a lot of crime that occurs as a result of illegal immigration that must be adjusted. And the mexican workers here deserve more than to just do the bottom work so that Americans can have better lives. They deserve to now use their improved situation to become legal, and apply to be a manager, or whatever else they wish. So that they may either return home to see their families or apply to have them move here. I'm glad you seem to have no hate in this situation. I don't either. However we both see that there is an issue, just from different angles. Thank you for your story.
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Venado21 08/06/2010 9:50:00 AM
Pain Over Happiness
Painful moments are easy to recapture. Bringing our children into the world is a wonderful thing, but not if we don't have them with us. Leaving my family behind to earn extra money wasnât easy. I chose to leave them behind to give them a better life. I also left behind my happiness.
âDaddy, daddy, daddy, Iâm hungry,â my son stated not knowing that I didnât have any kind of food to feed him. With tears in my eyes and hope in my heart that one day I was going to be able to feed him properly, I replied to him, âSon, it will go away if you go to sleep because the angels will come when you are sleeping and feed you while you sleep.â He replied, âDaddy, I want them to bring me some toys and candies too!â He looked at me with a smile, and started to climb into the bed, and went to sleep like an angel not knowing that he was going to be hungry the next morning. He got up in the morning and looked at me with a sad face and a hungry look. With bed marks on his cheeks, and his hair was soft as silk. He rubbed his eyes and yelled, âHey!â I asked him, âAre you hungry, my babyâ. He moved his head up and down, but there was nothing to feed him. Sometimes there was only some bread and water to feed him in the morning but nothing for the rest of that day.
My child was not a mistake and I wasnât going to get rid of him. The stories of people giving their kids up for adoption didn't make me change my mind. Some people might think that if I was not ready to have a kid, I shouldnât have had one. He is my soul and my reason of living. Children come to the world not mistakenly but because God sends them. I donât believe I shouldnât have him; I believe that I have to do anything and everything for him.
I knew that if I left to the U.S.A to work for them, I wouldnât see my baby boy grow up. If I left my wife behind, I would probably lose her for being away for too long. I still, chose pain over happiness. It was very painful for me to leave my baby boy and my lovely wife behind. I felt perplexed; I didn't know what to do; my world was devastated. Even though I was suffering from the inside, I had to show that I was happy on the outside. People saw me laughing and playing, but my heart was in agony. My wife and son are worth my pain and suffering, so I picked pain for me and happiness for them.
Time has passed quickly, and now he has grown up. I missed his childhood. I wish I could reverse time to be with him, and see him growing, walking, learning his first words, calling me âdaddyâ for the first time. I tell him every time I talk to him over the phone âI miss you, my beautiful baby boy.â âYou have grown up now, and I donât know what you look like.â In addition, my wife is lonely and waiting for me to come back home. Life is hard in the U.S.A too. Besides being chase by a sheriff and being attack by the âladyâ. Having to pay rent and utilities doesnât allow me to save much money. I donât know for sure when I will go back, but I hope and pray it is soon. We are far away in distance, yet we are close together in our minds and hearts. Wont you want to cross that 130 degrees high desert for your love ones wont you risk your life liberty and anything for your family. I would 1000 times
Being illegal immigrant is not easy specially if you poor. There is not visa for poor people. Visas are only issued to people that have money. Illegal immigrants come here to work and make some money. They take jobs that are not suitable for American people, so they can have a better job. They wash dishes so an American can be a manager. They do construction so an American is the engineer. They clean rooms so American can run the office. They wash your car so an American can be the boss. They clean houses so American is less stress after work. They take care of your kids so American get a better career, so there is advantages of being illegal people in the here.
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Liberalfrog 08/06/2010 4:48:00 AM
Something in Spanish telling them they are stupid .Regarding One of the things you learn from years of dealing with drug people, is that you can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug. Especially when it's waving a razor-sharp hunting knife in your eye. Joe Arpiao .One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. Its a wonderful Circus, the whole world would be doing (Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals? ) hating beaners , if the Nazis had won the war. This would be the Sixth Reich.Look, there's two women fucking a polar bear! A person can learn to cope with things like seeing their dead grandmother crawling up their leg with a knife in her teeth.Step right up ! , and shoot the pasties off the nipples of a ten foot bull dyke! Win a cotton candy goat!
Ignore this terrible drug. Yeah. Pretend it's not happening. My knuckles are white from inner tension and my pants are crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a really nice lady .
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Andrewthomas 08/06/2010 4:29:00 AM
I love Go-Go Boots ,One step at a time and don't overwhelm yourself. Cross shit off the list when done and don't give it another thought.
Moving some stuff this weekend.
Looks like I have work next week. Talk about money issues.
Jeep ran great on our trip. Looks like all the engine work paid off.
Skid plate did its job judging from the scrapes and bruises.
Ended up doing a little one wheeling coming off the rock in the photo.
Everyone here is fine. Including the rats. Sylvia had her teeth trimmed. Seems two bottom incisors are a bit crocked and one grew into her upper mouth and caused an abscess. Giving her bones to chew on. Rat teeth can grow 5 inches per year.
Humans are frail in comparison.
Sorry to hear about you losing your rat. Any prospects for future rat contributers?
Gots bunch of work to do on Spencer's jeep before he goes back.
Can one become Amish like becoming a naturalized citizen? Thinking about a horse and no taxes. Think the mexicans have it made breaking the law .
Hang tuff
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Rcjj00 08/06/2010 12:46:00 AM
serious, so your spanish (from Spain) ancesors have been here since 1556 and faught and sacrificed for who?? The immagration bill is not about attacking just Mexicans, even muslim raticals are crossing over the the Mexican border. Stop acting like everyone is after you because of the color of your skin, its about being here illegal no matter who or what your race is.
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Wowusa1 08/06/2010 12:45:00 AM
I dont need no stinking law book! I will leave only one story to tell the cops.....
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Wowusa1 08/06/2010 12:37:00 AM
How about I mail you some of my hard earned money before it all goes to pay for anchor babies and welfare for your compadres. Take a look around amigo, what we have is being flushed down the banos. Maybe you would like to see more of your homeland here but not me!!!
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Majkumajku 08/06/2010 12:19:00 AM
does that include europeans,asians,africans and australians?oh,that's right,just brown,spanish speaking people.and what about refugees?should they leave too because technically they didn't go through a "process" to get here.they were just put on a plane and shipped here without a real choice.
my family came here in 1556,has fought in every war up until viet-nam,and helped to devend mexico as it was known before the mexo-american war(los san patricios).i'm tired of hearing people like you trying to tear apart everything my ancesors fought and sacrificed for.if you want something to change,get off of your ass and contact your republican representative and tell him or her to stop the partisan b.s. and do something about immigration.after all,the republicans have been blocking immigration reform for the last decade.they even voted against a bill that would have given the first responders of 9 11 full support for healthcare,and it was a bill cosponsored by a REPUBLICAN!
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Wowusa1 08/06/2010 12:03:00 AM
Not being a Mexicano, naturally I see this issue from a different direction. If only your side could walk a mile in my shoes you would appreciate and understand the other view. For instance maybe your people should pull the cart while we real Americans ride for free!!! I dont usually get to involved in these kinds of petty squabbles but real Americanos grow weary of this issue day after day. Try doing things the legal way for once and dont jump in front of others who have waited for years do come here legally.Sorry there isnt a bien way to say these things.
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Dreamer441984 08/05/2010 11:30:00 PM
So you're saying that you're willing to fight a police officer for upholding the law, in defense of your friend who broke the law? You have high morals. You know, gang members are willing to fight police officers for the same reason. The officer may have just interested curious. And an officer does have the right to ask a person for identification, especially if it was for no other purpose than to see it.
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Dreamer441984 08/05/2010 11:06:00 PM
Fear of change is not reason for inaction. I for one don't want to live in a nation that won't uphold it's laws because it would be too difficult gpjs_3. Most nations that do so are in fact 3 world nations....because crime and disorder have over run those who choose to be sheep. And yes, a person who hides from enforcing the law because they don't want to have to roll up their sleeves and do a little work, is a sheep.
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Dreamer441984 08/05/2010 10:59:00 PM
If we say anything else we're called racist. And don't assume that we're all old or racist.What's inhumane about wanting laws enforced? Every country in the world has and enforces immigration laws. Many are adapting laws that do not grant citizenship to a baby just because they're born on their soil. Ireland just did so with in the last few years. What coyotes do is inhumane and wrong, they herd people across a border for profit and kill any resistance they encounter. A business that exists due to illegal immigration. Each story has two tales, make sure you're aware of both as well and stop crying "RACIST" for anyone that doesn't sit on your side, because that's an even more boring one liner to me. And FYI I have three immediate family members who used this nations legal means to gain residency, from Mexico and Russia. So trust me I understand all sides in this story.
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Dreamer441984 08/05/2010 10:54:00 PM
Depends on the state HAHA. You're not very bright. And if you're going to say this is an Arizonian paper, that's correct, however some people born and raised in Arizona have left the state due to jobs (military) and still follow what happens because they care.
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Dreamer441984 08/05/2010 10:52:00 PM
That's racist HAHA, don't assume someone's white because they hold an opinion you don't like. Illegal means law breaker, and it holds no race. People of all shapes, sizes, colors, etc break the law and should be held accountable.
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Aceinaz 08/05/2010 10:34:00 PM
wow ozzy somehow im not surprised with your kindergarden defense of "your stupid" again i prove my point.no facts, no knowledge a simple your stupid.. hahaha try educating yourself a little on big people words... until then i'm not impressed.
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Flactfactsarefacts 08/05/2010 10:01:00 PM
That cop perfectly exemplified what is wrong with the U.S. as a whole, and most specifically in regards to the problem of illegal immigration and all the other crimes that spawn from this crime - incompetent officials not doing their jobs.
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Ozzylvr 08/05/2010 9:47:00 PM
I am a latina and born in america and I dont give a damn what country your from, come here legally and obey american laws like I have to do.
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Flatfactsarefacts 08/05/2010 9:44:00 PM
Wow.
Another racist, white hating Mexican... who would have thought?
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Ozzylvr 08/05/2010 9:43:00 PM
Your Awsome!!!!
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Ozzylvr 08/05/2010 9:42:00 PM
Because the mexicans are the majority of the problem, hellooooooo!
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Flatfactsarefacts 08/05/2010 9:42:00 PM
I guess Mexico is really racist then, given that not only does Mexico have WAY HARSHER penalties for illegal immigration, but ACTUALLY ENFORCES them.
So yeah... go ahead and BE racist, why don't you, La Raza?
I expext this comment shall be deleted soon, seeing as La Raza never lets little things such as facts get in the way of their vendettas...
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Ozzylvr 08/05/2010 9:40:00 PM
Your an idiot!!!!!