Ask a Mexican on Facts, Stats, and Go-Go Boots

sk1951

Racism bigotry race war supremacy ideology hate monger generic labeling… These are the tools being used today to help destroy America and demonize our American culture. Minority’s can use labeling and slander but those of the Caucasian race cannot. If you call a black man the N word…it’s Ok…IF YOUR BLACK! But if a white man does it…you’re on the lame stream front page.

I am sick of all this reverse racist PC bigotry being aimed at me, my country, my roots and my heritage. All our American heritage is being destroyed because the founding fathers were white men? White men that loved freedom and liberty so much that the numbers that died for it cannot be calculated. Now they are being victimized? Their good deeds and hard fought work slandered! And for what…their color or lack of?

This race issue has to come out of the closet before we can legitimately do anything to gain control of our country again. Anything other than a rampage toward socialism is instantly stigmatized with ‘racist” or “white man” bigotry. If not so serious this would be a laughable joke! White society is being guilt tripped into giving up their country and their heritage.

What are the facts of pride and heritage?:

1. Who and what you are is your heritage…and you will naturally lean and conform toward that side of yourself. It is normal and natural. And you will want a better life for you and yours within your race or heritage. This is just normal human nature. Political minorities can’t help but side with their own.

2. Where did American heritage come from? Europeans. White guys. Is there right or wrong here? No! Any group could have joined together and created the United States. But the reality is that Europeans did it. Should white people be happy or sad about this fact of life?

So the fact is that this country was founded on principals never seen before or sense. The men combined common knowledge and Godly wisdom with a desire to be truly free in a Republic. They worked to lay down a foundation in principal and declaration that would withstand the test of time…if adhered to. AND it propelled the USA into being the greatest Nation on earth! They warned their decedents of usurpation and that we had a duty to protect the Republic from the “INEVIDABLE” usurpations to come.

So…here I am today attempting to write about racism and my white heritage. Anyone can twist my words and use the New Word definition of Racist. Racist today is any white guy talking about any other race or attempting to be prideful of his heritage or of being an true Constitutionally defined American.

I am not a racist or a bigot. I am color blind. But I am not blind! I see through all this reverse racism for socialistic take over by minorities and by our governments appalling blatant manipulations of racism.

This has to stop. Everyone has a right to be who and what they are and not be ashamed or coursed into feeling a guilt over anything that they did not have “personal control” over.

History is that…history. It is time to move on…IMHO HLC.

Jddoye

Simple...illegal is illegal, no matter what color you are or what country you come from - it just happens that Arizona is the easy way to free hand outs that some how end up in the hands of illegal Mexicans. I am paying your freaking bill, food stamps, health care, your babies that you pop out every year, schooling and there is no end to it. We must seem like a joke, come to America and they will give you money for nothing! And YOU have the nerve to protest in our streets for rights! You ungrateful piece of dog poop. Arizona is the Wild West, and only if it was really the Wild West of the 1800's, maybe bounties on you heads would be enough to keep you out till you got it in your thick heads to come into our country legally.

Disappointment

if illegal is illegal then arest then many American citizens should make the frist move and arrest themself take the first move show the way it takes two and employer and an employee only picking on the worker is racist and you know it.

Skewger

The illegals are itchn to have what we have but won't get it until they scratch like we did. Their opportunity is to rebel and fix their government.

33jov

Hate is the king of this country. we are always looking excuses to express our hate for the other people. We said they are taking our jobs.However none of us are willing to work extremely hard for a low wage. They are draining our benefits,They don't pay taxes. The big corporation rarely pay taxes,they use the capital that we deposti in the bank to get more capital.Easy??? If the banks fail,it ok the let them barrow more capital,If the the economy is bad,,,that happens because immigrants don't pay taxes and they always take benefits from our goberment...Easy to blame the one that can't fight back,even when the most of them are innomcents. In this country is happening the same that in latin american countries. The rich becomes riches, the middle class dissapear and the poor becomes poorer.

Martin Bustamante

I can't help but wonder how so many of you people can smuggle your selves into my country and throw your weight around when you have absolutely no ground to stand on. Really??? Who the hell do you think you are. You run away from a country that wants nothing to do with you, who disregards you for a second class rodents, and doesn't bat an eye for the dead left on your "trail of tears" exportation to a place who likewise wants no one who can't run off their own steam. You may have a great number of bleeding heart whites with an agenda to recreate, or overthrow America by way of some B.S. revolution fooled, but you are not fooling me. I know for a fact that people of your ilk have a great tendency to pull the race angle when you have run out of excuses. Here's a simple fact..... what you perceive to by a racial bias is actually social or economical bias. Meaning, the idea that we live in a equal opportunity society is false. I have tried to get a job in some fields only to be sent away because I don't speak Spanish. I could go on.and on but I know this falls on deaf, simple ears. Well freeloaders, I've got to go. I work for a living.P.S. I am not white or racist, and have an ethnic surname.

Txpetals

I can't speak Spanish but I blame myself,you need to speak to the C.E.Os/owners of these companies.

Petalsalvarez

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing causes rebellion"Frederick Douglass

WhtePride1975

i believe everyone that is a citizen of this country ( not an illegal alien born baby) which should not make you a US citizen has the freedom of speech. I do not agree that the USA in certain areas of the country post signs everywhere in Spanish. You don't see American or French signs posted in Russia. I am really tired of seeing it all over my state, which 4 generations of my families have been. I am very upset with all the whining going around by the so called Mexican- Americans. If your here legally than shut the f-up and quit fighting for those who have no legal right to be hear. If it was up to me, i say give everyone here illegally a free ride home and if there family here doesn't like it they can go too. Freedom isn't free go invade France or Russia or China, see what happens when your caught there illegally. I am done what the F-*& have you done lately.

Miguel G.

I agree 100%. The ones who came in here illegally to get a free ride on everythingfrom having our taxpayers pay for their babies which they keep making and costingus a fortune. Somehow these illegals got the idea that there is strength in numbers.So they keep making babies. Most of them are not married and that is anotherissue so the mothers can get welfare, food stamps, wick and anything else they canget for free. It is obvious that Mexico does not want them back either supported bythe fact that they want to charge them so damn much money to come back into thecountry there. I have noticed in my neighborhood that the illegals will steal anythingthat is not locked up or tied down. I had 4 breakins in my house just before I startedoccupying it because I had a roofer working on house. They have no respect for otherpeoples property and they don't care who they steal from. They will steal from otherMexicans as well. Many of them have false identity ID's and other papers includingstolen social security cards. Let us not forget the fraudulent marriages they get inan effort to not get deported. Our goverenment is to blame for this mess which theyshould have resolved years ago but did nothing. As far as I am concerned, when ourtroops get pulled out of Iraq and also Afghanistan, they should be deployed on ourborder with Mexico with however many it takes to make sure no more illegals comeinto our country. My ancesters came into this country through Ellis Island legallyand some of them that were able to fought and died for our country during all thewars we have been involved in. I didn't have to serve in the military but I did and woulddo it again if necessary. As many signs have said FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.I think that Obama should initiate some legislation that if the illegal males and femalesthat are physically able to, should be allowed to serve in our military at least oneenlistment and then after a honorable discharge be given a chance to become citizensof the USA. If they do serve in the military and get killed in action, their spouses andchildren should be given the opportunity to get legal status in the USA. That is theirlegal spouses and not somebody they shacked up with and made many babies with.It amazes me how many pregnant Mexican women one sees in the stores that neverhave a wedding band on and have a bunch of screaming kids with them in the store.I know that most of these people supposedly believe in the teachings of the Catholicchurch but totally ignore the teachings about marriage before having children.I guess having illegitimate children doesn't mean anything anymore and that appliesto EVERYONE in our country who continue to have kids out of wedlock and thefathers do not support the children they father as well. I doubt we will see any changesto all of this in my lifetime. We can always hope though.

Petalsalvarez

I know,lets ask the native AMERICANS about FREEDOM!!!Long live GERONIMO!

Alex

ok Dreamer441984, true or false, when people say illegal immigrants, 98% percent of the white folk automatically think Hispanics. The other 2% are the smart ones

Grandtraders

LETS SEE MOESEPP1, WE WERE INVADED BY UNITED STATES ,IN 1846 MY FAMILY HAS BEEN AMERICANS SINCE THEN ,TOOK PART IN ALL THE WARS,WE SPEAK SPANISH WHERE DO WE GO.A NEW MEXICAN.

Moesepp1

Check the history of Mexico. The countries of Spain and France had Mexico as a colony. The United States never did colonize Mexico. When the United States paid for the Louisiana Purchase, France excluded Mexico. The United States was defrauded all of Mexico by France. But, my point was that IF YOU don't like it in the USA, then YOU can move to wherever you want to. Also take any loser countries flags with you too, please.

TXPetals

Wow someone is right about the 2%

TXpetals

Or I can stay in TEXAS because my other Grandparents are NATIVE AMERICANS!

Petalsalvarez

I'll go back to TEXAS after I make back the money I spent to relocate here and I can stop waking up from a nightmare that never ends.I will one day go back to my Grandparents home land,SPAIN!

Taosmutt

Lets not get stupid

TXpetals

Well, I finally fit in here in Arizona!

Moesepp1

If you don't like it in the USA, then move back to wherever you came from and take that silly loser flag with you as you leave. Please.

Dreamer441984

Would just like to point out that I'm completely for SB 1070. I do understand the room for racial profiling however I have hope that once the illegal's numbers have dwindled, all persons can roam free with out any form of discrimination or question of their legality. And for those who simply state that people in support of SB 1070 are racist, I say to you that 5 of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal aliens. Still think immigration isn't and hasn't been a problem? Especially outside of Arizona and of all race?

Melwn34171

false statement, none of the 911 terrorist were illigal immigrants nor were hispanic. they had students visas and they were from midle east.

Mmorse7739

They may not have been hispanic but that is a useless statement. They were all middle eastern. The illegal aliens in arizona and in the country are predominantly of hispanic heritage. To say that SB 1070 must be stopped in it's entirety because of the racial profiling that will occur is to demand that we ignore the afore mentioned fact. It is a fact. There is nothing that we can do about that. It is unfortunate that many legal immigrants and citizens share common traits and heritage with this group of criminals but there is nothing the government can do to change that and the problem must still be dealt with. Asking that people carry some form of proof of citizenship is not unreasonable. I would like to see the drivers license and state IDs become proof of citizenship. I would like to see citizens be required to prove their citizenship in order to aquire one of these IDs. We are required to carry them to drive anyway, it would not be a major inconvenience. We can even deal with the issue of racial profiling by requiring that everyone be required to present their drivers license when pulled over by an officer. Oh, wait, that is already the law. Honestly. I do not understand why this is such an issue.This is an easy fix that does not cost a great deal of money.

moises

9/11 was an inside job u still belive dat bullshit dey tell u

Madridlaura19

That is true, those terrorist were from other parts of the world that came into the US legally and non of those were Mexican. The SB1070 is not towards all "illegal aliens" as you call them, it is towards Mexicans. How many other race have they targeted. How many Asians, Middle Eastern, Canadians, or Europeans have been picked up here in AZ? We have people from all over the world legal and undocumented. So please let's speak clear, it's a racial issue. Ones race does not make a person a criminal, actions do. The fact that most people come here to find work and to built a better life for thier families is not a crime, they just want an opportunity as you and your family did. All races have good and evil people, even your race.

Miguel G.

I am a born in the USA citizen, a veteran and I love my country and have had to showsome kind of ID in just about everything I have done in my life and I am proud to do sobecause I am proud of our country. I carry a reduced size copy of my birth certificateand my DD214 from my military service and am proud to show any of the documentsI would be asked to show by some law official or an official from any organization I wishedto become a member of that required some sort of proof that I am eligible or I am whoI say I am. As important as it is for our law enforcement personnel to verify a personslegal status here, it is equally important that their true identity be shown and run throughlaw enforcement's computer system to verify whether they are wanted for any criminalactivity either here or in the country they came from. Many of these illegals are alsowanted for criminal activity in the countries they came from. I do believe that ourborder countries do exchange background information with each other to see if theindividual involved has a criminal record or is wanted for criminal activity.

sk1951

Illegal is not a race. La Raza and the reconquest movement are as racist as you can get. Europeans were white...that is just the way it is. White people invented America and her documents that propelled us to be the greatest nation on earth. Now racist minority's seek to destroy her. This is terrorist ploy. This is war that the La Raza started. There are countless immigrants in America...and they were openly accepted by white people and even now over half the white population attempts to help IA by usurping the 14th amendment. You speak of your rights. We also have rights. Rights to see our laws upheld to protect the sovereignty of our Nation. If America is destroyed...as you are hoping...then no one will have anything and you will no longer have a nation to use and abuse. Illegal is not a race...it is a foreign invasion. Mexico was not even won in battle. It was bought and paid for with cash. YOUR PEOPLE SOLD YOU OUT...

sk1951

Did not say all. I was infering the whites that created the USA. But yes...most all are light skinned. And I have traveled europe...not that great over there. So what is your point as you seem to be stuck on skin color.

Majkumajku

all europeans are white?let's see...spanish,romanian,italians,epecially southern sicilians,which is anotherpiece of my heritage,turks,a good portion of people from the balkans,and people of the western and southern caucas mountain,yes caucasians.the majority of caucasians are not white.check your geography,read about the moorish conquests into southern and central europe and rethink that statement.education as well as traveling outside of your own country will free your mind and soul.

Dreamer441984

Wrong. Arizona has a problem with the amount of illegal immigrants with in it's state. The FACT that most of those are hispanic, is just that, a FACT. Which you stated with out provocation. You don't get to call someone a racist because they address an issue, and at the root of that issue is primarily one type of persons. So we Arizona isn't allowed to address immigration issues because that automatically makes them racist? It's still an issue. And when you get to the source of the problem, there are still people breaking a Federal Law, and not being punished. So Arizona is stepping up. Illegal immigration is a problem nation wide, the fact that five of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal proves that. They came to the nation legally, and stayed beyond their visa's illegally. Our government doesn't bother trying to track those people that are breaking the law either, which is an issue.

Cbrandt55

Coming to Arizona illegally makes you a law breaker (criminal) even if it is just for work. At least get a legal green card and you are then welcome here. It is as simple as that.

sk1951

What are the facts of pride and heritage?:

This has to stop. Everyone has a right to be who and what they are and not be ashamed or coursed into feeling a guilt over anything that they did not have “personal control” over.

History is that…history. It is time to move on…IMHO HLC.

@ mi hermano en la lucha -

It is a failure of identity politics. There are those who oppose racism, and then there are those who simply oppose their own group being a victim of racism. When those in the latter category begin to feel a little more enfranchised, they are done rocking the boat.

To put it a little differently, there are those who struggle only because they want a bigger slice of the pie; they are only about them and theirs, and they are easily bought off. They don't do a lot to bring productive change. There are others of us who want everyone to have a fair share, and of a much better pie. We cannot be bought off, and we will not give up.

Quite frankly, calling supporters of the Good Sheriff and strong Governor fools shows your lack of knowledge and cander. Look up the 11th ammendment and read it good. The law that is Federal is only being enforced locally. Quite honostly if one were to illegally move south of the border and were caught, they would do HARD time in a Mexican prison for a long stay and we all have heard the horror stories about that. Before you cast your political views and start branding people as fools, read the law, SB1070 and the INA (immigration naturalization act). Then base what you consider facts because as of now you are only spewing false statements.

sk1951

There is no racism with Americans. They supported all immigration. Real "stats" need to be learned by all. Here is a good begining.

Aztlan Rising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Immigration Gumballs

I wait for your assesment of these videos. Thank You

cyclops

has anyone noticed the tactics of the actual bigots. Calling Hispanics racist when our Anglo Saxon brothers and sisters are the ones who not only speak but take actions of actual racism. if anybody lived outside of the state of Arizona, one would realize that all these politicians are a bunch of fascists A-holes clinging to dear life to maintain the power of their agendas. this state is regressive I understand that something needs to be done about the immigration laws of this country, i understand that drug runners do exist. I also understand the power of the lobbyist, the power of greed, the power of neo Nazis and their fundamental strategy. let the lesser value(economically) people fight for their rights, while the ones on top of the pyramid fight for their positions. and we'll be in the back door making a great profit on the tears, fears, and despair of all. WAKE UP!! we need new leaders! on a good note 10 yrs from now in ASU and UofA they will be studying this era in humanities and civil rights and it's going to make some great debates. just keep on smiling this to shall pass :)

Dreamer441984

Right. Have you seen the protesters in front of the state capitol burning that burnt the Arizona state flag and the American Flag? Racism is attributing some trait to a particular persons because of race. So saying that only the while people are being racist is ignorant. We recently conduct Equal Opportunity class on Racism at my work, and a Hispanic (not Mexican) man I had discussed immigration with learned that two other Hispanic (Mexican) men from Texas shared the same view point as me on immigration. That it's fine as long as it's legal. We don't get to pick which laws we follow and which we don't. Making money is hard, but I bet you wouldn't let me rob a bank.

Biggs_wedge2

Walking out of SAT prep classes to to protest racism?How about walking out of school. Walking out of my English class. Walking out on the very thing they were fighting for....and protesting? A few of the hundreds that left our high school made it to the actual protest. The rest, they went to Mcdonald's.

oscar

Messicans go home to the country that you have already distroyed.

Juicedegrandel

This country was founded on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!! That's the truth....Deal with it. Close-minded people destroy civilizations. Supporters of any hate, and having no compassion, will have to answer to god (pc;all gods). Peace & Love.

Dreamer441984

5 of the 9/11 terrorists were illegal immigrants. So since you want these open borders to allow such immigration, could you please go tell that to some of the surviving family members of that attack? The world we live in today requires that we know who moves among us because many nations feel we've been in power too long and abused it, or a million other reasons. I'm not trying to argue if this is right or wrong, simply that there are people that wish to do us harm and we're sheep if we choose to allow it. Not to mention there are many other issues that follow with such mass illegal immigration. Every nation was founded on illegal immigration by such standards, and every nation now has and enforces immigration laws.

Dreamer441984

And now this country survives on it's laws. We have processes. We don't get to pick and choose which laws to follow, so how is it that other people can? The country was also founded on slave labor, and the option to beat your wife, and no women's rights. Shall we return to that as well? Or not prosecute a person for spousal abuse because of this?

extremezone

Really? Illegal immigration? What are you talking about?

Offthemenu3

It's all too apparent that you are a raciest yourself. The way you call types of people by ugly remarks makes you sound that way. Nice. and you wonder why other people dislike you so much.......and every time you open your mouth and trash falls out just makes it that much worse

"Here's a new one: Did you know that fully 100 percent of supporters of Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Governor Jan Brewer are fools?" I can understand your feelings to a point... however this statement upset me. Safe Borders are one of these things. Supporters of the Sheriff, or our Governer may be fools, but if you think you can do a better job, perhaps you should run for office. I feel that the state of AZ is paying for many things that are not needed, that the "federal government" should by law provide the state. But alas, this is not the situation... perhaps if there were other officials in office this would not be the case... if your beliefs are strong on this, then put up or shut up!

Venado21

Pain Over Happiness

Painful moments are easy to recapture. Bringing our children into the world is a wonderful thing, but not if we don't have them with us. Leaving my family behind to earn extra money wasn’t easy. I chose to leave them behind to give them a better life. I also left behind my happiness. “Daddy, daddy, daddy, I’m hungry,” my son stated not knowing that I didn’t have any kind of food to feed him. With tears in my eyes and hope in my heart that one day I was going to be able to feed him properly, I replied to him, “Son, it will go away if you go to sleep because the angels will come when you are sleeping and feed you while you sleep.” He replied, “Daddy, I want them to bring me some toys and candies too!” He looked at me with a smile, and started to climb into the bed, and went to sleep like an angel not knowing that he was going to be hungry the next morning. He got up in the morning and looked at me with a sad face and a hungry look. With bed marks on his cheeks, and his hair was soft as silk. He rubbed his eyes and yelled, “Hey!” I asked him, “Are you hungry, my baby”. He moved his head up and down, but there was nothing to feed him. Sometimes there was only some bread and water to feed him in the morning but nothing for the rest of that day. My child was not a mistake and I wasn’t going to get rid of him. The stories of people giving their kids up for adoption didn't make me change my mind. Some people might think that if I was not ready to have a kid, I shouldn’t have had one. He is my soul and my reason of living. Children come to the world not mistakenly but because God sends them. I don’t believe I shouldn’t have him; I believe that I have to do anything and everything for him. I knew that if I left to the U.S.A to work for them, I wouldn’t see my baby boy grow up. If I left my wife behind, I would probably lose her for being away for too long. I still, chose pain over happiness. It was very painful for me to leave my baby boy and my lovely wife behind. I felt perplexed; I didn't know what to do; my world was devastated. Even though I was suffering from the inside, I had to show that I was happy on the outside. People saw me laughing and playing, but my heart was in agony. My wife and son are worth my pain and suffering, so I picked pain for me and happiness for them. Time has passed quickly, and now he has grown up. I missed his childhood. I wish I could reverse time to be with him, and see him growing, walking, learning his first words, calling me “daddy” for the first time. I tell him every time I talk to him over the phone “I miss you, my beautiful baby boy.” “You have grown up now, and I don’t know what you look like.” In addition, my wife is lonely and waiting for me to come back home. Life is hard in the U.S.A too. Besides being chase by a sheriff and being attack by the “lady”. Having to pay rent and utilities doesn’t allow me to save much money. I don’t know for sure when I will go back, but I hope and pray it is soon. We are far away in distance, yet we are close together in our minds and hearts. Wont you want to cross that 130 degrees high desert for your love ones wont you risk your life liberty and anything for your family. I would 1000 times Being illegal immigrant is not easy specially if you poor. There is not visa for poor people. Visas are only issued to people that have money. Illegal immigrants come here to work and make some money. They take jobs that are not suitable for American people, so they can have a better job. They wash dishes so an American can be a manager. They do construction so an American is the engineer. They clean rooms so American can run the office. They wash your car so an American can be the boss. They clean houses so American is less stress after work. They take care of your kids so American get a better career, so there is advantages of being illegal people in the here.

extremezone

Did you ask the Mexican government for assistance? Can you tell me what the Mexican governmentis doing to helps its people find jobs?

Nwsmith61

Who ever this Venando21 is he is full of crap. I'm guessing he learned words like perplexed while what was it washing cars or cleaning houses. I dont care who you are or where your from if you come here legally we are glad to have you. If you illegal you need to be deported. We have the right to know who enters are country just like Mexico, Canada, Iran, or Iraq should have the right to know whos in there country. By the way, try to go to one of those countrys illegally and see what happens.

JuiceDeGrandel

Ignorance is bliss....

Dreamer441984

5 of the 9/11 attackers were illegal immigrants. This issue is about more than helping some, it's about keeping all here safe as well.

extremezone

Freak!

Offthemenu3

then Why do you want to be an American if you feel we are such bad people?

Majkumajku

they are american,just not from the U.S.remember that continet to the south?what was it called again?ummm,oh yeah South America.america is a continental demonym,not a country.

JuiceDeGrandel

Good people out-number the bad.

Dreamer44

I hold no hate over a person wanting to do better for their family. But there is a legal way. Perhaps the answer should involve more work visas, and not for the people that already have money as you've said. And while I'm sympathetic to having a child and having to leave them/be separated for money (dual military family and my husband has been gone for more of my sons life than here) laws still must be upheld. I truly hope that this law starts other factors moving as well, however there is a lot of crime that occurs as a result of illegal immigration that must be adjusted. And the mexican workers here deserve more than to just do the bottom work so that Americans can have better lives. They deserve to now use their improved situation to become legal, and apply to be a manager, or whatever else they wish. So that they may either return home to see their families or apply to have them move here. I'm glad you seem to have no hate in this situation. I don't either. However we both see that there is an issue, just from different angles. Thank you for your story.