Feedback from the Issue of Thursday, August 12, 2010

DREAM IN COLOR

Tell us how you really feel: I just finished reading "Get Out." I couldn't agree with the author more. His message that the rednecks in Arizona should just go fuck themselves was made most elegantly. (And great caricature on the cover of the intellectually challenged Jan "Governor-by-Accident" Brewer. The lady makes former VP Dan Quayle look like Einstein.)

So much bullshit is coming from the right that I'm choking on it. Despite what these racist ignoramuses say, we need sane immigration reform, not this enforcement-only approach that the federal government has half-assedly taken. It ain't fucking working!

There has to be amnesty for hard-working, smart, contributing-to-the-system Mexican immigrants. The DREAM Act, allowing the brightest and most patriotic Latino youth to become citizens, must be realized. What is it, anyway, with the right-wing retards who [don't want to] even let young people who are willing to get shot at in Iraq, young people who can become doctors and engineers, stay in this country? Fools, you are not helping our nation with your racism against these smart, educated, patriotic young people who were brought here by their parents when they were children.

I see the lying sack of shit John McCain going against what used to be his principles and acting like a cracker motherfucker. Here he is on his TV commercials, wearing a silly cap and acting like he's just one of the stupid sods who hate Mexicans. I used to have respect for him, but he's nothing but [a] sellout, trying to out-knee-jerk J.D. Hayworth.

I digress. Something must be done. And I'm happy [U.S. District Judge Susan R. Bolton] had the cojones to at least throw out crucial parts of Senate Bill 1070, one of the worst laws ever written. One final note: There never would've been a 1070 had the federal government not abandoned Arizona and other border states to peckerwoods like [SB 1070 author and state Senator] Russell Pearce. Rational policies should've been in place so there would've been no need for the likes of him.
Jim Byron, Phoenix

What exactly is wrong with a heart that bleeds?: More than once during this painful read did I set the paper down and laugh out loud at the misinformation you so proudly provide. This is the kind of ignorant bias fed down our throats by you bleeding-heart liberal, illegal-immigrant supporters.

Next time, do your homework on how many millions of dollars Arizona taxpayers shell out each year to pay for benefits we don't qualify for, and then maybe you will understand why illegals don't belong here.
Jarrod Reger, Gilbert

You're right — we might not call the police in that case: Your response to "What part of 'illegal' don't you understand?" is simply, "Why, none of it, sir. None of it at all."

Don't want the facts and law to get in the way of a good tear-jerking piece, huh? Have you ever considered that you might gain some credibility by dealing with issues like facts and law head-on? Let me guess — you were one of those little kids who put their hands over their ears and shouted "la, la, la, la, la" when someone said something they didn't like. You're still doing it.

Perhaps you haven't heard the example of the guy who leaves for work in the morning only to come home and find his house broken into. The inside of the house has been cleaned and painted, the broken disposal fixed, the lawn mowed, and dinner is waiting on the table. He finds out who broke into his house and says, "I'm calling the police." The intruder says, "But look at all the nice things I did for you."

Bottom line: He broke into the guy's house.

Yes, something has to be done to try to let the "illegals" make amends — a fine perhaps, paying back taxes, paying current taxes — which the majority won't do. And because our country is based on laws and government, yes, it is politicians and not magazine writers who will fix the problem.

As soon as the rule of law can be put aside with "sorry, I don't understand" (which is why, by the way, that ignorance of the law is not a defense in this country), you won't even be able to write your column.
Errol Shifman, Phoenix

You mean an open mind might help? Dang: This entire matter is not about anything other than the visceral fear white Americans have that they will soon be outnumbered both numerically and politically by those who are not descended from white northern Europeans. It is purely racial and little else.

By the way, I am Swedish and German in ancestry, but my maternal ancestors were officers in George Washington's Army in the Revolutionary War.

Those of us with some experience outside the continental U.S. and with different [nationalities], languages, and cultures have no such visceral fear. It is high time that a little tolerance replaces the peasant gossip that now prevails in Arizona.
Willard W. Olson, address unavailable

Thieves who contribute billions to the U.S. economy: Maybe if we called illegals thieves, Americans not living on the border might get the point that this is not a victimless crime.
Jason Sutterfield, address unavailable

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sk1951
sk1951

Nazi was a good idea gone bad. America was a great idea that is being crushed by socalistic PC idiology that won't work either.

Arizona, The Nazi State
Arizona, The Nazi State

Fucking Arizona, the biggest NAZI hate state in America and proud of it

Freedom
Freedom

Why are they Nazi's? Defending their own citizens? Im soory dude a true act of Nazism is the federal government allowing this invasion to go on.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

then republicans must be nazis,because they have been blocking any and all immigration legislation for nearly a decade now.check the voting records,then rethink your statement.and i don't agree with the az. nazi stare comment either their are a bunch of misguided,uneducated people making bad decisions,misinformed statements and unconstitutional laws in az.,but that does nor make it a nazi state.

sk1951
sk1951

Oh come on!!!! Countries have to have control of the people in it! Illegal immigration was wrong to start with. Asking that it continue is wrong. It is not about race it is about national security.

sk1951
sk1951

LIBERAL's: "PEOPLE AS PETS" AGENDA

People that believe in socialism see more in BO than true Constitutionalists. The liberals and world outsiders view: "Americans are spoiled". No...Americans are/were hard working and believed in Godly (not religious) principals that if you work hard and take care of yourself you will win a part of the American pie and dream of a home and family.

The people that want/demand it all be handed to them "cradle to grave" ...given to them by government do not understand that the government does not have "one single dime" to its name to give to anyone. It comes out of the pockets of all the "spoiled" American citizens pockets. And when money is taken and given "half of it" simply disappears into the pockets of government... just as does any money given to charity.

Liberals live in a reality that does not exist supporting a march to true socialism where everyone is equal. They wish to dispose of individualism. They hope for a collective or bee hive of people only bees truly do work for a living. They "want" a "should be" reality to exist and are attempting to "tax & spend" their invisible reality into existence. It is killing the founding principals of individualism and hard work.

This "should be" reality is not "the way it truly is" reality. I hope I never get stuck on a island with liberals...Well maybe it would be OK because the first time they "demanded" that I feed them...they would go into the Mulligan stewing pot to feed the true survivors.

So maybe there still is a place for "left wing" liberals!

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

and a bit of etymology or philology for you....liberal is dreived from the latin word Liber,means free,unrestrained.conjugated to the genitive case,liberis,meaning "of freedom",brings us to the english word "liberal",meaning,wait for it,wait for it,meaning "of freedom".so do you believe in freedom?that alone would make you,that's right,a liberal.odd how people throw this word around without knowing.i guess it helps being a polyglot(english,spanish,italian,french,german,bosnian,croation,serbian and russian).i would assume that you would know this,you seem knowledgeable,but really,people have no clue as to the actual meaning of this word.they claim they want or fight for freedom,then say they haye liberals and liberalism.very odd.perhaps that is due to our system of education?.?.?.

sk1951
sk1951

Yes I do understand. Thanks for the comment. And when I take the "what am I" test I come up liberal. But I am not one to view things from a party point of view. I listen to everyone and everything and feel with my heart and my brain. But I lean toward what makes the most sense to me and not toward a "should be" reality. Heart mind spirit reality all must take part.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

sorry for a spelling mistake or two,my eye-sight is not doing well.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

first of all,socialism is not about free hand outs from the cradle to the grave.it is about equality and community.while our tax dollars go to politicians,special interest groups and their lavish lifestyles.not to mention spending on completely unnecessary things like stadiums,vacations for politicians and innumerable wasteful things,including an illegal war in Iraq.in social democracies,tax dollars go into health care,education and the overall well being of the citizens.what people in this country view as socialism,i.e. Stalin,Mao,Ceaucescu etc.,is Dictatorship and Totalitarianism,not socialism.socialism is a form of democracy that promotes equality and good work ethics for the good of your family,friends,neighbours,and the country as a whole.this is why most European countries have a longer life expectancy,over all health,education and quality of life than in the states (must be horrible).and socialist does not mean liberal,or atheist.you will find that they are just as "godly" as any other people on this planet.they just treat people with more respect than the "godly" people in the states.so please,educate yourself on democracy in all of it's forms before you make statements based on "what you heard" or the nonsense that the fear-mongers try to ram down our throats.and Obama is far from socialist.he is just as capitalist as the pharmaceutical companies and h.m.o.s.and if you hate what you think is socialism so much,don't ever call the police or firefighters,911,don't put your children into public schools,and don't support the military,as they are all funded through taxes levied for serving the greater and common good of the people.and by the way,i am conservative.good day to you sir

sk1951
sk1951

Oh and by the way I am very educated on Democracy...it is evil. We are a Republic...huge diff. You may consider cracking a few books and getting off your soap box. IMHOhttp://www.albatrus.org/englis...

sk1951
sk1951

I posted the link to explain in my post to you.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

and how is democracy evil?would you rather live under totalitarianism,or a dictatorship?democracy is about freedom and equality.that is for what i stand.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

political science major,4 years,i am very well educated,not from a web site,but from actual university studies,and being well read.and again i am conservative,and i am neither writing nor replying to insult you,i only wish to dive people a better understanding.

some dude
some dude

Willard W. Olson you're a mislead fuck tard. There is a path for people wanting to be loyal american citizens. It morons like you that want to lie about there not being one, that is a disgrace. The military has a program where if a non-citizens serves in the US military they are automatically giving citizenship. So you argument for the dream act is absolutely rediculous. Children frequently have to pay for their parents misdeads and poor choices. You left wing nut jobs frequently ridicule the US for imposing its will on others. If we want to go with that line of reasoning. The US doesn't owe foreigners especially foreign criminals anything.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

Willard W. Olson,I applaud your ever so eloquent post.I could not have said it better myself.Traveling and learning about different cultures is a major key in stomping out and ridding this country of xenophobia.Kudos to you sir.

Steve
Steve

Willard Olson is a moron. The race card. How fucking creative. A Greeley, Colorado newspaper did a poll to see if Colorado residents wanted a law like SB1070 in their state. More Hispanics said YES, than did white people, by 62-61%. So how do you explain that, Willard the race card playing fool? Are all of those Hispanics racist against themselves? Dumbass.

sk1951
sk1951

The way things should be is from the left. Sure the world should be wide open and free to roam in and every person you run into would be over joyed and happy to see you. OK now...wake up!

People that appose law and further support law breakers is also just as crazy a thing to expect of true Constitution Law supporting Americans. Anyone expecting others to believe in a lawless society and to support law breakers with entitlements and citizenship's are out of their minds!!!

And they call the birthers crazy!!!!

Plewis37
Plewis37

Yet another Thursday goes by. With the same Story on it.... Oh Come on bring on something NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I1wildchild
I1wildchild

Jim Byron, Phoenix wrote that "John McCain was acting like another cracker motherfucker".I'm sorry, who are you calling racist? That was a racist name calling tirade. Congratulations.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

true,this was uncalled for and in poor taste.but as far as mccain is concerned,he has a short memory in his views and statements.when he ran for president,he stated that as soon as the pentagon and the highest ranking military officials said they wanted to repeal "don't ask don't tell" he would be right behind them.and so they did this year,and what was his reaction?the exact opposite of what he said he would do.this has become his standard.he will do and say anything which he thinks will appease his party,who are the ones that have been blocking any kind of comprehensive immigration reform for the last ten years.even against their president G.W.I agree that there is a problem at the federal level,but the partisanship on the side of the republicans has defeated any and all attempts at sound reform.

Patriot
Patriot

I'm always amazed at the left wing, bleed heart ranting of the liberal loons that write for NewTimes. Every play has been used by the left to demonize the right, hardly fulfilling Obama's promise to bring America together. But then again, NewTimes never made that promise in the first place and it shows.

Since we right wing loons are painted as racists and haters, I thought I'd espouse some of the more eloquent achievements of the left, in contrast, to set the record straight. Every item in the list below is fact, documented ad nauseum.

1. The Dems were against freeing the slaves.2. The Dems were against blacks voting.3. The Dems were against women voting.4. The Dems started Social Security-- a ponzi scheme, then raided it over and over.5. The Dems were against Civil Rights.6. The Dems have been the cause, through action or inaction, of America's involvement in every war going back to the Spanish-American war.7. A Dem started the KKK.8. A Dem started Plan Parenthood for the purpose of lowering the black population.9. A Dem has been responsible for every presidential assassination.10. The Dems have had several high ranking KKK members as Congressmen, elected over and over.11. Every outspoken racist president we’ve had in this country has been a Democrat.12. Dems brought us homosexual marriage, welfare, CPS, Taxes, God-less schools, minimum wage, and unions. Hardly something to be proud of considering all the damage they've done in the past, and will do in the future.13. Dems spat on and at our troops coming back from Vietnam and Korea.14. Every pro-Enemy celebrity has been a Democrat.15. The Dems falsely accused Iraqi veterans of war crimes, and then never apologized once acquitted.

Did you know?... Martin Luther King, Jr. and Sr. were both Republican conservatives.

So please, the next time your writers and commentators pull out the Saul Alinsky tactics book, I highly recommend you keep the above bullet items in mind. The facts show that the Democratic Party is a Party of racists, haters and killers. It's not surprising coming from a group that is largely God haters and morality busters.

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

when republicans refuse to work with the other side,simply because they are democrats,nothing gets accomplished for the people.all they do is spread fear and bicker to no end.the republicans shot down an attempt to provide the first responders of 9/11,even though it was co-written by a republican.they claimed it would raise taxes,which is true.however,these taxes were to be levied against foreign corporations who do work,and sell their products in the U.S,and pay not one dime of tax because they managed to skate around the existing tax laws by keeping their bank accounts off-shore,thus making tens of billions of dollars,not hiring U.S. citizens in our own country,and not paying a single cent into the economy from which they are becoming wealthy.now,i am not a democrat,but i will say this:your statement about democrats being racist haters and killers is one of the most ridiculous things that i have heard in,well,not very long.while it is true that in the 1800s the democrats were pro-slavery,at least in the south,along with other less than liberal actions,the table has done a complete 180 in the last 120 years or so.with the republicans attempting to stop any and all efforts to move forward promoting freedom and equality with regards to race and gender.they make the democrats of the 1800s look like mother theresa.and still today,in such an interconnected world,they to separate us,to make us fear or hate each other and to push us back to the days of absolute inequality,corruption and violence.they would like to return to the days under king george and rule of law dictated by the church,which is the reason the europeans set out to find this "new world".they wanted religious freedom,as well as freedom from religion.if you read article 11 of the treaty of triploli,which was ratified unanimously by the house,senate and president adams,you will,hopefully,realize that this country was not founded on ANY religion.written and ratified by christian men,who wanted religion kept out of the government and politics over all.so it makes no difference wether or not someon loves or hates god,religion,spirituality or whatever you want to call it,they carry the same rights as anyone else in this country,wether you like it or not.so go ahead and keep ranting and name calling as you seem to be enjoying to do so as you sit safely in your home behind a computer,net please know,that name calling and spewing hatred to anyone that doesn't carry your point of view NEVER solved any problems.it just males you,and your fellow citizens look really bad.as soon as this behaviour stops within our government,problems will start to be resolved.until then,we will be dug deeper into the hole that was dug by G.W.,the republican party,and the right wing,ultra religious agenda.if you want things to change,contact your local representative,who i'm guessing is republican,and tell them,wether republican,democrat or independent to get off of their pedestal and do what is right for the people,or they will lose your,and your family's vote.that is how you begin to change politicians and what happens to us.

sk1951
sk1951

Now the Democraps and BO are terrorizing America with the "We must save our children schools and teachers, police men and fire fighters and all the first responders." "...It is those evil Republicans that hate America and won't go along with all our "programs" (tax hikes) to save these most precious of all institutions".

This is a joke folks!!! Open your eyes. FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!! They have so much money now it can't be accounted for! NO NEW TAXES!!!!

Majkumajku
Majkumajku

yeah,screw the children.they can fend for themselves.and who needs teachers?they just spit out propaganda.and who needs to learn how to read anyway?!and the police don't need to interfere with our lives.if someone can't fight off a rapist or violent murderer,they are just weak and deserve what they get!!!!!!that is just ridiculous sk1951.these are imperative to our country's survival.and if the money for these things weren't cut at the state level year after year,we wouldn't need federal help to fund them.but republicans like to cut taxes and spend more than there is to spend.that is not fiscal responsibility.and don't forget,if it wasn't for G.W. and people like the uneducated,non-elected Jan Brewer,we wouldn't be in the mess in which we find ourselves today.and if anyone is terrorizing the u.s.,it is both the republican and tea parties with the fear mongering and hate speech.this is a fact by their own leaked memos and agendas.

 
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