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friend 11/16/2010 6:59:00 PM
nonw
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Guest 11/16/2010 4:26:00 PM
I am a big doofus.
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Chastings2009 11/06/2010 6:35:00 PM
I'd like to know , who signed off on the mystical search warrant. Search Warrants are not automatically issued on 911 calls.
There were also two different and conflicting versions ( police reports ) attached to the search warrant. As I first read the story , It sounded as though Rodriguez was demand-
ing to see a search warrant , but none was produced.
Recently , A friend of mine confronted a couple of prowlers , fired a single shot , and then
called the Phoenix Police. One hour and forty minutes later - they arrived.
Considering the recent story involving the shooting of a home owner , who was holding a home invader , at gunpoint , It has now become apparent that citizens will be forced to
defend their own property and then caustiously call law enforcement for help.
It's a troubling factor that will undoubtedly lead to the spread of cartel related activity due to the mistrust of those individuals , who have taken an oath to Protect and Serve.
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investigate. 11/04/2010 6:45:00 PM
If Daniel Rodriguez was not a threat, why was he tased by both officers, including Off. Sergio Virgillo? According to police accounts, the suspect was aggressive and got physical with the police, and after his pit bull approached the officers and was shot, Rodriguez 'went crazy', and grabbed for the officers gun, and was killed. It is unfortunate absolutely, but the facts must be reported, not just insinuation and rumor.
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10/27/2010 3:56:00 PM
Only good cops are the ones that bust white supremacists groups and protect your right to protest in the streets according to this writer.
Rodriguez was tased twice and pepper sprayed. Was he on something? Why was his mother so afraid of him? So, it's okay for Mom to be afraid, but not a Police Officer? The most dangerous calls are to violent situations like this where family members are involved. So, next time there is a call from Rodriguez's Mom, don't show up. Then we can hear about the Police not doing their job.
There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good honest writers and bias bad writers.
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Y?knights? 10/27/2010 1:35:00 PM
So one or two bad apples in a police department in the 5th largest city in the nation is going to cause you to paint all the hard working law enforcement officers as 'dirty'? How sad for you...
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burtlow 10/27/2010 2:06:00 AM
the police care more about controlling us rather than protect us
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burtlow 10/27/2010 2:04:00 AM
I think we should revolt every day the mcso and some others in law enforcement remind me of the gestapo and secret police in world war two era in gemany and russia
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F9F PANTHER 10/26/2010 11:34:00 PM
Dave- I was wondering why you woud waste your time reading this article since your position seems to be they are morons and are lying? If you know this article is untrue, why not come forward with what you know about the situation or are you just blowing hot air. If you want your opinion to count, use moe facts and less vulgarity.
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Samstheman2604 10/26/2010 8:36:00 PM
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
How many hundreds of citizens through the years have had to pay for their sins?
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Dave 10/26/2010 8:12:00 PM
"Sheriff Joe is doing his job!"
How many of those 40,0000 outstanding warrents are left to be served?
The rest of your republican rant is ignored as well as irrelevant
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dave 10/26/2010 5:41:00 AM
I wouldnt read anything these fuckin morons write This scumbag staff are a bunch of lying motherfuckers
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SorryToAsk 10/26/2010 3:49:00 AM
Regarding the death of Sgt. Drenth,
I apologize for asking these questions but because the motive is unresolved these difficult and perhaps wild theories must be explored:
Was there any relationship between Sgt. Drenth and DPS Officer Mark Serna who committed suicide on October 19? Was there a suicide pact? Is any of Drenth's DNA in the hotel room where Serna killed himself?
Was a computer forensics exam conducted on Sgt. Drenths cellular phone, his work computer and most importantly his home computer seeking information about possible enemies, suicide plans or other possible personal problems that might have been unknown to his family, friends or colleagues?
Former officer George Contreras said on television that Drenth was a guitarist who taught children in Drenths home. Did Drenth molest a child whose parents were about to expose him causing Drenth to then elaborately stage his own death and thus avoid exposure and prosecution while rewarding his wife with survivors benefits unavailable to survivors of suicide?
Was Drenth involved in drugs or drug transactions or protection of drug dealers that led to his death during a clandestine deal?
Was a post mortem drug analysis of Drenth's blood done?
Was Drenth involved in sex on duty and something went horribly wrong?
Was his car GPS turned of purposefully or was it broken?
Drenth was known as being tactically mindful. Calling out your location is a basic of officer safety. Why didnt he call out his location?
Again, sorry for asking these dreadful questions. Rest in peace Sgt. Drenth.
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Larry 10/26/2010 12:35:00 AM
read the website COPS GONE BAD .COM
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Patrick 10/26/2010 12:33:00 AM
my wife was raped by 2 small town southern cops in a southern Georgia jail back in 1968. they had her locked up for 2 months and took turn raping her every night for 2 months. back then you didnt sue you just dealt with it and moved on.she was 15 years old at the time.
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Larry 10/26/2010 12:30:00 AM
let a few pigs beat you half to death in your life and you will change your mind about them. i have been beat twice in my 62 years on earth by so called police officers. i was a hippie long hair in the 60s and 70s and thats all it took back in my day to get a beating by a pig.
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Serenidad696 10/25/2010 11:21:00 PM
pighater,you do have a right to spew your venomous garbage because this is America,but I gotta tell ya: you are as stupid as the name you use.
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Jose 10/25/2010 9:56:00 PM
If you had said this on NPR, you'd be fired.
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Jose 10/25/2010 9:52:00 PM
Look at all of the hate. "Phoenix cops need to know that whenever they pull over a citizen to make a simple inquiry, the image of two Phoenix police officers donning plastic gloves and dipping into their patrol car's trunk for a crack pipe to plant on a victim will be uppermost in the minds of many of us." So is the first image in your mind when you see other people working at their profession also the worst-case example. If you go in McDonalds does the image of a manager holding a female employee hostage and forcing her to strip and give head to hear boyfriend come into your head? There are bad apples in every bunch. Grow up.
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Larry 10/25/2010 7:36:00 PM
yea the cop should bash the guy or girl in the head till they bleed red and are brain damaged for life in a zombie state of mind then tazer them to death. if that doesnt work shoot and kill the bastard! thats what cops do.
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violence sloves all 10/25/2010 7:33:00 PM
a real person wouldnt sue they instead would kick their ass to a bloody pulp! only pussies sue. they let the lawyers do all the fighting for them cause they are to fat and out of shape to do it for themselves.
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jim 10/25/2010 7:27:00 PM
i have seen this same cop who killed that young man hanging out with the Hells Angels at their clubhouse on 24th ave a few times.
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Larry 10/25/2010 4:00:00 PM
SGT Mark Clarke of the Scottsdale PD is one of the worse. he is a corrupt as they come.
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Pighater 10/25/2010 3:57:00 PM
read the website cops gone bad to see all the shit they are really up to everyday 365. pigs are worse than the so called bad guys they chase around nowdays.
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Pighater 10/25/2010 3:55:00 PM
you can tell that pig in the picture is on roids / steroids. his neck is to big and thick like a pit bull. that comes from roid use down at the local gym where the pigs buy them from an illegal drug dealing roid dealer. he was probably in a steroid roid rage at the time he pulled the trigger on his pistol. or he was tweeking on ice/meth.
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Pighater 10/25/2010 3:51:00 PM
they both smell like pig shit to me.
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Rex 10/25/2010 7:57:00 AM
Do a cover story on the Phx PD. Instead of the stupid fluff you typically have.
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BadPhoenixCops 10/25/2010 3:01:00 AM
Wow Stephen Lemons. I am amazed you finally did a negative article after all these year on the Phoenix PD. Did the checks from Jack Ballentine bounce? Did Mike Polombo unfriend you on FaceBook? It’s only taken you about 4 years to catch up with the rest of us. It’s nice to see you finally woke up and realize the Phoenix PD are equally as bad as MCSO. It’s a great article and spot on Stephen, but all-in-all, you’re still a douchebag who is in bed with the Phoenix PD.
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Maureensearles 10/24/2010 11:54:00 AM
So because you are not like me, I should be afraid of everyone??? I don't think so. Not all people are out to get you. Not all police officers are out to kill you. The journalist generalized in the headlines. But was more specific in the column. My point was that people do not read the column....so all police officers stink. I don't think so.
The statement "Now when the tables are turned YOU are mad" was rude and off the point.
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Anon 10/24/2010 4:39:00 AM
The officer should be TREATED just like the police treat those they arrest.
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Anon 10/24/2010 4:38:00 AM
"Also what happen to presumed innocent UNTIL being proved guilty. Just get your facts straight not what you read glancing through a article." The police / media do this all the time to those they arrest, so why should it not be done when it happens to be one of them? Fired Deputy County Attorney Aubuchon stated in a transcript that they (convict) them in the media -- sounded like part of their standard operating procedure for getting convictions. The officer should be treat just like they treat those they arrest.
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Concerned Citizen 10/24/2010 4:32:00 AM
Sam, People wonder why the SPD seem to fly under the radar. You confirmed what we keep hearing.
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Concerned Citizen 10/24/2010 4:29:00 AM
Maureen, That's right the people just see the headlines. That's the game the police and prosecutors play with those they go after without search warrants, without arrest warrants, failing to follow protocol. Now when the tables are turned YOU are mad. At least he is living while the young man is dead. If people think it can't happen to them in this county, think again! The abuse is so entrenched in the culture of Arizona that ALL are at risk.
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Samtheman2604 10/23/2010 3:08:00 AM
Over here in Scottsdale corruption is a routine, professional practice. Making false statements on documents is very easy to determine. What are the reasons these deficiencies are not corrected? There are very easy to detect. The police are only the tip of the iceberg of corruption and incompetence that reaches into the inner depths of the Scottsdale Justice Court. Might that entity aptly be renamed: Scottsdale Kangaroo Court. Joseph Stalin would be proud.
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Maureensearles 10/23/2010 2:43:00 AM
People do not read the whole column all the time. They see the headlines. If my relative gets hurts because of your negative comments as to the headline......I may just sue!
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CheriAdrianna 10/23/2010 2:01:00 AM
I want to feel safe with the PPD around, but in the past few weeks, I'm sort of afraid every time I see ac PPD (or as I call the COPcops = City Of Phoenix cops) I don't feel safe anymore. I feel that the FBI, U.S. Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division, Arizona U.S. Attorney's Office and Arizona Attorney General's Office. Except I'm not sure I trust the AZAG and AZUSAO, cause if there is some cover-up going on, they may be the first to divert information and legal documents to save their hides.
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Good guys, bad rep 10/22/2010 7:43:00 PM
It is perfectly fair to the good cops that they are tainted by the bad cops - because the good cops refuse to "rat" on the bad ones!
When they start actively policing themselves, then they will have my sympathy when tarred by the antics of their peers.
For now, the keys to the jail, so to speak, are in their own hands. Don't want your reputation imprisoned by the criminal acts of others? Then man-up and do the job we pay you to do.
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 7:13:00 PM
why is suspect in paranthesis? He WAS the suspect in a DV call
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 7:12:00 PM
I would rather have "thug cops" then crack head pcp gang banging violent morons on the street! I would rather have our officers kick every illegal to the border, then have this constant racial fairness fight. I am a minority in south phoenix...White! Why did the hispanic people decide instantly that this was racial? cuz they want a war! I have had it with how much pride mexicans think they can have for Mexico when they dont want to be there! I think it is about time to call in the KKK!
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 7:05:00 PM
Yup he admitted it, right then and there, he was stupid in what his choices that day were. however thanks to Virgillos wife, it turns out crack is easier to get!
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 7:02:00 PM
I am not a republican, but I do agree that Sheriff Joe is doing his job..and a good one..but greendot..you dont need to name call to get your point across..you cant change or educate people when they are blinded by hate..Illegals need to go..I carry my AZ state issued Drivers Lisence, my birth cert..says Phoenix AZ, so why cant they (illegals) carry proper papers and do it LEGALLY.
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Get your facts right 10/22/2010 5:25:00 PM
If he didn't pose a threat to them then why did both officers have to use their tasers? And Chrisman is on the Brady list for a completely different reason then integrity. Also have you ever met or knew officer Chrisman, I do. So before you start running your mouth know every fact. Like on the 911 call when his mom said her son has hit her before. Also what happen to presumed innocent UNTIL being proved guilty. Just get your facts straight not what you read glancing through a article. We all read what you were saying over and over. Get something new
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Greendot55 10/22/2010 5:03:00 PM
First of all dumb fuck! its greendot38 not 28! not 18 but that's typical of you pansy ass libs, never have your facts straight. Sheriff Joe is A hero! you losers who dont like him going after illegals shows how really stupid you really are Whaa!! Sheriff Joe is doing his job! Whaa!. And I'm not questioning the reporters credentials, because there is no question they haven't any! a reporter gives the facts, not there dopey opinions but lets face it there's a reason Fox news is number 1 in the Country most other so called journalists are left wing pansies who's mama took them off the tit to soon, now that's the truth! GO SHERIFF JOE! GO REPUBS! cant wait until a week from Tuesday so this country can finally get back in the hands of Proud Americans who care for The U.S. first and not other toilet countries!
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 3:32:00 PM
sorry I meant mother not wife..
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 3:32:00 PM
since when is an unarmed man not a threat, how do you know he wasn't going after the officers weapon? yes he should just let the perp walk away? Read again about Virgillo, spotless..??? Innocent until PROVEN, right now you are just believing Virgillo's SECOND story! Wait and see..officer justified in the killing of a pcp junkie wife beater..Virgillo..is already guilty of not diffusing the situation..yup stand back and let your back have to do all the work.
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RealityCheck 10/22/2010 3:09:00 PM
Reality Check for ADD Sara:
1) Rodriguez was unarmed and posed no threat to the lives of the officers
2) Chrisman doesn't get to blow some guy away just because he's not obeying C.'s orders
3) Virgillo's record is spotless, unlike Chrisman who is on the Brady list for good reason
4) Chrisman will get his day in court, but he's correctly charged with murder
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O C D Sara 10/22/2010 2:47:00 PM
Why are you all so quick to judge, did you not know Vergillo's story has CHANGED 3 TIMES! Character matters when it comes to he said she said. Why are you all judging BEFORE evidence has been brought foreward. The WIFE does matter, you all seem to think if it was you who pulled the trigger that you would be sentenced BEFORE any evidence, and that this is just cops taking care of cops, BUT Drug DETECTIVE's WIFE is a smuggler and she walks with probation...that sounds more like Vergillo's pull in law to get her off. So either he shouldn't be a detective or a husband if he cant even figure out he is living with a smuggler. Wonder how she got the tips to get away with it for soo long?
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ex phx cop 10/22/2010 1:35:00 AM
Whatever happened to the phoenix cop who was pulled over for DUI in Gilbert or Chandler a few months ago and resisted arrest...was he fired or given another slap on the back...I mean on the hand
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FREECHRISMAN 10/22/2010 12:20:00 AM
Fuck You Lemons! FREE CHRISMAN! He had a clean shoot, too bad is back-up is such a fucking pussy......the fucker just stood there and didnt do shit! Chrisman took action.....the boys mother called police because. her words...."she was afraid for her life." Suck on that dickhead.
Lemons is nothing more than a pot smoking scumbag.....and when I pull you over Lemons, you better be squeeky fucking clean.....I mean so clean a K9 wouldnt alert on you or your car.
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Lupo Garcia 10/22/2010 12:15:00 AM
This whole thing stinks. What if there was something more going on between the two officers then we know about. As the days go on it becomes more and more apparent that there is more to this story then we first thought there was.
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Tomato 10/21/2010 11:51:00 PM
Sensitive about the wife-beaters, eh? Well, anybody who'd identify with Chuck Norris THAT much??? Says a lot. That and your earlier idiot post. And, no, New Times doesn't ALWAYS say it was some conspiracy by the police -- just when it actually is. Go back to butt-smooching Arpaio (like Greendot08).
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Matthew 10/21/2010 9:49:00 PM
How do you know I'm white?? Just because I have Chuck Norris of my avatar?? Just because assuming someone has a wife beater on does not make them a racist. Yes and there are articles on the New Times about officers shot in the line of duty, but the journalist always assume its a conspiracy of officer corruption. Another fact.. when someone assumes the identity of another without seeing them in person, is in fact a racist themselves Tomato... advice, get the IPOD out of your ear and get back into reality.
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Tomato 10/21/2010 9:42:00 PM
Matthew's even got a picture of himself in a wifebeater to prove he's a racist redneck. Matthew, you obviously don't read much. New Times write about police officers getting shot by illegal immigrants, too. Not that this happens very much. Most of the cop killers/shooters are whitebreads like you
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10/21/2010 8:47:00 PM
Its really sad when these reporters put up articles about police officers wrongful doings in the paper but do you see anything about when an officer gets shot and killed by illegal immigrants?? NO, to these journalist its all just corruption ... right?? POS!
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Jack Swift 10/21/2010 7:52:00 PM
You're too stupid to realize this, Greendot18, but when an idiot like questions the credentials of New Times writers, it only makes intelligent and sane readers respect them all the more. Dumb-ass trailer-trash can't get away with smugness, you moron. Nobody, but a bunch of neo-Nazis, geriatric motorcycle-gang members, and pathetic old rednecks buys anything you say.
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Jack Swift 10/21/2010 7:40:00 PM
Losers? Greendot 28, look in the fucking mirror, fucktard! Once you start blathering about Joe being a saint, that's when we all know you're just another cowardly, racist piece of shit. Maybe you can share a prison cell with your hero once the indictments come down. The two of you can have the butt sex you enjoy.
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Greendot38 10/21/2010 7:37:00 PM
Was this newspaper started by a bunch of reporters who were to stupid to get jobs as real reporters for a real paper
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Greendot38 10/21/2010 7:34:00 PM
Absolute vodka corrupts unborn babies brains! didn't your dumb ass mother care about that when she carried your dumb ass!
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Greendot38 10/21/2010 7:31:00 PM
Its time for you left wing brainless half wits to give it up! Sheriff Joe is a hero! Its completely understandable that you anti American anti law enforcement losers would be so angry with Joe since he is pro law, your pro law breaker! whaaa!!! sheriff Joe is arresting illegals again! whaaa!
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10/21/2010 6:32:00 PM
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Think "Training Day" too much unchecked power, even though that power has to be allowed at times, their has to be better checks, more cameras, more audio, both in cars and on cops persons, to ensure the safe application of the law upon it's citizens and not allow some "lets bust some heads" type cop get away with years of his own way. I'd also like to say that for the good cops, I truly think they are modern day super hero's.
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bobby 10/21/2010 5:40:00 PM
remember liberalism is a brain disorder with no cure
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Tibbs66 10/21/2010 5:25:00 PM
hold up, PPD supporter. doesn't sound like lemons is blasting all cops. far from it. he goes out of his way here to praise them. as for chrisman's integrity, he's on the brady list because of that little stunt with the homeless woman. lemons main point is that these two guys shouldve been able to handle an unarmed man that was smaller than them without killing him. if they can't, i hear the post office is hiring.
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Mike Wells 10/21/2010 4:02:00 PM
//"Perhaps a story on his partners felon wife would be of interest??"//
Not pertinent to the case, moron. Look at it this way, we don't hold it against you that your mother's a crack whore, if this cop wasn't a member of his wife's conspiracy, why should it affect his accounting of what transpired? Beyond that, even if he IS complicit, what about the crack pipe planting? It's right there on the video, clear as day, the man admitted it. It's a sign of conduct that is NOT smiled upon for our officers.
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Hollister 10/21/2010 12:15:00 PM
"the same height as Chrisman (5-foot-7)".
Years ago PD's across the country eliminated or lowered height requirements for recruits.
The idea was to open the ranks to women, Hispanics, and Asians. Unfortunately, it also opened the ranks to short/stocky/aggressive overcompensators.
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TeoBuneo 10/21/2010 9:47:00 AM
Stupid, stupid, stupid! Yeah sure you dimwit, everything worked out fine except the "suspect" and his dog died at the hands of a dirty cop! How many other PPD cops carry and plant evidence? I am not OK with it.
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TeoBuneo 10/21/2010 9:41:00 AM
Hey dummy supporter, notice you fail to mention the evidence planting incident that only resulted in a one day suspension. Fools like you who will support criminal cops without question really need to wise up. It very well could be you who ends up fighting charges because some cop planted evidence on you. Now we can't trust our law enforcement officers, there were two directly involved in planting and two others who witnessed it then failed to report the crime. And the harshest punishment was a one day suspension. We've know for years that Arpaio and his thugs are a pack of criminals, but now it's looking and smelling damn disgusting at PPD!. Yet you moronically attempt to make excuses for these four who have been exposed as criminals!
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Squatting_caveboy 10/21/2010 8:14:00 AM
You've convicted Chrisman even before his trial has begun. So, your "news" then is just opinion....and it stinks.
Perhaps a story on his partners felon wife would be of interest?? More to this story than the OldTimes cares to realize
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Bucky 10/21/2010 4:29:00 AM
A domestic disturbance call is typically the most dangerous situation for a cop. One party calls to say the other is beating them. The cops get there and both parties start beating on them.
Yes a cop did bad. His backup reported it. End of story.
Now, does this article make you an accessory to assault if it results in an officer being attacked while on the job? I'd certainly be inclined to consider that were I on a jury.
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PPD Supporter 10/21/2010 3:46:00 AM
Ok seems like you missed a few points. The 911 call from the mother revealed that her son has hit her in the past. So that doesn't make him aggressive already? Both officers had to use their tasers. Another sign of not being aggressive? I think it is on both counts. Fights are breaking out in the parking lot of the S. Mountain Precinct between cops. Also if you listened to the PLEA spokesperson (PLEA is their union) the reason he is on the "Brady list" has nothing to do with his integrity. So please get your facts straight before you slander people who put their lives on the line everyday for you. Also did you know prior to 1998 the leading cause of police personal fatalities was car accidents. Now they are being shot down in the middle of the street and their assailants in away are being defended by a person just like you. I'm not saying that every cop is perfect, their are always bad apples. Like in the military. But don't see you slander the Army when they have civilian casualties. But dont slander a group of individuals who put on a uniform for your safety. Who would you call if someone broke into your house? A cop. You have the right to hate them and disrespect them, but it is their job to be there for people like you and everyone else. Not because they had to be, it is because they chosen to be. And after reading your article, have you ever wore any uniform? Put your life in someone else's hand and them to you. I think not.
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OKwithit 10/21/2010 2:14:00 AM
Seems to me that the system worked as it should. The cop was immediately reported by the other officer at the scene, he was charged, he was further charged when the investigation supported the charges and the Department brass were open and transparent about the officer's history. Unfortunately the DV suspect died but after the death it seems like everything happened the way it was supposed to happen.