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Rcm 10/20/2011 4:53:00 AM
People complaining about Rocky Point on this site are pretty gutless and I wonder if most of them have been paid by some U.S. tourist agency. It's a safe place if you're a smart traveler, period.
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10/09/2011 4:41:00 PM
So, Americans wishing to visit Puerto Penasco (not the "real" Mexico) are all stupid, racist, narrow minded, wasteful and provincial Americans? OK, I'l take my American tourist dollars elsewhere unti I'm treated with more respect. Thanks you.
And, like any, many others, I challenge your clam that "Mexico is a beautiful country."
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10/09/2011 4:36:00 PM
You are correct: Puerto Penasco is in a foreign country. A very dangerous, dirty and corrupt foreign country. If you're robbed, assaulted, raped or killed in the US, at least there will be an investigation and JUSTICE. Not so in Mexico where the police are either involved or afraid to arrest those responsible.
THAT is why Americans are staying away from this corrupt and dangerous country.
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10/09/2011 4:33:00 PM
But if you're robbed, assaulted, raped or killed in the US, at least there will be an investigation and JUSTICE. Not so in Mexico where the police are either involved or afraid to arrest those responsible.
THAT is why Americans are staying away from this corrupt and dangerous country.
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Bigrussboy 07/24/2011 12:25:00 PM
Last summer, my brother drove my wife and her visiting parents down to Rocky Point for a weekend visit. Once inside the Mexican border, just before turning onto the road to Rocky Point, they were stopped by 3 police officers, who told my brother he was speeding (he wasn't). To solve the problem, one of the officers demanded $200 cash...or they would have to go see the local judge. My brother decided to call their bluff and said "Let's go see the judge." The 3 then walked away for a conference, returned, telling them 'never mind' and let them go.
In the midst of all these issues, real and perceived, you've got Mexican cops trying to shakedown a car full of Rocky Point bound tourists!?! Just inside the border? Real fucking smart. Perhaps, and I don't want to sound any alarms, but that may have something to do with the Rocky Point economy, eh?
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Kpfrasier1 07/20/2011 7:48:00 AM
I just came back from rocky point this last weekend... I had an amazing time. We hung out at the local spots and walked around the shopping areas. Never once did I feel unsafe. This comes from a someone who walked the streets of Iraq and knows what danger feels like. I loved the locals and this that all the media scare is a hype. 3/4 of the people on the road on the way down where America and 9/10 of the people on the road coming home were American. My advise. Don't trust the hype. Come and enjoy Mexico.
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Tonelove10 05/29/2011 4:17:00 PM
Yes they still are. The is the EMTALA law where hospitals cannot turn away anyone. Schools still are overwhelmed with illegals. Not colleges though. I've been out of Phoenix for a month and worked as a nurse. They are are still ( illegals) outside of walmart.
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hisnicptry 05/16/2011 7:14:00 AM
They DO NOT love HISPANICS AT THE NEWTIMES from a master seargent I know in the army who IS fully HISPANIC and my friend and PATRIOTIC neighbor says really nasty people.
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hisnicptry 05/16/2011 7:13:00 AM
newtimes is so ethical but hmmmm run by a bunch of people getting dirtier money than you even realize, ...........yet...so ....wait ....and.see what we have to share about this rag
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hisnicptry 05/16/2011 7:11:00 AM
wow lived there love most people but the corruptive left has damaged more by doing their level best to show our phoenix cops and sheriff to be racists and they have been killed by illegals too, but you won't see that, why why i have to be suspect of the motives by the very nasty perverts behind this rag what a bunch of bullys who try to smear our police......AsISEEIt
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Guest 05/10/2011 7:27:00 PM
I am an American living in Rocky Point and I DO NOT own a business, so I am not of the camp that "begs Americans to come here" and "open their wallets". I love the beach and it is close enough to Phx for me to return to visit my family. I had been coming here twice a month to visit friends (driving alone) for the past few years and Ive never so much as seen a car accident on the road, let a lone any type of violence. I have lived here for a year now, and love it and have never experienced danger or violence of any kind. I go out in town during the day and night for errands, shopping, dining/bars, the beach and feel very safe. I now drive to Phx once a month alone and still have seen nothing of concern. When there is a crazy incident like the one mentioned above it is rare and is usually targeted at a specific person. When you follow the laws and associate with your friends and people you know nothing happens to you. As mentioned in another comment, friends and family feared I might face backlash here because I am from AZ and have AZ plates on my car but not the case at all! I have never experienced anything negative here. People are very friendly to Arizonans here and understand that the people making the laws are not the same people coming here on vacation. I am here everyday so people can say what they choose about this town but I live here and I love it. I will make my assesments based on my experiences. Oh and PS: to say that AZ welcomes undocumented immigrants w hospitals, schools, etc is hilarious! Nowadays people who are undocument have no access to resources and certainly are not "welcomed" by most people.
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MIKEY 05/08/2011 6:43:00 AM
In Rocky Point there is on average one killing every month or two. How many are there in Phoenix? Weekly? Daily? Where is the real danger? Many Americans own vacation properties in Rocky Point and are suffering staggering declines in property value due to the ridiculous and unfounded panic promoted by the conservative media.
What didn't get much press was the fact that Jan Brewer (the Governor of Arizona) was pushing for, so called, immigration reform in order to support the financial agendas of the private prison lobbyists who contributed to her campaign. Read this article: "Prison Economics Help Drive Ariz. Immigration Law." Search for it on NPR's website. It tells the real story of how Senate Bill 1070 came about. It was all about money, just like the Iraq war.
The Republicans now follow a formula: 1.) Create a crisis. 2.)Promote the crisis on Fox News -to its gullible and jittery demographic. 3.) Find a (very expensive) solution. 4.) Pocket the proceeds.$$$$$$.
Don't take that pinhead, (to use his own word), Bill O'Reilly's word on everything, Rush Limbaugh is an idiot too. THEY ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY. O'Reilly even says it in an interview on Bill Maher's show. Maher is acusing O'Reilly of spreading misinformation and O'Reilly says that "I am on opinion guy, not a fact guy, Maher. People who watch my show know that." Too many people now get their "news" from these sources. Bill O'Reilly and FOX News jumped on the Jan Brewer -Arizona Immigration bandwagon for the simple reason that it made Obama look incopetent and unresponsive to their "crisis." There is a very good clip on YOUTUBE for those of you who get your news on Fox News. It shows Jan Brewer AND Fox News' shortcomings. It is called: Fox News Hides Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's Debate Meltdown? Check it out, too.
As far is Rocky Point goes, properties are cheaper than ever, there. It is safer than ANY major city in the United States. NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY IN ROCKY POINT!!! It is a buyers market now. Ignore the conservative media. THEY HAVE AN AGENDA. WHEN A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT GETS ELECTED, I PROMISE THAT YOU WON'T HEAR ANY MORE ABOUT THE "IMMIGRATION PROBLEM IN ARIZONA"
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norah lee 04/25/2011 11:15:00 PM
What scares me most is the people who are commenting in such violent and rude
manners......As was stated by one person.....The Mexican people in Mexico who
are happy to stay there and try and make a living....are not the same people who
are coming here illegally ! They are hard working happy people who treat the
"foreign" visitors with respect....Why are some of you getting some upset with
your comments.....If you don't want to go to Mexico....no one is forcing you....stay
home and let the rest of us enjoy our visits....No need to be so negative !
Norah Lee
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norah lee 04/25/2011 10:59:00 PM
We have driven to Rocky Point for the best 13 years, either with the motorhome or
by car....from Washington State...We have never had any trouble, or heard of any
trouble...This year when we were there in March....we heard of a Mexican sailor
who was killed by an angry husband....While visiting Phoenix during the same
time period....we hear of police shootings, robberies etc....We feel much safer
in Rocky Point !
Norah Lee
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Cliffmarkllc 04/25/2011 9:20:00 PM
The businesses need to take the reigns and secure the trip down and back. Need signs rest areas and security even business payed for if necessary. Its a damn shame mexico floods across our borders and we welcome them with free hospitals, food, schools and suck up media. I will keep my money in the US.
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Dan 04/09/2011 8:13:00 AM
Americans used to be bold and crave adventure. Now it seems Americans want a guarantee they won't be over charged for a margarita or stopped by the police. I am also very opposed to illegal immigration and consider the act criminal. When I moved to Mexico I followed the laws and paid the fees. But Mexicans seem to view things in terms of shades of gray; hence the illegal migration. This may come as a surprise to Americans but it is not the dream of most Mexicans to live in the U.S. Most of the ones I have encountered never even think about it. By-the-way my bar doesn't cater to American tourists. Whether Americans spend their money down here or not makes no difference to me.
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Dan 04/09/2011 7:48:00 AM
Remember Puerto Penasco is in a foreign country. Why would you go to another country and expect to be able to trust complete strangers? Sounds very risky. To expect the same or similar policing and other civic functions from Mexico or any other country is short sighted. Mexico is Mexico. It's not the U.S. The culture and government structure is different. I think Americans need to accept it for what it is instead of trying to impose their American values and expectations on a population that seems to function well as it is. I'd rather go to Puerto Penasco than Phoenix. Scared because a car has a burned out headlight? How do you function?
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Brenthonn 04/09/2011 6:16:00 AM
One thing never mentioned in this article or any other regarding rocky points declining tourism issues; mexico's blatant attacking of US law and esp AZ. Most Arizonans are genuinely upset w the illegal immigration problem and lawmakers are trying to do somethings about it, Mexican officals rail against the laws, sue the state, seem to encourage illegal immigration all the while begging Arizonans to come w open wallets. I have travel/vacation money/time to utilize and Im going to go and spend where isnt hostile to my state dealing w a problem, throw in the percieved threat of violence and my wallets not going to Rocky piont or Mexico. So the bar owner down there can call me a 'pussy' but he wont see me or my wallet.
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Ed 04/08/2011 5:41:00 PM
The problem with Rocky Point is that you don't know who to trust. If you get pulled over by the police, you don't know if they are real police, or corrupt police and are going to "frame" you for some bucks or ask for a twenty and let you go. Granted some american police are corrupt as well, but the percentage is much lower. If Rocky Point is serious about getting business. They need to hire a larger police force and pay them enough so that they want to keep their jobs and will not accept bribes. They also need a local "911" type number with an fluent English speaking police person who can talk to you if you get pulled over, or can help you if you have a problem. This police force needs to be visible from the border all the way to RP and around town. They need signs with the number displayed. This would help me feel safe enough to try it. We used to go twice every year. We didn't go in 09, then went in 10, the same weekend the police chief was shot up. Haven't been back since. The road there is long and feels deserted. Once a surburban came up behind us with a burned out headlight. We were pretty scared that it was a cartel member. I would also feel better about the trip if we could bring a gun, but you can't so you are very defenseless.
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Dan 03/27/2011 4:10:00 AM
Jack,
I live in Puerto Penasco and own a bar on Calle 13. I've never had any problems other than petty thefts which could happen anywhere. It really distresses me at the lack of logic that Americans use to justify their fears. When people such as yourself continue to express fears based on geographic references as "Mexico", it perpetuates the notion that the entire country is under siege. Employing your logic how could anyone feel safe in Boise knowing that Phoenix is the kidnapping capitol of the U.S.? How could anyone feel their car is safe from theft in Palm Beach knowing that Sacramento is the car theft capitol of the U.S.? It doesn't make sense. Because I own a bar I have dealt with the local police and found them professional, caring and experienced. No they don't have the finesse and tools of major U.S. police but they get the job done as best that they can.
Don't vacation in Juarez, Phoenix, Detroit, St Louis or South Central Los Angeles because it's not safe. Do vacation Puerto Penasco because it is safe.
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03/27/2011 3:09:00 AM
It's really a shame that tourism has taken such a drastic hit, but you can't blame people for being antsy about spending money to put yourself in danger. I lived in Mexico for five years, and I loved it, but would I travel there now...NO, I'd go to the DR, or to PR, or other places where I felt safer. I'm too old for the drama...I just don't want it in my life...I don't deny that the failed U.S. drug policy has caused the problem...I don't support the policy, and never have, but travel to Mexico NOW puts yourself in jeopardy. Things will change...Soon, I hope...
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Hegelskitchen 03/22/2011 4:22:00 AM
Puerto Penasco is not at all the real Mexico and is obviously already set up to cater to sumbass, racist, narrow minded, wasteful and provincial Americans. Travel the real Mexico, speak Spanish, learn the history and culture and open your mind and your eyes. Mexico is a beautiful country with an amazing culture and friendly, welcoming, generous people. Places like Puerto Penasco are like movie sets by comparison and give yokel Americans the wrong idea of what Mexico. And I have traveled all over Sonora and Baja, often alone, for the past 20 years and not once have I had any trouble of any kind.
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Katherine 03/21/2011 8:52:00 AM
I went on a road trip to Rocky Point in November of 2009 and our car was stolen including our passports inside. We were parked in a pretty touristy area. No, we were not murdered but will I be going back there anytime soon? NO. Maybe if the police had been of some use (they had maybe two computers from what looks like 1992) and wrote our "case" down (I couldn't make this up) in a big notebook which was then placed on a dusty shelf. They claimed to not have a phone we could use to call home and then preceded to steal the only working cell phone we had. Apparently a 1998 Honda civic is in high demand there because I saw lots and lots of entries for Honda civics. We got back by hitchhiking and they let us in with our drivers licenses at the border. It was an adventure for sure but one I don't think I'll want to experience twice.
However, I don't support the fear campaign our idiotic, racist, and deplorable state politicians (including the Governor) say about people from Mexico and immigrants in general. I had a bad experience in Rocky Point but if anything the total lack of government I felt there only makes me more understanding of why Mexicans come to Arizona in search of a better life.
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03/16/2011 2:24:00 AM
blah blabh blabh blah. why does it seem like its the same unproductive comments over and over? unoriginal bastard... say something different, dont copy and paste what others post... solutions buddy!!! s o l u t i o n s....
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03/16/2011 2:12:00 AM
how do you flush it?
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Jack Swift 03/15/2011 9:31:00 PM
Like I say, Sdsaulka, you're a racist piece of shit and too stupid to know it. Your words speak volumes about your dumbassedness. And learn to fucking spell, retard! If it were left up to me, I'd deport your ass to Mexico and let the locals tear you to shreds. You're just another hillbilly coward, who would get his ass beat if he made the kind of comments you make in the bar I frequent. Gay Bay. Where the fuck is that? You mean San Francisco. I wish to hell this sand dune were as progressive as that. You'd wind up in jail there.
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Usgovfail 03/15/2011 5:55:00 AM
I'm not afraid of them and I am not racist. I have several mexican friends and they even support SB1070. People who steal identities do not work hard, theya re thieves. People who have stolen identities do not pay income tax. They actually create a nightmare for the person whose identity they stole as the IRS then comes looking to them for money that they didn't earn. Corona sucks, I used to drink it like ten years ago and then I wised up. Tecate, sucks, drank it once and thought it was terrible. Pacifico is the only mexican beer I'll drink if its all that is available. I do wash my own car, by hand. I also do my own yardwork, I clean my own house (mop andvacuum the floos, dust, clean toilets and clean my showers etc). If I have to I will pick my own food. You know who else are cowards and leeches? ANY person who comes here ILLEGALLY. Come to America legally or do not come at all. My grandparents came here LEGALLY. They paid taxes. My mother and father were born here. They paid taxes. I have paid taxes for over 20 years of my life and I am sick and tired of paying taxes for illegals who demand things they did not earn. Illegal is not a race, it is a crime.
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umakemesick! 03/15/2011 4:59:00 AM
May God have mercy on your RACIST soul. You have so much to learn! Mexicans are not cowards....the problem is you are just afraid of them...you wouldn't say that to their face...right? If course not! Leeches...lol...yeah right, they work hard too. They get taxes taken out of their checks just like the rest of us; only you reap the benefits...you can claim taxes, they can't. If you dislike "MEXICANS" stay away from ALL MEXICAN ITEMS!!!
FOOD (Salsa, chips; etc), DRINKS (Corona, Tecate Beer), CINCO DE MAYO.....and by all means WASH your OWN car.
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Jddez 03/15/2011 4:51:00 AM
I travel to Rockypoint four or five times a year. I own a trailer down there. Have never had a problem. Yes, there is corruption down there and the Cartels have set up shop there. If you think there is no corruption in Arizona, you are very naive. The Cartels also operate in Arizona with other organized criminal syndicates. Does anyone know if Jan Brewer stills owns a home in Las Conchas?
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Corvidsupply 03/15/2011 3:06:00 AM
nope they paid part of the bill then refused to pay the emergency room guys the 150 bucks.Some of the parents were loaded but sobered up fast.My friend corrected reports in the Mexican press (radio i think) that the kids were drunk and helped interpret in the emergency room...all good boys that needed to know when you play with gun powder use tupperware not metal containers!
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rpexplorer 03/15/2011 1:54:00 AM
Some interesting comments here, Wonder what the daily body count is in Phoenix or Tucson? Suspect it is more than the one event cited in the article. Talk about milking a story. To Corvid Supply, The 3 Americans were part of the group, not as your comment implies, separate. They are all grandchildren of the condo owner and they were all doing something stupid. The injured were rushed to Lukeville and airlifted from there so it remains to be seem whether the Doc gets stiffed or not.
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Corvidsupply 03/14/2011 8:54:00 PM
Yea right i bet you have not taken part in hard physical work in 20 years.My guess is a scooter drivin,Fox a-watchen,Medicare a taken Patriot!
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Usgovfail 03/14/2011 8:51:00 PM
Is there any wonder why tourism in mexico is in the toilet? Hello, mexico sucks. The government is corrupt and in bed with drug cartel and the citizens of that nation are too cowardly to stand up and fight so what do they do? They flee and come here and leech off of hard working taxpayers. I have never been to mexico and I highly doubt I will ever go there. The citizens of mexic have no dignity. COWARDS and LEECHES.
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Hock 03/14/2011 8:13:00 PM
Admittedly I haven't been to Rocky Point in a couple of years, but I've always enjoyed it.
Like I tell my xenophobic friends. If you really want to stop illegals from crossing the border, invest in Mexico by spending money there. Visit and spend money.
The violence in some areas is real, but use your noggin. I visited Croatia last year, and people thought I was nuts. The area was amazing, the people were great (not to mention the food) and I had a great time. There was no worry at all.
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Mary G 03/14/2011 6:23:00 PM
Just wait until you are pulled over by arnmed, but not uniformed, Federalies and have $800 extorted!
Wake up dude - it's really happening!
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Mary 03/14/2011 6:18:00 PM
Been living under a rock?. American's are getting harmed & killed in Mexico regularly. Just this past weekend a women was kidnapped and luckily escaped befrore anymore harm could come to her. Then there was the couple visiting from New England gunned down end of last year, or the baby that was kidnapped, killed and used to transport drugs.
Just wait until you are pulled over by arnmed, but not uniformed, Federalies and have $800 extorted!
Wake up dude!
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Corvidsupply 03/14/2011 5:56:00 PM
Well a bomb blew up at the Sonora Spa in Penasco this weekend and severely injured 3 American boys....The bombers (a group of 13 Phoenix teenagers) took apart some fireworks and hit the gunpowder with a hammer on the tile floor!
The parents stiffed the emergency room doctors for 150 bucks on the way out of town...bad for the next American "victims'
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Green4me 03/14/2011 4:32:00 PM
I agree 100%
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Green4me 03/14/2011 4:29:00 PM
Nobody! is safe in any part of Mexico! period! Mexico Is a toilet, and until its flushed! The shit is everywhere!
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The Curse 03/13/2011 3:28:00 AM
By the way, guey, "tourist shot" isn't in the lead about the murder. He describes it as a "typical tourist spot" then discusses that the dude wasn't American or even a real tourist.
Ethics-less comment.
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The Curse 03/13/2011 3:25:00 AM
Who the fuck is Ryan?
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Al 03/13/2011 12:50:00 AM
i'm racist because i don't want to go to a 3rd world country? i'm racist because i don't want to have to support criminals? typical liberal name calling. why don't you move there if it's such a great place?
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03/12/2011 6:20:00 PM
Take a hike out of your ass to explore your planet you worthless racist pig! It's jerks like you that give gringos such a bad name all over the world.
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Hut from PHX 03/12/2011 5:35:00 PM
Wow, what poor journalism. If you read it all, the conclusion of the facts is "Rocky Point is completely safe for American tourists." But the reporter tries to scare the reader to get attention. Sloppy and poorly done.
Facts. A man from Juarez, Mexico (drug capital) is killed in a professional hit. This is described as "a tourist shot." The image is of an American/Canadian random victim. But later, the article finally clarifies that no American has been harmed in 20 years. Ryan really has both an agenda and complete lack of journalistic ethics in his reporting.
I have been to Rocky Point with family and friends dozens of times the last 5 years. No violence affects Americans. Nobody ever worries once there. I drive my Infinity down. But, hey, publishing the truth doesn't sell papers . . .
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ARH 03/12/2011 5:27:00 PM
You realize that you story is completely unbelievable, right? Americans are never mugged in Rocky Point, and the locals universally welcome the tourists. Better yet, the uneducated Mexican muggers communicated in English "never come back or you'll be burned." Sure, because all the common criminals speak so well. Nice try story teller . . . Fail.
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Al 03/12/2011 4:22:00 PM
Maybe it's just not fear that is keeping people away. Why should I spend my hard earned money in Mexico when myself and others are supporting thousands of Illegals in this country that are from Mexico? I will NEVER step foot in that 3rd world shit hole or give them a dime of my money.
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Mine69 03/11/2011 10:00:00 PM
Learn to spell!! Did you make it to 6th grade??
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The Curse 03/11/2011 6:20:00 AM
If you look like you type, I bet they imagined you to be a Neo-Nazi white supremacist fuck.
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03/11/2011 4:16:00 AM
I am a national of Sonora and used to go every year up until 1 year ago when everything changed down there. Now since the state has a PAN party governor that is fighting crime, nobody owns the territory so outsiders, and everyone is killing everyone for turf. I had a gun pulled on my face and had my SUV truck stolen at gun point while at a stop light down there. They later found it in the desert trying to cross drugs to Arizona. Trust me people when i say this, it is known among the residents of sonora that the municipal cops are in it. they charge the sicarios and kidnappers money themselves so they cover up for them. they are so corrupt. wait out some 2 years i would say because it is only gonna get ugglier. i love MY sonora but I AM NEVER GOING TO ROCKY POINT AGAIN.. LAS VEGAS, HAVASU OR CALI FROM NOW ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03/11/2011 4:16:00 AM
I am a national of Sonora and used to go every year up until 1 year ago when everything changed down there. Now since the state has a PAN party governor that is fighting crime, nobody owns the territory so outsiders, and everyone is killing everyone for turf. I had a gun pulled on my face and had my SUV truck stolen at gun point while at a stop light down there. They later found it in the desert trying to cross drugs to Arizona. Trust me people when i say this, it is known among the residents of sonora that the municipal cops are in it. they charge the sicarios and kidnappers money themselves so they cover up for them. they are so corrupt. wait out some 2 years i would say because it is only gonna get ugglier. i love MY sonora but I AM NEVER GOING TO ROCKY POINT AGAIN.. LAS VEGAS, HAVASU OR CALI FROM NOW ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rockypointtom 03/11/2011 3:41:00 AM
That sure is some kind of bullshut story sport. I go down there all the time and never have had a problem and know many condo owners there as well and never a problem. Lay off the meth.
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Vports 03/11/2011 1:27:00 AM
bullshit "Rocky Point has been a pocket of tranquility in Mexico — and exceedingly safe. For Americans, anyway" is that what there saying BULLSHIT. i went down there 2 months back with three of my closes budies we got muged, one of my budies got beat up in the face, and told us to never come back here or we would be burned"we told know what they ment by that but by the look in there face and all the weapons they had they did not want us there anymore ."funny thing is that this all happened in the resort right in the enterance". We just went to rockie point for a good time; get on there cruz boats, party and have fun. well sorry to say none of that happend. how can the person who ever wrote this be saying this. let me take him or her down to rockie point and ill show them the real truth of whats going on there. How about them apples......
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03/11/2011 12:47:00 AM
Lots of crazy stuff going on there, they commit tons of crimes and it's never reported
First page Google http://www.wsibenefits.com
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Robertflynn 03/10/2011 11:09:00 PM
Unfortunately, many crimes go un reported in Rocky Point. Victims are too frightened to go to the "police" because of their reputation for not pursuit of the criminals. How about the two 27 year old females from San Diego that were sent to visit their company's time share project in Rocky Point. Abducted for 8 hours and dumped in the desert were afraid to talk to any authority and escaped immediately to San Diego. Interesting too, that when Ron Ryan a Phoenix businessmen was killed and left in a shallow grave by the highway south of Nogales, that it was difficult to find in the Phoenix newspapers. Many stories abound and have been confirmed but are seldom reported in Phoenix.
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Sdsaulka 03/10/2011 7:50:00 PM
Jacks Quickly makes the article out to be a cautionary tale. It is no such thing. The anti-business New Times is instead whoring itself for Mexican business, making sure they take the usual shots at Americans. Nativist? Jacks Fast treats the term as a slur. As far as reading, he needs to do a bit himself, starting with his pointless letter. Tell us, Jacks Leftly, if you think we Americans owe tourist spending to anyone, much less any place. And tell us who should be the first to grieve their loved ones when the "safe... for now" era suddenly ends.
As far as people such as I "ruining" the state, we are taking this state back for Americans & have the votes & legislature to do it. My condolences to your socialist dream. You might just sidesaddle your ass on up to Gay Bay where the heat in the kitchen is easier to take.
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Showlowjoe 03/10/2011 7:25:00 PM
Troll....
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Showlowjoe 03/10/2011 7:22:00 PM
That's exactly what happened according to the locals that we know.
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03/10/2011 6:47:00 PM
And that would be different in Mexico than anywhere else in the world if you lost your passport?
And uh, yeah, you can get back across just by saying your an American, though I wouldn't recommend it. My oldest daughter forgot her ID on our last trip back from Rocky Point. She was let through.
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03/10/2011 6:40:00 PM
Chris,
Very much accurate though I would offer a minor correction along with personal experience; Michoacan is not a city but a state. Though it most certainly has it's share of violence (La Familia Michoacana, one of the fastest 'rising' cartels) the beauty of the state and general friendliness of the people cannot be denied.
This past summer we spent a week visiting family in a small town in Michoacan; Arteaga. It should be noted that this is the town where the decapitated bodies of 12 federal police were deposited. We walked the streets of the town, day and night, with never a problem. Even spent the better part of an evening in one of the towns bars, reputedly owned by a leading cartel member....had a great time (at least from what I am told). We drove from Phoenix to the Hermosillo airport (at night, both times no less) without a single incident. Since then, we've traveled many times between Phoenix and Rocky Point, again, with no issues. And, we're booked for flights again this summer to visit Michoacan again.
Overwhelmingly, the response I received from people I spoke with, and what I personally observed, echoes what you say...so long as your not involved with the drug trade and, as people have always known, use common sense, the majority of Mexico is safe to visit.
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ggllww 03/10/2011 6:08:00 PM
It cost my dad $300 CASH, back in the 70's when he lost his visa.....NEVER went back!
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ggllww 03/10/2011 6:06:00 PM
Moose.........That's ONLY because people like YOU, continue to pay for it!
I'd be scared as hell down there, espeacially if I had to drive there! Anywhere away from the tourist-O area and your putting your life in your hands!
Vaca in America.......!
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Jack Swift 03/10/2011 6:04:00 PM
Guys like Sdsaulka kill me. Read the whole article, dumb ass! It's a complicated situation, as Dane Quintin Gore says here. Yes, it appears safe, but it has been touched by the kind of violence out of Mexico that's making headlines. Sdsaulka, in his hatred for anything "lefty" has to make this cautionary tale into something he can Mexican bash. That's all the Natavist idiots who are ruining our state are about.
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ggllww 03/10/2011 6:03:00 PM
I wouldn't go ANYWHERE in Mexico, umtil they start doing something to help the U.S. with the Illegal Immigrants, coming to America!
Never could understand why the U.S. has tolerated this so long. We need 200 yards of MINES along the entire border. Put up signs WRITTEN IN ENGLISH - Period!!!
NT's never ceases to amaze me with these stupid articles..............
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Sdsaulka 03/10/2011 5:49:00 PM
So the lefty New Times is now an establishment tourist shill? No surprise. To that stinking old man who says we're pussies: yours is the typical Mexican attitude. Do nothing to improve your own country as you stand there with your palms up demanding a bailout from ours. Pussies, is it? Because Americans have brains is why we don't want to 'vacation' in a war zone. As to the safety of Rocky Point, I note not the smallest mention of the seven or eight bodies found along Highway 8 last year. The news here had a single blurb about the discovery of the bodies; then a news blackout was imposed. Not another word written about it. I go to Rocky Point frequently on business, & find it pretty much as the article claims, yet I specifically steer my children & their friends from driving down there anymore, at least until Mexicans decide they want a nation instead of an open market no-man's land. I did not raise them to serve as a death subsidy for lazy ass campesinos. We'll spend our time & money elsewhere, not in a land of greedy trinket merchants too sissified themselves to do anything but bleat like sheep in the midst of their own slaughter. I'm a Southerner, & as I recall history, it took us longer to march down there than it did to kick their asses. You want guests, then first clean up your house. While I'm venting, the thought occurs that if the evil gringo did stop smoking the local exports the Mexicans would starve like Africans. Ungrateful bastards.
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Forget Rocky Point 03/10/2011 5:25:00 PM
I've been to Rocky Point once. It sucked. For the drive and the money I'd rather go to San Diego.
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03/10/2011 5:07:00 PM
Mexico is basically in the midst of a war. There are crazy things happening there. Now I understand that much of it is in fighting of drug cartels, but over 30k murders in the last couple years is by no means a murder happens here too conversation.
The war on drugs has failed, and created that monster there, our drug policy must change. Funny how we do not have a gun problem here where it is legal yet they do, yet we have massive drug problems here and it is illegal. Prohibition creates black market cartels of all shapes.
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Moosehead 03/10/2011 4:55:00 PM
The problem with Rocky Point is they don't know how to adjust to the market. We were just there 6 months ago and rooms were still expensive, dinners were still $10-15 and beers were $3 and places were empty! Start cutting prices in half and make people feel like its a place they can go and have a great time on a budget.
They've been trying to charge "destination-resort" dollars the last few years and had become greedy and overpriced.
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guest 03/10/2011 4:50:00 PM
Try getting any help from a U.S consulate in Mexico if your passport gets lost or stolen.Lot,s of paperwork and you better have your birth certificate handy.They will gladly take your cash and after a LOOOONG wait .......NO passport.See if you get back across the border by just saying you are an American.
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Thorp28 03/10/2011 4:44:00 PM
People get shot in AZ all the time. So no one should come here either then?
I go down to Rocky Point all the time. I feel safer there than I do in Phoenix. And Im German/English!!! It is dumb articles like this that scare people for ratings and sales.
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Guest 03/10/2011 4:42:00 PM
not really. Az's economy sucks. that's why illegals pass through here to other states. and no one wants to leave Cali for this sucky place
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Lee Roy 03/10/2011 4:26:00 PM
Prosperity would return in a big way if Prohibition would end.
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*** 03/10/2011 3:45:00 PM
Chris,
Completely agree with you. But...as things stand now...the ultra-conservatives BELIEVE the BS and stay away. Makes for a much more pleasant vacation with them not around.
Just look at the AZ Legislators -- want to share a beach with any of them?
Also, if too many of them get comfortable visiting Mexico, they'll buy it up and move in. Disaster!
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Mythbusters 03/10/2011 3:43:00 PM
pull your head out of your arse, Guest -- anyone leaving Arizona is immediately replaced by people fleeing California and Mexico.
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Guest 03/10/2011 1:56:00 PM
Send Arpaio,Jan Brewer and Russ Pierce to Mexico as perfectly legal visitors.
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Guest 03/10/2011 5:36:00 AM
why not an article about how people are leaving and avoiding Arizona because of its bad rep? (deserved) picking on rocky pt iz lame.
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Gmfbear1 03/10/2011 2:59:00 AM
ANYONE DRIVING ANYWHERE IN MEXICO DURING THESE MASSIVE DRUG CARTEL MURDER SPREES DESERVE WHAT THEY GET! Save your money and your life and spend it in the Good Old USA!
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guest 03/10/2011 2:35:00 AM
Its not the town of Rocky Point...its the drive to Rocky Point...Long and deserted a good spot for someone to stop you take your stuff and your never heard from again.
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Dan 03/10/2011 2:04:00 AM
I live in Rocky Point and have never had a problem with any Mexican citizen. Sounds like the writer of this article is doing his best to discourage visitors by not telling the entire story. Why would four hombres with rifles insist a "tourist" leave with them if he wasn't somehow involved in the drug business? I heard he was hiding from them here. He lived in Juarez for 14 years one of the major drug centers? Sounds like a hit squad caught up to him.
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Chris_kabutto 03/10/2011 1:13:00 AM
Rocky Point is pretty safe... Why?
First, the violence is in some cities only like nogales, juarez, reynosa, tamaulipas, hidalgo, acapulco, monterrey, michoacan and tijuana, but vacation spots are completely safe, the actual situation in Mexico is a war but only between drug cartels and Mexican goverment, it's not terrorism.
Second, US citizens have never been the target of the violence of drug cartels, actually americans are their number one clients and their number one guns sellers...
And finally, there are more crimes in the US than Mexico (www.nationmaster.com), so Mexico is actually safer than the US.
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03/10/2011 1:03:00 AM
Better yet, one could read the entire article and see how complicated the issue really is.
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Big Bob 03/10/2011 12:32:00 AM
There are more effective ways to make your point without making ignorant racial stereotypes. For example, you could have said "Americans" instead of "white people".
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E5282003 03/10/2011 12:02:00 AM
Like any place the activity is bad,you are either part of the problem,,,OR part of the solution.
Clean up your house if you want guests to come.....
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Angelshes 03/09/2011 9:46:00 PM
white people are scared of anything. it must be a genetic fear. too bad they can't be scared of the drugs they stick up their noses, so long as they could do them in the safety of their own home.