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Whattheheck 08/21/2011 4:40:00 PM
So refreshing to see that the Phoenix Police Officers Union (PLEA) finally figured out that there is a law enforcement Code of Ethics. (See the PLEA Recap monthly magazine, May 2011 page 4.) PLEA leadership is apparently surprised that their members are being held accountable to compliance with the Code. Amazing that they never read the Code before. Perhaps now they can serve the taxpayers instead of themselves.
PLEA recap, May 2011:
http://www.azplea.com/index.php?option=com_con
tent&view=category&layout=blog&id=9&Itemid=28
Arizona Peace Officers Code of Ethics, R13-4-105. Minimum Qualifications for Appointment: http://www.azsos.gov/public_services/title_13/13-04.htm
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08/02/2011 10:39:00 PM
Can anyone explain to me why progressives and the new times writers seem to be completely unable to comprehend the difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration? And why is it that they have to proclaim any attempt at curbing illegal immigration, is an attack on Mexicans?
Is there some disease eating the truth and logic portions of their brains, or are they just stupid?
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Traxx 1 06/01/2011 11:50:00 PM
WOW
Illigal IS illigal, what the hell is wrong with people, I didn't work all of my life to have my tax dollars go to someone who slithered across the U.S. border and then expects me to pay there housing and food bill, KIDS, they drop them here hopeing that someday because of them they will be able to stay here, NOT, send the illigal parents back to Mexico and if they have kids let them make the choice of takeing them back or leave them here with a legal U.S. citizen. I didn't ask them to be here but they are in our face now claiming THEY have rights, NOT, U.S. CITIZENS have rights.
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05/29/2011 3:26:00 AM
Its the same really when you look at the Food Banks and see what cars those folks drive up in.....Can't pay for food or health care or their kids but no problem with paying for a $60 a month cell phone, booze and drugs or a brand new car. And this is all Ethnic Groups...not just Latinos.
Will fight 100 % for the rights of LEGAL Immigrants but I have NO SYMPATHY for the Illegals or THEIR Kids.
It is a fact that Mexicans (Legal and Illegal) send over $40 billion back to Mexico each year......They don't contribute that money to the American Economy etc.
Imagine if that money went to pay here for THEIR KIDS, THEIR Health Care etc
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malasangre 05/27/2011 5:44:00 AM
so you cant stand up for yourself w/o a union? of course w/o a union you cant get away with killing, stealing and beating people who arent impressed with your athoritah. and they call citizen unions thugs.
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malasangre 05/27/2011 5:28:00 AM
so you prefer to stick your head in the sand? the truth, or stinky garbage as you prefer, only hurts if it is true. now take your wide load back to your patrol car and EARN someones respect IF you can
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Rollem45 05/25/2011 11:55:00 PM
Mark Spencer will be the undoing of the bargaining power of the PPD and PFD. The City could simply dump the Meet and Confer agreement it grants to to PLEA. Keep screwing with them Mark. Stand by and watch.
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05/25/2011 3:13:00 PM
I am loving it Gonz!
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05/25/2011 3:12:00 PM
amen!
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05/25/2011 3:12:00 PM
If these "illegals" are so disturbing to you at your complex, why don't you get your big ass off the computer and contact law enforcement?
hiding behind a computer and whining will not resolve jack.
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joel 05/24/2011 7:08:00 PM
you are stupid nobody gave a chace to pay,they will pay thousands for this dream to be legal
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my name is 05/21/2011 5:11:00 PM
CALL the police and TELL THEM. Why just post it ?!
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FRIENDORLOVER 05/19/2011 8:49:00 PM
I myself back our Police and Sheriff 100%-Arresting any Person Who Commits a Crime,
If they Police and Sheriff want to really find Illegal's They should Look at DESERT STAR APT
1106 WEST BELL RD,PHOENIX,AZ i know for a fact there are illegals Living there,,and i know
for a FACT there are a few illegals working for DESERT STAR APARTMENTS,..
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Friendorlover 05/19/2011 8:42:00 PM
,I read alot os stories about ilegals have been here for so many years and they think its unfair to be deported,but its amazing to me how they can work and make money to buy things like Houses,Gold Jewelry,Expensive Cars & Suv''s..But they dont seem to have the money to pay for the fee's to become a legal citizen...Imagine That(Its called Priority)
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Gonz 05/07/2011 4:56:00 AM
Spencer is a scumbag, opportunist asshole that does nothing but run his sewer hole
Trying to defend a bad cop, and taint the eyewitness to his crimes. If his partner was such a dishonest person what does that have to say about PD's hiring protocol. just another case of one dirtbag defending another. Now this piece of work is trying to do the same to Erfles wife, luckily she smart enough to see through the bullshit!!!!
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Dchbic77 05/04/2011 5:00:00 PM
Grow up!!!! You can't begin to know me SON!! and you like your clone are not qualified to know me any better!! Actually, I am not one of the afflicted parties but independent, self employed and creating more jobs as we speak.I write my paycheck.
I do support the police and PLEA's dedication to the front line Officers. I need police protection and support when I do my job!!!
Take a seat somewhere while the rest of us who act and don't just talk change the world!
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Dchbic77 05/04/2011 4:42:00 PM
I am dissappoiunted that this site does not have a report abuse tab because your tirade went way beyond a civil discussion of individual's beliefs and response to an article that was not well written by what appears to be a biased reporter. If you are a police officer (I hope not) then lobby and vote for change.
If not then lobby police officers to support your opinion with out resorting to Bad Boy juvenile tactics.
I worked in Corrections when we didn't have a strong union and were subject to ridiculous abuse with no recourse. Public Safety workers have to have strong unions and leaders have to take positions (many times unpopular). Like our politicians don't like him but replace him through a vote don't just complain with a string of obscenities at a woman you can't even begin to know!!!!
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Dchbic77 05/04/2011 4:24:00 PM
No Thank you son, YOU are certainly not qualified for that position. Its taken by a man with integrity who reserves judgement till he has all the facts. I'm also glad to see that education dollars were not wasted on you, your command of the English language comes from the bathrooms walls in 3rd grade.
Maybe you ought to check out Rent-A-Life because you are lacking!!!
Again get the facts and proceed accordingly but personal attacks resolve nothing much like yours to me. I remain unimpressed by you!!!
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dave 05/03/2011 9:10:00 PM
isn't it there job ?? you are a true idiot
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Tommy Collins 05/03/2011 6:15:00 PM
JD, as you mature in your job you may get to the point where you recognize that criticism will make you a better cop and better person. Perhaps not. You may choose to remain nothing more than a slug.
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Ardwyck 05/03/2011 5:07:00 PM
I am guessing that nothing keeps this paper from printing what they want to print. Facts or truth or anything else won't deter this rag from printing. The peace officers, mentioned in the article, are NOT against immigration. They are all for it. They are against ILLEAGAL IMMIGRANTS. There is, much to your surprise, a big difference.
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Tired of idiot rednecks 05/03/2011 5:06:00 PM
No, you're wrong.
You think they are breaking a law - then cite it. Please use blue book form. While doing so, explain specific intent, as that is relevant to the section that deal with criminal immigration.
The simple truth is that the proper, legal term for the overwhelming number is "unauthorized," not "illegal."
That is why we use civil courts to deport them, not criminal courts to prosecute them.
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Kit Carson 05/03/2011 4:59:00 PM
HAHAHAHA
The phrase is inaccurate, as anyone who follows the issue knows. The term recognized at law is unauthorized immigrant.
Illegal implies a crime, which few unauthorized immigrants are guilty of.
Don't repeat what hate radio sells you. Do some research. You may have to dig deep into the google results to get past all the tea-party echo-chamber pages, but when you get to the source documents you will find that you're the one with the open pie-hole.
ROTFLMAO
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Kit Carson 05/03/2011 4:56:00 PM
Do you not understand the meaning of the word illegal and why you sound like an idjit when you use it next to immigration?
Do you not understand that we are a nation of law, where we tailor the penalty to suit the crime and the interests of the nation?
No one is supporting illegal, unlawful or unauthorized immigration. Period. We're just pushing back against laws that infringe upon the liberty of US citizens, fail to protect the interests of American society and serve to weaken the fabric of American culture.
You, not so much with the patriotism, so why don't you leave. We need people who love freedom, not those willing to surrender it in the name of fear-mongering and racism.
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Guest 05/03/2011 4:55:00 PM
you'll be waiting a while. the owner's new home cost $1million
http://www.desertlivingtoday.com/2011/04/25/local-newspaper-titan-building-modernist-hideaway/
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Kit Carson 05/03/2011 4:52:00 PM
The word is actually a phrase: civil violation of a federal regulation. Very few of the brown skinned people you loathe are here in violation of a felony law. That's why we use civil courts to deport them, not criminal courts to try them. That is also why the Republicans tried, in 2006, to criminalize unauthorized immigration and migration. They failed when they realized the downstream problems associated with such a law.
Just because you mindessly repeat the crap fed to you by hate radio doesn't mean the rest of us aren't willing to do independant research.
Google: 2006 republican criminalize immigrants
Ya just might learn something ... and the next time you come round these parts spreading you lies and hate, don't expect everyone to be so nice to you.
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Kathy 05/03/2011 3:56:00 AM
Yeah the New Times is so bad that Joe wont let it be seen in his jails..now that means that the Phoenix New Times is pretty fuckin bad! He don't want the inmates to laugh like azsafetypro!!!
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Lostinthesixties 05/02/2011 11:04:00 PM
The only racist thing about this entire article is the author and his diatribe. You are the problem. Not some overweight cop. Have you ever tried to protect anyone?
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05/02/2011 10:12:00 PM
well i guess it just depends on what part of the country you live in
in other parts the afl cio and seiu (long known as the gangsta arm of the fool on the hill and acrorn (under its new name)
have thrown in with pro amnesty movements
not nearly as strong since alot of unions withdrew from the alf cio and went their own way.
smart move id say
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jd13 05/02/2011 10:10:00 PM
I can't wait until they start calling it the "financially troubled" Phoenix New Times.
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Cgamble49 05/02/2011 7:22:00 PM
just backs up my belief that all the bigots and crakpots live in arizona.
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Tommy Collins 05/02/2011 1:39:00 PM
Ggllww, I don't see anything from Jason even mentioning immigration. He was talking about someone from PPD and that person being compared to the Maricopa County Sheriff, who is, in my opinion both mentally ill and corrupt. You apparently like the Flaccid Fool of MSCO. Good for you.
However, all you arguments about how wonderful he is are all very time worn and have no substance, sorry for you.
The MCSO shurf is about to fall, along with those he is in the process of getting rid of, to make it seem he didn't have a clue.
I will say this in his defense, however, he certainly doesn't have a clue about resource management or how to efficiently run a large law enforcement agency.
He's just a very tired and worn out old man who should have put himself out to pasture many, many years ago before he perpetuated all the harm he is responsible for.
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Ggllww 05/02/2011 11:29:00 AM
NT reporters al WAY OVERPAID for writing this dribble!
They should be on the side of the AMERICAN CITZEN - NOT THE ILLGALS, IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
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Ggllww 05/02/2011 11:26:00 AM
They are in this country "ILLEGALLY"!!!!
Hence the phrase - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!!!
It is better to say nothing and be thought of as STUPID, than to open your PIE HOLE, and prove it!
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Ggllww 05/02/2011 11:24:00 AM
Jason - Your remark sounds like all the other comments from those supporting ILLEGAL immigrants in this country!
I really don't know what it takes to make you all understand the word, ILLEGAL!!!
You can say anything you want about Sheriff Jow (I'm sure he is the " Flaccid Fool of MCSO" you are referring to all you want....HOWEVER REMEMBER....THERE IS A REASON HE IS THE MOST RE-ELECTED SHERIFF.....
HE DOES HIS JOB!
New Times should be embarrased to even print such dribble, But then again...they have been trying to nail him for years....
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Jason 05/02/2011 1:35:00 AM
Phoenix PD officers were impacted by the recession as much as anybody. So, it's natural that they'd look to their PLEA memberships for savings. It doesn't mean that Spencer's corrupt. When Phoenix hires more police, PLEA memberships increase. Spencer is at least an actual police officer.
Comparing him to the Flaccid Fool of MCSO, however, is probably not a smart idea. The FF is actually not a cop, lies to the media, fabricates stories about when he stopped Elvis Presley, cost his bosses (us taxpayers) $59 million JUST in lawsuit judgments and payouts, etc. Spencer is nowhere near the level that the shurf is.
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Guest 05/01/2011 9:49:00 PM
Growing up I used to trust law enforcement officers and even was friends with a la county sheriff who eventually quit the force because he was sick of the corruption he observed. But then my POV was changed because of being beat up by cops for wearing clothes and a haircut that they didn't like as well as being charged and arrested twice even though I conducted myself in legal manner... fortunately the judge saw through the trumped up charges and dismissed both cases in the interest of justice. When cops break the law and cause me to lose money keeping me away from my business than there is no way I am going to trust them. Which is why arpaio and his goons are scary because I know I could be arrested even if I did nothing wrong other than a cop not liking me if I assert my legal rights in a calm and cool manner... that seems to piss them off so I don't trust them whatsoever.
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Guest23 05/01/2011 9:39:00 PM
Reporters get more money from producing a headline story???? From those I know at NTs the majority are paid a set salary and not by where the article is placed.
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alan 05/01/2011 7:54:00 PM
do you liberals not understand the difference between legal and ILLEGAL immigration? do you believe laws only need to be enforced or obeyed when convenient? can i start robbing banks and claim I just want a better life for my family and expect to be free from prosecution?
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Mypet91942 05/01/2011 2:15:00 PM
Immigrants are in the country legally Others are Undocumented foreign nationals And shouldn't be here Please stop calling Illegals immagrants
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"reporters" HAHAHA 05/01/2011 1:00:00 PM
I find it funny that they leave off the fact that its illegal immigration that they are talking about yet the reporter (and I use that term loosly for he/ she is Obviously not gathering nor sharing all the facts) fails to put that FACT on the headlinle. Is it that the "reporters" get more money by producing a headline story ( and forget the facts) or is it that true reporting has taken a back seat (and probably a padded paw) to a certain left leaning political view??? If you feel like me there is an area above write to editor copy and past this and send it too IT.
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Phxhikr 04/30/2011 7:40:00 PM
Right from the start, "pudgy and bespeckeled", typical left wing, personal attacks rather than substance. 1/3 of the officers killed in that period were killed by illegal aliens and that is not significant? If 1 of 26 officers killed were killed by illegals, that would be too many. To bad you don't have the qualifications to be a phx pd, maybe they would have taken care of you.
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patriot 67 04/30/2011 1:38:00 PM
when will the Hispanic community get it why do americans have to put up with illegal immigration when the very countries they come from don't do it ?this world would be a better place if every nation took care of it's own population at lease respect other nations laws.
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Azsafetypro 04/30/2011 1:29:00 PM
This is just another example of how the New Times is a major left-wing wack-job.
The first rule in writing is that in the first sentence, you draw the reader into the story. Here, this clown talks about Mark Spencer as, "Pudgy and bespectacled, with spiked hair and a voice described by one of his allies as akin to Porky Pig's, sans stutter, he hardly looks or sounds like a cop." Heck, Columbo didn't look like a cop, but he got the job done. Sheriff Joe doesn't look like a cop either, but I'd vote for him for any office he decides to run for. Why??? Because he GETS THE JOB DONE!
What part of ILLEGAL does this Stephen Lemons not understand? If someone breaks the law, no matter how absurd you think that law might be, they deserve to be punished for that crime. If you don't like the law, then go about changing it in a LEGAL manner.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the New Times. It gives me a great laugh every time I read it.
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Desertgater 04/30/2011 4:02:00 AM
Gee once again I almost read a full article by Stephen Lemons. Thank God that I had sense enough to see who the author of this tripe was before I finished the third paragraph. Like the MCSO, PLEA has more than more than enough problems and yes, Spencer seems to be at the top of that stink pile.
Yet once again we find an author who apparently was not raised in a household that was taught to honor law enforcement or laws of any kind and then hired by a newspaper that once actually printed real news instead of reaching into the landfill to find what garbage stinks the most so they can now publish it. Is it a wonder any longer that print media is fast vanishing from the face of the earth. It has to be writers like Stephen Lemons that accelerate the demise of this once great media, long live the internet!
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JesterJackson 04/30/2011 2:50:00 AM
And we are supposed to trust them to enforce the laws? All of them sucking at the teat of government with their double dips.
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Kathy 04/30/2011 1:56:00 AM
Lets blame all white women for the 'Real Housewives'. Let's blame all white men for Donald Trump. By the way I hope you don't hire anyone cheap to keep your children if you know what I mean...you better let someone white watch your kids. It's an old Palm Beach Florida problem....just read Hunter Thompson's book about how the rich bitch about their help. If we could just cut their tongues out like we used to so they don't tell how we really are.
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Kathy 04/30/2011 1:49:00 AM
Harmless police officers?
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power2ya 04/30/2011 12:50:00 AM
This guy is a greasy piece of shit and he and his family who have lived off his corruption should be arrested immediately and incarcerated in tent city...they can sit in the can through the summer until Sheriff Joe decides what to do with them. Isn't that what we do with scumbags here. Sorry forgot, that's what we do with people who don't or didn't have batches.
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Tom Seift 04/29/2011 10:13:00 PM
Likewise Dhcbic77. Come on, even Spencer's mother wouldn't see it this way. You are one of the afflicted parties. The article laid the wood to you, and now you're squealing like pigs. Pun intended.
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Ted Seift 04/29/2011 9:41:00 PM
"I'm not Steve Lemons" obviously is not Steve Lemons, He's a racist cop, who's probably either Mark Spencer or one of his clones. Go fuck yourself!
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Tommy Collins 04/29/2011 4:29:00 PM
Very few laws are actually black and white, including homicide, which allows police officers to kill other humans under certain circumstances. Those in law enforcement understand over time that there is the 'spirit of law' and 'letter of law'. Letter of law rarely applies...
So no, it's not all black and white.
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04/29/2011 3:04:00 PM
The week before Christmas I was hit by an uninsured immigrant who ran a light. Of course since he has no money and because he ran from the scene, there is nothing the police can do. So I am left with a wrecked vehicle and minor injuries. Made for a truly great Christmas.
As far as I'm concerned we need a viable foreign worker program which requires that taxes are paid, drivers have licenses and cars are insured. Schooling and medical are not free services in this country and anyone living here should contribute.
But unfortunately no-one here wants to be reasonable or responsible so the situation continues. Meanwhile I just noticed my property tax (south phoenix) is almost twice the amount my friends in Cave Creek pay because I am subsidizing, literally, the children of illegal immigrants who are apparently entitled to a free education.
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04/29/2011 2:35:00 PM
Is anyone actually surprised by this? I mean seriously.
www.real-privacy.eu.tc
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I'm Not Steve Lemons 04/29/2011 8:34:00 AM
Lemons is on a roll - burying himself and forging a forever untruthful "reporter" status.
One word you failed to leave out, Steve ol' boy....illegal. That's right...ILLEGAL. An illegal immigrant is breaking Federal law. It's really very black and white - no gray matter here. Unless of course, your rose colored, bleeding heart eyewear has blinded you.
Ciao Steve!
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Anon 04/29/2011 6:19:00 AM
You can't make this stuff up. Good reporting.
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NewkY 04/29/2011 5:44:00 AM
Fuck you. Spencer lies all the fucking time. The goddamn thing is full of facts. You're just too fucking stupid to get it.
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Dchbic77 04/29/2011 5:10:00 AM
I would have appreciated and respected current and relevant facts instead of personal attacks on Spencer and anyone he has ever known. Take issue with policy, attack it, suggest sensible solutions. However, this article was 9 pages of personal attacks peppered with twisted truths. Police need union protection and PLEA has done it and done it well for over 30 years. If there are members dissatisfied with their leadership they only have to vote to change it. I am dissappointed that there were 9 pages wasted on this tirade. Report current facts, don't ramble and grasp at staws and you may be considered halfway credible.
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Former Republican 04/29/2011 3:59:00 AM
Stephen, Great investigative reporting and the courage to write the truth amidst so much hatred and corruption. A great public service.
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Former Republican 04/29/2011 3:58:00 AM
Stephen, Great investigative reporting and the courage write the truth amidst so much hatred and corruption.
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Tommy Collins 04/28/2011 9:26:00 PM
Thanks, Truth. You made my day.
Ah, the memories... when I have days where I can still remember. It's a bitch getting old.
You may never know, but hey at least you know everything while you're still young enough to think you do.
Personally, I prefer Dunkin Donuts over Denny's.... (it's an old guy thing, just like the revolver).
Come by my house on your next shift and I will have coffee and donuts with you. I can tell you about the time I stopped Elvis Presley and had a shootout with the French Connection all in the same shift. Got two DUIs at the same time on the way to the department with my detainees....
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04/28/2011 9:20:00 PM
You are obviously unable to heed your own advice.
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04/28/2011 9:20:00 PM
You apparently lost interest at the second paragraph of a nine-page article.
That's where the physical description stopped. The rest of the article is about PLEA's mission creep from police union to anti-immigrant PAC.
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Tommy Collins 04/28/2011 9:19:00 PM
Larry, I'm just curious. How does one go about earning something like that as they grow up?
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Truth be told 04/28/2011 8:02:00 PM
Lemons I lost interest in your article. It appears all you know how to do is attack people's looks, voice etc. etc. Need I go on.
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Larry Hymer 04/28/2011 7:35:00 PM
Sometimes, if you can't say something constructive it's better to remain silent. Something you'll earn when you grow up!
Larry F Hymer
bigkehuna@cox.net
480.383.3013
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Hock 04/28/2011 7:19:00 PM
Sounds like the FOP has somebody's ear. The cops just need new PLEA leadership, not a different union.
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TruthGiveMeABreak 04/28/2011 6:10:00 PM
The "the Whistleblower protection law (ARS 38-532)? You mean the Phil Roberts Protection Act?
Lemons just posted something about how Roberts was selling the kidnap capital bull. And PLEA was lovin it:
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2011/04/mark_spencers_plea_supported_k.php
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Truthhurts 04/28/2011 5:48:00 PM
opps...
djsikorski.com then Ransom City
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Truthhurts 04/28/2011 5:37:00 PM
All true BS...or how FOP tried to use political pressure to stop the reform of the Whistleblower protection law (ARS 38-532) to allow local, municipal cops to be protected under it. Yeah, FOP wanted that "NOT" changed to have officers left out to the wolves reporting corruption. But it was passed unanimously by the state senate and and signed by Brewer this week.
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BS 04/28/2011 5:31:00 PM
Hmmmmm. I wonder how much is board fees the Firefighter's union recieves? Oh thats right, a whole lot more than the PLEA board members do. 20k - 80k a piece plus their salary from the city. Of course Mr. Lemons doesn't report on that. How about the fact that the FOP gave money to Kirk Adams and R. Pearce? Just keep spinning instead of reporting the truth.
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Truthhurts 04/28/2011 5:31:00 PM
@Flopez66 Here's your answer...it was all about money.
http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/officer-detail.p?corp-id=L16066846
ljsikorski.com - Click on Ranson City in the upper right hand corner and watch the video, then read the message on the bottom of the video.
This whole thing was about promoting a television program on HBO based off of the HIKE units activities. Millions were at stake. They were going to have characters based off of HIKE Unit Detectives and supervisors (the hero's trying to save innocent lives), the out of control racist County Sheriff (based on Joe Arpaio), politicians (Jan Brewer and the mayor characters)...the whole sheebang.
Just click on the links above. Where is the Newtimes story on that? Or the story on how the HIKE Unit boss made $241,000 in 2010, the same year the federal grant money was received...all on OT. Where's the Newtimes story on that?????
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04/28/2011 5:26:00 PM
"What crimes are going to be tolerated next? Harmless drunk drivers? Harmless prostitutes? Harmless drug dealers?"
We damned sure SHOULD be tolerating harmless prostitutes and drug dealers. Both are victimless crimes and so if nothing is going on except an exchange of sex or drugs for money between consenting adults, they are harmless and their activities should be decriminalized.
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Truthhurts 04/28/2011 5:19:00 PM
Awh the retired Colorado Police Lieutenant strikes again. You must have extracted your nose from Steve's ass to get a breath a fresh air and blog a bit. So here's Tommy Collins, one of those "administrators" more than he ever was a "cop," types who used to spy on the rank and file to make sure they were not one minute over their lunch time at the local IHOP at 2AM or surely it would be the start of an internal investigation.
Steve Lemmons is a yellow journalist and everyone knows it. I think its funny that he questions PLEA's reasoning behind SB 1070 - "Yet the union's obsession with immigration..." Is it really the Union's Obsession or your own obsession Steve? Just look at your articles. Over and over again - Joe Arpaio, Andrew Thomas, Jan Brewer, SB 1070 or Russell Pierce....and of course PLEA. Everyone a supporter of SB 1070 and 95% or your written diatribe on a weekly basis.
Steve touts the PPD's policy change on immigration contacts and that Julie Erfle supported it. Hmmm did anyone ever ask where that policy change was initiated from??? Why yes Mr. Lemmons, PLEA. - Yellow Journalism defined.
Yes, some officers have left PLEA but over the past three years because of disagreements. But some officers have quit, terminated, retired and promoted...not all left because they were unhappy with PLEA. And since PPD has not hired any new officers in years, its kinda difficult to get new members...Yellow Journalism defined yet again :)
And don't respond back Tommy by saying like you always do "You ain't got no balls because you don't use your name." When I become old, gray and wrinkled with nothing to do but surf the internet all day, feed the pigeons and get the ARRP discount at the local Denny's when I'm retired like you...we'll be more open.
In the mean time, don't try to speak for law enforcement out here, just reminisce in the "good ol days" when you were once cop and how you once arrested two drunk drivers in a single shift... NICE :)
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Tommy Collins 04/28/2011 4:06:00 PM
["Pudgy and bespectacled, with spiked hair and a voice described by one of his allies as akin to Porky Pig's, sans stutter, he hardly looks or sounds like a cop. His frumpy garb does not out him as a badge-bearer, either...."]
Add several ounces of oil daily to already dirty hair, and you have an immediate replacement for the Flaccid Fool.
The Republican primary for county sheriff in 2012 is likely going to be very crowded.
Here is one possible candidate:
http://votestauffer.com/votestauffer.com/About_Mike.html
This guy actually taught constitutional law at a police academy. He may also be able to read and write cogent thoughts. What a change that would be for MCSO....
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Tommy Collins 04/28/2011 3:56:00 PM
MD, I really wonder what degree of credibility you are trying to gain by attacking the messenger. Instead, why not try to debunk some of the facts included in the writing? Since it's not likely you have anything salient to add, perhaps you should wander down to 36th and Thomas on your next shift and pick on some of them criminal trespassers, eh? But don't call your sergeant for permission to contact ICE. Just follow the Spencer example and do it his way...
"Just the facts". Funny. You must see yourself as some kind of Joe Friday, eh MD?
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CardinalSin 04/28/2011 2:39:00 PM
Put a sock in it, Mdanthem.Lemons lays out loads of facts here. Like spencer trying to bribe t he mayor. You can't handle the truth
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Mdanthem 04/28/2011 11:27:00 AM
Steve you must not be a writer for this paper. possibly a guest as your writing spews venom for even the people who went to get an idea of what it was about. I see impartial writing is not possible for you and this makes you a bad writer.Just the facts Jack.........
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MrP 04/28/2011 6:58:00 AM
Spencer finally gets back to Lemons!
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Flopez66 04/28/2011 5:53:00 AM
I see your point about undocumented people being targeted for political gain, but I find it curious why no one seems to look at Phoenix Police for starting the whole kidnapping mess. Before Phoenix Police management and the so called friend of immigrants Phil Gordon started touting a kidnapping problem tied with immigration there was not the same amount of ill will towards immigrants. They started it and others used their misinformation to start an immigrant witch hunt. Now it is revealed Phoenix is not the kidnapping capital but the damage is done. Phoenix Police continue to try and spin their misinformation and hurt meaningful immigration reform. The worst is it looks like all of this hate was for money! Shame on you for not shedding light on the group who started this and continuing to defend Harris and Gordon as friends of immigrants, instead of the deceitful people who started it all.
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Former Republican 04/28/2011 5:37:00 AM
Great reporting.
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Fredlb 04/28/2011 4:35:00 AM
Remember how the Obama administration gathered up a few political police chiefs who had orders to badmouth sb-1070 so as to try and fool the nation that the police were against the bill.
Everybody knew it was a lie.
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peter g 04/28/2011 3:45:00 AM
great reporting guys hope everyone reads this
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Barfuckyounewtimes 04/28/2011 3:05:00 AM
Barf, Barf, Barf