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Montanog01 12/28/2011 10:07:00 PM
I think that you should know the whole story before critisizing. The mora kid only told what he wanted to say. But i guess thats ok for him to do that and lie about it.
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Dumoudan 10/01/2011 4:29:00 PM
Is this law Racist? Does it specify brown people?
Are the people who agree with this law racist?
Are those who want this law enforced racist?
The law says nothing of little "brown" people but it explains what is illegal entry. It's not very hard to understand. Why is this law "broken"? Why can it be selectively ignored?
Illegal alien includes all people who entered illegally, could be Croation, Russian, Chinese, Irish, Canadians and yes even Mexicans. No one single race or people is referenced in the law.
Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.
Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense. The language is pretty clear to me.
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Dumoudan 09/28/2011 8:03:00 PM
All Illegal aliens should be allowed to apply for work permits but only while they are outside the United States in their home countries. This type of program (guest workers) has worked very well for many years in economically successful places such as Switzerland, Singapore to name a few. Once their work visa expires they must immediately leave the country. If the females become prgnant, they are immediately returned to their home country. commit any violation of ANY law (even "J" walking) and they are deported. If they attempt to re-enter the US illegaly, they are automatically placed on a list of permanently banned from entry into the US. Are you with us?
Just enforce the Immigration Laws and treat all people who want to enter the US fairly. Don't show preference to those that entered illegally. Justice for all?
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09/10/2011 5:08:00 PM
Seal the border for law and order. Re-elect Sheriff Joe!
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08/27/2011 11:52:00 PM
Tangled web has tangled jeane into his web of idiocy. moronic comments like their's in defense of a pig are what let pigs like joe get away with this kind of behavior in the first place. Pathetic.
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08/27/2011 12:17:00 AM
What do you expect when you have a jerk like Stephen lemons writing the article.He makes PHIL GORDON seem like a choir boy.
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Jeane 07/17/2011 2:56:00 PM
I have an idea. Instead of the illigals getting free medical, free food and free living being paid for by those of us who woirk, why don't you at the ACLU pay for them. That would cut our defficet.
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Joemustgo 06/13/2011 5:32:00 PM
well we need another victory like this against arpaio and the city and even the state of arizona, i am dealing with actions by these agencies and their resources in the community including local church members, and even FACEBOOK is being used to harass me, by joe arpaio's personnel and these others, have you ever wondered, why people with authority such as joe arpaio, and the city personnel, and why they think they are so high and mighty, well today they are finding out, THEY ARE NOTHING.....its bad when the corporate central intelligence agency, pays them a visit, and says, "WE HAVE POWER AND OPERATIONS TO REMOVE THEM FROM OFFICES AND THE CORRUPTION WILL BE REMOVED BY US", seeing that all the persons of the local agencies, have forgotten their aoths, they will pay the price as a whole...the consittution is in place for a reason, for us as american citizens, to prosper and to live our lives, what we own the government cannot touch, what the government has taken from me, and so many others, will be taken back from those who are stealing from us, the officers invovled will be fired, replacements found will be trained better than they are now, and will respect the federal constitutional rights, the federal laws override anything any state law establishes, and elected officials powers should and will be restrained for the safety and preservation of our constitutional rights, finding of fedral agency members who have turned blind eye to these actions, finding the truth about arpaio adn his corruption his fraud his extoriton blackmail illegal surveilance illegal seizures, and of course his embezzlment that he has (not_) gotten away with..
society needs to stand up and fight the injustice, and violaitons of persons lives and rights
"WE THE PEOPLE", not hey joe,.......
and threats against my attorneys and harassments interfering with my interactions with my own attorneys, joe arpaio and city of phoenix tried to set up mediations, that would make me have to go through one of them to talk to my attorneys ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL and they found out that this matter would cause me to file additional charges, when they attacked me for filing lawsuits against them, and not only for civil constitutional and human rights violations, but when i was threatened by one of joe arpaios SRT captains, or whatever you call them, peopel with no necks, GOONS, and city personnel who have threatened me on my own properties forces me to file suits----for which then they harass and have attacked me for doing so, they said they would break me, WELL THEY DID NOT, THEY COULD NOT, THEY WILL NOT, what they did do, was, embezzled money from my businesses, they stole from me, illegal seizures, and even physically attacked me......
THEY HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEMSELVES, I HAVE PROVEN THE EMBEZZLMENT FRAUD ILLEGAL SEIZURES, AND THE FUCKED UP GAMES THEY ARE ATTEMTPING TO PLAY WITH MY POSSESSIONS BUSINESSES, AND MY LIFE......
I WAS TOLD, ------ STOP US THEN-------- AND YOU KNOW WHAT, ASK THE PIECE OF SHIT WITH THE HOLE IN HIS FUCKING CHEST FOR TRYING TO ROB ME, IF I AM PLAYING GAMES WITH THESE STUPID FUCKS OR NOT.....
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Guest23 06/11/2011 4:21:00 PM
Not speaking English is not a crminal or civil offense and English is not the official language of any state in the USA. So it really isn't an issue and in the long run doesn't harm you in any demonstrable way. So get over it.
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Guest23 06/11/2011 4:17:00 PM
It figures the best you can do is answer with a logical fallacy. It just goes to show how unreasonable you are when confronted with facts and evidence that chip away at your closely held beliefs.
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Slk602 05/27/2011 5:20:00 PM
Are you serious..You must support illegal immigration..You may want to go to back to school to learn how to spell..We need folks here to speak and spell English..Every single illegal immigrant needs to be deported..As well as all of the kids they have given birth to. Quit nursing off the tit of this country..Sherriff Joe is by far the best sherriff in the country..he is handcuffed by the federal government constantly and has to deal with many issues that should not be. I support him 100%. He is one of the few that stands up and support this state and this country unlike the weak folks. We need to put all the illegal Immigration supporters into a big database and pull the funding to support the illegals from your paycheck's. People sure seem to shut up when I mention this..Pony up if you want them all here..
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Anike 05/27/2011 10:53:00 AM
I support Sheriff Jo, The New TImes has had it in for Sheriff Jo from day 1. THe United States is a country of laws, which Sheriff Jo enforces. I got a job to support my family because of e-verify. An illegal immigrant was fired because of a fake social security number and now I can support my family, Anika H.
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05/26/2011 10:02:00 PM
Shortly after The Phoenix New Times revealed that Global Warming is in fact the fault of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, they also reported that he advised Sadam Hussein during the Gulf War, and was instrumental in causing the levees to break in New Orleans.
Where would we be without this quality of reporting (hint - we'd be better informed of other local news).
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Djhightek2000 05/26/2011 3:26:00 AM
I'm so very glad that someone finally stepped up to the plate and gave this Joe Arpaio guy just what he deserves for being a bigot though this isn't nothing to what he and his followers deserve for picking on these "Human Beings" if though they were Animals. I'm a proud Human Rights Advocate and I back the ACLU in this 100 and 10%. This world can not and will not continue to function off of Hate and Racism. We are always running off at the mouth about going after Terrorist but yet we are growing them every single day in this Country known as "The United States", NOT America but of it. It's because of "Hate Crimes" like this and that SB1070 why this Country is in a bind now. We are going through hard times in these United States because we are sending these Human Beings through them, Wake up and smell the Coffee because it's so many cups floating in the air with so many names on it, It's not even funny. It's very simple to bash someone but yet it's hard as the Devil to study this whole Illegal Immigration "Business" and see it for what it really is. I'm happy to live in a State where I see Immigrants and they are not being badly abused like you see in States such as Arizona. Think about how this look to our possible guest because me for one sure wouldn't want to visit a unfriendly State as such. This whole thing goes beyond what's legal and what's not. Politics use these Human Beings every last single Election to collect votes off them with their fake plans and deals. They don't want these Human Beings in this Country no more than some of the people with their on again, off again crap playing with these people feelings. Joe ain't the only one that need a taste of this. And for the person that called the ACLU a Terrorist Group, Just what do you think ICE, Boarder Patrol and those Minute Men are if they are not Terrorists in the flesh. You mention an so-called Illegal Immigrant ran over and killed someone but yet failed to mention that unarmed Immigrant that was killed in cold blood by a Boarder Patrol "Terrorist" simply for crossing this precious Boarder.
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Concerned Taxpayer 05/26/2011 3:00:00 AM
The powerful Victim's Rights agency in the MCAO's office has the money for victims. If victims are receiving their money then contact the Federal government who gives millions to these agencies. Where's the oversight and accountability on abuses of Victim's rights money?
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Anon 05/26/2011 2:56:00 AM
You ask about American teenagers - they are in the school-to-prison pipeline, either on their way in, in jail or on their way out. Once convicted they can't vote or get a job. That is what the mass industrial prison complex Arizona has been doing with the juveniles.
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05/25/2011 3:03:00 PM
It's apparent you did not even read the article before you spouted your ignorant mouth off.
Next time you have your rights violated, suck it up buttercup. Because that's basically what you are saying when you bash the ACLU.
And yes it's true we can't support the people we have, so it's good to have hillbilly's like you living in the back woods to keep costs down.
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ExpertShot 05/24/2011 6:21:00 PM
They pay payroll taxes and property taxes (even if they rent - the taxes are usually paid as part of their rent to the landlord), they pay sales tax, and most of that they don't get back. - It's a net benefit for us.
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ExpertShot 05/24/2011 6:14:00 PM
Rick - you only see the issue in black or white (or brown). The fact is that the "illegals" as you call them (there are in fact over 33 different categories of classification of extra-national persons who have "iffy" immigration status) don't cost the citizens of this fucked-up state anything. In fact, they contribute - overall - more than they take out. That is a well established fact (ask the Goldwater Institute folks - they know all about the studies on the economic benefits of undocumented workers to this state which show a small net economic benefit).
The fact that you can only see the issue as "illegals" tells me you're not interested in creating a resolution to the issue but only in creating division for political purposes. You think you can stir up enough hate against immigrants so as to confuse the potential voters into voting for your "anti-illegal" canididate. You and I both know that your "anti-illegal" candidate isn't against illegal immigration - their Corporate Masters NEED undocumented workers to increase their profits. These candidates are only interested in getting elected and then doing nothing about the problem. The fact is that the Obama Administration has done more than any other in addressing the problem - more border security, more immigration apprehensions, more removals, and yet you still stammer "illegals."
Why not study the issue a little more and learn how to effectively deal with the immigrants here in a way worthy of the great American People.
Here's a start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undocumented_workers#Structural_demand_in_developed_states
BTW - I hope you don't include your pious self in that "law abiding" crowd - nobody's perfect. I'm guessing you've traveled over the speed limit in an unreasonable and imprudent manner at some point in your life. Guess what, the law you violated at that time was far more important to public safety than being in this country sans proper immigration documentation or status.
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05/23/2011 7:43:00 PM
Whenever you see the words "victory for the ACLU", you know it's bad news for America.
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il capo 05/23/2011 9:10:00 AM
ahh, what does this have to do with the article about the Fourth?
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pioneer 05/23/2011 6:01:00 AM
when is the ACLU going to figure out that the United States can't support the people we have here already. There are not enough people working to pay taxes to pay for more illegals to utilize the resources we have. Why doesn't this organization spend as much time working to get these people into our country LEGALLY, instead of pushing the courts to force the governments of the states to welcome people here thru other than legal means.
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05/22/2011 11:59:00 PM
ACLU is a terrorist organization paid for by taxpayer dollars. Having them on your side is bad, very bad.
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232thom 05/21/2011 5:42:00 PM
Do the time to pay for your crime. What happened to the rights of their victims???? Bologna sandwiches (lucky they get meat) and water should be the only thing taxpayers should pay for.
"Repercussions for their crime!"
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pb 05/20/2011 8:34:00 PM
Wow, and you sound so inteligent yourself. This has nothing to do with skin color!!!! if you border neighbors where white it would still be illegal to come to America without the proper papers!!!!!! you sound like the idiot to me!!
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05/20/2011 12:27:00 PM
Well Put, ExUtahn...
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05/20/2011 12:25:00 PM
Another Arpaio nugget of shame from his scrapbook of STUPID violations of the rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS, and their LEGAL relatives...
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Anon 05/19/2011 2:49:00 AM
http://www.prisonabolitionist.org
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Anon 05/19/2011 2:42:00 AM
Prison Labor, USA: Martori Farms and the AZ Department of Corrections.
"It's come to my attention that the women from ASPC-Perryville who are providing the prison labor to Martori Farms are being coerced into taking the jobs by the guards responsible for recruiting them, and are reportedly working at times without water, sunscreen, adequate nutrition and full breaks, and without regard to medical concerns or age. Those who refuse the jobs or don't work sufficiently hard enough in the fields - or who even just complain - are threatened with being written up (a major ticket which can cost good time), or thrown into the hole.
The women are afraid for their health and safety; some are allergic to the bees they are harvesting, and others have been told to work through serious symptoms such as chest pain, still being dismissed as malingering - reminiscent of what happened to Brenda Todd and Susan Lopez, when they begged for medical care. They're presently working 8-hr days/6 days a week (not including the 1+ hour trek to and from the farm). Come harvest time, they've been told they'll be working 12-hour days...." prison abolitionist.org
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Anon 05/19/2011 2:29:00 AM
Female prisoners and forced prison labor in Arizona (2011)
May 2, 2011 ... I work on a work crew for Martori Farms. ..... in Georgia are striking due to being used as slave labor by that state's prison industries. ...
internationalprisonwatch.blogspot.com/.../female-prisoners-and-forced-prison .html - Cached
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Kriscasey1901 05/19/2011 2:20:00 AM
Tell it brother! Illegal immigration exists to get arround the retarded minimum wage laws (and for other reasons). Not every job is worth minimum wage. That's a fact. Jobs that people want done, like dishwasher, lawn care worker, etc. We wont pay the higher prices that hiring citizens would necessistate (and lets face it the quality of work in those jobs from the citizen classes is for crap, immigrants work their asses off) as a result business hire illegals creating a demand for their labor. If we just admitted these things we could have a guest worker program let them in LEGALLY AND STILL GET THE LABOR.
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Concerned Citizen 05/19/2011 2:13:00 AM
In Prison Reform, Money Trumps Civil Rights - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05...
excerpt: "Those who believe that righteous indignation and protest politics were appropriate in the struggle to end Jim Crow, but that something less will do as we seek to dismantle mass incarceration, fail to appreciate the magnitude of the challenge. If our nation were to return to the rates of incarceration we had in the 1970s, we would have to release 4 out of 5 people behind bars. A million people employed by the criminal justice system could lose their jobs. Private prison companies would see their profits vanish. This system is now so deeply rooted in our social, political and economic structures that it is not going to fade away without a major shift in public consciousness."
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Ajincali 05/18/2011 5:46:00 PM
Hispanic protect illegals because they can then abuse them.
Anyone who believe in illegal immigration is supporting the continuation of a Juan Crow society where there is an abuseable underclass in society. A group who has no protections under the law and no legal recourse for crimes committed against them.
Yep, that sounds like Liberal thinking.
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Ajincali 05/18/2011 5:42:00 PM
Sheriff Arpiao is a great man. He stands for the duly passed laws of our great state and nation. When the Federal government abdicated its obligation to secure the border it was Sheriff Joe who stepped in.
I am all for immigrations sweeps. I am all for imprisonment of illegals rather then deportation, and I am all for Joe Arpiao and a Nation made up of Laws.
If Hispanics citizens want respect and want to stop being lumped together with illegals, then they should be the ones calling Sheriff Joe about drop houses, illegals in the workpace etc.
But they don't, and they won't, because they do not believe in the laws of our nation, they only believe in what they can earn or steal in our great nation. This isn't racist like the author, this is a statement of fact about the Hispanic population (as opposed to ignorant redneck per the author).
More Liberal BS.
This paper should focus on what it is good at. Advertising marijuan dispensaries, strip clubs and hookers. Leave the news for those who are objective.
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Ajincali 05/18/2011 5:35:00 PM
Do you ever wonder why American teenagers can't find jobs? The answer is because illegals are taking the entry level jobs. For an illegal, anything close to minimum wage is a blessing. Byt these types of minimum wage positions used to be worked by American teens as a stepping stone to their first real job or college or trade school.
Illegals lower the wage for all workers. They are primarily taking jobs from young americans.
To say otherwise is a lie and propaganda.
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Ajincali 05/18/2011 5:32:00 PM
I loved the "Harmless Dishwasher and potatoe peelers". I guess committing no fewer then 3 felonies makes you harmless. Just because they violated our laws doesn't mean they are dangerous. Just because they commit identity theft daily to get a job does not mean they are dangerous. Just because they sponge off of our social services doesn't make them dangerous.
Hmmm...More Liberal-biased media BS. THey can decide which laws are important to enforce.
Elected officails be damned. Liberal authors like this one know better. Really?!!
If you are going to report news, then report news objetively. If you are going to write an editorial, then don't try to pass it off as either factual accurate or news.
This paper should focus on what its good at...namely advertising marijuana dispensaries, strip clubs and hookers.
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Ajincali 05/18/2011 5:26:00 PM
Once again...this article is so slanted that it should slide off my computer screen.
This is why NewTimes gets most of its revenue from ads for Marijuan dispensaries, strip clubs and hookers.
With writing like this, it is the only reason to read this rag!
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05/17/2011 6:02:00 AM
If you are a third generation to be born in the U.S. than you are a an American, not a Mexican... what the hell are you learning in school? Sounds like you have some serious issues with white people. also, The land in question was legally bought by the U.S. so it might have been Mexico but it is not now, get over it. Either be an American and respect the laws of this land or go be a Mexican in Mexico and cry all the time about how you have nothing.
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05/17/2011 5:59:00 AM
If it wasn't illegals the money would be much higher... thanks for dropping the wages...
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05/17/2011 5:58:00 AM
harmless dishwashers and potato-peelers......LAFAO... who are these people that call themselves reporters? What a waste of a paper and reading material... you know what, I think I might have some dog crap out back I can use this for....
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Gonzo 05/15/2011 5:15:00 AM
Yes Rick that would mean that your white redneck ass is not welcome there, and thanks for leaving.......
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Hardcorestudboy 05/13/2011 11:56:00 PM
Latinos are sick and tired of being grouped in with illegal aliens who flaunt US law and corrode American values. Sheriff Joe is a great man who is only enforcing the laws on the books. Undocumented aliens should be identified and repatriated to their respective homelands.
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malasangre 05/11/2011 7:50:00 PM
how can there be more to the story? they were charged with NOTHING. the stop was without cause another lawsuit
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malasangre 05/11/2011 7:37:00 PM
gilchrist you are a punk skank. dont forget to visit your child killer girl in the joint
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malasangre 05/11/2011 7:29:00 PM
the problem with your statement is they never had ANY reason to stop them. did you miss that part or just being obtuse?
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Zuniga Abelardo 05/10/2011 4:01:00 PM
majongwe
if mexicans stay in mexico who is going to work in the fields you are .Ha! ha! ha!
and make $7.00 pre hour ya right.
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05/10/2011 2:13:00 AM
Stephen, I don't know how much control you have over the headlines, but it's not a victory for the ACLU against Arpaio. It's a half-victory for Americans against Arpaio and his Buford T. Justice-style media whoring. The victory will see Arpaio before a grand jury taking the fifth more than a skid-row alkie.
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05/10/2011 2:09:00 AM
Whereas you would probably prefer all-American scumbags rob you. Steal American!
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Lonerodarte 05/06/2011 2:15:00 AM
Arizona WAS Mexico. And clear that up for me... see, I am Mexican, but third generation to be born in U.S., Where is it I belong, Hick? And where did your ancestors emigrate from....Ass Munch
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MAJONGWE 05/05/2011 2:34:00 PM
Mexico for Mexicans. America for Americans. Stay in Mexico and make it better then you won't have to come to America and deal with us hicks.
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Lifeflame 05/05/2011 9:58:00 AM
Years ago the ACLU represented the right to free speach of a Neo-Nazi group who sought the right to march in Parade in Skokie Illinoise (sp) The ACLU Lawyer was Jewish and was known in the Jewish Comunity and in Skokie itselt. He took a lot of flack for being their Atty (and perhaps look some satisfaction that these Neo-Nazi folk were relying on him to protect their civil rights when under Nazi Germany Jewish People and others were systamatically deprived of their Civil rights) The Atty percisted through all the hate mail and threats he recieved, loosing long term friends and having his family question his decision, and he won his case. Skokie was a town where many Holocost Survivors had made their homes after comming to America. There were counter protests when the Neo-Nazis had their Parade, with the counter protesters and the Neo-Nazis being kept seperate by some brave Police Officers. When it was all over the Atty made a comment that he was insired to tough it out because of the fact that in Our Country the Constitutional Rights extend to all CItizens, and that because of this Fact he knew that his Family and his People would never loose the Constitutional Rights they had been granted. At least One Survivor reported the Parade and Counter-Protest as being for him a positive expierence Because here in the USA he did not have to hide and because of his standing up to the Neo-Nazis by being part of the Counter Demonstration, he had asserted himself and he now knew that these Neo-Nazis had lost their hold of fear on him because this time he Did stand up to them.
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Lifeflame 05/05/2011 9:42:00 AM
BTW just an FYI for those not into history "Feet to the fire" refers to a type pf torture, a type that usualy was survivable for a long time, excrutiateing but survivable.
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05/04/2011 11:45:00 AM
Can't you read? Kit explained the facts well in his post, "They are, as a matter of fact and of law, simply in violation of a civil regulation more akin to speeding. The code speaks of "illegal, deportable, and excludable aliens" and virtually all the brown-skinned hard-working people you loath that are here without authorization fall into the deportable and excludable classifications." It's always wise to read what you are replying to before making yourself look even more the fool.
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05/04/2011 11:38:00 AM
And can you now prove it was an illegal who stole it or is that just your assumption? You are hilarious, holding the banks and credit card companies blameless and blaming illegals for every ill.
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05/04/2011 11:25:00 AM
The stupidity of you moronic nativists is stunning. The culture of the Southwest is Hispanic, since Spain had colonists here long before the English founded New England. Learn about it and appreciate it!
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05/04/2011 11:17:00 AM
Pot calling kettle black. Where did you get this bullshit about a search warrant. There was no mention of any search warrant in the article by Steven Lemons? Why would a traffic stop for no violation have a search warrant. You obviously Don't Know and are making that up as you flounder around making more and more of a fool of yourself.!
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PC 05/04/2011 5:54:00 AM
Dearest Kylee, you are a complete alarmist idiot! There are lots & lots of crimes that occur around identity theft that has NOTHING to do with undocumented people. And by the way, it wouldn't happen at ALL if AZ hadn't passed the dipshit law that prevents undocumented people from working & taking care of their families. You are scapegoating & demonizing people with no facts & a lot of racist bluster. God has an ironic sense of humor. May your next life be as an undocumented person being oppressed by a racist idiot like you.
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PC 05/04/2011 5:50:00 AM
Scottra are you that dense? Your statement is completely false. The majority of undocumented immigrants are not criminals. Being undocumented is NOT a criminal offense... it's a civil one. You're just stinging right now because....let's face it, your man Joe was NAILED along with his incompetent officers. Just admit it, you have racist beliefs that fail to take into consideration any of the history associated with AZ because YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. You also probably know very little about the economic convenience AZ obtained from undocumented worker exploitation. The fact of the matter is the majority of undocumented people have been living in AZ for years, stimulating the economy by buying food, owning or renting property, and trying to live their lives.
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Williamdefoe 05/04/2011 5:29:00 AM
did you read the article dipsh!t They didn't break the law (didn't break into a house) the were driving to work, musta failed reading comprehension
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Scottra57 05/04/2011 4:30:00 AM
the author is such a liberal jerk. I suppose he would just as soon leave thugs that broke into his house to rob him since they are illegal iimmigrants it would be ok.....
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Keytryclr 05/04/2011 4:04:00 AM
ummm... this is interesting.... Apriro? i find your comment very amusing.. since i dont understand a SHIT you say. To top it all 3 people like it. WOW i think people like you should be deported and traded for better educated people. JUST SAYING..
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Handyhelp11 05/04/2011 1:40:00 AM
Like the Good ol' Boys used to be. Still like that in the fourtune 500 companies. That's where u should get a job. Make sure you have a doctorate and skin like steel.
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05/03/2011 11:51:00 PM
Oh really Don't, MCSO does their illegal roundups at night while the normal workday is actually during daylight hours, you moronic simp. Perhaps you should look before you stick your clodhoppers down your throat. One day you will choke to death on one of your stupid lies!
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05/03/2011 11:44:00 PM
Maggy, Maggy, you are one dumb woman. Can't you read? These people were illegally arrested and detained by MCSO thugs. This will again cost the tax payers a hefty sum as Arpaio's total of claims rockets towards two hundred millions of our dollars. It is morons like you who keep voting for this criminal. They are a legal resident and his son a US citizen, yet you seem to be under the impression that because they are Mexican they have no rights and this decision will be overturned by an appellate court. Good God woman, get yourself an education and stop wasting netspace with your stupidity!
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05/03/2011 10:00:00 PM
You are so full of the bullshit fed to you by FAIR and the right wing echo machine that you don't know reality from your arse. Most employed illegals pay taxes dutifully, a lot more so than the average right wing tax protester. Your problem is racism, combined wit stupidity. You are easily led around by the nose by the nativist manipulators because you do read. The information is out there showing that illegals employed in the US actually are a net benefit to the country, not the huge drain FAIR and the other purveyors of hate feed you full of.
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05/03/2011 9:42:00 PM
So you feel compelled to give us your right wing spiel without ever reading the article. Thats the problem with you simple idiots, most can't read and if you can phonically sound out the text, you are incapable of actually understanding what all those words mean. yet you simps feel empowered to tell us all about how the world works according to Rushbo or any of the other Fox morons who fill your pea brains with mindless drivel. You are acomplete embarrassment to humanity. Fitting that your handle is a number, was that your inmate number?
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05/03/2011 8:39:00 PM
Rick, you are one dumbass racist hick aren't you little boychick crybaby?
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American Brown Person 05/03/2011 4:30:00 PM
Last I heard the Minuteman project was were they recruited killers like your woman killer friend..Chupame mis huevos..Soy Mexicano..People like you want to intimidate people with your guns but we are not in the wild west anymore stupid bigot..We are leaving in a country that supports freedom to all. I am an American and my rights can't be violated because of the color of my skin. If that woman who killed the daughter and father because of her uneducated sense of living amongst humans would have messed with my family she would have been 6 feet under already and I would have not used a gun, I would have used my bare hands..Wake up dam moron what because your a founder of a Neo Nazi like foundation you think you are better..
Sorry but a moron like you will only come back and pay off your karma in many other ways and trust me what you do to other humans will come back to haunt you back eventually if not in this lifetime in the next one guaranteed.
Sincerely,
American Brown Person
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05/03/2011 2:23:00 PM
Ja, Joe, machen alles kaput!! Jeez, is everyone in the valley on psych meds???
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05/03/2011 2:22:00 PM
I'm sure, Goober, that any place you leave is a far better place without you. I can't imagine anyone wanting to watch you gum your biscuits and gravy without using your hands to eat.
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05/03/2011 2:10:00 PM
When Joe Arpiao left the DEA, he left one step ahead of a federal investigation. His nickname in the DEA was "Dime bag Joe", because no matter how much of a volume of drugs he captured, he turned a "Dime bag" into evidence! Arpiao was a thief then, and is a thief now, the county supervisors need to look into the racket he and his entire family have at the Maricopa county jail. His wife runs the inmate store, which is a total ripoff to the inmates. One of his children or their spouse runs the laundry and clothing for the jail system. ho profits from these enterprises?
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Tommy Collins 05/03/2011 4:02:00 AM
Steven, some percentage of pension contributions belong to the employee and can't be 'taken away' regardless of what they are charged and/or convicted of. Just so you know...
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Tommy Collins 05/03/2011 4:01:00 AM
Steven, if the feds won't do their jobs, why are all the immigration detention centers filled to capacity? It's not likely they were filled by local and state agencies... ICE and Border Patrol stay busy doing their jobs... it's only MCSO that perpetuates the myth that the feds aren't doing their jobs... so the Old Goat will pick up some more votes, hoping to be re-elected.. if he lives that long.
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Kylee Goode 05/03/2011 1:41:00 AM
Keep It up JOE....did you notice all the US citizens that showed up when jobs became available. They ARE NOT HARM LESS FOR GODSAKE, THEY STEAL PEOPLES IDENTITY. UNLESS YOU HAVE EVER BEEN A VICTIM, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE GO THROUGH TO GET OUR IDENTITY BACK. Deport them all...
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05/03/2011 1:26:00 AM
Ever notice how when one gets in the door the next thing you see they are all mexicans in the place? When I walk in and it's all mexicans I walk out.
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05/03/2011 1:23:00 AM
Not near as much as the illegals have cost the legal law abiding citizens of this fine state...
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05/03/2011 1:21:00 AM
Should review this guy to see if he is legal. Go Joe. 70+% like you Joe and keep the raids going!!!
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05/02/2011 9:28:00 PM
I didn't read the article, but there are never any winners in law suits against local government, but the lawyers, and paid for judges by the ACLU. THE END!!! Oh yes, I forgot, appeal after appeal to come and more money for you know who. It's not the public. It might even be to an illegal. How would we know for sure? That's a rhetorical question.
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ExpertShot 05/02/2011 8:01:00 PM
Thank you Stephen, your insight into this issue is welcome. Please keep a close watch on the $100 million the Sheriff pilfered from two protected county funds. Joke Arpaio has cost the taxpayers 3-4 times as much as any supposed negative economic impact that undocumented workers have had over the same time period.
I know it would be a big project, but would you think about conducting a survey of what the actual economic pluses and minues are to our State of undocumented workers and then compare that balance (whether negative or positive) with the cost to taxpayers of Joke Arpaio's antics. A well researched article on this subject might be the basis for a class action lawsuit against MSCO for mismanagement of public resources.
I'd like to see all the people, including Arpaio, who profitted from this debacle brought to their begining income level before they started all this crap about "illegals." People should not be allowed to profit from their mis-deeds.
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Csmith4ck 05/02/2011 7:13:00 PM
So breaking state laws are okay, by your standard? Just as long as you deemed them "innocent potato peelers and dishwashers?" Does that mean that I could run red lights any time I want to? I mean, I am an innocent as they come. I have no criminal history. Ziltch. The law is there for a reason. When people break get, they should get punished for it. Short, simple and sweet.
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Tempest 05/02/2011 6:15:00 PM
If they were to become "Legal" Citizens then they would have that opportunity.
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UknoMe 05/02/2011 12:40:00 PM
Wow, you both have completely missed the point.
I will say it in simple terms.
By using name calling tactics, you lose the effectiveness of your argument. It does not matter that it is an editorial.
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UknoMe 05/02/2011 12:36:00 PM
If you happen to look at the start of my comment, I agree with his points. He just loses face and effectiveness on his argument by name calling. Very much like you.
What happened the days of Harry Reasoner and Walter Chronkite? Where news was told with a non-biased edge.
Metalarmor99 made a good point.....
"It's funny that in your article you exhibit exactly the characteristics of hatred and intolerance that you accuse Joe Arpaio of. So you're really no different, you just have a different target--those YOU deem as rednecks, bullies, etc. If you really despised the things you say you do, you would refrain from name-calling, stereotyping, and slinging hate-filled rhetoric. In other words, you render yourself ineffective by mirroring your nemesis. It takes true love of one's fellow to evolve beyond hate. Epic fail"
Just shoot straight without the name calling, you may find you will get more accomplished.
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Jonellejones78 05/02/2011 7:13:00 AM
They don't pay taxes that's why they busted all those fast foods joints paying illegals under the table, so how are they paying taxes? I'm very confused.....
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Jonellejones78 05/02/2011 7:11:00 AM
they don't pay taxes that's why they busted all those illegals getting paid under the table so that is a false statement.
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Metalarmor99 05/02/2011 5:37:00 AM
It's funny that in your article you exhibit exactly the characteristics of hatred and intolerance that you accuse Joe Arpaio of. So you're really no different, you just have a different target--those YOU deem as rednecks, bullies, etc. If you really despised the things you say you do, you would refrain from name-calling, stereotyping, and slinging hate-filled rhetoric. In other words, you render yourself ineffective by mirroring your nemesis. It takes true love of one's fellow to evolve beyond hate. Epic fail.
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E_e_castaneda 05/02/2011 5:05:00 AM
YOu mean the fact that they pay millions of dollars in taxes and social security that they will never get a chance to use themselves or receive any benefit from.
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E_e_castaneda 05/02/2011 5:03:00 AM
Arpaio is nothing more than a Arizona's own terrorist. He terrorizes thousands with his rants and bully like actions. I can't wait until the day he ends in jail, or peels potatoes for Pei Wei or McDonald's. He can take that job away from any teenager.
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concerned 05/02/2011 4:52:00 AM
harmless dishwashers and potato peelers all have someone else's ID. this is one of the issues of illegals.
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05/01/2011 9:30:00 PM
He can because it is called a editoral column ...your redneck is showing!
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Guest23 05/01/2011 9:30:00 PM
One problem is that many cops will ask for id from passengers who were not driving... and as I understand the law this is not legal since there is no probable cause to do so... but cops nationwide still continue to do so and get very pissed off if one asserts their legal rights
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05/01/2011 9:29:00 PM
Amen!! RC - illegals also come in white in fact the second largest group in Maricopa is Eastern Europeans - who look like you so I vote they stop you!
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05/01/2011 9:28:00 PM
another fine example
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Guest23 05/01/2011 9:21:00 PM
You have sense of logic whatsoever. Did you not graduate from elementary school? You don't even have a clue what racial profiling is. Reminds me of a time when I was in the deep south and my waitress had a very diificult time counting back my change. Frightening that some people can be so ignorant.
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Jason 05/01/2011 7:06:00 PM
Nonetheless, taxpayer dollars will be doled out to the Moras due to the stupidity of the MCSO shurf and his gang of corrupt miscreants. If you read the article, like I did, you would've read that Mora Sr. is a legal permanent U.S. resident and Mora Jr. is a U.S. citizen.
I will give you some credit towards your statement about the illegals though. You are correct.
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ClayMagnet 05/01/2011 4:24:00 PM
Dude, do you know what an "editorial" is? Do you understand the role of a columnist, or has your brain been completely fried by the Internet? Go read a book, for cryin' out loud.
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Rcgaard 05/01/2011 4:21:00 PM
racial profiling is nothing more that a lawyers piece of nothing.....ILLEGALS ARE MEXCIAN FROM MEXICO , PERIOD...HOW CAN YOU RACIAL PROFILE WHEN YOU KNOW WHO IS THE ILLEGAL. CRIMINAL....NEWTIMES HATES APRIRO, AND PROBABLY HAS ILLEGALS OR ILLEGAL FRIENDS WORKING FOR THEM
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UknoMe 05/01/2011 1:33:00 PM
You have made some great points Mr Lemons, but you have completely negated yourself with your type of reporting. Why not just report what happens, factual and true. Instead you pepper your report with sophomoric name calling, which just lessens what you have to say. Shame on you.
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Carolyn 05/01/2011 11:30:00 AM
GOOD DEAL! Arpaio has been out of control for a long time. Thank goodness for the ACLU, whikch stands up for the rights of ALL!!!!
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Rollem45 05/01/2011 4:45:00 AM
Well, heck while you are at it, just open your front door and allow the government to search your papers and effects.....