Ethnic Studies Equals Politically Conscious Latino Students -- Which is Exactly Why Its Enemies Want to Kill It

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Enemies of the Tucson Unified School District's ethnic studies program would have the public believe that a cabal of commie educators are teaching revolution in TUSD's classrooms.

The reality is not quite as sexy as this vision of young Patty Hearsts, Huey Newtons, and Bernardine Dohrns getting groomed with lessons on Marxism and Chairman Mao.

The battle is joined: Pro-ethnic-studies demonstrators outside a recent TUSD meeting.
Dennis Gilman
The battle is joined: Pro-ethnic-studies demonstrators outside a recent TUSD meeting.

Indeed, to listen to the likes of former state Schools Superintendent and current Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne, the primary pusher of the ethnic studies ban signed into law last year by Governor Jan Brewer, you'd think Tucson high school kids are learning how to hate whitey and make pipe bombs.

This is also the general line, BTW, that the Arizona Republic's official crotchety old white man, Doug MacEachern, who — like a lot of mean, ornery, tea-bagger-esque ofays — is genuinely terrified of young, intelligent Latinos, armed with facts and logic.

God forbid these young people ever grow up, go to college, and become Horne and MacEachern's worst nightmares: members of a new political establishment that will condemn theirs to a timely grave.

Recently, I had the opportunity to visit a Mexican American Studies class, something Horne has never done, despite his signing a "finding" that calls for the program's elimination.

TUSD Superintendent John Pedicone rejected my request to observe such a class in action. Via e-mail, his assistant cited "distractions, controversy, and end-of-year issues."

This is a new policy, instituted by Pedicone, who officially became superintendent this year. And it is part of a climate of fear that pervades the ethnic-studies teaching ranks. TUSD teachers told me that they're being closely watched by administrators, who are looking for any excuse to investigate them and retaliate. All on Pedicone's orders.

Which is why I will not tell you the name of the teacher whose class I sat in on or what school the teacher works in. I even have to be vague about the specifics of what was taught, because that would identify the class and the instructor.

I can tell you that MacEachern, Horne, and current state Schools Superintendent John Huppenthal, who campaigned, in part, on a platform opposed to the 13-year-old courses, would have been deeply disappointed.

Essentially, the students read a passage by a Hispanic-American author. The subject was self-empowerment, not the "victimization" that Horne and others believe is preached.

A writing assignment centered on this theme. Current events concerning the effort by some on the TUSD school board to make ethnic studies an elective were discussed. Several students expressed that if this were to happen, they would not be able to fit the class into their course load. The program would probably then whither away.

The teacher led the discussion but did not force an opinion on the teenagers. Other than the text and the subject matter, the class could have been any social studies or literature class anywhere in America.

Why do these classes exist? To answer this question, you need only look around the campuses and observe. More than 60 percent of TUSD's students are Hispanic. One middle school in TUSD is 92 percent Latino. In one high school, 71 percent of attendees are Latino. Another high school is 89 percent Latino students.

These are shocking numbers, and evidence that the U.S. Supreme Court decision of Brown vs. the Board of Education, which held that separate educational facilities for students of different races are "inherently unequal," has been effectively undermined by white flight and the rise of charter schools.

Tucson's ethnic-studies classes were the result of a desegregation lawsuit brought in the 1970s. There are also African-American and Native American courses, but Mexican American Studies is the largest of these disciplines.

MAS was created to address the disparity between dropout rates and low test scores of Latinos versus other students. The idea behind it is to engage at-risk students with history and literature that speaks to them and their experiences.

"The students see themselves in the curriculum," Sean Arce, director of the program, told me during my last trek to Tucson. "They see themselves as part of the American experience, as contributors to society."

Arce, who helped develop the courses along with the teachers involved, explained that the subject matter is the "hook" educators use to motivate the kids and get them reading and writing. Many of these students may otherwise have ended up flunking their courses or dropping out.

"The majority of our kids qualify for free or reduced lunch. So, they're at poverty level," Arce said. "According to the AIMS data that the district released, it demonstrates that they're the lowest academically achieving students coming into our classes. By the time they leave our classes, they close that achievement gap."

Even Pedicone, who was not available for an interview by press time, has conceded that the classes have resulted in higher AIMS test scores, a higher graduation rate, and a higher rate of matriculation to college.

So what's all the hubbub about? Right-wing blatherers, such as Tucson radio hate­monger Jon Justice of 104.1 FM, tell the nativist faithful that these Latino children learn to resent Anglos in the classes. That "American" history is not being taught, in favor of Chicano history.

To which, I would point out that Chicano history is American history. Chicanos are, by definition, Americans of Mexican descent. How can their history not be part of American history?

Up through high school, TUSD children are taught general American history. In high school, they can choose a MAS class to fulfill core requirements in history, government, and literature.

Do MAS students resent or hate white folk? Not according to the students I've interviewed, who've all been very open and intelligent beyond their years.

When I was in Tucson for a TUSD board meeting, where hundreds of pro-ethnic studies demonstrators and at least 100 cops squared off in what turned out to be a PR disaster for Superintendent Pedicone and anti-MAS board members ("TUSD's Tuesday Night Debacle," May 4), I talked with Julianna, a 16-year-old ethnic-studies student who doesn't want the classes to go away.

"People think it's a negative class," Julianna said. "Yeah, there were things that happened to our people, but we need to turn it into something positive and learn from that history and learn to love each other."

Regarding the MacEachern-Horne depictions that cast her and her friends as Mau-Maus in the making, she told me how every class begins with the recitation of a poem based on a traditional Mayan greeting called In Lak'ech.

"Basically, it means that you're my other self," she told me. "I love you because I love myself. If I hurt you, I hurt myself."

Other students and teachers I spoke with confirmed that In Lak'ech is commonly recited in ethnic-studies classes. To my ears, the sentiment pretty much parallels Christian teachings.

How does this jibe with the quote Horne plucks from the seminal Chicano studies textbook Occupied America, now in its seventh edition? In it, author Rodolfo Acuña quotes a speech from Mexican-American leader Jose Angel Gutierrez in which Gutierrez encouraged Chicanos to "kill the gringo."

Outside that contentious TUSD meeting, where seven people were arrested for speaking out of turn, I asked a young Anglo woman named Erin about the quote. Now a freshman at the University of Arizona, she took MAS in high school and said she didn't recall Gutierrez's speech ever being taught.

But she explained that a phrase such as that would be presented in the context of who said it and when, not as some sort of commandment.

"It's inaccurate to pick out one sentence in probably the 50 different texts you read each semester," she said. "[Horne's] just looking in the text from his perspective."

In fact, both Horne and MacEachern skillfully utilize McCarthyism as a tactic to bash ethnic studies.

In his finding against TUSD's ethnic studies, signed a day before the law actually went into effect, Horne slams acclaimed academic Paulo Freire, author of Pedagogy of the Oppressed, from which seniors in ethnic studies classes read excerpts.

Horne calls Freire a "Brazilian Marxist," which he was. He also was jailed by Brazil's military junta in the 1960s, forced to flee the country, and ended up a professor at Harvard and, later, moving on to Geneva, Switzerland.

If Horne had bothered to read and understand Freire's work regarding the philosophy of education, he would have realized that more than anything else, Freire was a humanist, and he was influenced by an intensely repressive political system, one that might well have killed him if he'd stayed in his native land.

Moreover, if you start excluding works of those influenced by Karl Marx, you'd have to rid your library of a truckload of modern authors: John Reed, Jean-Paul Sartre, and John Steinbeck, to name a few.

Ultimately, both Horne and MacEachern have taken an anti-intellectual stance, one described, ironically, in Freire's book.

Freire writes: "Education either functions as an instrument which is used to facilitate integration of the younger generation into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity or it becomes the practice of freedom, the means by which men and women deal critically and creatively with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world."

Do ethnic-studies teachers want their kids to transform the world for the better? Well, what good teacher doesn't?

Horne, MacEachern, Justice, and other angry white men are clearly threatened by young Latinos — actually, kids of all races — thinking critically and becoming active and involved politically.

By downgrading or destroying ethnic studies, they would rid TUSD of the gains it has made, making it quite likely that many of those at-risk kids will not achieve at high levels.

This recalls the days when some slaves had to learn to read in secret, because the their masters forbade it.

Not an exact analogy, but close enough.

As I write this, the Arizona Department of Education is preparing to release an audit of TUSD's MAS program, for which Huppenthal has ponied up $170,000. Many believe the audit will give him the cover to seek the program's elimination, something Horne sought by decree but that Huppenthal has wavered on implementing.

There's also a federal lawsuit brought by Tucson attorney Richard Martinez on behalf of TUSD teachers and students, which makes a convincing legal argument that the new ethnic-studies law is vague, overly broad, and unconstitutional. Martinez is close to filing a motion asking the judge in the case for summary judgment.

And school's almost out for the summer. This means more students to raise more hell over this repulsive attack on their education. The backlash already has begun.

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babosoff30
babosoff30

I have not seen any data that indicates the MAS program has improved schools performance. The stats ONLY refer to the MAS students, NOT the general population where the programs exist. A better measure would be to compare the graduation rates between similar schools one with the program, and the other without one. To state the great benefits of MAS students is simply NOT a good comparison. My guess is that most of those enrolled in MAS courses are already motivated students to begin with.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

All Illegal aliens should be allowed by Obwama to apply for work permits but only while they are outside the United States in their home countries. This type of program (guest workers) has worked very well for many years in economically successful places such as Switzerland, Singapore to name a few. Once their work visa expires they must immediately leave the country. If the females become prgnant, they are immediately returned to their home country. commit any violation of ANY law (even "J" walking) and they are deported. If they attempt to re-enter the US illegaly, they are automatically placed on a list of permanently banned from entry into the US. Are you with us?Just enforce the Immigration Laws and treat all people who want to enter the US fairly. Don't show preference to those that entered illegally. Justice for all?

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Ask a Mexican when he / she plans to return to Mexico to legally apply for a work visa to legally enter the US?Where in Mexico is Nicky Diaz Santillan? She was deported right?

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Developers son in Scttosdale was killed by a vehicle. Guess where the driver of that vehicle came from and what his legal status in th US is?

Latinos Rock!!!!
Latinos Rock!!!!

You Rock you found out the truth and told our stories....although even middle schoolkids can tell what's up!!! When all they're really doing is telling Latino history and things like that!!!

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Is this law Racist? Are the people who agree with this law racist?Are those who want this law enforced racist?The law says nothing of little "brown" people but it explains what is illegal entry. It's not very hard to understand. Why is this law "broken"? Why can it be selectively ignored?

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Is this law Racist? Are the people who agree with this law racist?Are those who want this law enforced racist?

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

If the 12,000,000 plus illegal immigrants had a political leaning towards the conservative republicans would the pro illegal immigrants group still help with amnesty? I don't think so.

enonimouse
enonimouse

Ethnic studies = students that cant do math or science

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

Here is an awesome link that shows real documents used in the class, I invite everyone to read some of this stuff and make your own decisions about this class, I am confident that most rational and moderate people will be very offended that this kind of teaching is going on with taxpayer dollars:

http://www.tu4sd.com/p/faqs-et...

Elias Serna
Elias Serna

Chican@s/Latinos (Raza) folks often don’t reply to Right Wing conservatives for three reasons: 1) because the Right Wing is quite often very inaccurate and erroneous in its accusations, 2) the right wing is malicious and insulting (you usually don’t answer a question in the form of an insult), and 3) the nature of right wing argument is often too irrational to contest seriously (as in the Right wing’s frequent shameless misappropriation of MLK Jr.). In other words, the Right wing needs much more help communicating effectively than the Raza. That said, Chicano Studies varies from state to state, school to school. Some basic tenets are common and should be basically understood by the Right. The biggest issue (in AZ at least) is versions of history. In the 1960′s the Eurocentric male-dominated mythic version of US history (and hist around the world for that matter), which privileged the status and point of view of the authors, was overhauled. New voices, especially the excluded, oppressed, marginalized spoke up (ie. women, Blacks, Indians, Raza, Vietnames, Third World peoples, working class, etc). In the US Southwest, Chicano historians re-wrote US history (revealed US invaded Mex, not the other way around). These histories change everyone’s world view and view of themselves. Arizona Republican leaders basically prefer a Raza youth that is ignorant and vulnerable, that will stay poor. They prefer a Raza prisoner (or vulnerable labor) to a university graduate: easier to control. That is also why they are financed by Prison industrialist (see Oct ’10 NPR report). Truth and self-determination are important to all Raza/Chicano Studies departments.

Steve
Steve

Buried deep in that garbage column is an admission from one of the students that they would indeed read quotes like "we need to kill whitey" - OH, but it's done in a non-biased way, just the quote, and then the students can form their own opinion. That's bullshit. Why would they quote from a racist scumbag animal like that? Would these hypocrites (Stephen Lemons included) be okay with a "white studies" class where the teacher reads quotes from Grand Wizards in the KKK - but without persuading the students to believe that way?? BULL. SHIT.

carlos
carlos

what goes around comes around you european american

guest
guest

I have been a teacher, and I can tell you a few almost universal truths about education:

1. teaching varies as much as the people who teach.2. teachers behave differently when there is an observer in the room, whether that means they are more careful in their word choice or whether they modify their instruction and methods completely depends on the teacher.3. students are prepped for visitors if there is any warning someone may be coming, sometimes to the point where they are pre-loaded with comments and 'observations'.4. some teachers present material in the most level, unbiased way possible; others will insert there own bias to a shocking degree given any opportunity. These classes should be an elective, not a requirement.

Frogmedic
Frogmedic

I think "ethnic studies" are nothing more than a waste of time passed down by minorities who have nothing better to do than complain about the past. I have had to take 3 different ethnic study classes in college (I changed colleges part way through) and the ONLY thing that those classes taught me is that its wonderful to be anything other than white and pretty much a crime against nature to be white. The text books we used crack me up. The entire books are about how we need to accept everyone regardless of their background and then the history of as many different ethnic (and sexual, religious, etc) groups as possible, except, anyone? White people. What does that tell students taking the class? That you really shouldn't be accepting of everyone, only those who get labelled a 'minority'. Down with whitey, they don't matter!

Teaching one way or the other, leaving out groups of people, regardless of who is doing the teaching and who is getting left out does nothing but PROMOTE distension among fellow Americans. The US is not perfect when it comes to ethnic, racial, religious, or even sexual differences. But the more we single out others, the more prejudice and hatred we breed in our children for those different than us. Quit being stuck on the past people and move forward. One of the reasons American society is so splintered is because so many people are still living in the past, still making huge deals about things that happened decades ago instead of focusing on the present and the future. Instead of accepting that yeah, we did treat others horribly (all races, religions, ethnic groups have some history they don't really want others to focus on, its human nature) and lets move on from that. We end up stuck in this continuous loop of kow-towing to someone because they are "different" in someway and then make those who we don't feel are "different enough" pay for the negative feelings of those who are "different". Anyone else see the complete idiocy of an entire nation following that pattern or is it just me?

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

Why is it one thing to teach history, and another to teach the history of one ethnic group? It's not as if the students are not getting the mainstream anglo-centric presentation in their other classes. These classes allow them to understand how it is they came to be where they are and what they can do to provision a better tomorrow -- and in so doing contribute to the greater glory of America. Further, what side do you think is missing in the Ethnic Studies program, and what is the basis for your thought? Is there a side that says "hell yes 'spics need being discriminated against?" As Lemons observes and reports, these classes don't generate the hate those who oppose them falsely claim.

It is also odd that you equate teaching history with a deliberate effort at genocide. Perhaps you could clarify your position, because I truly have no idea how you could reach such a conclusion. Seriously, how is teaching about conquest the same as committing that conquest?

Finally, how does an observation report about what actually is going on in an Ethnic Studies class demonstrative of prejudice? What specific prejudices do you think the PNT holds?

Ultimately, what has happened here is that those who want to use Ethnic Studies as a political tool have deliberately lied to you. Rather than deal with substantive issues like jobs and tax reform, they distract you with the demonstratively false claim that evil Marxist teachers are creating havoc.

If the lies were true, I'd join you. But at the end of the day, they are just lies, as reporting has conclusively proved. Let's test your conscience: pretend for the moment that you accept my position that these classes simply explain the Hispanic history and that as a result the students come out inspired to learn more, to do more and even more patriotic for the experience. If what I say is true, would you support Ethnic Studies?

If your answer is "hell no," then there is some more going on inside your heart than just concern for America. If the answer is "maybe, but I don't believe you," then I would ask that you take the time to look for hard evidence -- including the observations of those who, unlike Horne, actually took the time to attend a class, talk to a teacher and observe the students.

I trust you are a good and decent human being and that you'll do the right thing. After all, WWJD?

ChuckL
ChuckL

More liberal BS from the New Times.

David Reed
David Reed

There are real, authentic, credible videos of something else going on in those classrooms. You can call it whatever you want but until you explain the videos you're just full of it. Also are videos of the protests, just as revealing. I see brats who need counseling and a program with it's teachers that need a permanent pink slip. Reading communist revolutionary poetry because it was written by a Mexican is what everyone has the problem with. There are other ethnic examples that don't victimize the students. The people responsible for this are monsters that deserve the strongest censure. Not with our children you don't.

hisnicptry
hisnicptry

The fact is that they have been trying to RECLAIM the SOUTHWEST doesn't matter to anyone are you kidding me? THE JIG IS UP! We have PROOF it's rampant and to use these people to train those for this is disturbing and scary.....thankfully we have video and proof so no more of this foolish and dangerous bunch of freaks that are hurting all of our future.....simply hateful of the NEW TIMES or a ploy to get us to see it....hard to say..but I have SEEN them trying to erase the CONSTITUTION and poof there goes AMERICANS freedoms.

Ask Tom Horne and he is a HARVARD lawyer and the AG and thankfully the decent society of All races sees this as a very nasty trick and SAL REZA will BE SHOWN to be a real dirtbag.

GUEST
GUEST

Why are you all spreading lies... the board in Tuscon is NOT trying to shut down the class...they are simply trying to make it an elective!!!! Typical liberal playbook...trying to put out lies to create more of a mess than there really is.. The kids are not even speaking on their own.. They have a college proff telling them what to say, writing the speaches for them, and hiding in the back ground! And guess what..I GO TO SCHOOL THERE!!

Bckennedy1313
Bckennedy1313

Another politically correct article from a lefty loon paper. Ethnic Studies equals voluntary segregation from American Values and American Society you idiots. Smoke some more pot and see what other ridiculous articles you can write while your baked.

John_k40
John_k40

Mr. Lemons, your article is one. Really, from one set up class observation you can discern what these bigots have been teaching for the last decade or so? They have you right where they want you. Do a little more research, and stop writing suppositions and your opinions with no real information or investigation. Journalists are so damn lazy these days.

gypsydave
gypsydave

Let these folks [illegal aliens] learn about these things in their own country. All they learn here is how to break laws and to insist on special treatment.Are you ready for another border war???? Keep invading my country and se what happens to you.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

All Illegal aliens should be allowed to apply for work permits but only while they are outside the United States in their home countries. This type of program (guest workers) has worked very well for many years in economically successful places such as Switzerland, Singapore to name a few. Once their work visa expires they must immediately leave the country. If the females become prgnant, they are immediately returned to their home country. commit any violation of ANY law (even "J" walking) and they are deported. If they attempt to re-enter the US illegaly, they are automatically placed on a list of permanently banned from entry into the US. Are you with us?Just enforce the Immigration Laws and treat all people who want to enter the US fairly. Don't show preference to those that entered illegally. Justice for all?

Slitzy
Slitzy

Good luck with your "Studies" degree...You sound like you've bought this b.s. hook, line and sinker.

Yes, I am making fun of you and your race baiting victimhood. Nobody gives a fig what color you are. You will be judged by what you do with your efforts. Act like a squealing victim? Going to be a rough road for you. Have you noticed that the gravy train of federal $$$ is drying up? These 'oh, so special' studies programs will be the first to go.

And, one last thing, Arizona Republican leaders basically prefer a "youth" going to a state univ. to be a citizen. Just fyi.

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

I see, so completely innocent modern european-americans should pay for "crimes" that may have occurred in the distant past by giving preferential treatment to non-whites who have never been the victims of said "crimes" in the first place? You don't see anything wrong with this logic? Moreover, a great mind once said: "an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind." At some point we are going to have to leave the past behind and move forward, ethnic studies just keep us mired in the conflicts of the past.

Frogmedic
Frogmedic

Ethnic studies nowadays have merely become another way for certain groups of people to make a stink in society and garner the attention on themselves. The US does not have a perfect history, our history books were focused on white people for a very long time. Which was wrong since America has always prided itself on being a 'melting pot' for people all over the world.

But since when does two wrongs make a right? Certain people are in an uproar because the text books used by American children are focused too much on white people. So how is a class that is focused on everyone but white people any different? Is it okay for the minorities to do but not for whites? The whole concept of 'ethnic studies' in itself is prejudice and not at all moving away from the very thing that the supporters of ethnic studies state is their mission - making things equal.

Revamp the text books to include everyone who made this country what it is today, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, etc. But that would be fair and for as much as people scream about things being equal and fair, in 'ethnic studies' nothing is equal and fair. Its merely promoting more decades of tension and problems between various ethnic, racial, religious groups in the US. There can never be true equality as long as one side is putting down the other side to make themselves feel better.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

Links to videos please.

Not that I'm saying you are misinformed, but given the frequency with which those on your side of the debate are proven to be liars, one has to be careful.

So, please, give us links to the videos. I promise I will give them my full attention and, if they show what you claim, will join your side of the debate.

But I have to ask: what is so wrong with reading communist poetry? Is it wrong to expose our children to diverse ways of thinking? I think the greatest value can come from it, particularly with communism.

Communism, you may recall, is the perfect Pollyanna political ideology. To each according to his need, from each according to his ability. It is the type of politics Jesus would want, if Jesus did politics. Trouble is, people aren't nice and communism, and its inherent lack of rewards for exceptionalism, causes mediocrity.

In teaching communist poetry we expose our children to some of the more Hobbesian aspects of the real world. We encourage them to consider how to be compassionate (dare i say conservative) while appreciating the value of a capitalist market.

Your opposition to exposing students to diverse thought is why your side of the debate is frequently called anti-education. Sure, you want kids in school, but only if the school teaches them an prescribed view of the United States. For the rest of the world, that style of teaching is less about education, and more about indoctrination. To this, I plainly state - NOT WITH OUR CHILDREN YOU DON"T!

I am also deeply puzzled by your extreme black-and-white thinking towards the teachers fo these classes. Do you genuinely think they are out to harm these children, to harm America?

Is there no possibility that decent people with good intent may have different approaches, even where one approach, argumedo, unwittingly causes harm?

I think your side of the debate is comprised of decent people to whom so many lies have been told they react as any rationale person would - because if the lies are true, then damn-it, heads should role. Unfortunately, we too frequently learn the claims are just lies. We learn the lady at the school board meeting deceived us, that Horne's investigation was a sham (never once attending a class or interviewing students!), and that these students, whom you call brats, so love this country that they enlist in the military at a higher rate than their Anglo counterparts.

If the classes were teaching hate for America, they would get a big fail, as do the anti-education forces that seek to close them down.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

I, too, have a graduate degree from Harvard, albeit it is not where my JD was awarded.

Can you please be specific?

What Constitution has whom tried to erase? What freedom is placed at risk by teaching Ethnic Studies?

Where is your rampant proof that these teachers are doing anything nefarious? What specific trick is whom tying to pull? What jig was attempted?

Again, please be specific. Please give proof, not simply naked allegations.

As we too often learn, the anti-illectualism side of this debate simply makes up claims and then refuses to give any substantiation.

I trust you are a decent and thoughful person and will readily share your sources for your considered opinion, right?

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

Half-right. The new proposal is that the board will turn it into an elective, another is that it be a no-credit class. Before, the board's position wanted to kill it. Horne, who is not part of the Board, wanted it killed when he was Sup.

But let's be honest: the Board still wants to kill the program, it is just making a political concessions at this point. They have elected for a battle of incrementalism having learned they can not simply eliminate the program by fiat.

As such, it is not a lie to say the Board wants to shut down the class. That is what it truly wants, as its members have repeatedly stated.

Were you an Ethnic Studies student, you'd understand what it means to put claims into context.

Legtingle
Legtingle

It's not much of a "paper". Just an add carrier for sex for sale and now med mj.

It's pretty funny to pick up when you have nothing to read at lunch....Start off with the '70's softcore porn American Apparel ad on the front cover then it goes down from there.

Cover story is always OUTRAGED about something. If you have nothing to read it can be pretty funny.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

One class visit it still an infinite number of visits more than zero: the number of visits Horne made.

Rather than call on Lemons to do more research, why not show off your own skills at navigating the virtual stacks and give us chapter and verse on why you think these classes are bigoted and have been for at least the past decade.

You formed your opinion for a reason - right? You examined a variety of sources, including those counter to your present position, and then reached an informed, cogent position - right?

So, don't just state Lemons is wrong, prove it. (or not, up to you ...)

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

Uhm, okay, but what about the overwhelming majority of students who are US citizens, who find these courses informative and inspirational?

The only race war being pushed is by the likes of you -- while these classes teach love of self and others, you project upon them your desire to engage in bloodshed.

Sorry to disappoint you: no race war is coming, no matter what your local clan and skinhead leaders tell you at your meetings.

Thank you, however, for posting. At least you are unabashed in your hate - something Horne tries desperately to hide.

Why anyone would want to be on your side of this issue is recondite to me.

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

Here is a link to a video showing the atrocious behavior of those who support this program. The worst thing is not the behavior of the students per se, it is the behavior of the instructors egging them on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Here is a video that shows some of the curriculum along with video of the students espousing the hateful views that they have learned in these classes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

But here is the crown jewel, a video project entitled "Decolonize and Reclaim" created by students of these La Raza classes in Tucson along with some previous students from the UofA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Legtingle
Legtingle

If these kids need inspiration (!) an elective class should do the trick.

It is rich that a smarty pants from Harvard (bwhahahaha) is pointing their outraged finger at the right about incrementalism.

You are a hoot.

John_k40
John_k40

Parents in Tucson, Arizona, are beyond disgruntled over the content of a anti-capitalist, anti-American textbook used in an ethnic studies curriculum for grades 3–12. At a Tucson board meeting on May 10 (picture, left and video below), parents articulated their anger over the curriculum’s content, and read aloud excerpts from the controversial book.

You think theae parents are wrong and Mr Lemon knows it all? If these so called educators want to teach anti- american anything let them do it anywhere other than america. We cannot continue to spend valuable tax dollars supporting this BS.

legtingle
legtingle

You are either very young or just silly.

These "informative and inspirational" *cough* courses should not be taught in a U.S. public school. If you want inspiration, you can find it. Lots of U.S. taxpayers do not care to fund it.

This silly useage of the word "hate". I do believe that came out of that fabulous inner city ghetto culture. It is over used and mis-used. Because somebody disagrees with you does not mean they hate you.

anonymous
anonymous

@maxonepercent I watched the crown jewel, and I don't see anything wrong with it. If you feel that the outrage is justified, as I do, this kind of civil disobedience seems worthwhile and just.

Legtingle
Legtingle

I went to the link and read the material.

I suggest others do.

Glad they are shutting this silly race baiting crap down in TUSC. Well...if it is no credit? Who cares.

Maybe a Unicorn will come sit in the classes and add to the inspiration!

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

As Lemons demonstrates - the woman in the video is lying.

Follow this link: http://bit.ly/kEylQB, it gives the full material, not the select hyperbole Horne's minions crave. He gives context, and he gives you the ability to fact-check his work. None of these are done by the anti-education historical revisionist whose position you seemingly accept.

In short: you were lied to. If the lies were true, I'd join you in being upset. But they aren't. You got suckered. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Are you willing to be fooled continually by these people?

The claims made at that meeting are demonstratively false - and they were made just to get decent people, such as you I imagine, upset. If they lied to you then, what other lies do you think they have spread?

I encourage you to do some true research. Don't get caught up in a mob mentality. Don't trust me, trust you own mind, provided you are willing to do genuine research.

I have faith in you, don't let me down.

Bckennedy1313
Bckennedy1313

It is apprent at this point that any intelligent discussion with Kit Carson cannot happen as he is content to speak in platitudes and fails to be pragmatic in his analysis.

Nursemomski
Nursemomski

And I might add proud to be a first generation American on my father's side and third generation on my mother's side.

Legtingle
Legtingle

I'm betting $$$ it is the La Raza doctrine.

Silly me.

Legtingle
Legtingle

I know plenty about these courses.

I went to HS in Phx that had some. I was subjected to one. Beyond stupid...but with that, a huge load of anti-American hate and "whoa is me" victimology.... And the cherry on the top: We will take back "our land" and detroy you evil white devils. Nice!

And...I think you are mocked, deservedly, and will continue to be for as long as you spout your angry, anti EVIL WHITE PERSON, victim crap.

Oh, and just as a personal tit for your tat: You sound just one rung higher than Oswald Bates on In Living Color.

Legtingle
Legtingle

Well at least you are now a "fan" of Bush. Funny, you.

Nursemomski
Nursemomski

A. Religion is a large part of my life and am not offended by your interjection. As a matter of fact, some of your postings lead me to believe that you are a man of the cloth. B. Latinos in America is only a part of American History. What if the Irish, Italians, Polish, Africans, Germans etc. all wanted to know about their ethnicity in American History? Schools today are teaching “comprehensive” history. All children need to learn American History, the good and the bad parts, which made this country GREAT and a place many have only dreamed of living in. C. As the product of both public and parochial institutions from K-college, as are my children, we have had “decent” instructors that "ran the gambit" from ultra conservative to admitting they were marxists/socialists. In several cases papers were graded on contextual point of view rather than point made in clear, concise, fact backed information. As a registered nurse, I have worked from inner city Detroit to a high rent district here in the Phoenix area. I have been called and treated many different ways, I have never allowed how I was talked to or treated to form a prejudice toward an entire ethnic group. Just for the record, I am a retired, Caucasian female.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

What an amazingly ignorant statement. No wonder you are perceived as anti-education.

Americans don't want to fund inspiration? That is exactly what we want from our educators. Those of us who have gone on to higher education from backgrounds of limited means invariably can point to some teacher who provided inspiration. Culturally, we make heroes of these educators in our media, most notably the number of movies made out of real life stories.

In contrast to your belief that teachers should simply indoctrinate students with rote lessons, American wants and needs students capable of critical thinking who are daring enough to achieve beyond that which is expected of them.

Your mode of thinking is within what GW Bush called the "soft bigotry of low expectations." Inspirational educators assist students to break out from the average, from the status quo, from the expected.

And that is precisely why Lemons claims people like you fight against Ethnic Studies. He contends you don't want inspirational teachers helping dirty 'spics be anything more than a replacement worker at the janitorial company.

Nothing you have written to-date proves him wrong.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

But that is what they are being taught - the history of Latinos in America. That is American history. That is our history.

You falsely assume these kids need instruction on how to be an American. They don't because, for the most part, they already are.

Learn what these classes are about before you try to shut them down.

As for the teachers, you make the allegation that they are trying to indoctinate the studetns, but you offer no proof. What doctrine are they trying to embed and how do you know, for a fact, that is what is going on?

I inject religion because it is something that deeply affects my worldview, as I have found it does for many. I'm sorry that religiosity offends you.

Nursemomski
Nursemomski

Personally I don’t consider them “decent” educators, they are more leftist leaning people trying to indoctrinate our youth. This is the type of course you will find in colleges not in grade and high schools. If people come to this GREAT COUNTRY they should be taught OUR history and customs and how they came to be. Do you think I could move to any other country and expect to have my children to be taught American History and Civics? Also why do you keep throwing religion into this? By the way my children are all grown and I thank God I don’t have to raise children in the environment we have today!

C. Carson
C. Carson

Your comments communicate a most offensive form of hate. So, I have to ask: if you don't have hate in your heart, then why do you have hate in your writing?

You know nothing about these courses, yet you come here to make demonstratively false claims, to mock those who think opposite you and to disparage the good work of decent educators.

We only know of you what you write, and right now you come off very poorly.

 
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