How an Underage Illegal Immigrant Became One of the Valley's Hottest Tattoo Artists

Andrick Aviles is a tattoo artist who makes house calls.

Over the past three years, he's dropped in on famous people like Arizona Cardinal Adrian Wilson and former Phoenix Sun Amar'e Stoudemire. When he doesn't come to their houses, they go to his — a modest, ranch-style house in central Phoenix with a red Radio Flyer wagon on the dirt lot out front and a spare bedroom converted into a home tattoo studio in the back. It's a little unorthodox, but it's not just because Aviles was 16 when he started tattooing.

It's because illegal immigrants need to stay in the shadows.

Aviles tattoos former Suns star Amar'e Stoudemire.
Courtesy of Andrick Aviles
Aviles tattoos former Suns star Amar'e Stoudemire.
Aviles' tattoo of 
The Last Supper
Jamie Peachey
Aviles' tattoo of The Last Supper

For a few months last year, Aviles worked under the radar (and under the table) at a tattoo shop in Glendale. "I worked at a shop before," he says on a Wednesday evening in mid-May, while shading a tattoo of a client's father. "And they didn't care about paying me under the table. I mostly just work out of my house now."

He gets jobs via Facebook, his Tumblr page, and word of mouth. He's tattooed most of his immediate family and high school friends. Then he tattooed Earl Clark (then with the Suns, now with the Orlando Magic) and Clark told his friends. Soon Aviles' client list included Clark, two Arizona Cardinals (wide receiver Early Doucet and safety Adrian Wilson), Cincinnati Bengals tackle Tank Johnson, and Stoudemire, who's now a New York Knick.

That's quite something for a working-class kid like Andrick Aviles.

"We went to Amar'e Stoudemire's house in Chandler a few times — it was a big house — and there was a different car out front every time we went there," he remembers. "The first time, there was a Bentley, then a black Lamborghini, then something else. It was crazy."

Aviles tattooed a large number 3 (an homage to Stoudemire's third child) on the 6-foot-10 basketball player's left forearm. He recalls that a woman rubbed numbing cream on Stoudemire before Aviles started working. "I've never seen anybody else do that," he says with a smile.

Among Aviles' many fans is artist Sage O'Connell, who's been tattooing for almost 20 years and owns both Urban Art Tattoo locations in the Valley (one in Tempe, the other in Mesa).

"I had a kid come into the shop and tell me about Andrick's work and show me his Tumblr page," O'Connell says. "His work is great. His portraiture and black-and-gray work is phenomenal. The kid's really talented. He's going places."

Soft-spoken and baby-faced, Aviles is a renegade prodigy. He's been drawing since he was 4 and tattooing since he was 16. When he turned 18, he could have easily gotten a job in a tattoo parlor. But being in the country illegally made that tough, so he's had to work out of his home.

Turns out, that's illegal, too — a class 6 felony under state law. Arizona does not heavily regulate the tattoo industry and doesn't require individuals to possess any kind of tattoo artist license, but the city of Phoenix governs tattoo parlors through a special permit process. The shops are then responsible for making sure they meet health code requirements, like using clean needles and sterilization equipment used by medical facilities. And it's illegal in Arizona to tattoo anyone under 18 without the presence of a parent or legal guardian.

Aviles chuckles at the idea of asking somebody for their identification in his spare bedroom. He doesn't have fancy sterilizing equipment, so he uses only disposable needles and tubes that are sterilized and medically sealed, using new ones for every tattoo. He also wears latex gloves, which he changes frequently. To get more jobs, he charges about a third less than he'd be getting if he worked at a shop, and he gives steeper discounts to his friends.

There are so many things Aviles wants to do here as a tattoo artist that are so much easier with a work visa — like participate in tattoo conventions, maybe get a guest spot on a reality show like Miami Ink or L.A. Ink, legally work out of a shop, maybe even run his own. He's had a long time to think about it.

The Aviles family came to the United States from Mexico, planning to stay for three months. That was 18 years ago.

Andrick, his father, Armando, and his mother, Yolanda, began the process of trying to get permanent U.S. residency two years after they arrived in Phoenix from Mexico City in 1993 to stay with Yolanda's brother, a U.S. citizen.

New Times has followed the Aviles family since February. No one in the family's been back to Mexico or seen their extended family in almost 20 years. Armando has been painting houses for decades but can't get a contractor's license. And after waiting 16 years for an interview with immigration officials, the family came up a few thousand dollars short of their required fines and fees earlier this year.

For Andrick, who was 2 when his family moved here, life in Arizona is all he knows. He says he doesn't remember anything about Mexico; he's never visited. Like many young American kids, he likes classic rock, brand-name sneakers, riding his bicycle, and going to the mall.

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Yaya
Yaya

this is the only kid I recommend for tattoo's. on his way to becoming a legend with his work. Read up!

J.X.O.Phx
J.X.O.Phx

1. They'd pay taxes if the process wasn't so long and burdensome and expensive to become a citizen.

2. You should talk to your government about taxes.

3. You should talk to your government about taxes (yes repeated on purpose).

4. Sales tax is a tax.

5. Though you think you may know, understand, and slightly emphathize with the circumstance, you really have no idea of the complexities.

6. Think about it. People want to live a good righteous, fear-free life, why the hell would they intentionally avoid paying taxes.

7. At the end of this story, all you really thought of was that they didn't pay taxes????

Jamesaz51
Jamesaz51

hes worked under the table all these years.i cant believe thay got away with out paying taxes.or even living in the united states.thaty should take the home for his back taxes

Frustrated
Frustrated

I'm glad they got their legal residency. But I'm sick and tired of all the illegal immigrants blaming everyone but themselves. Hey kids, wanna get an answer to why your life is so hard? Ask Mom and Dad! They made that choice for you. At least these folks have been trying to make it legal....unfortunately, there are too many who really don't care about trying. They just want us to change and allow them here, because millions have forced themselves illegally into this country and now demand their "rights."Here's another thing. They have been here for EIGHTEEN YEARS and the mother doesn't speak english??? But now that she's legal she wants to learn and wants to teach preschool??? Why hasn't she felt the need in 18 years to learn the language? I'm sure her lack of the language just put more of a burden on the father, as she certainly couldn't help her english speaking children with their education, homework, etc. Give me a break.

tr7fan
tr7fan

theyve been here 18 years and she wants to learn english better? one owul d think in 18 years theyd all be able to speak english i really dont understand how someone can come here illegally and stay here while they try to become citizens.

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AZChik65
AZChik65

LOL..@ Editors of the Newspaper". Well..im guessing he used someones identity if he was illegal to be in the USA. There for screwed someones taxes and life up.Everyday someones attitude changes toward the immigration debate, due to the fact that their lives have been screwed up by an illegal alien stealing their identity i.e Social Security Number".Weather you are brown,white , black etc..living in the USA- because your an American Citizen..at some point you will be a victim.I'm not a big fan of Arpio, but i know when he leaves office..The Cartel will take over and we'll be back where we started again with the violence and thievery.Atleast he has the Balls to do something about it. That is all".

Nobody
Nobody

To Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN:

Your very attitude and usage of certain words betray not only a certain mentality but your very limited amount of time on this planet. The following is an attempt to adequately respond to some of your questions that should have obvious answers:

The reason that everyone does NOT as you put it, "sit here and [b_tch] about all the LEGAL murderers and child molesters that your [OUR] so-called precious tax-dollars support every" year is simply because that's NOT the subject of this article.

Secondly, we DO handle the situation with the type of LEGAL people you refer to by giving them an opportunity to go to court and if found guilty, pay the consequences. Sometimes those consequences consist of jail/prison time. Still, these LEGAL people are OUR OWN people that WE have the responsibility of dealing with. It is NOT our responsibility to deal with the problems of people that don't belong here. It is however, OUR AUTHORITY to deal with them accordingly when they INVADE/TRESPASS or break any of our laws.

The same can be said of a young female U.S. Citizen who is irresponsible and keeps on getting pregnant, but cannot afford to properly take care of her OWN offspring nor does she exhibit the desire to do so. It is NOT a LEGAL responsibility of GRANDMA/GRANDPA or other relatives to deal with her situation. They can choose to do so, if they so desire, but they are NOT legally obligated to. One might argue that it is an ETHICAL issue requiring attention. I might agree with that. However, the issue before us (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION), is PRIMARILY a LEGAL one and not necessarily an ethical one. When we, as a community, or members of our own government take it upon ourselves to personally assist or pass legislation to assist a woman as described above, we do so out of an ethical mindset, not a legal one. Even when we pass laws for these purposes, there are limitations set forth as to how far we can assist such people. This is to prevent abuse as well as to discourage poor decision-making. Turning Mexico into the 51st State of the Union is NOT a solution to Mexico's problems. We have laws regarding foreign aid, but like any laws regarding the usage of taxpayer dollars, there are regulations (as there should be), as to how these monies are to be dispersed.

The failure of ILLEGAL Immigrants to acknowledge these laws as well as the failure of OUR own government to abide by the limitations inherent in these same laws is at the very heart of the ANTI-ILLEGAL Immigration stance that the majority of U.S.Citizens have finally decided to take, particularly in the State of Arizona, where the problem has reached epic proportions that not only require, but demand that action be taken to eliminate the problem (not ignore it), before we end up in a civil war.

Nobody
Nobody

Readers take note: On 06-20-11, on line three of my comment to an individual going by the screen name of "the sheriff can suck it" I incorrectly cited "Jhgh" as the person was responding to. It is interesting to note that when I copied and pasted this persons screen name it came up as, "the sheriff can suck it [Moderator]" without the quotation marks of course. Question: How did the word "moderator" get in there? Is this an employee of NEWTIMES or a personal friend of Andrick Aviles in disguise? I have since corrected my typo and hereby re-submit my comment...

Shame, shame Andrick. After reading more about your story, I was beginning to have more compassion towards you and your family. By siding with this rebellious, big-mouthed, reverse-bigot who calls himself "the sheriff can suck it [Moderator] ", you have simply reinforced what the MAJORITY (yes the majority), of U.S. Citizens think about ILLEGAL immigrants and how these immigrants behave once you give them a break by granting them naturalization. Despite how some people may view your case as a victory for whatever, the truth is that in the next few years, you are going to see laws that are going to have a much more negative impact on ILLEGAL immigrants. I, for one, support tougher laws, and I am an Hispanic-American Citizen.

Do your best to prove us wrong. Seriously. Pay your taxes. Stay away from groups that promote ILLEGAL immigration. Pledge allegiance to the country that mercifully granted you amnesty, naturalization, or whatever, but not to Mexico and its inhabitants. (Mexico needs to fix its own problems.) Be a U.S. American Citizen first, then a Latino second. Support OUR laws, protecting OUR country and OUR citizens, not people who want to be here illegally. Arizona's SB 1070 is based on Federal Codes and they make it clear that assisting an ILLEGAL immigrant is a crime, even if your religion or personal convictions dictate otherwise.

(Remember, your situation was a bit different than most of these invaders we currently have. If you try to turn the USA into Mexico, by helping border violators, you're telling everyone in the USA that you do not respect OUR laws. You will be used as an example of why not to grant amnesty/naturalization to ILLEGAL immigrants in the future.) You were not granted this amnesty/naturalization to pave the way for lawbreakers. Piensa lo que te digo.

Nobody
Nobody

It appears that "Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN" is stuck in the past. A past that he did NOT experience, a past that was hundreds of years ago. Perhaps he cannot discern the fact that U.S. Citizens who are alive TODAY are NOT the "same Americans that came here and took" the land from the Native Americans. Why does "Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN" fail to see that TODAY'S ILLEGAL Immigrants are creating an environment where they are taking away from ALL U.S. Citizens and claiming racism as a defense to their trespassing.

How long has the war been waging between the Israelis people and their antagonists? Most of this issue appears to be property/land related. (I'm not in those countries, so I don't know for sure. That's what I gleam from the media and you can't always trust it.) In the 1990s, the Serbs and the Croatians had similar problems that escalated into a full blown war. I AM CERTAIN THAT MOST U.S. CITIZENS DO NOT WISH FOR OUR CURRENT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM TO ESCALATE TO THE SAME DEGREE. War is an atrocity that we hope to avoid, thus the need to enforce existing laws and the enactment of newer laws that protect U.S. Citizens from the INVASION that is more commonly referred to as ILLEGAL Immigration.

Our country is in a recession. Tensions are very high. When a U.S.Citizen is taught to respect the property of others and to work for what he/she needs, most of us attempt to do so. However, when we observe a plethora of individuals invading our country and siphoning off what we understand to belong to us, it is only rational that we are going to become angry at the INVADERS for doing so. This is particularly true when these same invaders have the audacity to act as if they have every right to do so. ( Expecting OUR lawyers to defend them while they prance around waving THEIR COUNTRY'S FLAG is an example in support of this claim.) It appears that "Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN" can't see that these INVADERS are not any better than the pilgrims/settlers that he ridiculed in his response to "nativeamericanindian's" comments on this same subject.

Carlos Rodriguez
Carlos Rodriguez

A true inspirational story!!! Much love y respecto for the Aviles Familia for wanting more and doing it right!!! Andrick's putting down the ink therapy!

Rich
Rich

Where is Joe Arpaio when you need him? Look here Joe this one is advertising that he is illegal, go get him!

Sgosher
Sgosher

He needs to go to jail. As well as the tattoo parlor where he worked for not paying taxes. The people he tattooed need to go to jail for aiding and abetting a known criminal. Why is he still here in the US? He's a know illegal alien, broke multiple laws of this country and went to school free on my dime. WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TRAVESTY!!!!!!!!

Daryle
Daryle

Your right I didnt read the whole artical because it really didnt hold that much interest for me. Congrats to him on his being legal now.

theracewegetit
theracewegetit

their plenty of great tatoo artist's in our prison system too!

Ivan3
Ivan3

whats the shop name? ILLEGAL INK????

What part of "ILLEGAL" dont you dumbazz liberals understand!!!!!!

Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN
Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN

Why doesn't everyone sit here and bitch about all the LEGAL murderers and child molesters that your so-called precious tax-dollars support every year?? American prisons are full of tax-evaders buying and selling goods and TATTOOS on a daily basis!!! They get FREE medical, dental, schooling, food, you name it. You would rather sit here and support the scum of the earth instead of helping a good family get on their feet. Great moral values America...that's why this country is going to hell. We need to help the good people that deserve a chance. Illegal or not this family did not steal and has worked for what they have.....it wasn't given to them by their rich Anglo parents. NO they did not pay taxes...but will not have Social Security to retire on either...so that is a wash. There are worse things in life then tax evasion...and we all have committed a crime; ie speeding and taking samples from the candy bins at the super market. Give me a break, Let he who is without sin...cast the first stone!!!!!

kerry c
kerry c

Tax evasion, criminal trespass, working without a proper health license, working without a sales tax license, not paying city and state sales taxes, not paying federal and state personal taxes and taking a proper citizens job out from under him/her when we are in a major recession. Oh yeah I forgot he's doing a job nobody wants to do picking lettuce, oh wait he's a tattoo artist, duh. Bloody liberals keep supporting this crap. Deport his sorry a$$ yesterday.

MRAY
MRAY

What's next? Serial rapist opens bakery? Meth lab owner teaches ballroom dancing? Why is an article featuring a criminal? And why is law enforcement not paying this guy a visit for deportation? At what point do our laws mean something?

Patriot
Patriot

This is just one more example of a person committing tax evasion! What is so great about holding up people committing crimes, as good people?If you know you are committing a crime and stop doing it then maybe there is some redemption, but to continue when you know it is one felony on top of another, only gives cause to the reason we need secure borders now!!There is nothing honorable about this person, or any that think he is a victim of circumstance! The circumstance stopped when he became aware he was involved in criminal enterprises! :(

Jak85009
Jak85009

Stay in the shadows...you are not from the Valley. Been to Home Depot, Lowe's laely and not have illegals in your face. Illegals have more run, free access than any Angelo, who are you kidding. The Phnx, DPS , and one other than Sheriff have no nads. Gordon the worst of all.

AMERICAN MEXICAN
AMERICAN MEXICAN

Another sob-story.Boo hoo hooo hooo hoo. So ,now he can buy his citizenship.Open borders rags like the New Times are only good for one thing: ASS WIPES!!!

non-biased
non-biased

Stupid New Times and their one-sided reporting. Sure, lets support an illegal immigrant, who's performing illegal tattooing in his house! You pointed out that it's a FELONY! An illegal committing a FELONY! Such one-sideness is so typical of the New Times. That's why I stopped picking up their publications.

Mateonelson
Mateonelson

this person needs to go back to his mother country and if he chooses to come her, he needs to do it legally. Illegal is Illegal.

ESPINOZA1LUIS
ESPINOZA1LUIS

STEAK DINNER SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD!!!!!!!WITH SOME SHRIMP ON THE SIDE................ILL JUST BUY THEM WITH MY FOOD STAMPS.........IF THE ITS UNDERCOOK N GET SICK.........ILL JUST USE THE ACHHS........WITH NO SIGLE DIME COMING OUT OF MY POCKET;)))))))))))) AND MAYBE ILL JUST MY CASH BENEFITS TO GET A TATOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! N THERES NOT A DAM THING U TRAILER TRASH FU***** COULD DO ABOUT IT......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

NOBODY
NOBODY

Please Note: I am an Hispanic U.S. Citizen and speak Spanish fluently. My opinions are NOT racially based and are shared by MANY U.S. Citizensfrom different backgrounds, but especially by other Hispanic U.S. Citizens.You are welcome to disagree with me or anyone else on this subject. That is one of the most fundamental rights that we are privileged to enjoy in this country.However, if my opinions are flagged/removed simply because someone disagrees withthem, this is simply demonstrating an anti-U.S. American attitude towards free speech.With freedoms or rights comes an inherent responsibility in the exercise of those same freedoms or rights.

(Check out my other comments in the middle of this main page. About 4-inches under the area reserved for Connect, Twitter, and Yahoo links, you will see a small box with the words "Sort by" in front of it. Click the drop-down arrow and choose "Best rating".)

Maybe I am wrong, but I believe that some of my opinions have beenflagged because some people didn't like how I have pointed out additionalreasons (not related to the economy), why U.S. Citizens are gettingsick and tired of the overwhelming amount of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTSwho are trespassing in this country.

NO I AM NOT WRITING THESE OPINIONS FOR NOTORIETY. I believe in what I write and hope other U.S. Citizens will stop complaining and actually do something about this problem that is plaguing our country.

Personally, I think Joe Arpaio has a few screws loose, but that doesn't change anything. He didn't write the laws. He's not smart enough to nor does he have the authority to do so. The legislative and executive branches of our government have that honor. As for amnesty, do your research. It did not work back in 1986-1988 and it won't work now. As a matter of fact, that helped to contribute to our current dilemma/crisis with this very issue. The infants of all of those illegal immigrants/border violators are now in their mid to late twenties and are the main proponents of amnesty today. Many of them feel that they "owe it to their people" to support amnesty because our government felt sorry for their parents and they "wouldn't be here without it".

Let's say you have three children. One of them is a rebellious daughter who, despite what she has been taught, hangs around with bad company and gets pregnant outside of wedlock. Not a big deal huh? Hold on a minute! She is very out-spoken (she has a big-mouth), that often gets her into trouble. Therefore, she does not maintain gainful employment or a meaningful relationship for very long periods of time. She calls you on the phone and asks if she can move in (AGAIN), because she's single and lost another job so she can't pay her rent. This is her 3rd time in the last four years to do this.

Should you help her? I guess that depends on our definition of "help". Apparently, she didn't learn anything the 1st or 2nd time around. No, you are probably hurting her more by letting her move in again. She needs to learn to keep her mouth shut so she won't keeping losing her jobs. If not that, then she needs to get rid of her attitude so that a decent man can help her raise her children. She needs to learn to support her OWN CHILDREN she gave birth to. We all make mistakes, but other people shouldn't pay for the ones that you and I make. The same things goes for her mistakes. Letting her move in a 3rd time will probably prove to be counter-productive as her problems will now become your problems. You are only enabling her bad behavior if you let her move in a 3rd time.

What's the connection here? Simple. Allowing a host of illegal immigrants to move into the USA all once does not solve Mexico's economical or crime problems. It only moves the problems to the U.S. and thereby encourages Mexico to keep on doing as it pleases. Turning Mexico into the 51st State of the U.S. is a horrible idea. Unfortunately, that is where we are heading unless we stop it now. SAY NO TO AMNESTY! SAY NO MORE ILLEGAL TRESPASSERS! SAY NO to artificially moving the U.S.-Mexican Border a thousand miles North of where it currently exist by allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the USA without punishment for flagrantly invading our country.

Mexico has its own strict immigration laws to keep those from South America from pouring in. The Mexican government understands what a burden illegal immigration places on its own economy as well as the increase in crime it brings. See, http://puttroopsontheborder.co...

REMEMBER:

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD SHOOT EVERYBODY THAT IS HERE ILLEGALLY, BUT I AM SAYING THAT:

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU SHOULD NOT GET:

A JOB, A DRIVERS LICENSE, A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE,A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLICDOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE, THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT, NOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION !!!

PLEASE KEEP !!! THIS GOING......FORWARD TO ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS & FAMILY

IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code,

Illegal Immigration is a Crime!

http://www.americanpatrol.com/...

Arizona's new anti-illegal immigration law is based on the above and otherU.S. Codes.

PLEASE KEEP !!! THIS GOING......

CLICK THE BUTTON IF YOU AGREE.

I hardly meet anyone that is a U.S. Citizen (with no strong ties to illegal immigrants),that disagree.

Abe Johnson
Abe Johnson

This is exactly why we had 225 years of American civilization to fight against. --Snake oil sellers, under the table dealings, the mob, and generally people getting by doing sub-standard work and not paying taxes! --Why is this an example of the kind of riff-raff we want in the US of A??

Lilvamp80
Lilvamp80

so he's here illegally,doesn't pay taxes I'm guessing because he was paid under the table,operates an illegal business...and this is supposed to be inspiring------thanks to the guy or gal who sent a link to sheriffs department------ICE needs to be notified too-------illegal is illegal---I could care less how talented he's supposed to be --break the law-go to jail--come here illegally, get deported

SA
SA

My husband and I are trying to get residency-citizenship in a country in the Southern Hemisphere. The process will take years for us because it has specific needs and every immigrant accepted must be proven to be useful to the society and economy. They no longer allow anchor babies and take illegal extended stay very seriously, possibly forbidding you to ever return...they have a good economy, good employment and wonderful way of life. They also are pretty liberal in many aspects...and yet, liberals in our own country cannot grasp common sense to save their lives. They want everything for anyone they feel sorry for without concerning themselves with balance and consequences, and can't even get us out of the wars they've been crying about for a decade. Republicans are not much better either and are worse in some ways, but they are at least willing to take a stand on some things. Good luck with that.

Tangled Web
Tangled Web

Name, location, and a link to this page forwarded to the Maricopa Sheriff's office - if he is stupid enough to let them post this story, I'm obliging enough to get him arrested and deported.

Adios amigo !

Me
Me

Read the rest of the article bud.

Maria Mejia-Delgado
Maria Mejia-Delgado

like the other guy said...read the whole article...AND ITS NOT ON YOUR DIME...makes me mad when people write that....THEY PAY TAXES BUT NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT so they dont make a big deal..so technically THEY MAKE a bunch of money for us guys and never ask for it

Who K
Who K

I like how you call regular Americans "scum of the earth" for their crimes, and then turn around and say "everyone has sinned", therefore its okay for illegals to break the laws in America. It's as if you justify crime after condemning everyone else for committing one.

I'm glad they have a chance now. So should everyone break the laws first, and then apply for citizenship? I'm not sure if you know, but Amercia has a finite (that is, limited) number of jobs, resources and opportunities.

Ilegals don't care about that. They care about themselves and "making life better for them", NOT the general welfare of the country. No matter how you dice it, that's not appealing to Americans.

And yes, I have gotten a speeding ticket, and was convicted. So now that I've paid the price for my crimes, would you say that others should also pay the price for their crimes?

I look forward to your answer, although I'm pretty sure you won't respond.

Nobody
Nobody

To Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN:

Your very attitude and usage of certain words betray not only a certain mentality but your very limited amount of time on this planet. The following is an attempt to adequately respond to some of your questions that should have obvious answers:

The reason that everyone does NOT as you put it, "sit here and [b_tch] about all the LEGAL murderers and child molesters that your [OUR] so-called precious tax-dollars support every" year is simply because that's NOT the subject of this article.

Secondly, we DO handle the situation with the type of LEGAL people you refer to by giving them an opportunity to go to court and if found guilty, pay the consequences. Sometimes those consequences consist of jail/prison time. Still, these LEGAL people are OUR OWN people that WE have the responsibility of dealing with. It is NOT our responsibility to deal with the problems of people that don't belong here. It is however, OUR AUTHORITY to deal with them accordingly when they INVADE/TRESPASS or break any of our laws.

The same can be said of a young female U.S. Citizen who is irresponsible and keeps on getting pregnant, but cannot afford to properly take care of her OWN offspring nor does she exhibit the desire to do so. It is NOT a LEGAL responsibility of GRANDMA/GRANDPA or other relatives to deal with her situation. They can choose to do so, if they so desire, but they are NOT legally obligated to. One might argue that it is an ETHICAL issue requiring attention. I might agree with that. However, the issue before us (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION), is PRIMARILY a LEGAL one and not necessarily an ethical one. When we, as a community, or members of our own government take it upon ourselves to personally assist or pass legislation to assist a woman as described above, we do so out of an ethical mindset, not a legal one. Even when we pass laws for these purposes, there are limitations set forth as to how far we can assist such people. This is to prevent abuse as well as to discourage poor decision-making. Turning Mexico into the 51st State of the Union is NOT a solution to Mexico's problems. We have laws regarding foreign aid, but like any laws regarding the usage of taxpayer dollars, there are regulations (as there should be), as to how these monies are to be dispersed.

The failure of ILLEGAL Immigrants to acknowledge these laws as well as the failure of OUR own government to abide by the limitations inherent in these same laws is at the very heart of the ANTI-ILLEGAL Immigration stance that the majority of U.S.Citizens have finally decided to take, particularly in the State of Arizona, where the problem has reached epic proportions that not only require, but demand that action be taken to eliminate the problem (not ignore it), before we end up in a civil war.

Dtruax11
Dtruax11

I am a taxpayer. I had to put my children in a private school because they were having trouble with and being neglected because of mexican students that barely speak english and whos parents are illegal.My children arent getting the attention because they speak english and arent trouble makers. You make some valid points no question but wher do you draw the line. Paying taxes for public school and free healthcare for people that dont have a legal rite to be here chaps my a!@. I dont have alot of money but Im making sacrifices to pay for my children to go to another school. I am a tipical American whos worked for everything I have NO RICH ' ANGLO' Parents.

Me
Me

I know the Sheriff's Office is misspending money, but I hope they aren't wasting our money trying to deport people that are here legally. Why don't you read page six of this article nice and carefully now?

KMM
KMM

If you bothered to finish reading the article, you'd see that he and his family are legal now.. problem solved. Don't you love happy endings?

PANCHO
PANCHO

STEAK DINNER SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD!!!!!!!WITH SOME SHRIMP ON THE SIDE................ILL JUST BUY THEM WITH MY FOOD STAMPS.........IF THE ITS UNDERCOOK N GET SICK.........ILL JUST USE THE ACHHS........WITH NO SIGLE DIME COMING OUT OF MY POCKET;)))))))))))) AND MAYBE ILL JUST MY CASH BENEFITS TO GET A TATOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! N THERES NOT A DAM THING U TRAILER TRASH FU***** COULD DO ABOUT IT......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

KMM
KMM

Umm one minor fact... he's legal now. So where would he get deported to?

Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN
Mexi_CAN Ameri_CAN

All they are gonna say is it's in the past...oh well.......

Didn't your momma ever teach you not to be a tattle tale??? LOSER!!Get a life and quit worrying about everyone else's.If everyone would just worry about their DAMN-SELVES...this would be a better country altogether. Keep YOUR OWN back porch swept.......nosey a$$ people

KMM
KMM

Why would he get deported? If you finished reading the article instead of firing off a comment, you'd see him and his family are legal now. I would say that you wasted the Sheriff's time with this, but I know (with $100 mil misspent) he's already wasting his time.

MRAY
MRAY

I did read the whole article. So let me restate the facts...his family was here illegally (from the article) and they ultimately (after many years) went through the legal immigration process. How about the families that wait their turn in Mexico or respective home before coming here legally? The fact is this family was in violation of the law and the fact that they are now doing it right is an insult to every individual who follows the immigration laws of our country. If I robbed a bank 20 years ago and then return to the same bank to open an account today am I not still guilty of the robbery I commited? I doubt the law would look the other way because I am choosing to abide by the law now, even though I had some missteps many years ago.

And as a side note, why is a tattoo parlor being held out in this article as the hallmark of the entrepreneurial spirit of America? I'd much rather read an article about a gifted Indian engineer who comes to America legally to boost the brain trust.

SMOKEY
SMOKEY

Where does the article state that they are legal now?

"And after waiting 16 years for an interview with immigration officials, the family came up a few thousand dollars short of their required fines and fees earlier this year."

Maybe you need to go learn more on reading comprehension.

Frustrated
Frustrated

This IS our own back yard, idiot. We had MORE of a life before we had to start supporting all these illegals (how many do YOU know who pay for all the babies they have in this country?) We ARE worrying about our own "DAMN SELVES." That's why we are standing up and fighting. And as for your name? I don't think there is much "Ameri-CAN" about you.

Nobody
Nobody

To Mexi_CAN:

We ARE worrying about ourselves. We ARE protecting ourselves... from people who would change what it means to be American. Keep the border where its at, not in my back yard.

Me
Me

Regarding your bank robbery analogy there are statutes of limitations on crimes, for better or for worse. So it's quite possible that you actually wouldn't be tried for the crime even though you technically were guilty. I wouldn't know the details though, for I'm not a lawyer nor a criminal.

While you personally may not like tattoos, there are many people from all walks of life that do. You personally seem to hold engineering above art (which his work truly is... I'd love to see you do anything close to what he does). That's your opinion. Many others value art. Would you rather he be using his artistic ability with graffiti on the streets?

KMM
KMM

Another quote on page 6:"Now that they're finally legal, everyone in the family's making plans."

Your comment about my reading comprehension sure is ironic now, isn't it? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you just need some new reading glasses bud.

Casey
Casey

Your quote was from the end of the FIRST PAGE of the article. here's from the last page of the article:

"After paying the fines, they submitted fingerprints and photos of themselves, and attended two interviews — one in March (for their work visas) and the one in May, for residency."

Maybe you need to go learn about counting?

 
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