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06/22/2011 9:43:00 PM
Immigrants are always welcome....
just get in line like the thousands who are waiting to hear their name called and who respect this country's rule of laws!
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Gonz 06/18/2011 6:26:00 AM
You know what loser, your right they should deport all the hardworking immigrants,
In this country, so that your white ass' could go and pick your own fruits and vegetables that you put in your sewer holes, you fuckin pussies wouldn't last one
Day, yet you have the audacity (look it up) to talk shit, about people who do your dirty work. Fuckin TURD!
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Bnbk 06/15/2011 8:53:00 PM
Yes,lets start with the very first illegals & all descendants. All we'll have left is brown skinned people! Yes hop on a boat & get your ass back to Europe where you belong.Good idea you have there!
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06/15/2011 7:45:00 PM
If you love america, you should leave. Our gene pool will thank you. Set your old lady up with a Mexican first, for extra credit.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 6:05:00 PM
ONLY A COMPLETE FOOL IS FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN TRASH. Just like these two bimbos on here with big mouths. As long as stupid fools like them cry and whine Arizona will be in trouble. It just amazes me how stupid people like them can be. I would bet money that neither of them can provide ONE VALID REASON WHY America should reward illegal aliens with amnesty for coming here illegally and breaking our laws. They are themselves probably illegal alien baby factories. That is why they scream so loud. America, it is time to stop listening to all the clowns like them and just deport the illegal alien scum. I know you are stupid but try looking up the the definition of illegal you dumb azz.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 5:56:00 PM
YOU are such an illegal alien loving idiot that you must be brain dead. It is stupid morons like you that are ruining this country. WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE? YOU are obviously un-American and an idiot so go to a foreign country and leave us alone. Am,erica does not need idiots like YOU. Traitorous illegal alien loving POS is what YOU are.
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06/15/2011 12:23:00 AM
Not at all butthurt; that would suggest I respect your opinion.
It's not a matter of truth hurting, it's a matter of ignorance irritating, and you are one ignorant fool. You have no reason to feel superior to someone who just waded the Rio Grande to get here. In most cases, they are better people than you. And some of them already have a better grasp of the English language than you have demonstrated.
"YOU must have went to special ed?" You must not have attended your English classes, or perhaps you dropped out of school. Or maybe you attended special ed and were just too "special" for it to do you any good.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 12:23:00 AM
That is your hometown WHY would I want to go there? That is for people like YOU!
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 12:21:00 AM
You got mouth like a trucker but you are not quite as smart. It's fools like you that are ruining this country.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 12:20:00 AM
Nice turn around. It's amazing you are even smart enough to do that.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 12:18:00 AM
First I am against ALL illegal aliens not just mexicans. The thing is MOST illegal aliens ARE Latinos and THEY are the ones screaming for rights and rewards. THEY are the ones that play the race card so quickly. THEY say "Not all illegal aliens are mexican and then when you speak about the issue and they don't like it "You are racist". As for not hearing about illegal immigration in the 80 or 90's you did not have the drug war either. You did not have the cartels buying real estate in America. You did not have gangs running cities. In the 80's and 90's we did not have THOUSANDS of people coming across the border every day. In fact back then the citizens of Arizona put water jugs in the desert so they would not die. Then they started killing Americans. They started stealing their property. Now the citizens of Arizona don't leave water for illegal aliens any more but carry guns instead. Also back then the cartels did not find it profitable to smuggle illegal aliens into America. NOW they do, so they smuggle them by the thousands. A LOT has changed over the years. Now it is to the point of destroying this country. It MUST be stopped at all costs.
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Terry6890 06/15/2011 12:01:00 AM
A little butthurt? Truth hurts doesn't it. Sorry idiot illegal alien is NOT a migrant you idiot, neither is an undocumented worker. YOU must have went to special ed because YOU are really stupid. If you love illegal aliens so much then let them live with you YOU pay for them.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 11:58:00 PM
Kick ALL illegal aliens out. It does not matter WHERE they are from. IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL then YOU get deported. What part of ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS don't you get?
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Ernst Bäcker 06/14/2011 10:09:00 PM
some one we should be against is the muslims they are the problem they bombed the twin towers and want to build a mosque near ground zero.
they are the cause why our families are at war.
hear me i never said arabs are problem i said Muslims if you read their coran in their originall language and translate it directly you will see what i am saying. the american is changed because there is regulations in the states but in germany a lot of us know what kind of messed up things it contains. tthe reason i said us germans is because i go there every summer and my perants who are directly from germany and grandparents without opinion gave me the koran to understand whay it is messed uo. i analized it and you do not whant these people who appear to be nice in the mirror while at their back thay have knived ready to stab you in their time
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Ernst Bäcker 06/14/2011 10:02:00 PM
ooh people get to many emotions in here. Mexicans can say the same thing "we all are going to get every Americans deported and imprisoned."
too much emotion
look if you are going to argue terry among other persons please keep it logical instead of emotional i am also an American by the way.
Now let me ask you a question do you know the Government regulations in Mexico. no you do not it is nothing like the American it is a total socialist/communistic country with communistic laws.
Now what is this argument all about.
are we like Hitler's time just because you are a Jew or a catholic who was against Hitler you should not be in the Germany? what i am saying is people this illegal immigrant thing is becoming so obsessive. are all Mexicans criminals? In fact I know many Mexicans who are not criminals and are hard workers they also helped shape our economy.
we brought our economy down. "How?" first we went to war in Iraq there is money going to the war, second we kick the workers who are willing to work for 2-5 bucks a day. they build our homes our farms etc.
people are getting deported but not to their locations as officials said, a kid from Mexico was dropped to Sinaloa a state in Mexico and the narcs killed the boy to sell his eyes and guts to the black market. by the way this is true story i heard it from a ladie who found out that her son died 2 years ago this way the boy was 8 years old.
Now do you think what Arpaio did which is astonishing making men wear womens underwear in prison good? why do you not visit some time the prisons or jail after all they worked they were thrown in the bottom in mexico honor is very ultra important and they are being degraded as a homosexual anymal.(and yes i said it.)
why not kick european illegals out? is it because they have the same skin color as us? or is it that they have the proper education for bringing our economy up?
no in fact that is not the case. europeans,middleastern people even though muslims are our enemy look at the twin towers some one we should be hitting is at them, and asia is all ok to come.
but not mexican are you haring all those lies that are goign through the media. the media are giving you one hint, that all mexicans are criminals and that is not true.
we want power back but we will not get it back untill either we do their jobs for 4 bucks a day as minimum forget all those nice home etc. or until we as citizens accept them and only give them a new tipe of status that we would call, instead of green card or citizenship, workers right
which i would propose that every Hispanic or European or Asian, Jewish and christian Israeli, Christian Lebanese workers has the right to live in the U.S.A. as long as they are working and they are trying to work.
that way they support our country in the right ways.
what is your proposition?
before judging them give me a proposition that our economy will fix our economy and that we treat these people as humans instead of animals
I personally am and will always be against treating people as animals. i believe we all are people
the only people that should be brought to justice are murders, drug sellers, prostitutes among other type of criminals.
now i want a reason how are illegals doing us harm? how are illegals killing us? and if you will bring me how economic problems were caused by illegals i am sorry but those are lies. will you take their job> not would will you? so before you answer think, before you say think, not with the heart but with your mind.
so if you and other people will vote for a law that will kick illegals out then please also add that in that list it also include european, midddleastern, asians, africans, and others because that would be fair instead of only a specific group but all others are allowed.
by the way i am not pro Obama if that is your next question. and no i did not vote for Obama.
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06/14/2011 7:54:00 PM
"That is an interesting way to reduce all crimes."
Not all crimes, but certainly victimless crimes. Ending the war on drugs would immediately cut the legs out from under cross-border drug traffickers, and would soon cut our prison population in half. Other countries have done so and have not had any sort of boom in addiction rates or crime rates. To the contrary, problems such as addiction, needle-transmitted disease, etc. tend to plummet when recreational drugs are decriminalized and addiction is treated as a medical issue rather than a crime.
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06/14/2011 7:43:00 PM
"The corporation commission & the register of contractors should have to make sure all applicants are citizens."
Classic.
Welcome to the great immigration debate, where the people who say "What part of illegal don't you understand" don't understand it themselves, and where the people who say "English only" can barely speak it themselves.
This may come as a surprise to you, but it is possible to be a legal non-citizen, and many are.
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06/14/2011 7:32:00 PM
excellent reply, some very good points. Of course undocumented workers arent just from mexico, they are from all over south america, Ive met people from Peru, from Africa and Nigeria, even from Russia. My thought has always been, America is becoming not greedy but expensive and these expenses are what are forcing companies and agriculture to find alternatives. Im sure you have heard the sayings like a movie ticket was a quarter in my time or for a buck you could get coffee and a breakfast. So why cant america lower its costs within, so those companies and employers dont have to find cheaper means or move out of the country? YOu always hear technology is getting smaller and cheaper, then how come we cant afford to make things in the this country anymore?? my thinking is if more was produced here, and we relied less on importing from others, we could lower our costs within our country and then a spaghetti company could afford to pay minimum wage and benefits to a legal citizen of this nation instead of having to cut corners. When america was cheap we were producing alot here, now that we are not, an autombile can cost upwards of 20-30 thousands unless you want to be crushed in a freaking datsun! 12 million people did not cross the line overnight, illegal immigration has been happening for decades, the only reason we give a turd now is partly because of 9-11 and the fact the economy is in the Shitar, never heard jack about illegal immigration in the 80's or early 90's (well correction in the 80'sonce and a while you had those dudes from cuba, floating in on a innertube but that was about it) but its hypocrasy because if anyone is truly serious about addressing it you will face both a politcal and monetary steel wall.
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06/14/2011 7:32:00 PM
"One can argue that the socioeconomic structure in Latin America, gives Latinos an inherit disadvantage to more developed countries as far as coming here legally. How is that the U.S.'s fault or problem?"
The USA's love for gunboat diplomacy, banana republics and "regime change" having largely dictated the political landscape in Latin America over the last century does make the situation in large part the USA's fault.
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06/14/2011 7:25:00 PM
As can you. You should be deported to Dumbfuckistan.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 7:20:00 PM
YOU really are an idiot. It's people like YOU that ARE the problem. What part of illegal DON'T you understand? What a MORON!
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06/14/2011 7:15:00 PM
And yet every time somebody calls you and people like you a bunch of inbred sandbilly methlab trailer trash YOU cry racism. Why is that? Is "inbred sandbilly methlab trailer trash" a race? Besides being a race to the shallow end of the gene pool?
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 7:11:00 PM
I'm sorry, I just can't get over what a moron you are.
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06/14/2011 7:10:00 PM
"Illegal aliens" are by definition both migrants and undocumented workers. Look it up in your Funk and Wagnalls.
And stop calling people stupid until you can write above a sixth grade level.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 7:08:00 PM
LEGAL immigration is NOT the issue here. This country was founded and built by immigrants. THIS issue is about illegal aliens who are NOT immigrants but criminal invaders. WHY should every single American citizen be punished when THEY break the law but NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS? Please give one valid reason WHY America should reward them for breaking our laws and coming here illegally?
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 7:02:00 PM
Excellent post! I understand what you are saying but because it is like that doesn't make it right or mean we should accept it. Change occurs when people get fed up. I am fed up. Our government is putting illegal aliens above American citizens and THAT has to stop. Illegal aliens DON'T deserve amnesty. How much crime is done by illegal aliens? THEY say Americans do crime to, of course they do but THEY are AMERICANS. We do not need mexicos crime also. I have watch whole cities go from being a decent place to raise your kids to illegal alien strongholds that are absolutely nasty. JUST LIKE PARTS OF MEXICO. But because "It's the way it is" I have to accept it? NO, I don't think so.I will die for my country if need be. Just because it is the way it is does not mean we have to accept it. By doing that we are part of the reason why "it is the way it is". If we continue allowing cheap labor to be the driving force The America we grew up in will be no more and it won't be for the better. There are some things in life worth fighting for and I truly believe this is one of them. We are being invaded. What really gets me mad is NO illegal or their supporters will even admit they are illegal. They act like the word does not exist. WHY should every single American citizen be punished when THEY break a law yet illegal aliens should not? Politicians pick and choose the laws they wish to enforce and as long as we allow them to do it we are as guilty as they are. The only way to change it is to stand up as one nation. The way illegal aliens and our borders are handled is absolutely a joke. I understand this is the way it is but so did our founding fathers. I wonder where we would be if they had just accepted it "because it the way things are". Right is right and Wrong is wrong. Legal is legal and illegal is illegal. FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN.
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06/14/2011 6:35:00 PM
but Terry, society changes, things change. The population continues to go up not just in the united states but surrounding countries, and with that demographics change. I dont want to say its greed but we have discovered its cheaper to pay someone to do the work than to do it ourselves, hence why we import more than we export and why we owe china a buttload of money. With that mindset, companies are finding every which way to reduce cost even at the expense of breaking the law (say it aint so!), and if it cant get it done that way, well, then like the way of the automobile industry, they go south of the border. hell, china even uses mexico these days for work. Its money and its political, people find it cheaper to pay the undocumented/illegal worker minscule wages than to pay the american minimum wage, full benefits and full time hours. and these companies have friends in our political realm, thats why you wont see (FOR EXAMPLE) a tyson chicken shut down or a Hormel penalized..and even if they were penalized, it would be a drop in the bucket compared to what they are saving. again, but for kudos you will see little places like the spaghetti company raided for , what, 2 people..who by now are back in arizona again. I agree with you illegal is illegal but I gurantee you are not going to see it going anywhere, anytime soon. 10-1 Brewer will make it look like a good fight in the courts for the back pats and then give up and blame it on the democrats or obama in the end. its a political stunt. And legalizing drugs is outrageous, people are killed every day on our streets by morons abusing alcohol, do you really think we are going to add any more to that mix. hell no.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:57:00 PM
It is just amazing how many stupid peopleare for illegal aliens. Either they are really morons and should not breed or they are illegals or their relatives. WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON'T YOU GET? Are you really as stupid as you make out to be? I see some of you blubbering about this and about that, some idiots throw out the race card, I REALLY DON'T CARE! FACTS ARE: Illegal aliens are NOT migrants. Illegal aliens are NOT undocumented workers. Illegal aliens are NOT any type of race. THEY ARE CRIMINALS! Speaking of race You losers keep talking about how not all illegal aliens are mexicans. THAT IS TRUE. BUT in the same breath when someone talks about illegal aliens and YOU don't like it call them racist even if no race is mentioned. SO I DON'T CARE! I am going to do everything I can to get every single illegal alien deported or imprisoned. If YOU don't like it TOO BAD! Look up the definition of illegal you azzhat.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:50:00 PM
YOU can always leave.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:49:00 PM
YOU are really stuck on stupid.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:47:00 PM
That's why we need to deport all illegal aliens. They are not undocumented workers. They are not migrants. THEY are criminals, every single one of them and need to be treated as such.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:45:00 PM
And because they did it legally they are welcome here. GOOD JOB to them all.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:45:00 PM
It's your own fault because you morons tried to paint "illegal aliens" as arace. When you cry wolf people eventually get tired of it. Maybe if illegals stayed in their own country Americans would like you more. Maybe if illegals didn't expect everything for free Americans would like you more. Illegals are like roaches and need to be stamped out. YOU are in denial or a liar. Do YOU know the definition of illegal or are you just stupid?
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:39:00 PM
ILLEGAL ALIENS NOT undocumented worker.
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Terry6890 06/14/2011 5:38:00 PM
WHY would anyone want to ask a mexican anything? THEY don't even understand the word illegal so how smart can they be? Look how mexico is. Do you REALLY want advice from someone from a sewer? Someone who can't even fight for their own country? NO, I don't think so. Maybe if all your illegal alien buddies go back to mexico and make it better then I will listen to you but other than that I doubt you have anything either true or intelligent to say. Maybe I will listen when you stop calling ILLEGAL ALIENS migrant and undocumented workers. WE BOTH know that is a lie the difference is you refuse to admit it. NO, I do want to ask a mexican anything except when are you leaving to go home?
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06/14/2011 5:30:00 PM
whether illegals are a problem or not shouldn't even be a question the fact that they are illegal already puts them on the wrong side of the law. i do agree with legalizing drugs its not like i am going to buy speed, heroin or some crack just cause they made it legal. i would like to think the majority of Americans have enough intelligence and not go and buy something that is really bad for them just cause its legal.as far as los tigres del norte being like the beatles or rolling stones ..Are you on crack?
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Johnm 06/14/2011 5:50:00 AM
It is not right to hire an undocumented worker, but that same undocumented worker can go down to the state and get a corporation set up and go into there own business. The corporation commission & the register of contractors should have to make sure all applicants are citizens.
If it is a crimr to hire undocumented workers, then it shoul be a crime for the state to let them bypass the law.I am tired of living in a state that if you get in a car accident, there is a good chance the other person will not have insurance. And the police will not give them a ticket,they say it as there heritage to not have insurance.
Our schools now give free lunch out all summer long, you do not even need to be in school
and for one dollar an adult can eat there. We do not have any money for the schools but we can use that money to feed the cummunity.
Our state goverment speends hundreds of thousands of our tax money on billboards to advertise that you can get food stamps we do not check citizenship, we do not report to ICE.
We do not have enough poeple on assistance, the state has to advertise to get more?
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Do You Like Worms? 06/14/2011 3:25:00 AM
I'm surprised anyone asks this loser anything... "legalize drugs and people and your problem goes away" is probably one of the lamest answers i've ever heard. Column should be called ask a retard.
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Tompaineaz 06/13/2011 3:03:00 PM
I like to think that I am pretty open minded and hip to the progressive though process, however, you are starting to lose it IMO.
"Your question assumes there's a need to secure borders, when really we just need to legalize drugs and people, and our "problem" vanishes; after that, we can concentrate on preventing actual threats from entering this country instead of perceived ones."
That is an interesting way to reduce all crimes. Think of all the money we could save and all the people that would not be incarcerated if we just eliminated the laws that make actions illegal. For example: prostitution, legalize it and there is no more prostitution problem; underaged drinking, legalize it and there no more underaged drinking problem; disorderly conduct, legalize it and we don't have to worry about it any more. Think of all the problems we could solve by just saying it is not a problem: tax evasion, assault, impaired driving, copy write infringement, etc. I would say that even you draw the line somewhere. Can you tell me why you get to draw the line and not someone else?
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Cansado de los chuntaros 06/13/2011 3:10:00 AM
Blah blah blah,
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Mrroachsir 06/13/2011 12:48:00 AM
Your "Mexican" during a personal discourse has not the "huevos" to back up his argument.
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cansado de los chuntaros 06/12/2011 11:32:00 PM
The white guys aren't sending their money to another country or flying another country's flag and putting this one down. Besides what about the way Mexico treats immigrants at their southern border? I guess I could be considered Mexican - my great grandparents came from Mex and Spain. But I have one country - this is it. In the beginning people left their country for this one - and adopted a new one - without taking sides against the new one and promoting the one they left while here. Lock up the border and shoot dopers on sight!
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Cansado de los chuntaros 06/12/2011 9:48:00 PM
Beaners stay/go home.
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Steve 06/12/2011 7:41:00 PM
There are many people from other countries that came here legally.
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guest 06/12/2011 1:08:00 PM
I can't read your ridiculous articles anymore. Don't really care what an illegal would do
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C Her77 reply to terry 06/12/2011 1:11:00 AM
You know I don't have time to argue with racist closed minded people like you!!!!! There many people from many different countries in the U.S. Are your ancestors originally from here? I understand perfect english and I understand what you are. Me I'm very PROUD to be mexican and noy like you at least I know how to treat humans like so and I'm not racist or hateful because God made us all the same!!!!!!!!!!! Have a nice day and may God bless you because obviously you need it!!!!!
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Terry6890 06/11/2011 8:21:00 PM
I know EXACTLY what I am saying. ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS SHOULD BE DEPORTED! Can YOU understand me? What part of illegal do you not understand?
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Terry6890 06/11/2011 8:19:00 PM
Excellent post Delgast! I agree 100%. All this crap about legalize drugs and people. WE need to DEPORT each and every single illegal alien in this country. It seems that when you ask a mexican he does not know the meaning of the word "illegal--Let me spell it--I L L E G A L. ILLEGAL. To the writer: Look it up. It is in the dictionary. It is well past the time Americans just got tired of this garbage and say NO, GO HOME to your country and come here the legal way. Once we rid this country of illegal aliens and the economy picks up then MAYBE, we can update our i,,igration laws. It sjhould not take 10 years. BUT there should be NO AMNESTY OR BENEFITS to illegal aliens. Round them up and deport them all.
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Friendly observer 06/11/2011 2:37:00 PM
I lived in Mexico for almost eight years. They are hard workers, love God, and enjoy life, but with so little work, a corrupt government, little, personal liberty or rights, and living in a society where only the wealthy can improve their lives, let alone suffering from the affects of a "communistic" country, they are left with little recourse but to seek ways to survive. Long before we had border fences, we crossed without restrictions, and lived in harmony.
Another thing... their culture is filled with stories of death, loss and separation, success', and triumphs of the United States. They dream of being able to feed their children, of not working 70 hours per week $80 per week. They talk about it, dream about it, die for it, and sing about it. We may be able to build the world's best fence, put Border Patrol agents at every corner, but we will never stop an idea. Ideas have lives of their own, take root and grow with each moment.
The American Indians thought that they could stop us from coming here, and we subdued them, and won. We called it "Manifest Destiny". It was inevitable that we, in time's history, were destined to conquer the new world. I suggest the same. It is Manifest Destiny at work, once again.
As far as using our public resources to support them, look again. They may be in front of Home Depot looking for work, but the white guys are on street corners, with signs, begging for money. Think about it. Peace to all.
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06/11/2011 1:57:00 PM
Once again your putting your illegal immigrant approval into the story. I know there is no way to change a liberal rag like this. How I would secure the borders, simpler then you think and easier then politician makes it out to be. You recall our troops from foreign soil and staition them along our side of the border, then simply tell them "Don't allow any person under any circumstances to cross this border" You don't keep anything from them ie ammunition and you don't tie their hands with political BS, you let them do the job. Then you make illegal immigrants the highest priority of law enforcement. If found in this country illegally, it doesn't matter if you are working for the Pope, you are immediatly taken to one of the exits pushed accross and told never return. Then remove all incentitives to come here, employers found to be harboring illegals loose it all, including citizenship. They can remain but no longer have any rights afforded a citizen of this country. Then any agency/organization/business that promotes illegal immigration (that means you) gets shut down. See how easy that is.
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C Her77 06/11/2011 5:26:00 AM
I'm so tired of ignorant people!!! I mean do any of you people stop to think about what your saying before you say it? The Mexican and Native Americans were in the United States before the pilgrims came to start claiming something that didn't belong to them in the first place!!! I wonder did they have passports or legal documentation before coming here? And mexicans are not the only people who come here illegally. Who bombed the Twin Towers, oh i forgot the U.S government let them come over so they could take pilot lessons to do what they did. My father is from Mexico and I have to go see him because it's easier for me to go over there. The process for a visa is very long and costly, so I see my father and sisters once or twice a year. They would like to come over here with me but even if they could I wouldn't want them to because this country is so full of hatred that it's pathetic. And in case you didn't know if you are not a citizen you can't get government benefits for yourself or anyone who isn't a citizen.And furthermore if the social security number isn't valid or an ITIN is used they can't have EIC so everyone griping about the dependants they claim needs to investigate a little more. I'm from the U.S and to tell you the truth it shames me sometimes.
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Steve 06/10/2011 10:38:00 PM
Thank you for inviting me to waste my time reading that hack paper.
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06/10/2011 7:38:00 PM
Part of the reason many immigrate here illegally is work, work waiting for them. the meat processing industry, agriculture and factories are hiring immigrant and illegal immigrants for reasons such as low wages, NO UNION REPRESENTATION, and little or no benefits and they encourage their employees to invite more friends relatives to work for them. in the companies defense its lowering their cost which most pass to the consumer and makes them more competative. this has to be corrected but it will not be easy as alot of the Big Companies are owned by big supporters of our political structure (democrat and Repulican supporters) not to mention the fact alot of these companies have lobbyist on their payrolls. Thats why when Alabama just recently passed their own sb1070 law, the initial reaction has been, good luck enforcing it.. sure like here they will hastle the mom and pop establishments that hire manuel to sweep the floors or help load boxes, or the guys outside home depot but they are a drop in the bucket! thousands are not immigrating here illegally to stand out in 120 degree heat in front of home depot or mow your neighbors lawn...if you can slow or even stop Big Money from encouraging the problem, then i would say the next steps would be re-enforcing the border and 3rd , like George W has suggested, began legalizing or temporarily legalizing the ones here, that way we get them on the books, we can account of who is here, maybe their finger prints, photos and addresses and if needed you can penalize/charge them $$ for unpaid taxes or immigration costs. remember folks we have over 12 million illegal immigrants in this country, there is not a department nor is there the money , nor would the US ever ethically ship that amount of people back..its just not realistic, and for those who think fixing the border is going to keep you from seeing a brown face at your local starbucks, think again because we fix the border doesnt mean a big shift in the demographics. so if we are truly working on security, lets get who we have in this country on our books and those who refuse (which will be significantly less that 12 million) we can then work on sending back. incidentally thats why sb1070 is going to be interesting, because BIG BUSINESS are part if not mostly Republican Owned big companies, and do you think our republican sheriff or governor is going to shut down or cease operations of another Republicans buisness, especially one who supports their party..Hell No, they are going to turn the other way.
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Lucy Lopez 06/10/2011 4:21:00 PM
Our Border personnel is not even doing their job when it comes to illegals cross with ID's you even have US citizens crossing children illegally with their childrens birth certificates. They get paid thousands of dollars to take them across the country fooling all goverment employees with United States Certificates issued by our goverment. Maybe we should invent a fingerprint entry machine linked with our motor vechicle division of each state to accelarate entry and have children get an id with fingerprint to enter the US. Maybe then we wouldnt have all this children using our public schools, goverment funded programs that have been denied to honorable US citizens .
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Steve 06/10/2011 2:23:00 PM
It is not as hard as one might think to enter the U.S. legally. Yes, it is a long process, but it can be done. All one has to do is have a skill, not just a high school diploma.
As for the "thousands" of dollars of cost, it would be hard to save that kind of money working in Mexico, but one can relatively easily get a work visa, live here, and save that scratch. A friend of mine recently became a citizen after 10 years working here legally while making a comfortable living, so spare me the whining about the process taking years.
One can argue that the socioeconomic structure in Latin America, gives Latinos an inherit disadvantage to more developed countries as far as coming here legally. How is that the U.S.'s fault or problem? Those with an education can immigrate quite easily. Remember, "It's cool to stay in school."
The argument for the costs of attorneys is also null and void. If you can afford "thousands of dollars in smuggling fees" then you can afford "a couple thousand dollars" to hire an attorney. Those who cross illegally simply lack the patience to wait for their reward and want immediate gratification.
Stop crying about the taxes illegals will never get back. As someone who will reach social security age in the late 2030's, there is a good chance I'll never get it back. Bienvenidos a America, frijolero. Those who use fake social security numbers at best, tend to claim married and nine, and at worst are committing identity theft.
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Sneeriousblack 06/09/2011 11:58:00 PM
Living in Glendale Arizona I find no mexicans selling berries and flowers... instead 20-30 standing outside every gas station 4-8 am looking for work that pays under the table aka cheap labor/tax free work. I dont expect our President or Congress to be perfect, however I do expect them to be responsible to protect and secure the "American Peoples " Freedom, Rights,Liberties, and Economic/Financial stabilities. Both Democrat and Republicans are a walking pair of clown shoes. When the economy collapses everyone is to blame at the end of the day even ourselves the average joe for not standing up and saying enough is enough, illegal Immigrants arent the total problem just a piece. I dont blame them for wanting to come to America to have the same chance at a better life for their families. That speaks volumes to me about America....but what do we do when there are no more jobs & our social security goes bye bye and we are stuck relying on Obama care to take care of our illnesses & elderly. What have we put in for and worked hard for all these years? I pray for peace and clarity, I pray for hope and a chance for all families in the world to prosper and live happy.
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koffie 06/09/2011 10:58:00 PM
Easy solution: Two border fences 10 feet high and 150 feet apart on US soil. Between the fences lay land mines with warnigs on the fences. PROBLEM SOLVED.
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06/09/2011 1:06:00 PM
Best solution to most of the immigration problems the U.S. faces is at http://bit.ly/k0Ags6
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Estebanh40 06/09/2011 3:16:00 AM
Hey fgmaxwell, you forgot the a between the F and the g.,......
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El Turkito 06/09/2011 3:14:00 AM
Ask your greasy mama if she thinks I'm a Putp racist piece of garbage
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El Turkito 06/08/2011 11:50:00 PM
I reside in Rio Rico, Az, 12 miles north of the border and I can tell you that the primary resposibility for the illegal entrants is in the hands of the Mexican government who encourages it's poor people to cross the border illegaly for several reasons: those that do make it across the border will earn dollars and send a good % to their families, also Mexico has those millions of it's nationals burdenning the USA and relieving Mexico of any responsibility over their wellbeing, in addition those that end-up dead won't be a further burden to the Mexican government. I can tell you that if a foreigner has a job sponsor in the USA he just needs to present his verifiable I.D. and documentation and the chances are in his favor that he or she will be given a Work-Visa which is renewable. No valid reason for these illegals to burden the USA.