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madcitizen 12/10/2011 2:08:00 AM
why is it always about picking crops. What about construction. GO to any construction site today and count how many white, black, or Asian Americans you will see. Not many because as a certified electrician I will not work for $12 an hour when I should be paid about 17-18 an hour but illegals will work for 12. So they get the job. With millions of Americans out of work I am all for any anti-illegal immigration laws. My kids will not grow up speaking Spanish that is for sure.
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09/29/2011 9:40:00 PM
Cut off the welfare checks and today's unemployed will be Tom Joads, harvesting whatever in order to eat.
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Camial 09/25/2011 3:10:00 AM
orale, white trash get to work, isn't what you mofo's wanted,, ""immigrants are coming to our country and steal our jobs"" now no immigrants,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GET TO WORK
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09/09/2011 6:15:00 PM
I do not think it as a mistake to remove illegal’s from America. What our labor problem is, America has grown lazy with allowing immigrants to work our farms and orchards. It has taken much away from local farmers and their communities by not teaching our children to work hard and learn the benefits from getting back to basics. If we put the 4H clubs back into school, and helped our local farmers, our economy and labor problems would soon turn for the best. It is not up to our government to provide us jobs, we can create community jobs and form community greenhouses and farms to sustain smaller communities and team with larger ones and share the growth. Support your community, get off your butt and help your neighbor. Soon money will be there to payout.
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Bobby 09/03/2011 6:34:00 AM
You said earlier you were only talking about farm labor. Millions of illegal aliens are NOT, picking vegetables. No, they are depressing blue collar jobs, like masonry, roofing, painting, and any thing else greedy employers can get them for. Cut the bullshit. People are not blind.
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Bobby 09/03/2011 6:27:00 AM
The more interesting question is Why are their no Mexicans willing to do this. There isn't any shortage of them hanging around at the Home Depots, Construction outfits, nursuries roofing companies,etc.
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Goober 09/02/2011 8:37:00 PM
elect Ron Paul, he has the solutions that is best for all involved. Dems don't like him, Reps don't like him, find out why. Hint, he has them solutions.
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Bobby 09/01/2011 9:26:00 PM
No one is dying in Mexico, and if they are it hasn't the slightest thing to do with the average American citizen who has to put up with millions of foreign nationals commiting every type of crime and fraud imaginable.
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Bobby 09/01/2011 9:23:00 PM
Correct. Imagine living in a country, where you have paid taxes, your parents have paid taxes, and possibly your grandparents and greatgrandparents. Then millions of foregin nationals, are allowed to take up residence, doing not only farming, but every type of service and blue collar job Americans used to do at a living wage. But the foregin nationals are doing the jobs cheaper and the democrat party,(party of the unions) supports them fully. Then, imagine that these corporations decide that since there are now millions of these foreign natioanls here, it would be better to hire people that speak their language. Well, that nation is now called the United States of America. What would Mexicans, in Mexico, for example, feel if this were happening in Mexico? Yet on this and many thousands of blogs sites in the U.S. the whole idea is thought to be "just fine."
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Dumoudan 09/01/2011 6:08:00 PM
If the 12,000,000 plus illegal immigrants had a political leaning towards the conservative republicans would the pro illegal immigrants group still help with amnesty? I don't think so.
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Magnolia Cazares 08/31/2011 5:29:00 PM
It is just a matter of time till we see the effects of living in a prejudice society. Maybe when the lack of produce hits home and there pocket book they will see how big a mistake they made.
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Dumoudan 08/31/2011 5:02:00 PM
Who are we going to allow to cross the border illegally to do the jobs that Mexican illegal immigrants won't do?
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Obama Whitehouse 08/31/2011 12:20:00 AM
The 12 million illegals didn't disappear. They just moved up to service industry jobs. Now I have to speak Spanish to order lunch.
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Nutrax2005 08/30/2011 8:39:00 PM
Well now here is the big opportunity for unemployed U.S. citizens. What? Watermelons are to heavy and hard to work with? Oh. But I thought you wanted to work. Arizona needs you or it will fall to reality again. Don't want those immigrants filling in the space do you? Or should we just let the melons rot in the field and shame on the farmer for trying?
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Marcy 08/30/2011 2:29:00 PM
Employers aren't permitted to ask if you are a US citizen and the notion that "Employers will not hire US citizens" is absurd. If you are having trouble finding a job it has nothing to do with your citizenship.
BTW, just because someone is brown and speaks Spanish doesn't mean they are in the country illegally.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 2:24:00 PM
Yes, "So excellently said", too bad it's all bullshit.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 2:23:00 PM
"Even JC Penneys has ***undoucumented workers*** working for them, they can't even speak or understand English"
"Employers will not hire U.S. citizens but they are quick to hire ***UNDOCUMENTED Illens (sic)*** to work for them"
You need to go back to school and brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 2:16:00 PM
"Understand something" Bobby, I am not "PRO" Illegal immigration, my ONLY consern here is the Rights of Americans and the Rights of ALL mankind in general, get it through your thick fucking skull, I AM NOT PRO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BUT I AM AGAINST CORRUPT SHERIFFS, CORRUPT SENATE PRESIDENTS, AND CORRUPT GOVERNORS. and against any law enforcement officer or agency that thinks they are above the law because they have a badge. Is that so fucking hard to understand?
I DO NOT, I REPEAT, I DO FUCKING NOT justify violation of Civil Rights of American Citizens ( FELONY ) to catch 1 undocumented worker ( CIVIL MISDEAMEANOR ) as the so called Sheriff did in his last raid. Get it trough your fucking skull numbnuts.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 2:04:00 PM
Stating facts that all, something you seem to have a problem with, but I do realize "facts" do not play a part in your fantasy world.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 2:02:00 PM
We are NOT talking about building the majority of US here genious, we are talking about FARM LABOR, the article is about "FARM LABOR", not about building America.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 1:58:00 PM
Oh so now it's Mexicans, earlier it was "Illegals" on welfare.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 1:57:00 PM
You're the one crying about it. No illegal alien has ever or will ever compete against me for a job, if you are concerned illegals are taking your jobs than you have far more serious problems than illegal immigration.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 1:54:00 PM
And you and Bobby have no clue about real life.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 1:53:00 PM
It does not matter what position you paint in as long as you abide by OSHA mandates you will be safe, it will be a little uncomfortable at times but is not something most workers can't handle; How about that electrician that crowls around in your attic at 150 degrees and full of fiberglass insulation to run wires or troubleshoot a problem, do you think he is having fun? I rather paint an industrial building upside down than than do that.
"rather than focusing on the usual people you do, like the Sheriff, governor,etc."
Now the reason Arizona has turned into a Clown State, the laughling stock and disgrace to the nation is precisely because people like the Governor, the Maricopa County Sheriff, and the Senate President, these imbeciles were left unchecked far too long, but not to worry, Arizonans have finally seen the light and we wont rest until these cancers are removed. Thank you for your concern.
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US War Veteran 08/30/2011 1:33:00 PM
"Think about it. The military is basically a conservative organization."
Are you brain dead? the Military is NEITHER a conservative nor liberal organization, you are confusing rule, order, and strict Military discipline for political affiliation. The Military mission only cares about protecting the United States Constitution and United States Citizens from ALL enemies Foreign and Domestic (pearce), THAT is the only requirement of the oath you take upon joining. Military members are free to make they own choice as to whether they want to be liberal or conservatives as long as it doesn't interfere with your oath, or as long you dont get too conservative like Rus-Sell Pearce and start advocating treason and seccesion, or Tim Mcveigh and start blowing up government buildings. Yes, there is a huge side effect of being TOO conservative. Unless ofcourse you think the US Armed Forces is just like you home grown neo-nazi organization where ideology is the core mission.
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Marcy 08/30/2011 12:54:00 PM
The border can't be "secured", deaths can't be prevented but the more "secure" the border is the more migrant workers who die without a reasonable migrant worker guest program.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 7:07:00 AM
Think about it. The military is basically a conservative organization. It doesn't like these leftist concepts about American citizens like nativist, as a rule.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:35:00 AM
Your'e flat out crazy. You try to paint an industrial building in positions where your'e body is half bent or sideways, or practically upside down at times. You haven't got a clue, And do you imagine painting is done in the shade? Also, you misrepresented what farm workers can't do. They do get breaks, they do have field latrines, in fact the government has made this mandatory in many farms in California. If Arizona's different, than here is something you clowns can actually work on that would benefit someone, rather than focusing on the usual people you do, like the Sheriff, governor,etc.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:30:00 AM
If you believe the point of my whole posts are that illegal aliens are taking jobs away from ME, you've havn't been paying any attention at all.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:28:00 AM
They aren't blind. The simple fact is that many Mexicans don't want to do this work, that is why we have hundreds of thousands of them on State welfare in California, for example. I'm sure that just because some mexicans live in Arizona, it doesn't mean they all want to pick lettuce. Right. We have to bring this stuff down to earth, because according to the left, if mexicans split from the US. and went back to Mexico, we'd be dead. So absurd a thought that it makes a rational person want to barf.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:25:00 AM
And you can bet US War Veteran knows what he's talking about. Well, actually, I wouldn't bet on it.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:24:00 AM
You can believe anything you want to. I don't feel I'm attacking Mexicans as individuals. I am attacking, it's true, the leftist groups and ethnic interest groups that continually stoke the fires of disncontent many of these people have. And why shouldn't I or anyone else that cares about this country, when people with a little insight can see it's going to lead to hell. In short amigo, most Americans don't want this nation latinized. That may not be a pleasant thought but it's true. I even know latino's that don't want it latanized especially with a country as corrupt as Mexico, having any influence over us. Yeah, we DON'T want it.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:19:00 AM
You are so full of shit, that it isn't even worth debating with you. If you think slaves built the majority of the U.S. you don't know much of anything about this coutnry.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:18:00 AM
"I am not defending illegal immigration........
Has to be the headline of the month.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:15:00 AM
Understand something folks, it's easy to see that although this fellow gives himself the name US War Veteran, his message is totally incongruent. He is fighting for some other cause that isn't American. Case closed. The scary part is 5 people agree with him and knowning this liberal blog, I woudln't doubt it's more like 500. Yes, this country is polarized. But not like the left would like to paint it good Americans vs. nativists, as US War Veteran constantly does. I would say it's traitors vs. patriots, I'll leave it to people with insight to determine who is who.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:11:00 AM
You know that was'nt her message.
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Bobby 08/30/2011 4:10:00 AM
So excellently said, but it will fall on the deaf ears of most of those posting here. You see, that think everything's about picking vegetables in the hot sun. No it isn't. It's about merging the U.S. with one of the most corrupt nations in the world, Mexico, and forcing wages down to the bare minimum. That is exactly why JC Penneys, and every other company imaginable tries to use cheap bottom line illegal labor. The stupid fools on this blog don't care or possibly even realize, that Americans fought a long and bitter fight, a long time ago, to establish unions and good pay and some basic rights. Yet, all they talk about here are the rights of the "undocumented" that are being used to take away the rights of Americans. Clueless!
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Enuf Istoomuch 08/29/2011 2:46:00 PM
Secure The Border ! No More Deaths!
A Weak Border KILLS Migrant Workers!
STOP THE HYPOCRISY!
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 11:15:00 PM
BULLSHIT!, European Americans imported slave labor to work for them.
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 11:13:00 PM
Not trying to defame anybody, but a union painter or mechanic does not know the meaning of labor compared to filed workers.
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 11:11:00 PM
Lost me again?????
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 11:10:00 PM
"No one from the military uses the term "nativist".
??????you lost me on this one pal?????
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 11:08:00 PM
Yeah that's 1 way of puting it. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what am I going to do with you.
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Bobby 08/28/2011 10:36:00 PM
Sittin around in the background. Figures.
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Bobby 08/28/2011 10:35:00 PM
Typical bullshitter. Just excuse the solid arguments that you don't like when your'e faced with them. You aren't military. No one from the military uses the term "nativist".
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Bobby 08/28/2011 10:29:00 PM
Yep, as I thought you got no clue about real work.
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Bobby 08/28/2011 10:22:00 PM
You writing here about your support of illegality talking about massaging stories. That's funny.
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Hrobster 08/28/2011 10:20:00 PM
Screw you trying to defame someones personal story.
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Bobby 08/28/2011 10:17:00 PM
NO, FIRST IT WAS EUROPEAN AMERICANS.
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Samkree135 08/28/2011 2:43:00 PM
Gloria shut the front door
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08/28/2011 3:46:00 AM
Sounds to me like you may well be onto something dude.
www.anon-vpn.us.tc
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 2:43:00 AM
Damn copy and paste, did it again.
*return to the country..
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 2:41:00 AM
oops: *spouses
*return the country
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 2:38:00 AM
So if a person does not speak english they are illegal immigrants? WOW! INCREDIBLE!
I did not realized all those spouces brought to the US by service men and women from overseas that speak very little or no english were illegals; And those children born IN the United States and taken to other countries at an early age so they grow up learn another language and later want to return the the country they were born in as adults were also ILLEGALS!
WE NEED TO ROUND UP EVERY PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND DEPORT THEM NOW! THEY ARE ILLEGALS AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE! DEPORT THEM! DEPORT THEM I TELL YOU!
/Sarcasum-off
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Gloriachia55 08/28/2011 2:25:00 AM
MAYBE if all the Mexican laborers were not working at Burger King, McDonalds, Walmart or other fast food place or store THERE would be more laborers to work in the fields. That just goes to show that the employers are NOT E VERYING people they hire. Even JC Penneys has undoucumented workers working for them, they can't even speak or understand English but there they are working in the store and when you ask them for assistance and THEY can't understand you, very quickly a english speaking person comes to their aid. Employers will not hire U.S. citizens but they are quick to hire UNDOCUMENTED Illens to work for them. I'm so sick and tired of see people appear on tv saying that there are not enought Mexican laborers to work in the fields....Here is a hint look for then at Jack in the Box, McDonalds,Burger King etc....
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 1:57:00 AM
oops: I AM surprised.......
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US War Veteran 08/28/2011 1:39:00 AM
US Air Force, F-15E Weapons Systems Officer affectionaly known as Wizzo.
By the way kissing ass in the military only gets you and your people killed because if you do it and you get promoted above your skill level, is very, very dangerous.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 9:07:00 PM
Adrian, I would have to disagree, the Mexicans are not invaders, they colonized, mapped and settled this land before any of us got here and robbed them of their land, and by us I mean any Europeans, or European descendants. That would be like telling Native Americans "get out of America, you dont belong here".
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 9:01:00 PM
Well said.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 9:00:00 PM
Very intelligent post, tell me how long did it take you to come up with that?
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:58:00 PM
I find it very interresting that you mention "anchor babies" and "propaganda" in the same post, at least you didn't put it in the same sentence. I dont know why but I just want to say "hypocrite" over and over again, now I can't get that word out of my mind. Damn the bad luck.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:53:00 PM
I surprised you are making taxes such a big part of your argument, I am not defending illegal immigration but I should tell you, even illegal immigrants pay taxes, they pay taxes on absolutely everything they buy, from food, clothes, tools, gas, to cars and houses (rent or own it doesn't matter). they also pay income tax, how you ask? simple, their employers have to pay taxes, they are not going to pull that out of their pockets so they withold that from their employees, the difference now between you and I and illegal immigrants is that while you and I can file an income tax return and include our expenses on it to get some of that money back, illegal immigrants can not file returns, so the State and Federal Governments keep all that money collected, so ultimately they pay as much if not more than us.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:42:00 PM
I get it, but I also know that if that "cheap Labor" isn't there they will have to hire whom ever is willing to do the job at whatever cost, they will not let Billions of dollars rot in the fileds, this article is about a farmer not having enough poeple to do the job, but at the same time and dont see Bobby and his friends lining up at the farmers office and telling him they are willing to do the job and start negociating a prize.
"Americans have always done thos kinds of jobs."
Agreed, first it was African Americans for no pay, then Latino Americans for little pay. Times have changed, but not much, it's always about profit.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:33:00 PM
Shit, there goes my fresh fruits and vegetables, now where did I put that canned food?
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:32:00 PM
And Bobby, you really are a closet nazi arent you?
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:30:00 PM
And my mother thinks I'm very good looking too. ;-)
Seriously, I do appologize for that comment, I do not know your daughter and it was improper for me to say that, I sincerely appologize.
P.S. Just remember 1 thing, Rus_SELL Pearce and his supporters love to go after children, even unborn children of Latinos, I dont know where you stand on that, but when you go after someone elses children that opens the door wide open for others to go after your own, hell even the mafia respected wives and children.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:11:00 PM
They dont want to be accused of hiring Mexicans, they are waiting for you, Bobby, and the rest of tea baggers to go work the fields, since you are the ones complaining illegals are taking "your" jobs.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:07:00 PM
Mechanic, Painter, Unions???? Jesus H Christ boy, you dont know the meaning of labor yet, drop some balls and go work the fields with no air conditioning, no bathroom breaks, no 15 min. break every 2 hours, no 30 min. lunch after 4, no overtime after 8......
"You people don't know how crazy you sound."
And you dont know how stupidly ignorant you sound, painter, mechanic, PPPLLLEEEEEZZZZZ. Next you're going to tell me Billiards is an Olympic Sport.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 8:00:00 PM
So now you are changing your story from "these illegals are taking american jobs" to "and I both know that they wouldn't go and "pick tomatoes", or get their hands dirty either. Most of them are probably collecting the same State help"
I see, so in your world facts do not stand in the way of agendas, instead they get "massaged" to fit occasion, it's a beautifull tea bagger tactic, too bad it only works with people with double digit IQ's. But don't worry fluffer girl, you are winning, you and the rest of double digit IQ imbeciles are the mayority in Arizona, you out number us 2 to 1, but what we are counting on is that when you tea baggers finally drop some balls and declare your seccession from the US and in escense trigger the next Civil War, you will be too dumb to know that you need to pull the pin before you throw the grenade, or that you need to put the safety to the OFF position to fire., err, never mind what I just said, you need to leave the pin in the grenade or else it will blow up in your face, the impact of the grenade landing unpins it, and if you put a weapon to the OFF position you are actually turning it off, so it wont fire. Got that, good.
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Bobby 08/27/2011 7:46:00 PM
Yeah, what did you do in the military? There are thousands of kissy ass, jack-off positions in the military, and I'm sure you did one of them.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 7:44:00 PM
No, no, no fluffer girl, you claimed illegals were stealing american jobs, now that jobs are open I dont see you and your fellow nativist running to go and do these jobs, dont muddy up the waters, this has nothing to do with 5 kids, state aid, or not enough pay, you said you wanted illegal out so you and your firends can do those jobs, well again, the jobs are open, better hurry up and go grab them before another illegal crosses to border and takes it. Go, run, run Forrest, the job is waiting for you.
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US War Veteran 08/27/2011 7:38:00 PM
Unless you served in the US Military (or any military for that matter) and were unfortunately enough to have to serve during war time, any job you have ever had is childs play, fluffer girl.
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adrian 08/27/2011 7:34:00 PM
Americansaredumb
You are really dumb, and you right we Mexicans may be invaders but it is not different from what your ancestor did DUMB.
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ragin 08/27/2011 1:46:00 PM
ignorance is bliss....let arizona starve in their blindness....
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Bob 08/27/2011 6:26:00 AM
"They don't earn enough to pay income taxes and if they aren't in the country legally the pay Social Security taxes but aren't eligible to collect benefits."
No, but their anchor baby children ARE eligible to collect benefits. You can see this all day every day if you know anyone involved in PHX social services. Just ask them. "American" (lol) kids are eligible for poverty assistance, no matter if their parents are illegals or not. And aid checks do not get addressed to children, they get addressed to guardians which means, yes...you guessed it: illegals can and do get 'government checks' all the time.
But then you probably already knew that, but typically don't want to ever bring that up because it doesn't help your amnesty case and throws an ugly light on your political propaganda.
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Bobby 08/27/2011 6:26:00 AM
No one's pretending anything when it comes to you anti-white racists.
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Bob 08/27/2011 6:20:00 AM
Yes, and those immigrants you mentioned, the Irish and Poles, followed the laws and rules of immigration to the USA at that time period.
But we are not talking about 80 or 100 years ago, as you very well know. We are talking about RIGHT NOW, and guess what Marcy? Poles and Irish have to jump through ALL sorts of hoops to try to emigrate to the USA. So why should Mexicans be treated any different? Are you racist or something?
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Bob 08/27/2011 6:17:00 AM
Typical stupid brain washed suburban liberal.
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Marcy 08/27/2011 4:01:00 AM
BTW, you are obviously delusional if you think minimum wage was $6.75/hr "almost 20 years ago". It is $7.35/hr in Arizona today. 20 years ago was 1991 and minimum wage was $4.25/hr.
You sound upset and angry, get some anger therapy.
This is about changing to laws back to something that was working before racist dimwits like you demanded the laws governing guest labor be changed in the misguided belief that farm workers from Mexico were taking jobs from Americans.
I used to wander down to Mexico all the time, no paperwork, no visa, no passport, I just walked across the border. No problem and nobody hassling me. I travel frequently to other countries, most recently I was in another country for three weeks and rarely carried a single shred of ID. Left my passports in my safe in my apartment, no need for a driver's license since I wasn't driving, just took some money and a single debit card. Nobody was going to lock me up.
But you just keep that fire burning in your fevered imagination about immigrants being an awful problem in the US when the reality is far different.
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Marcy 08/27/2011 3:52:00 AM
Farm workers, legal or not, pay Social Security taxes, sales taxes and every other tax you mentioned. They don't earn enough to pay income taxes and if they aren't in the country legally the pay Social Security taxes but aren't eligible to collect benefits.
I'm quite familiar with what American demand for illegal drugs has done to Mexico.
Long ago $20K/yr was real money, now it isn't and people who make $20k/yr don't pay Federal income taxes. In fact about HALF of all LEGAL US residents who filed income tax returns paid ZERO federal income taxes.
Working hard in the farm fields isn't the definition of a leech honey. You sitting home on your couch collecting unemployment is.
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Americansaredumb 08/27/2011 2:43:00 AM
Marcy in the USA we live like civilized people thanks to income tax, sales tax and property tax.
See, public services such as police and fire department, water, sewage, traffic signals, roads, parks, street lamps, bus service, libraries, recycling/garbage, all cost money. These services are not free.
Yes before income tax was implemented people were still taxed, just differently.
Yes, long ago when I jade 20k per year I still had income tax taken out of my paycheck. I worked at a subway when I was 16, almost 20 years ago. I remember, I made minimum wage which was about 6.75 an hour. At part time, since I was still in high school, I remember my paychecks being about 175-200 every couple weeks. Guess what, they took income tax out.
You are mistaken. I am not the problem. I follow the laws of this land, which is the united states of America.
The people who are the problem are you and your roach friends who think the laws don't apply to them. This includes congress who are usurping their constituents. Do you know what that word means or is it above your Mexican educated head? Constituents = taxpayers. Congress works for taxpayers. Mayors work for taxpayers. The president and government work for taxpayers. We pay their salaries. In a republic the citizens are the government.
The USA is a republic. You ever heard the pledge of alliegence? "...to the republic for which it stands...".
What happens If I sneak into Mexico? Tell me. What happens you fucking ignorant cunt?
You want to see mexican lawless culture? Google 53 killed in Monterrey when drug cartel lit a casino on fire.
Well thank god. 53 less roaches to invade and leech off of US taxpayers.
Illegal is not a race, it is a crime.
Anyone who is here illegally, Mexican, polish, Irish, Bosnian, Muslim, Chinese, get the fuck out. Go back to where you came from and come back LEGALLY. Follow our fucking laws.
Bitch
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Marcy 08/27/2011 2:13:00 AM
Taxes are what helped build the USA strong?
Interesting, when do you think the Federal income tax came into existence? And do you really think that people who earn < $20K/yr pay income taxes?
Do you know what it took for the Irish and Poles to legally migrate to the US? They had to show up and sign their name. That's was it. Joe Arpaio's parents hopped on a tramp streamer without a visa or a passport or the prior permission of the United States and showed up in the US.
Illegal immigration isn't the problem you and your fellow uneducated red neck goobers want to pretend it is.
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Americansaredumb 08/26/2011 8:48:00 PM
What a racist crock of shit this article is. Mexican labors. Please. What about polish or Irish laborers. You fucking beans think you are the only people who ever grew and picked their own food? Get real. If it weren't for the spainards fucking the whore native Indians you mexis wouldnt exist.
Listen, American idiots are used to picking crops because they are spoiled brats thanks to stupid parents and mainstream media. Every stupid kid nowadays knows nothing more than playstation, American idol and Justin bieber.
The parents need to turn that shit off and teach their kid how to make a life for themselves. The schools aren't going to teach them. Schools today are nothing more than indoctrination farms, creating herds of brain dead sheep.
I have nothing against mexicans wanting to come here for a better life, even though they are too coward to stay in Mexico and fight to make it a better place, but they need to come here LEGALLY. They need to pay taxes like my mother and father do, like my grandmother and grandfather did.
Taxes is what helped to build the USA strong. People migrating here LEGALLY and becoming US citizens.
These illegals today are not immigrants, they are invaders who sneak here, and then steal identities and leech off of taxpayers.
Boo fucking hoo about your shortage of mexi laborers. I'll grow and pick my own food. It will probably be far better than that shit the assho,e FDA passes too, what with all that gmo and cloned manufactured shit they are allowing people to eat.
Ps fuck the nwo. And fuck illegals. Illegal is not a race, it is a crime.
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08/26/2011 7:47:00 PM
Point out where I "idolized" manual labor Bobby. Actually, I demonized it in the terms that this is work that US citizens now feel that is beneath them. I don't dispute that you know people who've done physical work before; I have done it and know many as well. I also think you and I may have come from a time when different - stronger - work ethics were held. One where Americans truly would get out and do whatever they needed to do (legally) to put food on the plate and keep a roof over their heads. Likewise, I recall a couple friends I had in high school (early 80's) who spent one night as dishwashers and walked off the job because it was "too hard".
You have claimed time and time again that illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from US citizens.
There are over 300,000 Arizona residents unemployed right now.
Why are they not lining up to work when there are clearly jobs out there?
My point Bobby, was more to the fact that we have made it far more attractive to US citizens to sit at home and collect benefits than it is to get out and work. Welfare reform would have gone a long way towards mitigating today's need for illegal immigrants to do work that Americans can and should be doing themselves.
You blame the illegal immigrant for the problem.
I say the blame lies squarely on our shoulders.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:41:00 PM
These people are for the most part, anti-white and malcontents. It's funny, because you and I both know that they wouldn't go and "pick tomatoes", or get their hands dirty either. Most of them are probably collecting the same State help, that many of their illegal alien heros receive. That's why they don't want to hear anything about it.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:38:00 PM
Of course the implication of your post Comrade Mistalee, is that Mexicans are somehow superior workers than Americans. My answer to that would be yes, and no. There are hundreds of thousands of Mexicans in California that don't want to "pick tomatoes", etc. No, instead they lay around collecting child services checks, with the help of their anchor babies, or commiting document fraud, like I.D. theft and other crap. Do you have to have an official I.D. to "pick tomatoes". Of course you don't you asshole.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:31:00 PM
You dumb ass, compared to the kinds of jobs I've had, you probably haven't done shit in the way of real work.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:29:00 PM
Rob, are you for real, honestly? Americans by the millions, including myself, have worked at thousands of jobs where we have sweated, gotten our hands dirty, and all the rest. My uncle was a heavy equipement mechanic, my friends dad was a painter when painters had unions. As a kid I remember him coming home in the typical painter outfit of that time, and he was dog tired. He did it to raise his family, pay his mortagage etc. He didn't get any help from the state, not a cent. You and your fellow bloggers idolization of manuel labor seems to stop at illegal aliens. You people don't know how crazy you sound.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:23:00 PM
You dumb ass and your fellow dumb ass bloggers, listen up. If they did those jobs, without the usual sticking Americans with some other crap, like state aid for their 5 kids because the farmer doesn't pay them enough, then my attitude would be more power to them.
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08/26/2011 5:07:00 PM
Nice. Now cut down the teenage girl... I guess you do know everything, huh? My bad.
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Bobby 08/26/2011 7:13:00 AM
You have to understand, some of the bloggers here are really Mexican nationalists at heart. They have to be. Who in their right mind, would want millions of people to be satisfied with low paying jobs that you can barely live on, but at the same time act as if it's some kind of triumph when there are people that do them. These IDIOTS, don't realize that since we have social programs throughout the U.S., unlike good old mexico, the taxpayer always in a hundred different ways makes up for the low pay of these farmworkers. They also don't realize that only the farmer gets rich. Let me put it simply to YOU ANTI-CAPITALIST MORONS, WHAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING FOR IS SUBSIDIZED LABOR, You're paying for the fruit and helping to pay the farmers expenses.
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Hrobster 08/26/2011 7:06:00 AM
The "farmers" want the cheapest labor possible US War Veteran. That IS one of the problems with illegal labor, and guys like you just can't get that through your thick heads. Americans have always done thos kinds of jobs. Who the hell do you think did them all through the midwest, and elswhere as this country was growing. Your view is all fucked up because of your exclusive focus on the Southwest, including California, where farmers were always trying to screw farm workers. Ever heard of Ceasar Chavez and the struggle for decent wages? Illegal immigration was constantly a problem with his trying to organize unions.
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Not Surprised 08/26/2011 6:44:00 AM
@rest
I call bullshit on your post! They'll hire any hardworker with 2 legs, 2 arms/hands, and a strong back!
For those who have no way to get to the worksite or can't figure out how to get there, I've suggested someone set-up bus(ses) for transportation...for example, Arpaio has at least one bus that's not in use right now!
As for no phones, as I understand it, phones/phone service aren't necessary in order for one to perform the task of pitching watermelons!
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:53:00 AM
This bitch doing this kind of work, forget it, he would rather be a fluffer girl.
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:50:00 AM
Yes, yes he could, we could collar him and he could plow the fields like an ox, but in this case it would be like a fat pig.
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:47:00 AM
No way man, he would try to smoke anything green he finds in the field and try to make moonshine out of fruits and vegetables.
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:44:00 AM
Half day? Brother I hate to tell you this but you are being overly generous, Bobby wouldn't last an hour.
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:42:00 AM
Is she showing up in high heels, filing her finger nails, and talking on the cell phone while asking for a job? I wouldn't hire her either.
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US War Veteran 08/26/2011 5:37:00 AM
The Motherfuckers have legs dont they? WALK YOU LASSY BITCHES! WALK!
cars and busses are a modern invention, man did not have them before and managed to walk to the fields and work them just fine. You and your idiot friends kept saying "oh the illegals are taking our jobs", well, there are the jobs, go get 'em, what are you waiting for, go , run Forest, run! I wager you punks would not last 1 hour working those fields.
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08/26/2011 3:30:00 AM
Wow, you sure are full of shit. Having a fun time making things up?
Of course "they" will hire white people. Don't think so? Go hustle a job as a farm worker.