Next came Maricopa County Superior Court, as Shannon, who had dropped out of school, was convicted of car theft charges soon after turning 19. He served more than a year in prison, the first of his five felony and 13 misdemeanor convictions.

Palmer's mental problems were palpable, as were his ongoing issues with illegal drugs (he used methamphetamine, according to court records).

Doctors certified him in the 1990s as seriously mentally ill, making him eligible for treatment with Maricopa County's behavioral-health agency, called ComCare.

The isolation wing at the Buckley Unit, Lewis State Prison.
The isolation wing at the Buckley Unit, Lewis State Prison.
Murder victim Shannon Palmer in the early 1980s.
Courtesy of Len Palmer
Murder victim Shannon Palmer in the early 1980s.

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He was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, a chronic mental illness in which (according to the Mayo Clinic) "a person loses touch with reality — psychosis. The classic features are having delusions and hearing things that aren't real."

By all accounts, Shannon Palmer's mother tried desperately to keep him out of trouble and sought endlessly to find him intensive mental-health help.

Nothing seemed to work, including the relationship Palmer had with a woman who gave birth to their daughter in the early '90s.

In 1993, a county judge sentenced Palmer to seven years in prison on a burglary rap.

Despite his schizophrenia, mental-health professionals repeatedly found him "competent" to stand trial, often after first deeming him "incompetent" to understand legal matters or aid with his defense.

The "restoration" process assumes that someone was competent at one time and just needs proper meds and "re-education" to move forward.

The end result for Palmer inevitably was prison, not a psychiatric ward.

He was released from custody in January 2000, with no disciplinary infractions on his prison record.

Palmer tried off and on to live independently, collecting about $600 monthly in disability income and working at times for his mother's janitorial service.

But, as Len Palmer suggests, life in society proved just too much for Shannon to handle.

In December 2003, Chandler police responded to calls of gunfire in a residential neighborhood. Officers found Palmer in his backyard, with three expended shell casings from a handgun nearby. It is unclear where he had gotten the weapon.

Palmer told the police he was "paranoid" and had taken an overdose of meds and brandy and was planning to commit suicide but lost his nerve.

He said he discharged the gun "to terminate the voices in my head."

Instead, the cops arrested Palmer for misconduct involving weapons, a crime made more serious because, as a felon, he was a "prohibited possessor" of firearms.

He was sentenced in late 2003 to nearly four more lonely years behind bars.

"It was nice to get a letter, as I have only you and my mom that write me," he wrote his father from prison in November 2006.

After his mid-2007 release, Palmer's parents found an apartment in Mesa for him and hoped for the best. His father says that arrangement lasted only a few weeks.

"He ended up back on the streets pretty quick," Len Palmer says. "But his mother made sure he had a cell phone. He called me one time. Said he had just gotten a new bedroll. A homeless guy with a cell phone. He sounded happy, but it was sad."

By late August 2008, Shannon Palmer had moved back in with his mother in Mesa, increasingly absorbed with thoughts of the "evil forces" aligned against him.

On the afternoon of August 29, Palmer walked a short distance from his mom's home to a Salt River Project power pole as one of the summer's biggest storms swept into the Valley.

Fortified with vodka, Palmer climbed about 100 feet up the pole, dangerously close to the live high-power lines.

Mesa police and fire negotiators spoke to Palmer for about two hours before he stepped down safely. It made for quite a little story on the evening news.

Palmer told police he had gone up there to "escape the feds," who were stalking him, he said.

Salt River Project officials sought prosecution, and a Mesa officer noted that Palmer "admitted knowing it was against the law to climb up the power pole."

That was enough for prosecutors.

A county grand jury indicted Palmer on several charges, the most serious being criminal damage, a felony with serious ramifications because of his prior record.

More than a year passed, as evaluators again tried to determine whether Palmer was mentally competent to stand trial and, later, whether he was competent to be sentenced.

In September 2009, a psychologist broke a tie between two other evaluators and said Palmer was fit to be sentenced to prison.

"His mother was at wit's end because of the revolving door — in and out of prison," recalls David Lockhart, his lawyer at the time. "Shannon had major underlying mental-health issues, but he seemed like more of a nuisance than a danger to the community."

A county probation officer reported to the judge what this supposedly competent gentleman had told her before sentencing:

"He [said he] had no control over his actions in the present offense, and it had nothing to do with his mental health issues. He stated that in 1999, the Marines, National Security Agency, and the U.S. Secret Service forcefully inserted a tracking device into his leg designed to follow him and tell him what to do.

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kdenisework
kdenisework

I just don't believe that prisoners can use or obtain a razor blade or even books that create a paper cut when they're in prison without supervision. This is one of the most disgusting stories I have ever read... they should have moved them both to a temporary holding cell due to the lack of light. A murderer and a mentally ill person that talked non-sense should have never been together in the first place... I believe there should be one in-mate per cell... and the people that are mentally ill in a separate facility/prison for them. Keeping this in prayer..


Kevin_4949
Kevin_4949

Its the departments fault just pay off a few million dollars more.

Bostonpride
Bostonpride

How sick and twisted is that- they put a mentally ill man in with a convicted sicko- to have him killed- this is just another sad story of a mentally ill person who needed to be on meds and get the proper treatment, but instead the law enforcement reacted wrong and instead of sending him to hospital to get treatment just made it worse- I wish more people are educated on the mentally ill and get them the help they need and help them see it through-

Tracym2fpaz
Tracym2fpaz

It's cheaper to just incarcerated than treet the mentally ill

Ramonago
Ramonago

Docked 40 hours pay? What about a prison sentence for negligence? The mentally ill gentleman was a patient. The guards and administration all bear the responsibility for his death. What a horrible and dysfunctional system that allows the most vulnerable members of its society to suffer.

Brenda_zastoupil
Brenda_zastoupil

The reason the Government did that through the prison state police, is because the manwas not mentally ill. Mr. Parker was a mind control victim who was innocent;so in order for the government to cover up this mind control victim in which theyhad scale a utility pole, they put Mr. Parker in with Mr.Jasper Rushing becausehe was a mass murderer; therefore, keeping the electronic mind control,organized stalking and electronic harassment hidden even more...But what is ridiculous, all the search engines have copious amountsof information on "electronic mind control" "electromagnetic mind control," "organized stalking," "electronic harassment," and targeted individual..www.wanttoknow.info under mind control or www.educate-yourself.org under mind controlYou may also google "James Walbert," who has implants by the Governmentalong with many others. Here's a Implant Article from the Washington Posthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/...

In addition, you don't have to be implanted to be mind controlled;it's all part of the New World Order. I've been a victim of this torturous crime,that is the biggest and worst crime in America as reported by ABC News,for the past 17 years. Here's my story that is listed in NCI Magazine Publication.http://www.truedemocracy.net/h...

Here are several other Targeted Individuals, (TIs) stories of thishorrific crime of electronic mind technology, Directed Energy Weapon,Voice-to-Skull (V2K) and Microwave Technology being used on innocent individualsincluding celebrities such as Randy Quaid, Britney Spears, Lindsey LohanMel Gibson, Heath Ledger and many more who don't even know:

http://www.truedemocracy.net/h...

Danny
Danny

I spent 6 years in state prison. I have also spent time in that very same iso unit. I was on that yard the time of that murder, and just a couple months earlier was in those iso cells. It does not surprise me this happened, and of all the complexes I was at (tuscon & florence) the others by far lewis has the most rogue officers. Most are very immature & I could see it like it was yesterday an officer laughing at a request like Mr palmers. I was convicted of forgery and was celled in iso cells a number of times with murders or other violent offenders. One of my last cellies who assaulted me was on a minoimum security yard covicted of 2 2nd dgree murders & an aggravated assault. Mark Colborn 073668. Check him out to verify what I'm saying is all true. I would love to help both sides in this case. Shannon should have never died. He was not a threatening guy. He was just dillusional and annoying. This kind of stuff is going to happen more frequently with the new way they classify & supervise inmates today. Contact me at danielpwhite1@hotmail.com if I can answer any more questions

Lilredsparkie1
Lilredsparkie1

You have that right Danny my son has been there also it is gladeter camp as he called it. He has been in an out and says lewis is the wrost for stupidity/ this guy should of been put in Rincon whitch is a med mental facility. But you no DOC doesnt not care about inmates they care bout the money and to them it is a meat market and who cares what happen to any man or women in there, that is how it is I have been around the system for many many years and it truly sucks they just dont care about the men and women in side. DOC should be held accountable also

Anon
Anon

"Gov. Brewer approves $50 million in stimulus money for Corrections" | Arizona Capitol Times | Find Articles at BNEThttp://findarticles.com/p/news...

Nothing for education, health care, job training or growing the community.

samiam
samiam

Why? Get use to these types of stories folks! When our governor cut health care, she cut all adults without children. So thousands of jobs were lost and thousands of adults with mental illnesses are now roaming your streets untreated! Thanks Jan

anon
anon

OMG! Duh! I've been seeing it right and left!

restitutiontouscitizensfirst!
restitutiontouscitizensfirst!

Prison culture through-out the nation. NYPD officer dies - doctor agrees illness and death is from 911 exposure - Medical Examiner's office seize body during grieving family's service - because they just have to disprove the doctors' findings and prevent anybody ever having any illness claim due to 911 exposure through their job!

City ghouls grab '9/11' cop corpseShock grieving family at wake

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l...

This corruption is not specific to Arizona. It is nationwide. It is worldwide. Look at Fukushima radiation in Japan! Didn't hear about it? Cuz their radiation is affecting us here too. Global media stifle truth and cause pain suffering and loss to millions on behalf of corporate and government bean counters. They don't need us anymore. They don't want us. They have no respect for human life and they never get prosecuted for it.

T
T

Discrimination Suit Against Arizona Sheriff DismissedUpdated: Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011, 12:27 PM MSTPublished : Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011, 7:32 AM MST

PHOENIX - A federal judge has tossed out a lawsuit accusing the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office of discrimination, negligence and abuse during a worksite enforcement raid.

U.S. District Court Judge Stephen McNamee issued a ruling that dismissed the suit on the grounds the Sheriff's Office and county administrators did not know of, participate in or authorize any unconstitutional conduct during the February 2009 raid on a Phoenix landscaping firm.

Celia Alvarez was among the 40 people arrested on suspicion of identity theft and fraud claimed in her lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office that she was subjected to unreasonable search and seizure and was injured by a deputy during the raid.

The judge ruled the defendant could not prove her case.

Anon
Anon

Arizona's ruling class has been given another pass. Raises questions about who's pulling the strings.

Cabelsmyth33
Cabelsmyth33

Excellent story, one of the best that your best writer has written which is saying something. Congratulations, Paul Rubin, from an old fan

patti
patti

Patti Jones

Great Idea and you are so right that is ADOC's insight on treatment of the mentally-ill within their own system all the way to the top even psychiatrists treating these individuals do not care the whole system needs to be changed begining at the top an agency is as good as who is at the top just remember when Andrew Thomas was in office all he wanted was conviction at any cost!!! It is time for a new reign; one of honesty, respect for human life; after all we do live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ; Remember this Sept 11, will mark the ten year anniversary date of 9-11 our country's most horrific tragedy; such a display total disregard fior human life an act of inhumanity by the world's most sadistic human being. I was so proud to be an american when our whole country came together to help thiose who lost loved ones. But today here we are ten years later in Arizona and we have such acts of inhumanity here within the ADOC with the treatment of the mentally-ill!!! Let us all reflect on that day in Sept 11 just ten years ago and do the right thing and be proud that we live in the most wonderful country in the world and do the right thing HELP OUR MENTALLY-ILL within the ADOC!!!

Yodabama
Yodabama

It's not just in prison that the mentally ill are being treated with such indignity and inhumanity it's throughout our society. Our country has been taken over by the "me-me" mentality a society where a man's "value" is placed on the amount of money he has.

patti
patti

Patti Jones

I agree, it is the whole society, but it is quite unfortunate the the seriously mentally-ill will end up in the criminal justice system and thus eventially end up in our prison system and are treated so inhumanely. But you are so right our society needs to become aware if this culture of indifference and negligence. Thank-you for caring please write to our law makers and govonor.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

"Do you think that the increased police brutality and increased prison brutality has any relationship to 911 First Responders and their treatment.”

Although your post is related to 9 11 responders the elements of stress, anxiety, and mood disorders described have been seen personally by me and many others [although they will deny publicly] who have worked the jails and prisons, the relevance is important. I think you have a pulse on why correctional officers act the way they do and why critical incidents occur because of the environmental influences of the evil culture that exists inside prisons, hospitals, elder communities, government offices, private organizations and in general, in our society. The core of the distortion comes from those who may have “Marginalized human beings” and justified their deaths as a normal way of life inside the prisons giving up any hopes of fair treatment, humane and respectful supervision and proper custodial responsibility exercises for those targeted as victims of their anger, their wrath, their mistrust and their opinion of self-worth in society.

Focusing on this phrase there is a significant message hidden that is an absolute factor of the prison culture and its customs and traditions – it could be summarized with an attitude of “them versus us”; typical of the tools of intimidation and self-preservation. This ideology is brought down from the top in the creation, infusion and injection of a hate message that is realistically echoed inside every prison or jail that prisoners, especially those that are mentally ill are worthless and nobody will miss them because they are crazy. The justification of feeling the way they do comes from the morality crawling inside our society, the administration’s repudiation to address negative cultural impact, the development of staff personnel by training staff orientating new personnel that inmates are maggots and the lowest form of human life, the mentors who reinforce this doctrine, the role models who deliberately steer others away from correct policies and procedures showing them radical shortcuts, and their peers making the practice of deliberate indifference, withholding food, mail, property or other personal items allowed by policy to control behaviors, inflict physical or mental torture to show control and power, violate civil right laws by acting in deliberate indifference, discriminatory and, selective enforcement of policies and setting new norms to operate under altered conditions according polices.

This culture, customs and traditions created a most realistic malevolent violent environment with fears of not complying to the dominant ruling mindsethe established by the administration and mid level managers and follow negative practices to avoid being ostracized, disciplined or even physically harmed if they do not conform to this practice by those who participate in it statewide and carried into the prisons by the social encouragements of our regional civilization.

Thus @ restitutiontouscitizensfirst, I agree with you this problem exist at the core of our society fueled by hate, racism, stigmas and misunderstandings of human needs and endorsed by those in power in the prison, locally, regionally and nationally. You post is most relevant.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst!
restitutiontouscitizensfirst!

What does the plight of 911 First Responders have to do with brutality in Arizona's prisons? EVERYTHING!

http://lonestarwatchdog.blogsp...

This is not a fantastic article - it is just one of many - check youtube too. This is trickle down immorality and bullying by the government. The choice of our government to marginalize 911 First Responders who are dead and dying from their exposure, calling them "mentally ill" and how convenient there are not studies to prove correlation between their exposure and their current illnesses that are killing them.

The treatment of 911 First Responders is just one very clear examples of our predatory government and their corporate colluders creating unfavorable environment for humanity period. How do you think that police and firefighters in Phoenix feel and how will they respond if we have a 911 type event here? They know that in reality no-one has their back. How about the demoralization of police and fire across the nation, knowing how the 911 First Responders have been cared for, and now not even allowed to go to their own memorial service?!?! Then these idiot talking heads attacking benefits of police and firefighters as excessive and unaffordable? No, it is not unaffordable, they simply do not want human beings anymore. The talking heads are sold out corporate shills demoralizing everybody and sowing fear and hatred. Once people can no longer afford life itself they will carry on marginalizing us as losers and the genocide will be completed.

Do you think that the increased police brutality and increased prison brutality has any relationship to 911 First Responders and their treatment? I do. If nobody has your back you had better stomp a problem out quick before it escalates - self preservation is all it is. And it must be done within the time period allotted because all these things are cause for possible loss of job and that is what most of us are reduced to in our moment to moment decisions and that is exactly where our oppressors wish us to be mentally and emotionally - pure slavery without the name because then you can be held legally responsible, not the system that created you or forced you and liability is once again evaded by the creators of the misery. Ditto CO's with not enough resources including even other CO's at their disposal. Humans are no longer wanted - or needed - I present as proof the economic recovery that produced no jobs.

I still wish police and fire nationwide would go AWOL on 9/11/11 in solidarity with the First Responders of NYC and to stand strong for their own benefits and compensation for their work and to stand strong for all of us and our humanity. (Even if it is only for part of a shift.) We the people of this nation need to stand together and support each other in recognition of who is the enemy. If the fire and police and CO's want to march I will join them. When and where.

Bogie_dennis54
Bogie_dennis54

The public does not care if these people live or die. Typical Arizona thinking.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst!
restitutiontouscitizensfirst!

Arizona has always been the strange psycho wave of the future in some aspects. Humans are losing around the world. This is a top down problem.

Wheatleyaz
Wheatleyaz

Arizona prisons are privately owned and contracted by the state. They are doomed to failures. This is what happens when people want to take power fro the Government and give it to private, for profit corporations.

JCarpe203
JCarpe203

The Arizona department of corrections is one of the most corrupt department in the nation. Why is nobody holding these people accountable. If you all only knew the half of it.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

My respect lto you for coming forth.. It would however be beneficial if you could elaborate without giving me your name, your location or position how you know what "the half of it." even in general terms, we need to show the public how the ADOC is "corrupt."

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Sherrif Joe is one of a few law enforcement individuals who understands a simple fact: "illegal immigrant" = an individual who is not in the United States legally. Being that the "illegal immigrant has broken our Federal Immigration Laws and entered the United States through illegal means, he / she is subject to a crime and as such, he / she is subject to deportation. Is that difficult to understand?

michael
michael

probably punishment or revenge by a low life guard who might have had a run in with the mentally ill man, guaranteed!!!!

Anon
Anon

Arizona Abu Ghraib? Will Terry Stewart Take Over AZ Prisons from Dora Schriro Despite His Iraqi Prisons Link? - Phoenix News - Feathered Bastardhttp://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.c...

azlefty
azlefty

They had to, they are saving all of the prison budget for the Privatization that is happening to enrich the electeds!

know2well
know2well

Animals get better treatment than the people in jail.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

True.. it seems there is more empathy for animals than humans as apathy is the word that describes the inner culture of AZ prisons and many more I am sure.. This includes many jails as well as they are not set up to treat the mentally ill persons incarcerated or awaiting trial.. thanks for your honesty..

Notice to all,,,, I didn't say sympathy.. I said empathy for if you walked a mile in those shoes, you can understand what this is all about.. Treatment not excuses but proper treatment to cope and function to their best ability as humans in our world trying to co-exist with others not so understanding as many here in this group that has posted the last five days or so.

Anon
Anon

Mr. Rubin, Outstanding and courageous investigative reporting. It time the most critical issue in the state has finally been pulled out from under the rug -- the mass incarceration of Arizona's people and visitors -- and what they are facing once a judge sentenced them to jail or prison. Who charged Shannon and sent a mentally ill man climbing a telephone pole to prison and his death by murder? The public needs more information on this trail...

Anon
Anon

Connecting the dots needs to know: who wrote the police report, who were the charging and trial prosecutors, who was the judge, who was Shannon's defense attorney, who wrote the pre-sentencing report?

Anon
Anon

Those responsible for not helping a sick man have blood on their hands as well. Truly disturbing. A years long pattern to all this that the public needs to be made aware of.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

@Anon - I wrote an essay on this connection - read if you want to connect the dots yourself.... it's pure speculation shared by many this is the link to Arizona's mission of mass incarceration but with no proof of such as all is done paperless to avoid FOIA discovery attempts by org seeking to find the truth

http://www.associatedcontent.c...

Raymondo3
Raymondo3

Please, No illegal immigation talk here. Story was about the seriously mentally ill in prison

Petrafan2003
Petrafan2003

Yes , Those illegals will have jobs at a lower wage and no benifits . and legals wont have them . Jobs will be full but of illegals . hence no unemployment on the books . But millions of American citizens without jobs.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Would someone please explain to me how we will decrease unemployment by granting amnesty to some or most of the 12,000,000 people who entered the United States by illegal means?

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

The courageous ones are reading this story.. they know the truth.. they will share what is taboo to talk about as long as their names are not revealed. I encourage more dialogue and use fake names to tell your story.. Whether past or present DOC officers don't matter, we want to hear from you to tell the truth so it can be put out there once and for all the system needs to be fixed. Thankyou all for your honesty.. and the heart to tell what you have seen, heard and lived inside these prisons. The Gov and lawmakers read this and need to know your story. Pass it on

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

Your presence gave me the courage. And I have to say that this article has altered my opinion of this publication and even this particular writer in a more favorable direction.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

It is my ultimate hope and prayer by God Almighty that those who still have a heart, a good faith effort in their job, a hope of change in their mind and the stamina to travel the journey, will express their feelings and show that these mentally ill persons need to be house in a treatment environment, treated with dignity and medicated to allow coping skills to endure their time sentenced. I Pray Correctional Officers find the strength to say what they need to say and do it with the honor they swore to when they became officers. I remember my oath and I never forgot who I serve.. the state and the agency not the individuals that run the place.. Loyalty is a good thing but not if it compromises security, safety, staff wellness or those you are accepting custodial responsibility for while on duty.

Tina
Tina

A copy of this in-depth report by Paul Rubin should be provided to every state legislator AND Governor Jan Brewer. It should be accompanied by readers' comments, so many of which are from people who are insiders of the Correction Officers system. Big policy changes are needed to provide mental health facilities for mentally ill prisoners. The conditions described in this account sound like something out of the Dark Ages.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

"Power is given only to those who dare to lower themselves and pick it up. Only one thing matters, one thing; to be able to dare!"Fyodor Dostoevsky

We thank you Carl and officers who have come forward with the horrific truth that is Arizona and reflects it's society.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Tina, Well said. Besides correctional officer, there are also many informed and concerned citizens who have been following the corruption in Arizona that support those who have the courage to speak out. You are all doing a great public service that will NOT be forgotten. The murder of Shannon Palmer does not surprise anyone having followed the death/murder of Marcia Powell left in an outdoor cage on a cement slab in extreme heat for over 4 hours. She had no family to be there for her and the "system" knew it. She was a prospect for this broken, sick system. But she to will never be forgotten. She is the symbol of how women are treated in Arizona.

Steve 1
Steve 1

They also didn't mention how the Dept of Confusion. Had three inmates in those same cells. one in the bed and two on the floor. Or how the Complex Warden Tara Diaz is sleeping with her underling's but is married to Major Diaz from aonther complex. The 40-80 hr's off is just to pass The Headline Test. with any and all news outlets.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

The part of having up to 4 inmates inside these cells is true. This is why these detention units were so prone to violence and suicides. Not designed for such high occupancy, the staff hands are tied in order to keep them fed, showered, rec, escorts to and from medical or mental health etc and no help on shift to do it. Short cuts happen and things go bump in the middle of the night with nobody seeing or hearing anything.. until they find the body.. Shameful practices but condoned by the top although on paper, they deny knowledge of such practices. Some units designed for 40 hold 110 and some designed for 80 hold more than 120 at times. Not how we follow policy but the truth hurts. I can see more CO's standing up for what they know is not right for them to endure and get punished for as the blame runs downhill quickly and stops at them eventually and usually within 5 days.

 
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