Ask a Mexican on Waiting for Work and Authentic Mexican Music

I'm a young white dude who drives to work everyday, and on my daily commute, I get off the freeway and drive through the streets. Every single day between the hours of 5 a.m. and noon, there are at least 100 Mexican men out there waiting to be picked up for work of any kind. My question: Is it really worth it to stand out there all day and pray to God that they will get picked up? And even if they do, why did they get picked up? Did he look stronger and more capable than the other Mexicans? Did the pick-up-ee look at him and say, "Hmm, that one looks like he can lay some tile, and pour concrete"? I don't know how many get picked up every day, but I kind of think that unless you know the person who is looking to pick up some cheap labor, you are just a lucky pick. So is it worth it? Shouldn't a Mexican work harder to gain citizenship and actually pick up a real job? It makes me feel bad, too, that I absolutely hate my job, and really, I take it for granted that I even have one. Thanks for listening.
Office Drone Dave

Who says those jornaleros haven't already applied for citizenship or have been on the waiting list for years? Who says being a day laborer isn't a real job? I agree the employment isn't an ideal one — "Even if day laborers have many more good months than bad months, it is unlikely that their annual earnings will exceed $15,000, keeping them at or below the federal poverty threshold," found a report co-authored by my old UCLA boss, Dr. Abel Valenzuela Jr., the nation's premier expert on day laborers, in his 2006 paper, "On the Corner: Day Labor in the United States" — but it's better than sitting on your ass and seeing the umpteenth YouTube clip of cats.

My father is Mexican-American and my mother is white. Every time we go to visit older relatives on my dad's side, they always play the same music — Eydie Gormé and Vikki Carr. Why are they listening to this stuff by white people and not genuine, authentic Mexican music? Do they think they're above listening to real Mexican music? I've asked them but they just keep on playing the same damn records.
No Mas Vikki o Eydie

Who says Gormé and Carr are white people? Who says your older relatives aren't listening to Mexican music? Carr's real name is Florencia Vicenta de Casillas Martinez Cardona, and she's straight-up wab, son! She Anglicized her name back in the days when gabachos wouldn't accept brownies completely but never forgot her roots and has sung in Spanish since the 1970s, recording classic ranchera albums with Vicente Fernández and Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlán. Gormé is of Sephardic Jewish heritage, which definitely isn't gabacho, and recorded one of the most-beloved albums of Mexican abuelitas everywhere: Amor, a collection of Latin American boleros with the Mexican group Trio Los Panchos that's all about Los Panchos' twinkling triumvirate of guitars and Gormé's sighing voice — just play "Sabor a Mi" to any chica, and watch her chonis melt away, the raison d'etre for hombres from sunrise to sunset.

 
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CT
CT

Just like California illegal is illegal, not a guest. The following statistics are from the Los Angeles Times Newspaper. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.

kaylal
kaylal

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kaylal
kaylal

Mexicans need to learn how to figure out their f*** up country and leave ours alone... end of story stop trying to turn the united states into little Mexico.. If your going to bring that crap here then stay the f*** there. We take pride in our country and we actually like to see normal streets with out you on the side of it waving down every car you see. if you want to live here and respect our country then do it the right way and become a citizen.. yes it takes time.. if it didn't then every one would just come to united states.. If its so great then fix your F**** up countries not our fault we have our shit some what put together! all you all are doing is turning this country back in a run down country! If you want out of your messed up country so made and want a better life then act like it and act like a normal human being... o.. and LEARN OUR LANGUAGE!!!!!!

scarface
scarface

Shut up already this is not your country who tha fuck you think you are? Let me guees a tax payer citizen ! Who gives a fuck! . You gonna have to live with it or learn how to deal with it. Talking about human beings! You should act like one be a real american dont be a super patriot share the country the one that luckly you ware born. . And first of all understand that not everyone is lucky enough to be from USA. .

scarface
scarface

Ok I fuck up but did kill me calling me a gypsee I rather be a nigro anyways like I say nothing has change but you say it did change what has change?

Michael
Michael

Yes, some things have changed.

We now spell Iraq as such-- with the letter "q." Of course, in Eastern European countries (i.e. Germany, Poland, Hungary, Romania), they do spell it with a "k."

So if you are a foreigner: Do me a favor AND LEARN TO SPEAK AMERICAN ENGLISH. Men didn't die in wars so that you can come here and butcher our language and pepper it with E.E. nouns. Go back to your stuffed cabbage and shut the fuck up.

In addition, we use something called a semicolon when we want to merge two sentences into one. To my knowledge, it has never been appropriate to use two periods in place of a semicolon. Again, your use of our precious English is insulting. Ask any right-winger!

Finally, the word "anything" has a "g" in it.

Tell the truth Scarface: Are you even here legally? I'm guessing you are a Romanian Gypsee boy.

Mcclowski
Mcclowski

Plenty of "Natives" as you so elegantly posted have died or have been conquered for hundreds of years. Read your history Its the way It works, nor you or me will ever change that Would you rather be speaking Japanese or German or?

scarface
scarface

Im sorry but when you plenty died to have what we have now! Are you talking about all the natives that europeans muderer back in the days ?

scarface
scarface

I did 2 years in irak..has anythin change?

Mcclowski
Mcclowski

Sucks to be you ! Plenty died to enjoy what we have here what did you do beside display your arrogance

kaylal
kaylal

Mexicans need to learn how to figure out their f*** up country and leave ours alone... end of story stop trying to turn the united states into little mexico.. If your going to bring that crap here then stay the f*** there. We take pride in our country and we actually like to see normal streets with out you on the side of it waving down every car you see. if you want to live here and respect our country then do it the right way and become a citizen.. yes it takes time.. if it didn't then every one would just come to united states.. If its so great then fix your F**** up countries not our fault we have our shit some what put together! all you all are doing is turning this country back in a run down country! If you want out of your messed up country so made and want a better life then act like it and act like a normal human being... o.. and LEARN OUR LANGUAGE!!!!!!

Ron
Ron

these people are illeglas that broke the laws of the unitted states,and procede there illegal way of life,,,criminals...thieves,,,,etc....obama,s babies, the great illegal dicatator....these illegals steal jobs for true us citizens that are jobless...

Michael
Michael

That's funny. I wonder what your education level is Ron? No Mexican illegal has ever taken a job from ME, that's for damned sure. If illegal aliens are stealing your job opportunities, you might want to think about community college. Also, sharpening up your spelling and punctuation skills wouldn't hurt you either.

Hilarious!

Gaby Mendoza
Gaby Mendoza

Not all mexicans are the same and people shouldn't be judging the whole race... "Don't judge a book by its cover" get to know some mexicans before you start talking bad about them.. And they don't steal jobs, they have jobs that U.S. citizens don't want.. They put up with bullsh*t because at least its a job.. those U.S. citizens who are jobless should try harder to get one.. We all may learn something from them.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

PLease do your homework and research the Federal laws as they pertaing to "illegal entry" into the US:Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

Jl
Jl

Please Review your Comments before posting them. Illegal does not apply to ANY one who is in another Country without Documents. The Proper way to refer to an individual without the proper Documents is Undocumented. Furthermore, there are a lot of UNDOCUMENTED folks in this and any country from Different Nationalities not only from MEXICO. No i am not Against or With ..... But if you want to succeed blaming some one else for your own Failure, again please DO THE RIGHT THING; and RESEARCH your comments before posting ANYTHING.

Have a Woderfull Day

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Are you saying that it is not illegal to enter the United States without the benefit of being interviewd and questioned by US Customs and Immigration? Can anyone from anywhere in the world enter the United State this way and that's acceptable to you? Do you have any idea of how many people worldwide want to come here?

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Illegal aliens should be allowed to apply for work permits but only while they are in Mexico.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Sherrif Joe is one of a few law enforcement individuals who understands a simple fact: "illegal immigrant" = an individual who is not in the United States legally. Being that the "illegal immigrant" has broken our (and Barrack Hussien Obwama's) Federal Immigration Laws and entered the United States through illegal means, he / she is subject to a crime and as such, he / she is subject to deportation. Is that difficult to understand?

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Would someone please explain to me how we will decrease unemployment by granting amnesty to some or most of the 12,000,000 people who entered the United States by illegal means?

hawk man
hawk man

I get irritated when I hear people saying "they are taking the jobs of white people" all the while acting of course like they immigrated to this country any more legally than the Mexicans. Nobody invited the whites,blacks,orientals or anybody else you can think of. This country is a country of proud "Imperialists" look up imperialism and all the awful crap enveloped within and then kid yourself that it didn't happen here to the real Native Americans. Of course as a real Native of this country, I expect to hear all the ugly junk from mostly the "European Americans" who deep inside would rather erase my people completely than to admit the truth.

Ron
Ron

keep the illegal out of this country , period...get dictator obama out of office, and wilcox of arrizona, supporters of lawbreaking

Michael
Michael

Wow. It's no wonder you are losing job opportunities to illegal aliens! Your English is every bit as poor as theirs is Ron!

Wow!

Jl
Jl

Wow, it's amazing how Low Arizonan people have gotten, and that Few years Back the economy was a success and now that everything went down the drain. Ignorant folks like yourself have yet blame everyone misfortune in someone else.... Do me a favor and go sell you fOOD sTAMPS....

Have a Woderfull Day

Angelescarla41
Angelescarla41

well i guess the mexican have to take care of the jobs the white people don"t want to do get pay for $4to 5 dollars and hour...Is funny how white people complain about mexican taking their jobs and this and that but when it comes to cheap labor they go running and pick a mexican in a minute with out thinking there illegals why? because is better for them to pay cheap labor the to a real compay..

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

What about the people from all over the world that are waiting patiently for their turn at the lagal immigration process? Is it fair to them that others can walk through the desert and enter the US without due process at a legal port of entry? Were is the good old American sense of fair play and justice? Are the laws applied selectively? Should we open the borders and allow everyone to enter the US without going through the legal Process?

scarface
scarface

Because they dont have the balls to walk in the desert. . Or may be they dont have the money to do it the illegal way. .

Stuart Pitt
Stuart Pitt

Well Gustavo would suggest that since the Southwest was stolen (In their minds but lost in a war actually) it actually belongs to them (Reconquista) so they deserve to come and go as they please. Likewise our laws are null and void for them since in their heads it's "THEIR" country anyway. I predict that this "generous" immigration policy would last until exactly "one minute after they took over". Then it would revert to what they have in their country....."if you ain't Mezzican stay the fukk out or we will throw you in prison". Also there is the "LaRaza" approach if "Invasion by immigration", legal or otherwise. This is the idea that where if they can become a large enough percentage of the population they will by default eventually rule it. This is also currently being used in Europe by Muslim immigrants and it is successful to the point where there are whole neighborhoods where the local police will not go. AND in these neighborhoods Shariah law does apply. When it comes right down to it these mezzicans had better be careful on account of if their efforts are successful here then the Muslims will target them next as inhabitors of "The Great Satan",,,the US. I can see it now with all them sweet chicas at the park n swap wearing burkas and face veils? Unless of course the mexes plan on taking over and reducing the Southwest to the level of a third world nation...like Mexico so the Muslims won't want it? And since all us Gabachos will be driven North by the advancing brown horde we WILL take all our guns with us thereby concentrating firepower even more.

Patrick
Patrick

Well Stuart!! Just go down to Cabo, Puerto Vallarta, or Lake Chapala in Jalisco. You will see that there also, has been populated and taken over by the "Gabacho". Even if the Gringo goes up further north towards closer to Canada, it will only be a while before they'll start asking for cheap labor, what better than to exploit them ha!!, but you wouldnt want the cheap labor offspring to go to the same school your kids go too right. Even if they were born in the good o'l US of A. Then you would want to get rid of them like Arizona. Oh!! and you would actually be supplying the mexicans with your money and guns in order for them to cross it over the border and to support your daily consumption of drugs.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Would someone please explain to me how we will decrease unemployment by granting amnesty to some or most of the 12,000,000 people who entered the United States by illegal means?

Michael
Michael

Dumoudan-- I'll explain it no problem. There are shitloads of jobs in Arizona picking fruit. I could give every single unemployed Gringo a job in Arizona picking watermelons. Why would I hire an illegal alien when I could hire an American? Of course I would hire an American first.

But Americans don't apply for jobs pitching watermelons, do they? Same goes for slaughterhouses. If you know ANYBODY who is unemployed right now, please, please, have them go to ANY farm in Arizona and ask for a picking job. I promise, they will get hired.

No American businessman would prefer to hire illegals. That makes no sense. The reality is that unemployed Americans don't want to work in the fields, or the slaughterhouses, or day labor.

I've never seen a Mexican with a "will work for food sign." I've never seen a Mexican begging for a handout. I see them standing in front of Home Depot, every day, looking for work.

Where are the Americans? They are home, collecting unemployment.

As I said, if you are concerned with unemployment, please visit your local farm today! We can help you out buddy!

Patrick
Patrick

There already working here!!

Michael
Michael

It's a contraction. It's spelled "they're"- as in "they are."

This is the reason Americans can't find work. They can't speak or write English properly!

T
T

Discrimination Suit Against Arizona Sheriff DismissedUpdated: Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011, 12:27 PM MSTPublished : Tuesday, 30 Aug 2011, 7:32 AM MST

PHOENIX - A federal judge has tossed out a lawsuit accusing the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office of discrimination, negligence and abuse during a worksite enforcement raid.

U.S. District Court Judge Stephen McNamee issued a ruling that dismissed the suit on the grounds the Sheriff's Office and county administrators did not know of, participate in or authorize any unconstitutional conduct during the February 2009 raid on a Phoenix landscaping firm.

Celia Alvarez was among the 40 people arrested on suspicion of identity theft and fraud claimed in her lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office that she was subjected to unreasonable search and seizure and was injured by a deputy during the raid.

The judge ruled the defendant could not prove her case.

Farolito
Farolito

Officer Drone you say: "Shouldn't a Mexican work harder to gain citizenship and actually pick up a real job?" I found out something very interesting while I was in South Korea. They actually were talking to three people from Arizona on the (illegal) immigration issue in AZ. The first White looking person was from an English-speaking country ~ not "our U.S." English but a variation of English. He had applied for citizenship and it only took him 1-year to be cleared. The second person was an Asian woman ~ we know how smart the Asians are ... smarter than Americans, right? She had applied for citizenship and it took her 3-years. The last person was darker skinned and spoke with a heavy Spanish accent. The woman applied for citizenship ~ legally, I must note ~ and it took her 16-years. When I came home, I spoke to a friend and she said that an immigration attorney had told her that this country ~ the great U.S.of A who doesn't discriminate ~ has different standards when it comes to approval citizenship to immigrants. He told her, "Those who come from English-speaking countries are most often granted their citizenship in a short time period. It also helps if you are White." ~ Before you say that Mexicans should work harder to to get citizenship, wonder why "all" immigrants applying for citizenship are treated equally. ~ Also, I am surprised that you don't hear about those Americans who hire these Mexicans and then they stiff them out of their pay for all the work they do. One plumber told me how "a friend of mine" picked 3 Mexicans, worked them all day on his home, was taking them back home, stopped at a Circle K and said, "It's hot ... here's some money and get something to drink." When the Mexicans went in the store, this righteous/moral American drove off without paying them. I think all Americans who have "ever" hired a Mexican (because they do have more pride in their work), should be imprisoned. They knew it was illegal to hire the Mexican so it was no skin off their teeth to swindle the person out of their earned money. Oh yeah, it is inbred in Americans do this because this Country has been doing that for so long ... if the mines needed skilled workers, they brought in the Mexicans from Mexico and then deported them. As one old timer, executive from the mines admitted before his presentation, "As I look at all the Mexican Americans (legal ones, mind you), I realize that for every dollar we (the company) made. We only gave your fathers 3 cents." Now if a U.S. company can screw American born, Spanish-speaking citizens, doesn't it make you wonder what they paid the Mexicans before they were deported. ... THINK ABOUT IT ... learn the real history behind the border states.

 
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