Cornelius: The JFA era was the Mad Gardens era. When Mad Gardens went under, JFA started to not play as much.

Brannon: [Victor] was just a great marketing guy. In addition to everything else, he really helped put our name out there and get us out there, in a way that a bunch of dumb skateboarders who want to play punk music never would have done. So when Placebo folded, we did kind of disappear from the radar, because we went back to playing empty pool parties and slam-dance dives, and random keggers, and whatever sounded cool to us. We just went back to being ourselves.

Cornelius: [In the mid-'80s], it started to get really segregated. I wasn't really playing in the band so much.

JFA, dropping on the cover of the Blatant Localism EP, from 1981).
JFA, dropping on the cover of the Blatant Localism EP, from 1981).

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2610 W. Baseline Road
Mesa, AZ 85202

Category: Bars and Clubs

Region: Mesa


JFA, Father Figures, and Asses of Evil are scheduled to perform Saturday, October 15, at Hollywood Alley in Tempe.

Brannon: In '86-'87, we started going, "If everybody else is thinking [that] to be punk, you have to play fast, then we're gonna do something different. We're gonna play funk, I'm going to wear paisley shirts and stuff, and just get kind of crazy. And not give them what they want, but really give them what they need." Because it's not punk to be like everybody else.

As skateboarders — it's like when you drop into a pool — there are two ways to go about it. You can go, okay, I'm going to carve over the line, hit the sidewall front side, try and get in line with the steps. You can plan it out in your head how you're going to do everything. Or you can just go in there, go as fast as you can, and pump and see where you end up and make it happen.

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Great story! I was living in Michigan in my skater days. This makes me feel a bit old I might say. I got a JFA tape with my Thrasher Magazine subscription way back in the late 80's

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

Great story. I'm gonna miss the show and I'm a little bummed. Big class reunion for all the knuckleheads I used to hang out with back then. Have fun boys!


Well done! That's a huge story to tell in three pages so, obviously, everything the sources couldn't make it in. I think if a reader was paying attention, they can easilly see the context of Mr. Locker's comments; that they were intended to relay the lack of organized, legal skate spots back in the '80s. Kudos to the New Times and the writer for recognizing this as an important part of Arizona's musical and cultural history.


Great interview and article. Those were some great times back then at Mad Gardens.

But what's up with rob locker's egocentric, irrelevant, and out of place statement about how he has skated more shit than anyone cares to hear about? So what, from what I know of the individuals in the room, most of them could claim the very same thing. It just came off as a sad "hey, look at me" moment.

Rob Locker
Rob Locker

I agree with egocentric, irrelevant and out of place in the article. I answered a lot of questions and that answer is from a question that said what was your favorite skate spots in the eighties. Didn't feel like typing a book. Let me just add that I remember and APPRECIATED every spot and am still shredding today. -Rob Locker


My apologies Rob, I completely forgot to take into account the editing that the PNTs does to writers articles and the inteviewer as well. I should have remembered when I was interviewed by PNTs and their selection of quotes out of context made me look like somewhat of a dork. Jason, please be more careful in the future as your intention failed imho. I will say that Robs honor and integrity remain high with his humble response.

Jason P. Woodbury
Jason P. Woodbury

Furthermore, I plan on using more quotes for a blog post on Friday. Rest assured, I wasn't trying to paint anyone as egocentric, just include as many diverse voices as I had space for.

Jason P. Woodbury
Jason P. Woodbury

Hey Rob, I appreciated that everyone took time to contribute. I used that quote to try and express exactly what you said, that you guys "made" and appreciated your spots. Sorry if it seems out of context or choppy. I easily could have used everything everybody said, but I didn't have space for it all!

Rob Locker
Rob Locker

Here is the rest of the answer they didn't bother to publish: All I will say is that I appreciated and enjoyed every last one of them and I didn't then and today I still do not take that shit for granted. What drives me nuts today is we now we have a whole generation of skateboarders that take all the awesome stuff they have to skate for granted, like it's their god-given right to be there and act like an asshole. They have no idea what it's like to have NOWHERE to skate. That is what is so great about being a skateboarder from my era. We wanted to skate so bad we made it happen, at all costs. Everything we skated back then had a very limited life-span. That's where the appreciation comes from. These municipalities can take these million dollar skateparks away in a heart beat, kids today don't understand that.

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