Feedback from the Issue of Thursday, October 13th, 2011

HIZZ(DIS)ONER

Phil = nothing short of pathetic: Your story on Phoenix Mayor Gordon's legacy was right on ("Phil Unveiled," Monica Alonzo, September 29). The guy had so much promise in the beginning, only to squander it by being a DiNO [Democrat in Name Only].

You may not believe it, with the likes of scumbags like Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Arizona Senate President Russell Pearce running around, but there's a sizable chunk of progressives here (just not a voting majority), and Gordon sold us out by repeatedly playing politics (i.e., cozying up to Arpaio, before finally standing up to the evil motherfucker when it looked like the sheriff might go after him).

Also, the thing with his gold-digging girlfriend Elissa Mullany is beyond the pale. And to try to get her on the airport board — even after she had dumped him when he was of little use to her anymore (was he trying to get her back?) — was nothing short of pathetic.
Jim Arnold, Phoenix

Gordon wasn't all bad: [The story's] a selectively accurate summary of Phil Gordon's soon-to-end stint as mayor of Phoenix. But despite Gordon's corruption (which few dispute, unless he's paying them or sleeping with them), his being elected mayor was a godsend for this city — and the article doesn't mention it.

While rightly crediting him for standing up to Sheriff Joe Arpaio and for opening Arizona State University's downtown campus, reporter Monica Alonzo overlooks his most significant achievement — implementation of light-rail.

Journalists at New Times opposed light rail before and after it opened, but it has worked well and is the city's only chance of survival.

It needs to be expanded much farther, no matter the cost, because, as this car-culture collapses, various parts of this vast city — and outposts like Tempe and Scottsdale — will have to become self-contained, compact communities. To think otherwise is the logic of the ostrich.

History may remember Phil Gordon as Phoenix's savior.
Barry Graham, Phoenix

Editor's note: Actually, we've never opposed light rail. On the contrary, staff writer Ray Stern compared what was then getting built in the Valley to successful systems in other cities and told complainers: "Stop Your Railing!" (December 28, 2006). We've criticized the system in blogs because too many freeloaders are able to use it, since station design allows riders to get to trains without first buying a ticket and using it to go through a turnstile. And because it's rare for an officer to ask to see a ticket. These problems have contributed to light rail's being very expensive to operate in a down economy.

Gordon the budget buster: Phil Gordon is just another self-promoter. I'd be interested to know how much money he siphoned from campaign contributions and developer kickbacks — his hide-the-salami tactics with the opportunist girlfriend [aside].

Sorry-ass [Gordon] will be remembered for influence peddling (like the Veolia bus contract) and the biggest sham of all, light rail — which [busted] the Phoenix city budget.
Billy Gates, Phoenix

Um, so to speak: It's never good when a political "leader" thinks with his member. Mayor Phil Gordon did a lot of good things for Phoenix, as you write, but now his political career is forever stained.
Mary Jo Kelly, Phoenix

The two sides of the mayor: On one hand, the guy had the fortitude to stand up to the MCSO sheriff, and on the other, he has been one of the most manipulative and dishonest mayors a city could have.

Although I admired his stand against the MCSO, I would never vote for him again. Thank goodness for term limits.
Tommy Collins, Phoenix

Not really: Money, power, sex . . . Has it ever been about anything else?
Stephen Sedona, city unavailable

We were really wondering what Shakira would think: I think Shakira will remember Phil as both freakishly weird and as someone she would never let baby-sit or attend a quinceañeras ("Shakira Meets with Gordon," Feathered Bastard blog, April 29, 2010).
Charlie Oscar, city unavailable

So, Camelback's a bust??: The mayor will be remembered for telling Donald Trump no ("Camelback Corridor," Valley Fever blog, December 15).

Can you believe that? What a dummy! Camelback would be booming, [but] instead it's a bust
Eric Raskin, city unavailable

 
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DNichols
DNichols

Fact: January 2008 = The start of the E-verify Law, and the I.C.E. Deportation/Incarceration Programs.

Fact: January 2008 = The start of "The Worst Recession in U.S. History".

Fact: This is no co incidence!

Fact for every good hard working Immigrant Deported since January 2008 America has lost over four times as many jobs.

Fact: The Hard Labor Immigrants gladly did for America supported All other jobs!

Fact: tens of thousands of now vacated Immigrants dwellings caused the "Forclosure Crisis, left entire States Like Arizona, ect. overbuilt, completely halting Construction/Growth, causing millions of Americans to lose their const. related jobs.Fact these now largely vacated States now find themselve's with massive excesses of Total Government, and matching Budget Shortfals.

Fact; This is our I.C.E.'d Economy, and we deserve it.

We have crashed our own Economy, don't blame America's Hard working Immigrants, they helped build our what was Prosperity, until we began Deporting them from their legal Citizen Children, and Families as our gratitude.

Wake up America, we are far better than this.

"America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."Alex DeTocqueville

Any one remember Good, and Brotherhood?

C.T.R.

Tuchicoatravieso
Tuchicoatravieso

Gringos, stop hating Mexicans. 99.99999999% of the Mexicans don't give a sh1et about your comments. Not all of the undocumented persons in the States are Mexicans. It is in your nature to be racist and ignorant? I believe so.

mrgrnjn
mrgrnjn

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a HERO! America needs many more like him! I would LOVE to see Joe as Governor so he could get rid of ALL the ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL TRASH! MAKE EM WEAR PINK FOR AWHILE AND THEN KICK THEIR NASTY BUTTS BACK ACROSS THE BORDER! ----YOU GO JOE! AMERICA LOVES YOU!----

mrgrnjn
mrgrnjn

This roach rag talks in another article about "What part of illegal mexicans don't understand and then goes ahead and blames it all on whites hiring illegal aliens by saying that the whites don't know the meaning of illegal when they are paying the mexicans. HOW STUPID IS THAT? THIS is the typical mexican mentality, They have no respect for the law or for for what is right or wrong. They will twist the situation around and tell any lie they have to in order to further their agenda. What the author gustavo was really saying is that mexicans will break the law if they feel like it. If everyone else is doing it why not? They have NO allegiance to America. This magazine IS a ROACH RAG and it puts a smile on my face to see America waking up and telling all you illegal alien roaches to leave. You are ALL vermin and should be treated as such and if our government does not do it then I pray our citizens will. YOU can ALL kiss my azz. DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL SCUM AND DON'T LISTEN TO THEIR LIES OR THEIR POOR SOB STORIES! SEND EM ALL HOME!

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Should immigrants who chose to go through the normal immigration process and those who cross the boreder illegally be treated the same? How is that fair and just to one and all?

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Is the US responsible for solving other countries social/ economic problems? Why are liberals racist by only speaking up for Illegal immigrant Mexicans and no one else. We have always been a country for fairness and equality. So why should people who enter the US illegaly have exactly the same opportunities as those immigrants who chose to wait their turn and enter the US by the legal immigration process? Is that fair?

mrgrnjn
mrgrnjn

They also disabled the comments section because 99.9% of the comments were AGAINST illegal alien criminal scum.

DNichols
DNichols

Dumadan?

America is "The Greatest Country on Earth"

This is why Immigrants came here for the last thirty years, why should we treat them differently?

Why don't you ask their legal Citizen Children?

Why don't you tell these Children why their Mother now lies dead in the Harsh Desert at the U.S. Mexico Desert where she and forty thousand other Hispanic Immigrants now lie dead, after being Dumped by I.C.E. into the middle of "Drug War" with nothing, not even water by the Former "Greatest Country on Earth?

Why don't you think?

No Real American can Support the way good hard working People have been persecuted, and yes Dumped to their deaths for wanting to be part of America!

No "Real American!

If you are so bent on illegal activity, the E-verify/SB1070 Sponsor was justcaught running a ringer candidate in his Recall Election, this was a Felonyfor Senator Russell Pearce, his Brother, two of his Nieces, a Tea PartyLeader, plus approx: two thousand stellar Citizens that knowingly signed aFraudulent Petition for the Ringer Candidate, for the Pearce Family?

You don't care about this illegal activity do you dumbandan?

Wake up America, we are far Better than this!

Ripping Mothers from their Children? Why?

America is why Dunmberdan.

Besides how Deportations have Crashed our Economy!

To: Good, and Brotherhood.

Scincerely: David Nichols

DNichols
DNichols

Really they disabled 99.9% of the Racist Hate Comments?

Please seek help.

Racism, and Hate are mental illnesses, their could be hope.

DNichols
DNichols

Dumbodan,

The fact is thata since the January 2008 start of the I.C.E. Deportations, for every Good Hard Working Immigrant the U.S. has Deported the U.S. has lost four times as many jobs!Fact is the Hard Labor Good Immigrants gladly did for America not only supported the Immigrants, their children, however it was the Foundation of our once Strong Economy, and this Hard labor supported All other American Jobs!

The Great President Ronald Reagan facing a similar National Deficit in 1986 did two things, he lowered taxes, and he granted Amnesty to nearly three million Good Hard Working Immigrants.Over the next thirty years aprox: 12 million more hard working Immigrants came to the U.S. Thihs thirty year period was the "Most Prosperous thirty years in Toal U.S. HIstory!

We don't need to Deport more Hard Working Parents away form their Legal Children, We need to Control our Borders (Plural) and treat people that have been here up to thirty years as "Human", and in accordance to True American Principles, and Values.

Many times Laws need to be reviewed, and applied to meet the situation responsibly.

For those saying "No Amnesty", I hope your maker grants you some?

To: Liberty.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

I believe I already answered the three questions at the start of your post Dumbodan. Just a reminder, the answers are YES,YES, and YES. The answer to the fourth question is NO, the law doesn't specify brown people, BUT THE MCSO DOES.

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

Is this law Racist? Does it specify brown people?Are the people who agree with this law racist?Are those who want this law enforced racist?The law says nothing of little "brown" people but it explains what is illegal entry. It's not very hard to understand. Why is this law "broken"? Why can it be selectively ignored?Illegal alien includes all people who entered illegally, could be Croation, Russian, Chinese, Irish, Canadians and yes even Mexicans. No one single race or people is referenced in the law. Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.These people cost Pheonix and surrounding cities hundreds of millions to support the education, health and welfare of these illegal immigrants. A landscape worker paid by cash (no taxes) and his wife (a stay at home mom), have been here for 16 years and had 7 children born in the US. Who do you think paid for her medical bills???

 
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