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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:39:00 AM
You'll have to excuse the Arizona wannabee communist commissar mikefrombisbee. He looks up these foreign words in his old copy of the little black book of communism and it makes him feel like he's superior.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:36:00 AM
But it just keeps grinding at you doesn't it?
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:36:00 AM
But it dig bug the shit out of you anyway, didn't it?
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:34:00 AM
He can't provide it moron, because those subversive teachers identities are protected by the school system that fears a lawsuit from morons like you. You could if you cared to, go and see them teaching their subversive Mecha crap right on U-tube posted there by people that care about what's going on in your state, unlike you.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:32:00 AM
And while he's reading that you could send him your copy of the little communist black book of revolutionary tactics, or he could borrow it from one of your anti-American buddies.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:21:00 AM
Your'e full of shit. The MAS classes were effectively exposed as having an anti-American, in fact, racist poltical agenda towards the anglo population. No amount of your high-minded posing can change that fact.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:19:00 AM
What idiocy. You would have been the ideal communist commissar. I'm not even going to argue the obvious facts that you have omitted and willfully ignore about the MAS classes. You don't even believe what your writing, but that isn't why you write it, is it shithead?
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:14:00 AM
More bombastic lies from a consumate liar and racist. It's already been determined and in fact, EXPOSED AS TO WHAT WAS BEING TAUGHT.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:13:00 AM
You idiot ass. You are attacking American citizens that dedicated their lives to education and fairness, two things that ARE NOT WHAT THE MAS CLASSES WERE ABOUT. God, get a clue.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:11:00 AM
"Toe headed",etc. You ass. European-Americans created the laws and conditions, and in fact, this whole United States of America making it possible for that Hidpanic to be a doctor or lawyer here. You need to gain some serious respect for the people that built this nation you are living so well in.
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Bobby 02/03/2012 9:07:00 AM
You devious lying sack of ....... You know damn well that the agenda of those classes was political and anti-European American, like yourself. They were caught teaching subversive and racist bullshit in true classical conditioning fashion, with such phrases as "white" superiority, and a white agenda to keep "hispanics" down, and you know it,you bald faced liar.
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Jesus Cristo de Juarez 01/25/2012 8:33:00 PM
All of us brown skin Mexicans presently occupying "El Norte", need to return to Mexico and take over the country from the pale skin descendants of the colonial masters. Kick out all the white skin occupiers of Mexico, our tue homeleand, with the help of Gustavo Arellano who will renounce his stay in "El Norte". He will be our new presidente in Mexico. Will you join us and Gustavo Arellano?
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Deborah 01/25/2012 6:22:00 AM
I just switched over from the Huff Post to this because I couldn't believe how hateful and racist most of the comments on this subject were on that site. The comments here are just as bad, but then, what can we expect from a state that did everything it could not to have a MLK holiday? It's unbelievable that people can't recognize that American history, and especially Arizona history, is not all about the white guys. Everyone deserves to know about how our diversity contributed to the development of the nation. The ignorance is truly horrifying.
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Wakeupnow 01/24/2012 8:43:00 PM
Yes. American History and English language.
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Wakeupnow 01/24/2012 8:42:00 PM
Yes. American History and English language.
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GreenHornet 01/24/2012 8:33:00 PM
Who cares? Do you live in Mexico?
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Jesus Cristo de Nogales 01/24/2012 5:42:00 PM
Are Mexican schools teaching Anglo Saxon American history?
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Jesus Cristo de Nogales 01/24/2012 5:28:00 PM
"Ask Gustavo Arellano and a Mexican when he / she plans to end their occupation of El Norte?"
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01/24/2012 4:48:00 PM
MAS in a nutshell:
There were once native americans who lived in mexico, just like there was in other parts of north america. They were conquered and essentially enslaved by the Spanish. The Spanish got their ass kicked by texas, and the US, and lost the land that is now Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California. After being beat up by the US, the local Spainiards and native central americans revolted and won their independence. Some of the natives ended up living in mexico, others ended up in the US. THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING WHO OWNS WHAT LAND NOW, SO STOP THINKING ABOUT IT. The end.
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01/24/2012 4:34:00 PM
This attitude is what is being outlawed. Teaching falsehoods likek "the ground is the native americans" That is WRONG. The wars are OVER. The land is now owned by whomever holds the deed. The natives are relegated to the reservations. Right or wrong this is how it is NOW. Get used to it. If you teach a group of idiots that they have "rights" to the "dirt" there will just be another episode of the majority proving them wrong, and more than likely having to do it with violence, once the idiots get violent trying to claim their unfounded "rights".
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01/24/2012 3:58:00 PM
Would you please explain why you do not have the guts to post under your name?
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01/24/2012 1:50:00 PM
Don't you wish you had some common sense. And some education. And just a little bit of class? So you are posting under how many names today? Must not have anything else to do. No job? meth lab was shut down?
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01/24/2012 1:46:00 PM
I'll bet some of them can spell better than you. And express their thoughts more clearly. And work harder. If you want to read a book that mirrors your pathology, pick up a copy of Mein Kampf. Or borrow it from one of your nativist friends.
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01/24/2012 1:44:00 PM
You are indeed a foolish goober, as ignorant in the Spanish language as you are lacking in knowledge of history and logic. It's "Jesu christo", not Jesus Christo. Jesus is a common name in the culture of Spanish-speaking countries.
By the way, the Germans invaded Poland with armies, bombed cities from the air and later rounded up Jews, intellectuals and other educated Poles and murdered them. That behavior which you have cited came from YOUR side of the political spectrum. From nativists and other sordid dregs of the far-right sewer pond. It is YOUR actions and words which best model the Nazis, with ypur racial xenophobia, distortion of history, chest-thumping nationalism, demonizing of all Mexicans and threats of violence. I'll bet you are very sorry WWII turned out the way it did...
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01/24/2012 12:59:00 PM
Your idea of culture is Aryan pure - the Herrenvolk kultur. That harebrained idea died in the bunker with the suicide of a very bad artist and even worse general.
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01/24/2012 3:48:00 AM
you can't appreciate culture, no you are the Asinine one.
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01/24/2012 3:47:00 AM
most of us are here illegally. ask the native americans.
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01/24/2012 3:46:00 AM
everyone should learn spanish and spanish history. i would rather send my child with paper towels, glue, etc. in order to learn spanish and the all important information contained in spanish history. viva la common sense.
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01/23/2012 8:07:00 AM
schools should not teach classes in spanish.kids should not have to listen to that.and budgets are tight public schools do not have the money to waste on such classes. do these kids if they deserve to be here need to learn english ,yes , but let these pro immigrant morons figure out how to set up schools to teach them not public funding. do you people realize how much it cost to send a kid to school each year. things the school used to provide are gone teacher budgets to set rooms up are a thing of the past they need to ask for basics like paper pencils,glue tissues,hand soap,paper towels,construction paper,craft items,note books,snacks,many of these items were at one time provided for whats next 1st grade study books is each childs mother and father going to have buy books too. and you idiots want to waste money on teaching spanish in public schools.
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01/23/2012 7:54:00 AM
I would rather live next to a registered sex offender then a family of illegals that come and demand rights they have no right to ask for. that demand food assit medical insur. even though the household income level would deny others but thier money is hidden.
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01/22/2012 6:36:00 PM
A bullshit screed from a person with a bullshit name. That's what you pull out of your pimply ass when you have nothing more valid to offer. Not even amusing. Just pathetically transparent.
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Jesus Cristo de Guadalajara 01/22/2012 5:41:00 PM
Would someone please explain to me how we will decrease unemployment by granting amnesty to some or most of the 12,000,000 people who are occupying the United States by illegal means?
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Jesus Cristo de Nogales 01/22/2012 5:39:00 PM
It is true my friend from La Raza. We mexicans must return to Mexico and kick out all the light skinned descendants of the colonial masters. We must take back our country before it is too late. Are you with us you ignorant mikefrombisbee?
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01/22/2012 3:49:00 AM
When you can't offer an effective response, tap dance...and talk shit. I am waiting for a response. When someone makes an assertion they should be able to back it up. Otherwise it is merely verbal flatulence. Can you back it up or are you just another shit talker?
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01/22/2012 3:44:00 AM
Did you have something meaningful to say?
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01/22/2012 3:43:00 AM
Ignorant. Simplistic. Unoriginal. Devoid of irony. Not at all entertaining. Asinine. Utterly devoid of any meaningful content. But a nice try.
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01/22/2012 3:40:00 AM
Hardly. But nice try. Maybe you'll do better with time. Again, do you have specifics? Or do you just want to talk shit?
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Hohohoazhohoho 01/21/2012 11:39:00 PM
please explain? it appears you have a future as an arizona politician... say anthing without support, facts, or any iota of proof.
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01/21/2012 7:37:00 PM
I suggest you open your eyes and avoid the liberal pablum.
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01/21/2012 7:36:00 PM
You must mean all the identity thieves, illegal border crossers, rapists, child molesters, car thieves and the rest too, eh?
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01/21/2012 7:32:00 PM
Then bitch at Spain whose language you speak.
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01/21/2012 7:30:00 PM
This is apparently your only source for 'news' so it does not surprise me that someone would have to do the search for you.
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Jesus Cristo de Nogales 01/21/2012 5:46:00 PM
All of us brown skin Mexicans presently occupying "El Norte", need to return to Mexico and take over the country from the pale skin descendants of the colonial masters. Kick out all the white skin occupiers of Mexico, our tue homeleand, with the help of Gustavo Arellano who will renounce his stay in "El Norte". He will be our new presidente in Mexico. Will you join us and Gustavo Arellano?
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01/20/2012 9:46:00 PM
And the environment from which that textbook came was such that specific minority groups were demeaned, marginalized. physically intimidated and denied access to the American dream. There are many in this country who still hate and fear those who are different. For many Americans those conditions of inequality still exist. Those are inconvenient facts that Huppenthal and Horne glossed over. They don't want students to read about racism in modern American history because it doesn't agree with Tory mythology. I have no problem with any ideas being discussed in classrooms. Neither do MAS teachers. Where you and some of the others are missing the point is that Hispanics and other people of color were indeed denied full economic, political and social benefits until very recent times in this state. I was a student at a school (Pueblo High School in Tucson) where a teacher, Dr. Henry Oyama (a man of Asian ancestry who grew up in a heavily Hispanic neighborhood) had to sue in order to marry a woman outside his "race." Should we ignore that such things happened? Or that kids on the west side of Tucson had the best auto shops in school (but not the best math and science programs) because that's what Mexicans learned to do? Tom Horne wouldn't have been allowed into certain hotels and restaurants in Arizona because he was a Jew. This was reality. The Civil War being called the war of Northern Aggression in a history book is far cry from telling the truth about conditions in America for people of color.
Please provide one specific instance of a student from a MAS class espousing hatred of Anglos. Please provide one documented instance of a MAS teacher advocating the overthrow of the United States government.
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01/20/2012 9:23:00 PM
Please tell us which MAS teacher taught students to hate? When and where did that happen? Please be specific. It will be very helpful to Mr. Hupenthal to have that information because at present, he has nothing specific to offer and the attorney for the students is going to be asking him the same question. I'm sure you can be the hero, providing that information.
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01/20/2012 8:57:00 PM
Gee, he has a superficial understanding of history. Gee, he couldn't find a single instance in which the MAS teachers violated the state law, gee, the auditors couldn't find fault with MAS, gee, you didn't really stay on topic, did you?
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think about it 01/20/2012 8:36:00 PM
Gee he doesn't like mass murders. You do? So you have no problem with Stalin, hitler, or Mao poster on the wall?
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Think about it. 01/20/2012 8:31:00 PM
Really? My neighbor taught school in the south in the 60s. The textbooks refered to the civil war as the war of northern aggression. Are you going to tell me its ok to bring that book into class? I didn't think so.
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Please explain? 01/20/2012 8:28:00 PM
Why is this so hard to understand? You're not allowed to teach kids hate. It doesn't matter is its teaching Jews to hate Blacks, Chinese to hate Japanese, Navajo to hate Hopi, Sihk to hate Muslim, or even Mexican-american to have Caucasian. Some one tell me why its not racist to teach hate?
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Gerardino0951 01/20/2012 7:25:00 PM
There should be a day set aside to recognize bigots and red neck folks whereby the entire nation reads who these idiots are, where they live and how their neighbors feel about living near them. The list should be publicized throughout the country with a national e-mail address available so these insensitive, bigoted people could be insulted publically for their lack of humility and inability to care for others. Insults should be straight forward and sting these social dropouts .
Wm. Gerardino
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Jesus Cristo de Guadalajara 01/20/2012 7:08:00 PM
News Alert: Since when is the mass exodus of the citizens of one country and to illegally another country considered "undocumented migrants" instead of occupation of the country. When the Hitler invaded Poland, I don't beleive they called the Germans "undocumented migrants". Do you?
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Adolfo Maldonado 01/20/2012 12:16:00 PM
Although I write poetry, this piece is from a Chicano activist from the 60's-70's. I still have my high school Mexican American Lit book and I have this particular poem marked. The poem still speaks to me today. Everything has changed, yet nothing has changed. Corky was one of many leaders/authors/professors/etc. that is now considered hateful and banned from classrooms. He was an intellect that fought for human rights and now his plight is my history and can't be taught.
The clock is somehow running backwards and the regressive hate that accompanied yesterday is upon us again. Hupenthal and Horne are opportunist and prey on the abundance of fear, hate, and ignorance in the community. As Lemons mentions, they are literally "creating the environment" that will set off a political revolution amongst minorities in general that will lead to new leadership sooner than later.
How ironic that Hupenthal and Horne are writing the histoy books themselves on the struggle of being Latino in 2012. Without realizing it, they are the villains in their own story.
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01/20/2012 4:49:00 AM
One of your most thoughtful pieces! I am appalled that this is happening in the United States of America--boxing books that the teachers purchased! Censorship? Monitoring teachers in their classrooms! What happened to the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution? Ethnic studies are taught all over the United States in thousands of universities, colleges, community colleges. The myopia and racism of those abolishing Mexican American Studies is appalling.
Adolfo Maldonado, I commend you on your superb poem! Thank you--you speak the truth--a very sorry truth. I am sorry that your truth is so accurate, again.
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Hock 01/19/2012 9:37:00 PM
Huppenthal was on NPR this week. He mad a complete ass out of himself. He embarassed Arizona. Yay voters!
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01/19/2012 7:07:00 PM
The law almost reads like the various "anti-sedition" acts passed and found unconstitutional. Besides, as the law was crafted, its almost a Bill of Attainder as it was clearly targeted at TUSD and their MAS program.
On a side note, why doesn't any conservative come and call Attorney General Horne a foreigner since he was *gasp* born in Canada?
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01/19/2012 6:52:00 PM
you actually believe these teachers are grooming kids to over through the government?
you are delusional, put the kool aid down.
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01/19/2012 1:46:00 PM
When, where and how did MAS teachers advocate the overthrow of the state and federal government? Please be specific, because it will be very useful information to the state department of education when they have to defend their actions and the state law in court. I am shocked that you did not share this important information with the defense team. Mr. Huppenthal has not been able to point to a single instance where the MAS teachers violated state law.
When and where have MAS students demonstrated hatred for "whitey" by attacking the gringo students in TUSD and advocated for violence against the U.S. government? Again, please be specific and then share your important discoveries with the defense team. At present, it seems they lack these critical revelations.
You must have been sitting very quietly and inconspicuously in the back of MAS classrooms at Cholla, Pueblo and Tucson Highs, taking copious notes while the teachers unfurled their insidious plan to return the southwestern U.S. to Mexico, impose socialist rule in Baja Arizona and force all Anglos to eat menudo after taking part in a protracted bacanora borrachera.
Now, tell us have you ever been to TUSD's west-side, heavily minority high schools? I have. I went to school there and return regularly as an alumnus. Have you been in the classrooms? I have. I taught there. Have you talked to the kids, teachers and administrators? I have, not very long ago. Or are you just parroting things you have been told without thinking them through yourself?
This will soon be settled in court. There, no self-serving sound bites will help political hacks elected on a platform of natiivism to score points with their like-minded constituents. And I'll bet you that Huppenthal or whoever testifies in his behalf will be just as effective at making their points in the legal proceedings as Arpaio, Thomas and Abuchon have been in the recent past.
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Adolfo Maldonado 01/19/2012 12:28:00 PM
I am Joaquin,
lost in a world of cofusion
caught up up in a whirl of
gringo society
confused by the rules
scorned by attitudes
suppressed by manipulation
and destroyed by modern society
My fathers
have lost the economic battle
and won
the struggle of cultural survival
and now!
I must choose
between a parodx of
victory of the spirit
despite physical hunger
or
to exis in the grasp
of american social neurosis
sterilization of the soul
and a full stomoch
Yes
I have come a long way to nowehere
unwillingly dragged by that
monstrous, technical, industial giant called
Progress
and anglo success....
I look at myself
I watch my brothers
I shed tears of sorrow
I sow seeds of hate.
I withdraw to safety within the
circle of life--
MY OWN PEOPLE
I am Chuatemoc
proud and noble
leader of men
king of an empire
civilized beyond the dreams
of the gachupin Cortez
who also is the blood
the image of myself
I am the Maya prince
I am Nezahualcoyotl
great leader of the Chichamecasa
I am he sword and flame of cortez
the despot
and
I am the eagle and serpent of
the Azteca civilization
I owned the land as far as the eye
could see under the crown of Spain
and I toiled on my earth
and gave my Indian sweat and blood
for the Spanish master
who ruled with Tyranny over man and
beast and all that he could trample
But
THE GROUND WAS MINE
I was both tyrant and slave
Rudolpho Corky Gonazalez
(now banned)
My people deserve to know their roots. Everyone does!
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US War Veteran 01/19/2012 7:36:00 AM
Walter, I agree with you that everyone can speak on this forum, however NO ONE has the right to spread lies and dis-information on any forum, specially when those lies and dis-information are designed to victimize or criminalize an entire group of people.
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AntiAZbigotS! 01/19/2012 3:18:00 AM
yes, Arizona is the mecca of hate!
"TUSD makes MAS teachers box banned books in front of students"
Of all the times to get rid of the newly banned books under Pedicone, he, the leader of the district, chose to make the teachers box the banned books in front of the students to really humiliate them. And to traumatize the students.
… and across the district such as at University High School. The mostly white kids there are able to read Bless Me Ultima, but Chicano students on the southside are banned from doing so, and monitors will be coming in to make sure teachers are not teaching from these books.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2012/01/16/video-tusd-makes-mas-teachers-box-banned-books-in-front-of-students/
Boycott Arizona Now!!!!
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Hot Maiz, Hot Corn! 01/19/2012 1:36:00 AM
Jesus man, I thought Daddy Joe had you on a leash.
Illegal immigration was not invented in the past decade; it has been a problem that all Border States have refused to deal with for past couple of millenniums until now!!! It hasn't been an issue when the white man uses the 90% drugs and most of the cheap labor that is smuggled over the border daily, but now when money and jobs are tight we somehow forget what all of our neighbors from the south have been the labor that have built our cities and carried our drugs and those people have helped to shape most of our southwest culture!
In Texas the Mexican's fought side by side his white counterpart to run out the aggressor Santa Anna, and we are taught this at a very young age, we were taught about how Poncho Villa was a villain, and was chased by the Texas Rangers into Mexico, but we were also taught that he was looked at by his community as a hero for helping his them stave off starvation and all of this was taught in public schools no less!
Today its idiots like Huppenthal ,that have forgotten that we don't have to fear our fellow man's teaching's we don't even have to respect him, but we must walk together in our journey here on Earth and we must respect their place in their history! So let them tell their stories and let both sides of the story to be told.
So reach out and thank that Hispanic house framer in Flagstaff or that Hispanic doctor from Globe; or the Latino Attorney in Phoenix who's families worked in your kitchen and the mother that raised those toe headed Mormons in Mesa, yes many of their families have came here illegally but we can’t forget what they have brought to this state and it’s a lot more than Hot Corn, Hot Tamales, and cold ,cold paletas. !! LOL!!!!
It’s the dream of making a better life for their family!!
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Allen 01/19/2012 1:10:00 AM
I just like pointing out blatant hypocrisy when I see it...
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Walter Concrete 01/19/2012 1:07:00 AM
As far as I know everyone can speak on this forum. We don't listen to just you, Jason. I know you probably find that hard to believe since you cut and paste so nicely. Why would a class be taught that approves the over throw of the federal or state government? With terrorism being a more important topic than personal liberty these days, I think that class would be one that would be banned by the government rather than supported for some twisted politically correct agenda. For those who do read things outside of the mainstream media, like books about reality and not fantasy, you know all about Martin King...what he was about, who wrote his speeches and why he did the things he did. But you won't find that here.
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Jason 01/19/2012 12:54:00 AM
It was written with truth. Sounds like you can't handle the truth.
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Jason 01/19/2012 12:52:00 AM
Agreed.
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Allen 01/19/2012 12:39:00 AM
That wasn't written with malice, was it? Nice job...
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01/19/2012 12:06:00 AM
The statute's gonna die in court. Huppenthal can't point to a single specific instance where MAS violated state statues. However, we DO know he didn't like Che Guevara's poster on the wall. But that Goober (Huppenthal) probably thinks Groucho Marx is a red, too!
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Jason 01/18/2012 11:19:00 PM
You must love hearing yourself talk, eh bub?
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Jason 01/18/2012 11:18:00 PM
A confused, homeless old guy (Huppenthal) and a man who constantly cries conflict of interest (Horne) created a statute designed to oppress a race of people.
I strongly suspect that ARS 15-112, the statute that kills MAS, was designed out of malice.
I seem to remember a pair of quotes by a pair of great men. Both were U.S. Presidents and of opposing parties.
"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."--President Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) 1861-1865
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend or oppose any foe to ensure the survival and success of liberty. This much, we pledge--and more."--President John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1960-1963
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Jesus de Juarez 01/18/2012 11:09:00 PM
Ask a Mexican when he / she plans to return to Mexico to legally apply for a work visa to legally enter the US?
Where in Mexico is Nicky Diaz Santillan? She was deported right?
When will Obwama end the illegal Mexican occupation of the United States of America?