In the vacuum created by Brewer, so-called cannabis clubs cropped up to serve the state's registered medical-marijuana patients, now numbering more than 36,000. Patients are allowed under the law to possess up to 2.5 ounces at any given time. Registered caregivers can't use marijuana unless they're also patients, but they can supply marijuana — and grow it, under certain conditions — for up to five patients.

Patients have flocked to the clubs as an alternative to the black market. Owners and operators of these modern-day speakeasies have claimed that they are exploiting a loophole in the law. The Arizona Medical Marijuana Act prohibits sales of marijuana except by state-authorized dispensaries, yet it allows patients and caregivers to exchange marijuana and even, in some cases, be reimbursed for its production.

The clubs typically consider themselves meeting places for collectives of caregivers or patients who have grown or otherwise obtained high-potency pot, which then can be exchanged. Instead of payment, the clubs and their associated collectives receive "donations" from members — which happen to match street prices of approximately $400 an ounce.

Allan Sobol preaches at his church.
Allan Sobol preaches at his church.
State Attorney General Tom Horne issued a non-binding opinion that Arizona should not have dispensaries, despite the wishes of voters.
New Times
State Attorney General Tom Horne issued a non-binding opinion that Arizona should not have dispensaries, despite the wishes of voters.

A few Valley clubs and/or collectives have been raided by police and shut down. But more keep popping up. At least one, the Arizona Cannabis Society in El Mirage, re-opened after a raid. Prosecutions have been fewer. After the federal Drug Enforcement Agency raided Tempe's Arizona Go Green Co-op, state Attorney General Tom Horne's office dropped charges against the owner, James Chaney, and an employee. Bill Hayes, one of the founders of the Arizona Cannabis Society, is yet to be charged after his outfit was busted by Phoenix police in May. And Garry Ferguson, whose Tempe club had the distinction last year of being the first such business to be raided, never was charged.

County Attorney Bill Montgomery, an ambitious conservative who wants the medical-marijuana law canceled by the feds, voters be damned, is moving forward with prosecutions of employees of two cannabis clubs, including Sobol's.

Montgomery is trying to force the issue, possibly in conjunction with police and the state Attorney General's Office. Fact is, the question about the legality of the clubs still is to be determined in Arizona, as authorities well know.

A civil action filed by Horne asking a judge to determine whether cannabis clubs and collectives are acting illegally has been simmering in court for more than a year. Early on in that case, Superior Court Judge Dean Fink rejected a motion by the state to enjoin the clubs from operating.

Another question is, what will happen to the clubs once the state-authorized dispensaries open?

And, of course, many questions swirl about the dispensaries themselves, which could open in a few weeks. The biggest question is whether federal or state officials will allow them to operate in peace.

A federal crackdown on dispensaries that began earlier this year in California has continued unabated. However, Colorado, which has a system of state-authorized pot stores similar to the one getting set up in Arizona, has seen no widespread crackdown.

On August 6, Horne released an official opinion that the Arizona law's dispensary component is unconstitutional because it is superseded by federal law. (The way the law decriminalizes cardholders and caregivers, though, wasn't preempted by federal law, his office decided.) Horne predicted that a state court soon will declare the dispensaries illegal, and he warned would-be dispensary owners that it might be wise to hold off on their plans.

Following Horne's opinion, Montgomery said he hoped to prosecute patients and caregivers who grow marijuana and dispensaries that sell it — even if they have state approval.

Despite the threats of prohibitionists, the names of 97 companies and groups that will be authorized to sell marijuana in Arizona were pulled from a lottery-style air-blower by the state Department of Health Services on August 7. The lucky applicants were culled from a total of 426 who each paid $5,000 for the opportunity to be in the running. The losers get $1,000 back.

DHS Director Will Humble tells New Times that he won't let his agency dawdle in the final inspection process. If a dispensary is ready to go and receives approval from inspectors, Humble says it could open as soon as September 1.

State law allows patients and caregivers to grow marijuana if no dispensary is open within 25 miles, so another byproduct of Brewer's tinkering will be a proliferation of home-grows. Some consider this a good thing, but others — especially those with interest in dispensary businesses — disagree.

The fierce competition among would-be dispensary owners, medical-marijuana advocates, and the state has spawned numerous lawsuits. Some predict the losers in the DHS drawing process also plan to sue.

Al Sobol — who made a splash in the news media, even before the 2010 law passed, with his mock dispensary in North Phoenix, complete with jars of moss as stand-ins for the real product — has managed to insert himself into many of medical marijuana's major issues.

He continues to run a school for hopeful dispensary owners. He's an unwilling test subject in how the anti-marijuana criminal code meshes with the more permissive new law. And he's a party in the lawsuit filed by Horne about cannabis clubs.

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charlie_oscar
charlie_oscar

I think it's time to stop "apologizing" to justify medical marijuana consumption. People feel the need to submit a medical history  - Obviously, this is because of the stigma that goes back to the 60's and hippy era. If you use marijuana you are lazy and unwashed!  You do not need to have stage 4 cancer and a prosthetic hip implant from 1954 made from balsa wood to justify pot use to the “non believers” !!

 

My blog site recently conducted an investigation in Los Angeles and watched the FBI spend $4 grand in tax dollars (man hours, informant fees, gasoline, etc) to pursue a $25 dollar bag of weed. Yes, 3.5 grams of cannabis - in a state where it is a non-criminal infraction and fine of $100 bucks.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAl1GcPJ5mU&feature=channel&list=UL

james.amster
james.amster

It's unfortunate that Allan Sobol is the face for the medical marijuana movement in Arizona.  He's an obnoxious, greedy, profiteer who has shown us what's wrong with the emerging medical marijuana system.  There's always got to be one in the crowd.  Allan fights to get his name in the paper, or any type of PR (there's no such thing as bad PR?) to get his name associated with the new movement.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

This is only the beginning as the Greedy Big $$ Dispensary Cartels and Puerile Pot Clowns begin to destroy the intent and purpose of "medical" marijuana in Arizona.

 

It took less than 24 months for them to completely destroy the Colorado Medical Marijuana system which had peacefully and privately existed since 2000.

 

Behold your future, Arizona.

marcy
marcy

Jan Brewer sticks to medicinal bourbon and can't understand why anyone would want to get high on pot when they could just get drunk like her and her friends.

JustforAz
JustforAz

The law passed by 43 people in 2010.  small or large, it passed, and with the voter initiative act of 2000 after Romley denied voters for years their medicine.  What is the deal with this corrupt Arizona government?  Their actually is a federal law that enables me as a federal disabled ADA patient to acquire my medicine without coercion by anyone other than a federal judge.  Anyone else can be detained or arrested for not allowing me to acquire my federal allowed medicine with a card or Medical Examination Need Report.

 Now as for this NON-profit church aka "medicine cooperative", what this founder is doing is not the most ethical, but it actually is the right way to run a NoN Profit cooperative by Rochester principles.. The problem the feds have is how the "profits" are distributed among the many local organizations and the release of medical marijuana to non medical card holders, which makes it a federal crime.  What gets me mad is the "coercion" he is playing with a law that just got passed and his going after other clubs with the authorities.  He is a greedy selfish man named "AS".  Throw the book at him!!

 I am also sick of Govenor Brewer.  She is playing a pick and choose operation in this state!  I believe the MMJ law had implemented a order of time that the law was suppose to be implemented and now it is 2 yrs. later and still not running.  I also believe that the dispensaries are suppose to be open RIGHT NOW while the ploiticians TRY to dismember the law in court.  I hear more lawsuits on individual person/s and state gov.concerning the new law.  Is Brewer  and gang--"KKK"?

It would make sense with what has been going on in AZ!

tom10545az
tom10545az

why doesnt montgomery and horne mentioned anything about the Voter Protection Act of 2000.....ya, know, the act put in place by "the people" in 2000 in response to the az legislature "voting" to "get rid of" the mmj law passed by az voters in 1998...ya, know the one that states "all initiative passed by the people can only be overturned by a 75% vote of the legislature"...period...not "if i think it applies" not "if i like it or not" and not"  fed law,world law,international law"..

remember you took an "Oath of "Office to uphold the ARIZONA constitution and ARIZONA laws, not the US Constitution and federal law....so even if you walk into STATE court, the judge is probally going  to  ask if you have the legislative votes, not DEA,FBI, fed law this or fed law that...remember under STATE law, prop.203(a voter passed initiative) falls directly under this law and the STATE judge does not care about fed law...that is for fed court not state court system. guys, if you want the initiative gone, just have our state reps vote it out, all you need is a 75% majority, now seee, isnt that easy?...go ahead, have them vote...go on...thats "the law" now isnt it?

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

Mr. Sobol has made many enemies in the local cannabis community. The cops and prosecutors dislike him as well. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

thcmc420
thcmc420

www.thehealingcentermedicalclinic.org

 

LEARN THE TRUTH

 

FREE THE PLANT

thcmc420
thcmc420

Hey Ray,

Allan Sobal told me personally he opened that church so his competitors could not open!

What lies he spews.

Also I fought Yavapi country and won with out of state MMJ card.

I helped over 1000 Az patients last year but left Az due to the amazing amount of corruption in Az.

JAN BREWER IS THE DEFINITION OF A NAZI !!!!!!

 

Mike Smith

The Healing Center Medical clinic

username53
username53

"auto-didactic" means you are a smart ass who believes you don't need all that book-lerning to engage in a profession and you are smarter than the professionals themselves. Loots of idiots like that out there.

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @tom10545az Meanwhile, up in Colorado voters prepare to vote on flat out legalization. A couple of other states, too, are doing similarly. How you going to deal with that, eh? Happy cerebral infarcts, Republican caucus! Enjoy being on the crappy end of the stick this time, prohibitionists. Might as well get used to it: your time has come and almost gone.

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @tom10545az They could, maybe get the legislature to put a repeal vote on the ballot. That, however, might backfire in their arrogant faces. Man up, tea baggers! Put that BS on the ballot and see how far you get.

webmusher
webmusher

@thcmc420 Mike Smith, didn't you leave Arizona because the Arizona medical Board found your Dr grossly incompetent and removed his license to practice medicine in the state? And now you have the same Dr passing out med cards to anyone with $250 in Alaska (for a short time anyway, I have put the wheels in motion to have his right to practice medicine here in Alaska removed too.) 

You are a blight on the medical marijuana movement and your only in it for the quick buck you see.

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @thcmc420 I don't think I'd goes as far as to describe Brewer as a Nazi. Fascist is probably more accurate.

MrAmazing
MrAmazing

 @SeedyWard Once again, bigotry rears its ugly head. Just like not all liberals are communist / socialist / tree huggers / pro-gay marriage (just look at CA, heavily liberal, yet pro-traditional marriage), not all Republicans / Conservatives want to see marijuana or any other drug criminalized. Many, and I mean many, vote for decriminalization and legalizing when given the choice.

tom10545az
tom10545az

 @SeedyWard  @tom10545az one more thing, monty and hony(i was going to say horney, but i didnt), in oct the circuit court for D.C.(that is a federal court, ya know) will start hearing on the DEA's having marijuana as a Schedule I drug..this is really going to be fun, with all the studies from "independent" scientist, dr's, etc. from around the world, not to mention sativex is available now or in a country near you soon..

 

.so its now gonna be....No Medical use in the USA..that outta go over good, or how about "becasue we said so, go to hell with evidence"...i know, you will use about 8-10,000 words to basically same the same thing....but really, you think a  federal judge is gonna go along with that, is this country really that far gone?

better hurry up, things are really lookin' bad for y'all, even at the "Federal Law"(your term)...level

if your lookin' to enforce "federal law", why dont you go help the feds in oregon and colorado arrest everybody when it becomes legal in nov.

 

 

MrAmazing
MrAmazing

 @SeedyWard Your nasty little Tea Party comment shows your utter ignorance, bigotry and hate. As a TP supporter I fully support complete legalization of pot, decriminalization of drug use, and a litany of other things you liberal bigots think "we" are "all" against. Feel free to keep being an idiot, but stop speaking at or for me or many of my friends, as you simply expose your dimwittery.

thcmc420
thcmc420

alaskahemp.com domain name record

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Webmusher Design

Bill Fikes

8990 W. Angel Dr.

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Wasilla, AK 99623 US

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BILL FIKES You have been reported to Alaska state trooper Anderson incident. # ak-13076263

You have been notified to quite HARRASING us and our staff and our doctors. All postings are going directly to our attorney Lance Wells. We are filing a temporary restraining order Monday in anchorage. Due to your threats and being mentally deficient we will ask that your guns be removed from your possession. MARIJUANA IS NOT LEGAL IN ALASKA UNLESS YOU HAVE A STATE ISSUED MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD!

You are a stupid

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samfox
samfox

 @SeedyWard for you & your lib prog friends:

WR Hearst was a Dem. He is the one behind fed MJ prohibition. WR was a greedy liar, fear monger & anti MJ propagandist.

Did I mention Hearst was a DEMOCRAT??? :-)

"With the blessing of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, a DEMocrat, Anslinger lead the way into getting the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 passed by a DEMocratic Party majority Congress and signed into law." [Emphasis added. :-)]

Said law was signed by FDR, a DEMOCRAT POTUS.

Above quote from:

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2011/04/happy-birthday-to-the-war-on-drugs/

Going by your logic, that would mean all Dems are prohibs. But we know better than that, correct?I have never lumped all D's together like you do TEA's & conservatives.

Since you seem to hate the TEA peeps, I guess you oppose the only major 'party' candidate who would would work to RE-legalize herb & hemp, call the feds off CA & pardon all nonviolent 'drug offenders' in the USA. ALL of them!! 0 keeps ALL of them locked up...who are the bad guys again? :-)

Ron Paul is the major 'party' candidate. Full disclosure: Ron is not for USING drugs. He thinks it's a bad idea. As best I can tell, in spite of his personal views, he IS for restoring civil liberties & the ownership of your body back to you. Drugs, prohibition ect for him are subtopics. The main topic is individual freedom & liberty in conjunction with personal responsibility, restoring state rights & the fed govt following the US Constitution.

So what's yer dude doing? By his inactivity to cease the raids, 0 is encouraging the fascist gestapo our militarized police on all levels have become & are becoming. Like I said above, 0 is doing nothing about the CA raids & illegal intervention of the feds into state affairs. Can you support 0 with your vote  with out supporting his heavy handed allowance of fed raids on civil liberties in CA?

Just askin. I would think if you are for restoring individual freedom you would like Ron Paul a lot. Go figure...

You are correct. Mitt & P Ryan are more than likely just as bad.

SamFox

 

 

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @MrAmazing If it's impossible to know what tea baggers believe, then why do they advertise their bizarre agenda? Furthermore, why would anyone join up with them unless their agenda were easily understood? They don't seem to be the sharpest pencils in the pack.

As far as the disgusting sexual reference, they adopted it before we hanged it on them. The reference had to be explained to the old anachronisms after they were already using it. Only then did they back peddle and get all squeamish.

MrAmazing
MrAmazing

 @Tomato Teabagger is a disgusting sexual reference, so by your own words you expose your bigotry - defined as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance". 

 

Thought you might want clarification as you clearly do not know the definition of the word.

MrAmazing
MrAmazing

 @SeedyWard And by definition you prove your bigotry. It is literally impossible to know what most Tea Party members are like or believe, and so your hate speech from the disgusting "tea bagger" to your piss comment continue to expose your rage and hate. Seems the libbies are coming unhinged all over. Sad really, I though y'all had more substance.

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @MrAmazing You wouldn't even have the chance to vote on these issues if it weren't for rabble rousers like us. I'll admit bias against the tea baggers, though. Bigotry would be way too strong a word, as I view most tea baggers as ignorant simpletons. Libertarians OTOH, at least think about issues and I respect their point of view. Social conservatives can drink my piss.

Tomato
Tomato

Don't you just love it when Teabaggers start calling other people bigots. Look up the word, Mr. Amazing... It's imposible to be a bigot against bigots.

samfox
samfox

 SeedyWard. , well seedy, Mr. Amazing is right.

The meet up groups that became the TEA Party, by a huge margin , support Ron Paul. Ron is an inspiration to us TEA peeps.

 

Dr. Paul also happens to be in favor of RE-legalizing smoked cannabis & industrial hemp. Ron would pardon all non-violent 'drug offenders' if elected. 0 would NEVER do that. 0 has allowed raids in CA after saying he would ease up.

You should be on 0 & his administration's case, more than the TEA peeps. Not all lib progs are for RE-legalization either.

 

I am TEA party, fiscal conservative, Christian & Ron Paul supporter. Like Dr. Paul, I advocate for the restoration of the Bill of Rights & that the fed govt should be put back under our Constitution's restrictions..Your boy 0 is just the opposite, so tell us again, who are the bad peeps?

 

I also advocate, as Dr. Paul, that the war on some drugs be ended. I advocate that all drugs should be re-legalized & run through state dispensaries, no feds at all. There should be councilors for the many street user addicts who want to be free to quit & free from prosecution.

 

Before any one is allowed to purchase, at lower than cartel prices, their stuff of choice, there should be Consequences Of Use education. Some street drugs are very dangerous, almost as dangerous as Rx concoctions.

 

Like Dr. Paul said at one of the debates, something along the lines of: "It's not about legalizing heroin! It's about restoring civil liberties!" in a reply to a Fox 'News' dude who was trying to bait & switch the topic.

 

You are tacitly saying that only TEA peeps & conservatives are for prohibition. Are all the voters in AZ TEA? No. So, going by the thin margin that passed the MMJ law, there are those from all sides that voted against the reform. You cheap shot was not very well thought out.

 

But that's usually the case for those who follow Rules For Radicals...

 

Now let us at least  unite on the point at hand, please. Thanks.

Not an attack or smear, nor am I posting in anger. I only offer a big correction to your mis-conception.

 

SamFox

 

teknik
teknik topcommenter

 @MrAmazing unfortunately the tea party is overrun with big government social conservatives who care nothing about my person privacy and my right to liberty inside of my own home.

MrAmazing
MrAmazing

 @SeedyWard I have zero interest in discussing anything with you as your choice of words and attitude give 6 year olds a bad name. It seems nastiness and vitriol are liberal standard bearers and the vast majority of us are beyond sick of your hate and judgment. Making sweeping generalizations about people you do not know is the very definition of bigotry, which is just another kind of hate. 

SeedyWard
SeedyWard

 @MrAmazing Face facts: most of your tea bagging buddies are on the other side of the issue. Half of the rest are just waiting for their alleged superiors to tell them what to think. How much pro-cannabis agitation have you seen come from tea bag HQ?

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

 @Cozz Look up the definition of neo-facism. You will find a spot on description of Az conservatism.

thcmc420
thcmc420

Private investigator old drunk man get it right

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thcmc420
thcmc420

A bona-Fide relationship is seeing them in person.

Dr failed to check data base when he wrote for pain pills.Stupid mistake NOT A REASON TO LOSE LICENSE

ARIZONA MEDICAL BOARD DOES NOT WANT MMJ THEY WANT YOU TO DIE USING PAIN PILLS...........

THE ARIZONA MEDICAL BOARD ARE

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WILL HUMBLE IS A LOSER DRUNK

GOV BREWER IS A UGLY OLD HAG THAT IS DRUNK EVERYDAY

ARIZONA SUCKS GLAD I AM NOT THERE

TWEKER CENTRAL IS WHAT ARIZONA IS?

thcmc420
thcmc420

 @abcwhocares 

Use your real name if you expect a reply

No but it looks like Allan did ratting out others in a courtroom so they can not open.

Just sayin

abcwhocares
abcwhocares

 Mike Smith the law man now? You join the police force or something? @thcmc420 

thcmc420
thcmc420

 @abcwhocares 

Az state law requires a Bona-fide Doctor patient relationship NOT prior medical records.

Learn the law before you spew.

abcwhocares
abcwhocares

Right. But the reason I asked Mike Smith instead of some other douchebag was because the real Mike Smith doesn't take direction from THE MAN and says fuck the law because patients need protection. Maybe I mistook you for someone else who used to certify patients without any medical records because its the right thing to do. @thcmc420 

 

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