She did the crime and she should do the time. Undoubtedly US taxpayer dollars are paying for the treatment of her child's cancer so you would think she would be a bit more respectful of our laws.
By Monica Alonzo
By Ray Stern
By New Times Staff
By Stephen Lemons
By Chris Parker
By Monica Alonzo
By Stephen Lemons
By Robrt L. Pela
In 2011, he began appearing at forums sponsored by the Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform, from which the SANE initiative eventually would spring.
At one such public forum in May at the Competitive Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., Montgomery walked a fine line.
While defending Russell Pearce as "neither a bigot nor a racist" and insisting that Arizona had suffered an immigration-related onslaught that included "beheadings," he dismissed mass deportations of the undocumented as impractical and inhumane and suggested a "three-year hiatus against enforcement" of immigration laws as the undocumented come forward to register under the SANE plan.
Montgomery spoke of growing up "just south of South Central Los Angeles in a predominately Hispanic neighborhood" and avowed that his Roman Catholic faith is "heavily influenced" by Hispanic culture.
Nevertheless, he continues the systematic policy of persecution authored by Thomas and Pearce, one that adheres to the slogan "attrition through enforcement" — the stated intent of SB 1070, Arizona's "papers, please" law.
Though Prop 100 preceded SB 1070 by four years, it was one of several laws and ballot initiatives designed to drive undocumented Hispanics from the state.
It mainly was pushed by Pearce and his fellow nativists, who were openly antagonistic toward the undocumented.
A March 2008 Arizona Republic article on Prop 100 and its effects paraphrased Thomas' calling the constitutional amendment a "de facto deportation tool" in which undocumented defendants are hit with felonies, held without bond, and effectively coerced into pleading guilty.
When Thomas was deposed in 2010 for the ACLU's legal challenge to Prop 100, he doubled down on that statement, crowing that his office lobbied for Prop 100 and that it was part of his "program" to address illegal immigration.
By charging illegal immigrants with felonies, "a deterrent message goes forward to other would-be illegal immigrants," Thomas said under oath, "that they should not violate the law and come into Arizona illegally."
Additionally, Thomas offered his reason for "obtaining a felony conviction" against an undocumented person before turning over him or her to ICE:
"It will make it harder for that convicted person to immigrate legally to the United States or become a U.S. citizen."
Unlike Montgomery, who depicts the pursuit of felonies against the undocumented as something he has no power to change, Thomas specifically referred to his "policy direction to seek a felony conviction for those cases."
Thomas called this "my own no-amnesty policy," because it makes it more difficult "for those people prosecuted and convicted in that way to receive amnesty and become citizens if they have a felony conviction."
Thomas and his allies in the Arizona Legislature knew exactly what they were doing. The proposition was sold to the public as a way, in the words of Russell Pearce, to keep "dangerous thugs" incarcerated.
"By voting yes for this initiative," Pearce wrote in a statement that appeared in the Arizona Secretary of State's 2006 voter's guide, "we keep violent criminals in jail."
Undocumented aliens were to be charged with "serious felony offenses as prescribed by the [L]egislature," in the words of the constitutional amendment. It was not made clear that these "serious" offenses would include such non-violent transgressions as making up a Social Security number or using a fake ID to obtain employment.
Lack of valid documentation is the very definition of "undocumented." Those residing in Arizona without authorization cannot obtain driver's licenses, and Mexican Consulate-issued matricular cards and Mexican driver's licenses are viewed with suspicion by law enforcement.
Additionally, under the portion of 1070 upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, "reasonable suspicion" on the part of a law enforcement officer is enough for detention and an immigration inquiry.
The combination of SB 1070, Prop 100, routine stops by law enforcement, and Arpaio's notorious immigration roundups and raids created a situation in which every undocumented resident of this state is a potential felon waiting to be convicted, separated from his or her family, and sent packing.
Prop 100's legislative history, the statements of Thomas and Pearce, and the U.S. Department of Justice's 2011 findings that Arpaio's raids and sweeps specifically target Latinos — in violation of the 14th Amendment's guarantee of equal protection under the law — all belie Montgomery's rationales for a cruel, bigoted policy.
The Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids "excessive bail," and Arizona courts have held that bail cannot be used as a means of inflicting punishment, given the presumption of innocence that all defendants should have.
So it would seem that either the courts or the Sheriff's Office or the county prosecutor would know how many people sit non-bondable in Maricopa County Jails under the dictates of Prop 100.
Yet all three entities claim ignorance of this information after repeated inquiries and public-records requests from New Times.
In reality, the MCSO has access to this information through its computerized Jail Management System, as do the county prosecutor and the courts.
And when faced with a subpoena and a deposition under oath during the ACLU's Prop 100 lawsuit, MCSO employees were able to cough up some stats.
In his 2010 deposition, MCSO Sergeant Jonathan Knapp testified that in a five-month period from August to the end of December 2009, 2,070 inmates were booked and held non-bondable under Prop 100, 402 of whom had been arrested by the MCSO.
She did the crime and she should do the time. Undoubtedly US taxpayer dollars are paying for the treatment of her child's cancer so you would think she would be a bit more respectful of our laws.
The artist's brilliantly done cover page for the Phoenix New Times says it all. A picture is worth a thousand words.
"America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."
Alex De Tocqueville, a very wise 1840's French Historian.
This sum's up America's Immigration, and Economic Crisises, which both began January 2008 with the I.C.E. Deportation/Incarceration Programs which are responsible for Tens of Thousands of now Dead Hispanic's at the Harsh U.S. Mexico Border where I.C.E. Dumped Hundreds of Thousands of Human Beings into a known "Drug War" with nothing, not even water to be Killed, or to Die of the Harsh Elements.
To: Good, and Brotherhood, from Sea to shining Sea.
@DNichols ..Well said. The culture of those educated in the military, do not reflect the civilian side of fair and equal justice, or a presumption of innocence and due process, unlike Peace officers' training --- now being turned into paramilitary.
When the mentality is "shoot first, ask later", the presumption of innocence is lost.
There is no common sense being used. There is no "smart on crime" that would not only save innocent lives and families from destruction, but also save taxpayers' hundreds of millions of wasted $$$'s by overzealous prosecutors, who have absolute immunity and no accountability.
The awesome power of the prosecutor targets you and your life is done. Study the pattern and history of the MCAO.
MCAO Montgomery doesn't believe people are innocent, wrongfully convicted, over-sentenced or overcharged or he would take action to undo the damage done by his disgraced, disbarred predecessors instead moving to the next witch-hunt of the moment. His predessor, disbarred former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas' over 200,000 felony CASES cry out for investigation of abuse of power, over-zealous prosecution of the innocent, but he's swept these under the rug.
The Hispanics are the easy target but ALL are at risk for the same. This IS the public's problem. With the military-style justice we are now living in our new reality -- no justice at all but a growing military / police state. The following is the reality.
WHEN WARS COME HOME
Op-Ed Police officers at a checkpoint during the manhunt Christopher Dorner, an ex-
Los Angeles cop accused of three killings, on State Route 38 in Angelus Oaks, Calif., Feb. 12, 2013. (Photo: Patrick T. Fallon / The New York Times)
"In the flood of commentary about the Newtown massacre and broader US gun violence, liberals tend to blame failures of gun control while conservatives blame the mentally ill and Hollywood. But they are both missing one important and overlooked explanation: the domestic consequences of a militarized superpower engaged in chronic wars around the world."
After reading seaveral of the comments on the page I feel that I might be in the wrong forum. I am and will allways be a republican and I live in Arizona where the border crossings are bad. What happened to the idiology of taking care of your own first and others later. We are a democracy that gives billions of dollars to other countries and is talking about raising taxes. And know we want to take in at least 11 millon people. I understand all the pollitics to this endenor but I am against it. TAKE CARE OF THE POOR AND OTHERS IN THE US FIRST
@glennp21 being a part of the nazi/fascist party of NO (repugs) only shows just how far you have become a person of petty thoughts and deeds
To: Mother Jones
It sounds like you are a religious person which I appreciate, but we have a constitutional law that separates government from state. WE THE PEOPLE are having a hard enough time fending for our selfs and we have had the burden of the illegal population on our backs for some many years.
@glennp21 religion has no part of our government WE THE PEOPLE IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE not just the ones you want
"But human beings matter little in the corporate state"... MCAO is the entry point to Arizona's "shredding-machine", where undocumented workers who built the state of Arizona's "new"growth were criminalized by his predecessor's laws and agenda, joined at the hip with Arizona's true "God", an aging county sheriff. Montgomery is advancing their agenda. This has gotten worse, not better.
Rascon is another vulnerable, female victim, and mother, who is "easy" prey for the MCAO and their years of SOP (standard operating procedure). Arizona does NOT respect women or mothers. This tragic situation is another example of a county and state run by the "good ole white boys" = narcissists-obsessed with their power and "control"
Profiting From Human Misery
"But human beings matter little in the corporate state. We myopically serve the rapacious appetites of those dedicated to exploitation and maximizing profit. And our corporate masters view prisons—as they do education, health care and war—as a business. The 320-bed Elizabeth Detention Center, which houses only men, is run by one of the largest operators and owners of for-profit prisons in the country, Corrections Corporation of America. CCA, traded on the New York Stock Exchange, has annual revenues in excess of $1.7 billion. An average of 81,384 inmates are in its facilities on any one day. This is a greater number, the American Civil Liberties Union points out in a 2011 report, “Banking on Bondage: Private Prisons and Mass Incarceration,” than that held by the states of New York and New Jersey combined.
The for-profit prisons and their lobbyists in Washington and state capitals have successfully blocked immigration reform, have prevented a challenge to our draconian drug laws and are pushing through tougher detention policies. Locking up more and more human beings is the bedrock of the industry’s profits. These corporations are the engines behind the explosion of our prison system. They are the reason we have spent $300 billion on new prisons since 1980. They are also the reason serious reform is impossible."
I agree with you that the point of the article was about her treatment at the hands of the criminal justice system. Having worked in that system for years, I know that our legal system is not what the pollyanna's describe. Also, you are right in that I do not know that she does not know any English at all. But many many immigrants from Mexico are here for years and make no effort to learn English. I truly believe that if you are willing to learn English, you should be permitted to stay and, if you are not willing, you should be deported.
The Pilgrims should have done, but it is too late for them (and for the Native Americans then and since, unfortunately). It is difficult to move somewhere and both survive and learn. However, it can be done if the individual has enough commitment to their new land and its people. My elderly relatives did not speak perfect English. But they tried, and that is the point. I have an uncle who has lived most of his life overseas. He came over once, with a friend, who spoke no English. The friend watched US television, and learned. He would not then (or now) pass as a college English professor (who would?). However, with my uncle's help, and taking the proactive approach, he was able to communicate on at least a basic level. Every immigrant watches television. Why not watch English speaking television and learn? Same with radio stations. There are many varieties, listen to one in English. Talk to people whom you know that are bi-lingual. Show that you have something of a commitment to your new country. And, unfortunately, their bilingual children drop out of school at the highest rate of any group, because they do not get any support at home. This dooms them to a perpetual underclass which they do not deserve.
We all have our problems, and higher priorities. But if you live in the US for eleven years, that is more than enough time to be able to communicate in English. It is not easy, but nothing is easy. It is not easy for we who are here or for the people who arrive. And, for the record, I believe that anyone who wants to move to the US, and is neither a criminal nor desirous of blowing us up, should be allowed to do so. But with rights come responsibility. No one has an inherent right to move to another country. Many countries do not permit immigration at all. If a country is willing to afford someone the option of moving here, the least that person can do to earn this privilege is to learn the language.
normajae, i am laughing now! I am not a "white supremist", nor did i say "treat them like cattle" nor am i a "Nazi", sorry. The only people i hate are only an exwife, people who knowly commit crimes then cry like babies when caught instead of accepting responsibilty for what they've done, and the people who scream support for them. And illegals are crimminals.
motherjones. I've spent my time in the desert, protecting the your right to say what you want. I've been to hell, and paid for it dearly. Your misguided efforts to disparage the God loving citizens, and THEIR country, against the hoard of illegal aliens will earn you your time in Hell, you old cunt. You forgot to say that these illegals are all cowards who leave their country instead staying and fighting to improve their company. They instead, come to our country with a pack or drugs straped to their back, knowing that they are commiting a crime. Steal someones identity, they know is another crime, and then cry when their caught. And then hope cunts, like you, will scream and yell that the illegal, crime commiting cowards, are being treated unfairly. I love my country and the citizens that i have killed for and if you are a citizen, you will go to a special hell for turning your back on Him and your country. You should be put on a deportation bus, and sent back with the criminals you love so much. Preach your disrespect for this country and its citizens from your new home. Oh yes, fuck you, you old cunt! You are the shithead!
@Steve70 Go back to the desert and rot. Protecting us? From what? The dishwashers? You dumb, lazy redneck.
Sorry, but you have become boring. You are a great example for a saying my father had, "Never try to teach a cunt how to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the cunt". And you sure are an annoyance.
@Steve70--Mother jones works for or is the so called writer Lymons or better Lemmons for new times so you know who ur talking to.He is pretty pathetic is he not.You can find him down at this rags office (huh mother)
@Steve70 Last time u saw a cunt in person was coming out of your mom's vagaygay. Otherwise, it's Five Fingers Freddy for you.
@Steve70 Something else, play the vet card elsewhere, fucktard. .George Lincoln Rockwell was a vet. So was Timothy McVeigh. Bet you guys wldve gotten along just fine.
That's good Mutha Jones. I suggest you get a writer or, better yet, learn to write yourself. It can be done!
Unfortunately, your attitude represents one of the reasons the right wing has gotten as far as it has in this country. Three of the most beautiful words in the dictionary, liberal, progressive, and multicultural, have been demonized, quite successfully unfortunately, because of people who have accepted bastardized interpretations of them, as propagated by the right wing.
Liberal means tolerant. This includes tolerance of other peoples' opinions. Liberals were, until the term was hijacked by the politically-coerced censorship set, reasonable people who wanted to make things better for all, not just a few 'protected' peoples. To a traditional liberal, social justice was for everyone, not just for the flavor of the day. To a genuine liberal, who no longer exists in the mainstream of today's political debate, censorship is anathema. People with whom you disagree may be engaged, and reasoned with. A true liberal does not shoot inaccurate labels at anyone who not only does not agree with them, but might phrase things differently in agreement. A true liberal cares for all people, and is not roped into flow charts of good peoples and bad peoples. There was a wonderful line attributable to Zero Mostel when asked if he would work with Jerome Robbins, who cooperated with HUAC, "Lefties don't blacklist." That is no longer the case. Liberals also resist any imposition of religion into a secularized society. This includes Fundamentalist Christianity, but it also includes ANY OTHER RELIGION.
Multicultural is another beautiful word which makes many people cringe. Not because the word is abhorrent, but because the concept has been hijacked. The idea that all cultures enrich a country, and should be respected, is a great one. I firmly believe it is this word, spoken or not, which represents what has made the US such a great country. Every immigrant group that has come to the US, from the Dutch on down, has made the US a better place. To honor other peoples' cultures is to honor yourself.
But what does it mean today, in our politically-coerced censorship era? It means no one should make any effort to be a part of a country. It means to learn the language of a country is to somehow demean yourself and your own culture. That is not what multicultural means. A country has a shared language. Every immigrant group through history has learned English. Most of these groups were proud to do so. My own ancestors spoke other languages, and kept their cultures within their homes and their families, as well as their communities. But, if someone from the government had spoken to them in their native tongues, they would have been insulted, as it would have insinuated they were incapable of speaking English. Their languages of origin continued to be spoken, and taught to their children. But, when dealing on a public basis, English was recognized as the language of the US, which it is. If a person or group will not grasp this basic element of respect, then they do not belong here, and are not worthy of respect themselves.
Dr. Martin Luther King said he wanted to live in a world where people are judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Well, I submit that to move to a country and make no effort to learn the language of this country, demonstrates their character is extremely questionable. A true progressive would help and encourage these people to learn, not insist that everyone else pander to their ignorance. Multicultural does not necessarily mean that the US should become a Tower of Babel.
I fully expect your response to be hysterical, accusatory, and and full of labels. As I say, to those who genuflect at the altar of politically-coerced censorship, reason is a pejorative.
@soulmercer7 Huh? I never endorsed political correctness or censorship, never would.
Nor do I have a problem with people learning English, or any other language for that matter.
I think many immigrants are just busy working their asses off and making sure their kids get to school and do their homework. The kids are usually bilingual. Keep in mind many immigrants are not well-educated. And learning a language is tough even for the well educated.
Did all of the Pilgrims learn Wopanaak (the language of the native Wampanoag)? Um, no.
Arizona has a well deserved egregious reputation on almost every measure of civilization, whether with regards to education, human rights, treatment of its inmates, treatment of employees, you name it. I grieve at the way people are pushed around in this state, and have little or no recourse from a government which, until recently, included a Nazi sympathizer in the legislature.
All that said, we are a country with fewer resources to help people than in the past. It is a huge waste of money to subsidize ignorance. It is wrong headed, and goes against people being helped and helping themselves. It is irresponsible and disrespectful to move to a country, any country, and from any country, and make absolutely no effort to communicate with the people in their language. I believe in helping people, but I do not subscribe to enabling them. If someone moves here they need to learn English. If you have lived here for at least eleven years and made no effort to learn English than this is the wrong country for you. You need to move to a country where your language of choice is spoken. If I offer you a job, and you are unwilling to go to this job, you are not helping yourself. If someone offers you a service, and you are unwilling to travel to an office to claim this service, you are not helping yourself (not unable, unwilling). The time is past where all one needs to do is say help me, and wait for help to be delivered. It is simply never going to happen again. People need to take responsibility for their actions.
I do not wish for this lady to be in custody. She is not a criminal. However, she is not a legitimate US resident either. Send her home. Or, give her a reasonable amount of time to learn English. If she will not, then send her home. And that goes for anyone who moves here and will not show the common respect and decency to learn the language. This does not mean abandoning your culture, or not showing pride in your origins, it means making an effort instead of waiting for everyone else to pander to your ignorance. I share this view with the great fellow liberal Walter Cronkite.
@soulmercer7 Why do you assume that Rascon "made no effort to speak English" or that she doesn't know any English at all for that matter? Just because she preferred to do an in depth interview in her native tongue? That seems like a pretty big presumption. Also, the point of the article is that she should be given a "reasonable amount of time to learn English" or just a defense to deportation at all. Right now she is in criminal proceedings and the plea offer equals automatic deportation. With a different plea she'll still face deportation, but an immigration judge will decide if she qualifies to stay. Certain convictions equal automatic deportation with no defense. I think the point of the story is that criminal prosecutions should punish the criminal activity, not try to get the person automatically deported without letting an immigration judge decide.
Yes, i am a sinner, and so are you. I have given my life to Christ many times. I have been given last rights three times thus far, all in the service of the military and its citizens. Evil has not takenover my mind, but the protection of my fellow citizens. The Lord sent a hoard of locusts to Egypt in order to devour the food of the citizens, an now, he sends a hoard of cowardly illegal scum to devour the rescources of this nation and its citizens. And, as i have done twice before, i fight to protect this nation now. I fought for the Dream Act, for it protects our young citizens. Regardless of how, they are citizens, but those among us, who are here illegally, have to go. And countrys like mexico, have dual-citzenship, so despite the propaganda, familys do not have to split up. It is the illegal cowardly scum that seperate the family and then cry like babies that this country is doing it. A lie! My own gardner is a wetback, and i have reported him and company he words with to our illustrious Sheriff Joe. That is my duty to my country!
@Steve70 Sorry, dumbass, they are not going to go. They're staying. There will be immigration reform this year. Here's hoping you die soon of natural causes and get that last right one last time, so you can make room for another undocumented kid.
Oh, and I got a message from your God for you: FUCK YOU, SHITHEAD!
@MotherJones Mother,ur getting pretty personnel now,i doubt if the SHERIFF would give a shit if a bunch of vets said hello to you now DOUCHBAG.Be good LYYYmonds.
Then send them to God, so he can take care of them, not us. He even loves cowards, which is what they all are. To desert their own country, instead of fighting to change their country, is the greatest form of cowardice there is. And when they come here they fly the flag of their previous country, the one the cowards deserted, and say their proud to be mexicans. No, just cowardly leeches. Send them back or send them to God!
@Steve70 They are more courageous than you'll ever be, asshole. When's the last time you've crossed the desert for a better life and to feed your kids. Here's hoping God has a special place in hell reserved for xenophobic trash like you.
I don't feel sorry for these people just like in Mexico when you are in their country illegally.
Lets talk about it from that point of view for a change!
I am a victim of identity theft here in AZ. I don't bear my grudges against ALL illegals, just the one who used my info. She claimed "exempt" on her W-4's, and then went on to make $28K in one year and $30K the next year. Because of this the IRS audited me for unpaid taxes, I lost my house, my bank accounts were emptied and here 3 years later I am still trying to get some shred of a resemblance to the life that I once had. I worked hard to put myself through college and get a good job to support myself and my children (especially after thier father passed 5 years ago) and continue to work hard but it is very hard for me to feel like illegals (who use stolen or forged identification) are the ones being wronged in these situations when I am living proof that that is not always the case. I work with and am friends with several people who came here illegally and have not done these things in order to get a job. They have proved that they are invaluable workers and have been granted work visas and/or green cards. If you are here to contribute to our society as yourself then by all means stay, if you are here to use someone else's i.d. and get them in trouble for your actions with the federal/state/local governments and then just move on to someone else's i.d. then you really should not be here.
Illegal Entry is a CRIME..Working without authorization is a crime..producing a false govt. document is a crime..The sooner they deport this criminal trash the better!
She did this eleven years ago and she STILL does not speak English? Send her home, she does not belong here. No one should be living in the US for eleven years without learning English.
Time to end absolute immunity for prosecutors and County Attorneys! They have shown they abuse their power, over and over again.
"There is one ABSOLUTE solution to this problem. Unfortunately it’s an Islamic idea but it is a very good one none the less. In Islamic countries if they bring charges against you and you win in court the person bringing the charges gets the sentence you were going to get, death penalty included. That’s why there are so few charges, so few prisoners and so few attorneys in Islamic countries. This immunity crap is an abomination to justice and liberty. It permits prosecutors to do as they like with impunity. Sure there is Brady v. Maryland but you have to first know about it and then get the courts to recognize it before it is of any benefit to anyone. Good luck with that one. Our nation wasn’t built on the idea of justice and liberty only for those who are smart or informed enough to get it. It was built on justice and liberty for ALL." by informed citizen
Beyond better handle on public relations? Not much difference...Partisan and willing to spend tax dollars for own desires is an exact match.
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