Injustice for All: The Florence PD Compromised Public Safety

SPECIAL REPORT: FLORENCE EXPOSED | Part one of three


Richard McAnally was annoyed. His face, framed by a shock of gray hair and a pair of dark-rimmed glasses, puckered with disdain.

Florence had hired McAnally, paying him more than $7,000, to preside as a hearing officer in cases involving two detectives — Jarris Varnrobinson and Walt Hunter — appealing the town's December 14, 2012 decision to fire them.

McAnally, an 80-year-old attorney and judge pro tem, was supposed to act as an impartial finder of fact.

But the derision he directed toward Varnrobinson during this September 24 hearing in Florence's all-but-empty town council chambers illustrated his bias.

McAnally wanted to know why Varnrobinson secretly tape-recorded a prosecutor from the Pinal County Attorney's Office during his reinvestigation of a 2009 case involving the shooting death of 9-year-old Dustin Kemp.

The recording by Varnrobinson was not one of the major reasons given by Florence for the African-American detective's dismissal, but McAnally seemed personally offended by it.

Varnrobinson explained that he did it as part of his note-taking process during the course of a homicide reinvestigation.

In 2011, he and Hunter had been instructed by Robert Ingulli, Florence's police chief from 2000 to 2012, to look into the boy's death.

Veteran prosecutor Greg Hazard stated during a taped conversation that he believed the boy was shot with a .45-caliber Kimber semiautomatic pistol by his father, James Kemp, not by the victim's 21/2-year-old brother, as his father claimed.

Deputy County Attorney Hazard also told Varnrobinson that the case needed more investigation, that he had to yank it from the county grand jury because of unanswered questions.

The taped conclusion by the prosecutor stands in stark contrast to the how the shooting ultimately was resolved.

After New Times requested documents in the case, the County Attorney's Office quietly reopened it. On October 18, more than 41/2 years after the killing, James Kemp pleaded guilty to one count of domestic-violence "endangerment" in a deal with prosecutors and was sentenced to a year of supervised probation.

Though detectives regularly record their conversations, and there was nothing illegal about the act, McAnally regarded it as a violation of a special bond between cop and prosecutor.

"I appreciate all your excuses you've given us," McAnally snapped. "But that's all I have to ask of you."

Varnrobinson's attorney, Neil Landeen, objected to McAnally's characterization of his client's testimony. Landeen then asked the former detective if he had anything else to say before he stepped down.

"Well," said Varnrobinson, "it appears that the hearing officer's already made a conclusion just based on his characterization of me as a witness."

McAnally was not amused.

"I resent your comments," he shot back. "I have not made a decision on this case. You won't see it until I write it and file it with the clerk of the court."

But, in the end, Varnrobinson correctly predicted the outcome. McAnally upheld the town's decision to fire the detective, in part because of the issue over the tape-recording of Hazard.

The former detective is appealing in Pinal County Superior Court.

After the hearings, Ingulli, now chief of the Kearny Police Department, signed a sworn affidavit stating that Varnrobinson's recording was within department policy at the time, which precluded only Florence Police Department officers from recording each other.

Landeen filed Ingulli's affidavit with his final appeal to McAnally. Yet, in defiance of the facts, McAnally insisted that Ingulli's policy forbade the recording of prosecutors by cops. He also backed the town on other points.

As for Hunter, though the town gave the same reasons for firing him as it did for Varnrobinson — issues dealing with computer use, reinvestigation of certain crimes, mishandling of an old case both men already had been disciplined for, and bogus claims dealing with case files — McAnally found this termination to be "without support."

Instead, McAnally suggested that the town punish Hunter using other means, such as reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay, retraining, and a probationary period for the 20-year law enforcement veteran. The town put all these ideas into play.

McAnally often was confused during the sessions and seemed hard of hearing. All the same, his brand of jurisprudence laid bare the festering favoritism, divisions, incompetence, and racism plaguing the Florence Police Department — which led to the banishment of the FPD's only black detective and the demotion of his white partner.

Because they were whistle-blowers and competent cops, Varnrobinson and Hunter endured retaliation, their careers suffering near-fatal blows.

But there are bigger problems with the FPD's dysfunction: Investigations of crimes — including alleged rape, robbery, and murder — have been severely compromised.


Chief Robert Ingulli doesn't mince words describing the two cops he hired in 2003, back when he was running the Florence Police Department.

"They're very good police officers," he tells New Times. "It's totally unjust what's happening. In fact, I think it's a witch hunt."

Indeed, before Ingulli was fired by the town in July 2012 and replaced by former Surprise Police Chief Dan Hughes, Varnrobinson and Hunter were in their prime professionally.

"They worked together very well," Ingulli says. "I can remember very serious cases, and they stood right up and solved them."

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chedda-24
chedda-24

Really, like I can't believe just how crooked the L.A.W. has gotten. Oh and Tom Tom you can't threaten me like you are every one else so don't try it, it won't work. My daddy is part and parcel of your group and I cant stand what you people represent. In  the end it all comes down to Power and Money. You know what, only little men ( if you know what I mean ) have to show that they Big Cojones by breaking the LAW to stay in a position that they didn't deserve in the First place. For Shame people. I sure Hope these guy's decide to do the Right thing a Resign.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

AHHHHH  USSAbyOBAMANATION.  Reinstated is NOT the same as rehired.  If you are reinstated it is ...the termination is rescinded and NEVER happened. According to Websters:  REINSTATE: TO PUT (someone) BACK IN A JOB OR POSITION THAT HAD BEEN TAKEN AWAY. 

If the termination wasRESCINDED then it means:  take back, cancel, void;  to end (a contract, law, agreement, or like in our case a termination) officiallly;  to say offically that (the termination) is no longer valid!!!!!

USSAbyOBAMANATION
USSAbyOBAMANATION

What I find amusing is that this article glosses over some of the facts about Officer Walt Hunter and his current assignment with the Florence Police Department. In your article you state that he was re-hired with a reduction in pay, without the ability to carry his weapon or badge and is currently working in "code enforcement". 


I did a little research and, according to the Arizona Police Officer Standards & Training board (AZPOST), Officer Hunter must undergo the full background, polygraph and medical examinations now that he is back with the department. (http://www.azpost.state.az.us/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.htm -- "What Happens to My Certification If I Quit or Lose My Job?" AND How Long Will My Certification Remain Inactive?") The Florence Police Department has NOTHING to do with this, regardless of whether or not you believe Officer Hunter was correctly or incorrectly terminated in the first place. Now surely, the journalist who wrote this article could have figured this out on his/her own. 


Most likely the reason Officer Hunter was given a reduction in pay is because the department pays Detectives a 5% incentive for holding that position. Considering that: A) Both of the positions are currently filled and; B) Officer Hunter is most likely on probation as a new hire with the department (standard procedure for all new hires AND rehires), he would be ineligible to return to that position anyway. 


Lastly because of my first point, the reexamination of Walt Hunters re-hire packet by AZPOST (over which the Florence Police Department has NO control), Officer Hunter CANNOT carry a wepon or perform any duties as a law enforcement officer, I'm sure that his working in "code enforcement" was seen as something that would best utilize his interpersonal skills that he used as an officer until such time as he can undergo field training in patrol. After all, one would think that he should do SOMETHING to earn the money the Town is paying him, right? 


Again, just some facts that came to me and that I was able to back up with some simple research. Unfortunately, it appears that this type of un-biased research is beyond the abilities of the author(s) of this piece. After all, that doesn't help the cause of "yellow journalism", does it? 

racheljones10050
racheljones10050

People! Please watch the channel 12 investigative report on Police Chief Bob Ingulli leaving the Town of Kearny uncovered. AZPOST: Ingulli lied to the reporter. Check the record.

http://www.azcentral.com/video/#/News/Shipman+fire+triggers+questions+about+public+safety

Walt Hunter sits in the Detective office with Jarris Varnrobinson for 3 years after this investigation closes without saying a word. Chief Robert Ingulli approves the original report. Now suddenly they are all three fired, and everyone is super cop. Bob Ingulli hired Terry Tryon as his Sergeant and then his Lieutenant after testing results led to other applicants. Why did Chief Bob want Terry so bad as his lieutenant? Chief Robert Ingulli promoted officer Klix to Detective. Chief Igulli was the one who changed the promotion rules to allow him to promote officer Scott Morris to Sergeant after only one year at the department. Now Chief Bob Ingulli is running around delivering this article to his "supporters" in Florence. The same "supporters who did not vote for him in the Sheriff's election. Those of you who know, you know.

tpd-rmi
tpd-rmi

The apple never falls far from the tree

king181465
king181465

well look all you fucking pieces of shit why dnt you all say ur real fucking names you scared you kids might get fucked up!! get a better life thn try and get my dad off his seat!! he is on top and once again bringing up dumb shit! you people need to say ur true name and let me deal wit you! this is tomtom his son talk all the shit you want about me I dnt give a fuck but trust me if I do find ur name out youll hear my voice!! bring it on bitches

bgray59
bgray59

I have lived in some of the most notoriously corrupt counties in the United States. 

Pinal County's corruption is by far worse and better organized than even Ouichatia County AR which was rated as the most corrupt County in the US in 1980.

It is a continueing criminal enterprise worthy of a RICO investigation.

Payoffs extend from the Sheriff's Office, County Attorney's Office through the Code enforcement office which is used to harrass political opponents and give special consideration to developers.  At least one Supervisor was forced to resign when he was caught doing favors for an out of state developer. (no prosecution of course).

The practices are so wide spread that the Superviosrs must be involved to allow it to happen.

rhondabradley00
rhondabradley00

Unfortunately, the CA is a Paul Babeu plant. The semi-righteous CA Pinal used to have his gone. It will take the feds coming in to right these wrongs inside the Florence Police Department. If what a commenter says is true, that's coming.   

ledunedu
ledunedu

Sounds like average cops to me dude.


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FRONTERA
FRONTERA

Nice expose Alonzo and Lemons. Lets hope the C.A. for Pinal Co. is not part of this filth , and can do an  honest  INVESTIGATION on this. Waiting for part 2 ....peace

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Florence PD sounds like a certain corrupt and rogue police agency that was found by both the United States Department of Justice as well as an impartial, conservative Republican Judge to racially profile Hispanics.

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

So as a member of the Neal Family do you think that the Rankins would stand up for you? NO THEY WOULDNT. The charactor of Tom Rankin and his families influence in this town ARE in question in this article. Its easy for them to take the credit in this town but never the blame. You are right that people of Florence have turned their heads for along time but its out of fear of retribution from Rankin and his cronies, like Tryon.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

To Todd, you act like you know for a fact that Varn's wife is a meth user.  How do you know unless you smoked with her????  Its just gossip BS.  Gossip is like jealousy.  It grows into some kind of wicked monster!  It actually destroys peoples lives.  You know the Pinal Market sells meth tubes.  And no one is talking about them being meth heads!!  I saw someone ask for a rose ina tube.  hmmm.   Just because they sell pipes doesn't mean they use dope!  Its called business.  Also "Felony" clothing line.  Who gives a rats a-- wha the name is!  Its a business.  He used to have a license plate that said Felony too! Does that make him condone a felon?  No!  Also about Varn's wife changing her name.  WHO CARES

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

Accountability is the problem.  no one who is the wrong doer in the PD is ever held accountable. If they don't like you and you are not a butt sniffer then they will find a reason to get rid of you, and anyone you call as a witness who is employed there will "not be able to recall the events".   It will take a GIANT $$$ lawsuit to the town before they wake up and see that the police dept has been corrupt for years.  How Tryon and Rankin became allies is crazy, Terry used to verbalize his dislike of him years ago.   I guess if you can't beat them join them.  As far at MESSNWITHLIVES little rant goes...who are you to make such allegations against Rankins daughter?  Were you in the bed?  For real.  Even if what you said is true this has no bearing on her father, or this storey!!  and just for the record...Rankin does not own Florence!  We do!!  We people are to blame, we work long hours and take the road of least resistence.  We the town of Florence have turned our head to the BS for a long time.  It is no secret the PD has been prejudice for decades.  But times should be a changing!!!

FlorenceCitizen
FlorenceCitizen

@ToddDalton Did you know that @InjusticeForAll is Varnrobinson?

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

Have you heard about Rankins kids? His daughter is sleeping with her boss.  His son "Tom Tom" is a punk criminal and addict who beats women.  Rankin "owns" Florence and the FPD.  Wake up Tom Rankin.  You are a small town hick and criminal!

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

Have you heard about Rankins kids? His daughter is sleeping with her boss and cheated on her husband. His son "Tom Tom" is a punk criminal and addict who beats women.  Rankin "owns" Florence and the FPD.  Wake up Tom Rankin!!.  You are a small town hick and criminal! People from Florence really believe they are special.   You are nobody's.  Quit screwing with peoples lives. What makes you think you have the right to treat people the way you do? 

ToddDalton
ToddDalton

WOW williewill troll much. Go and attack me personally because you can't debate the facts. 


InjusticeForAll. Not one thing I wrote is not factual that is why you did not address them.

Does Varn's wife own a tattoo parlor that sells paraphernalia? yes. 

Did she legally change her name to VarnZombie(look at her drivers license) so it did not affect his POST certification.  Yes

Does Varnrobinson own "felony" clothing line. yes

Did Varnrobinson call Florence police instead of the local police(he doesn't live in the town of Florence) when his wife was in a domestic fight with her brothers. YES

If local police have been to his house over a half dozen times why as a highly trained police officer did he not call them to report the incident and delay response?  to give her time to get rid of the meth. 

InjusticeForAll just Read the police report

There a lot of good people for the newtimes to defend. this is not one of them. 

raymorreau
raymorreau

This story is 21st Century western gothic. On the edge of my seat for the next installment.

williewill
williewill

They fucked with the wrong guys when they went after Varnrobinson and Hunter! Mayor Crackertard and his KKKGB will be lucky to hang on to their jobs. In at least one case, maybe even their freedom. One hears that an investigation by the big boys is under consideration because of this article. I hope this is true.

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

Let the Phoenix New Times know the facts and how you feel about this corruption by posting to this comment thread.  Then go to the organizational and rally page http://www.facebook.com/InjusticeToAll.  and http://twitter.com/InjusticeToAll

Contact the US Department of Justice as well as the NAACP and demand an investigation into the corruption, racism and cover-ups by the police administrators and town officials! It runs deeper then the news of this single article. So tell them what you truly know about the happenings in Florence but were afraid to state before because you feared retaliation by the town officials!

Stay tuned because the Phoenix New Times has more information and exposure to come!  You will see the Town's corrupt officials point fingers, lie and then hide under the rocks from which they came! It happens the same way every time!

ledunedu
ledunedu

lol, sounds like your average everyday cop to me lol.


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ToddDalton
ToddDalton

Varnrobinson is as corrupt as they come. Just Ask  His Meth head wife(who changed her last name to "varnZombie" no joke. The police had to come to a domestic at his house where she was high on Meth and fighting her brothers. Varnrobinson owns a tattoo parlor that he sells Bongs and other Paraphernalia out of. his clothing line is called "Felony".  

Sorry Newtimes but It is well known in the town of Florence that "Varn" has dirt on Chief Bob, that is why he covered for him all these years.  Just ask him about the time he broke into a house and took "evidence" without a warrant(or legal reason). the town of Florence had to pay those people plenty. 

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@USSAbyOBAMANATION and the two crack pots they have in detectives now are worthless.  Lusk or Gaston now since she married, was beaten by her husbad who works for chandler police and she would not report it.  Exactly the kind of hinesty an officer should have right.  She was sleeping with a fireman adn her current husbad and let the fireman get arrested when he found her and him sleeping on the couch together. She attacked the fireman but let him take the rap.  

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@USSAbyOBAMANATION your simple research is complete garbage.  The judge determined that Hunter was wrongfully termintated.  This means he shoudl have never been fired.  Upon reinstatement he should have been put back exactly where he was when he left.  he is not a new hire as you so kindly called him, therefor he is not required to go through that process.  You need to get your shit together, I would not doubt if this was Hughes or had a connection to him.  Hes a racist piece of shit

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@USSAbyOBAMANATION  With all this knowledge of the situation we can safely assume this post came from disgraced Chief Dan Hughes himself or his wife, or maybe your just a close friend or coworker of theirs. 


Well sir or madame respectfully, I think you are missing the point of the article. The other matter is that the Town of Florence technically did not consider Walt Hunter terminated after he was reinstated.  According to my research, it is very uncommon to put an officer through all of the background, polygraph, etc, when they are reinstated, because technically they never left employment, especially if the town imposes sanctions after reinstatement for the time the officer was away from his post.  What I have read is that the Town of Florence, stated that Hunter was on administrative leave and suspension.  The only thing required by AZPOST is that the department notify them that the officer is reinstated with a simple form of explanation, which takes a couple of days for AZPOST to process.  You may want to call AZPOST like I did, and thoroughly confirm your information, because this is considered an unusual situation to AZPOST.  


I am sure neither Detective Varnrobinson or Hunter asked for Hughes (you) to retaliate against them for turning in Lieutenant Terry Tryon for committing several felonies which are being totally ignored, but justice will prevail. They also didn't ask for Hughes (you) to engage in racism, bigotry and to perform an extremely biased substandard 'investigation' violating their rights to due process under ARS 38-1101,  which led to their terminations by a puppet of a town manager 'Himanshu Patel', who was by the way recently terminated by Pinal County most likely do to his involvement in this scandal.  

Whatever process they are going through or any hardship they have suffered is a direct result of the unethical actions Hughes (you) took against them. Hughes (you) and others will ultimately be held responsible for their actions! A storm, a hurricane is brewing and will hit those corrupt and unethical politicians, town officials, and police administrators with a vengeance.  

Florence is where I grew up and I as well as many others, are tired of the continued 'Good Ol' Boy' politics and nepotism to the point of corruption and injustice within our community and justice system. Unbiased investigations by a police administration and town officials is well beyond their abilities. After all, that wouldn't the cause of  those whom are "corrupt and racist", does it?  

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@racheljones10050 Ms. Jones or Mrs. Tryon; whatever your real name maybe,  you have made several factual errors in your statement. I guess who you actually are doesn't really matter, but don't rely on rumors, know the areas you are speaking about! 

1st: The fire incident you speak of did not occur within the town limits of Kearny,  this occurred within Pinal County Sheriff's Office jurisdiction (please review jurisdictional boundary maps). Kearny Police Department had an officer that was actually the first responder on scene, and provided the responding Deputies with the equipment they needed to secure the area. The Town of Florence even has area that is classified by zip code as Florence, but is within the jurisdiction of the Pinal County Sheriff.  (Again please review jurisdictional boundary maps, as I have done!)

2nd: Detective Varnrobinson wasn't in the Detectives unit when the desert rape occurred. If I remember correctly he wasn't a Detective until April 2008. 

3rd: Based on court documents, hearing documents and town documents, Detective Hunter made his initial complaint on Tryon as soon as he found out about the evidence being given away. This complaint and the next were ignored by then Town Manager Himanshu Patel, whom was recently fired by Pinal County,  just as he ignored complaints against Tryon which was made by another detective, a couple sergeants and several members of the patrol staff. 

4th: Tryon reviewed and signed off on the report of the desert rape not Ingulli. Wouldn't you say that was a conflict of interest, being Tryon was related to and personal friends with several persons involved with and associated to this travesty? 

5th: Tryon was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant at the insistence of Patel. Due to numerous  written reprimands which showed Tryon to be incompetent in the position, Ingulli  attempted to demote him but once again he was protected by Patel. Tryon graduating with just a GED and no formal college education does not meet the standard qualifications, upheld by most every police agency in Arizona, necessary to hold the position of Lieutenant, even after completing a 'simple' ten week command school, which is not equal to any degree given by an accredited university.  All of this verifiable, so please take the time to verify, as I have done and the New Times. 

By the way Klix was promoted to Detective by Terry Tryon and Lt. Clint Lee, whom was the acting Chief of Police at that time, but I am sure you can verify this its public record. According to county records, Chief Ingulli was running for Sheriff. 

What is notable is that you never deny that Tryon gave away evidence which constitutes felonies on his part. In summary, you can attempt to convolute the issue by talking about a fire, or when a formal complaint was made or when Sgt. Morris was promoted; none of it diminishes the fact Lt. Tryon committed several felonies and Det. Klix botched several serious investigations all which were ignored by the former and current administration of the Town of Florence. 

If you have any other statements or questions, please don't hesitate to visit my personal facebook page SeekJusticeArizona, or even visit my just cause page under InjusticeToAll. I care about my Town of Florence, which is 'Our' Town of Florence, and allegations of the nature presented by any media source should be taken seriously and investigated, without the interference of the Florence 'Good Ol' Boys'! 
-I, Seek Justice

steveosmondsum
steveosmondsum

@king181465 Tom Tom you aint nothing but a little punk bitch.  You aint going to do shit.  I'm sure you were loved by many during your stay in prison.

mooncricket2001
mooncricket2001

@rhondabradley00 Paul Babeu is the first person in Pinal County that needs to go.  He definitely paid Jose a lot of hush money.  Haven't heard a word from Jose since the article hit.  

FRONTERA
FRONTERA

@rhondabradley00 Keen observation. Will take feds to clean this crap-hole up. (And I thought Colorado City AZ. was bad, with Jef  Flake up there prayin to  PROFIT Warren JEFFS).....

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@FlorenceCitizen I am InjusticeForAll, I am a woman, and not associated with the Florence Police Department or the Detective Varnrobinson.  If you have any other statements or questions, please don't hesitate to visit my personal facebook page SeekJusticeArizona, or even visit my just cause page under InjusticeToAll.  I am just stating and reposting the facts of these cases which are of course researchable and available to  the public.  All you have to do is take it serious, and get the documents and you will know what I know.  The Phoenix New Times took the time to investigate this matter, and report the facts they discovered!  You should do the same and never assume, as you have already done!

mooncricket2001
mooncricket2001

@Messnwithlives You're giving Tom too much credit, Tom doesn't even own a car nonetheless Florence.  Florence used to be a quiet small Hispanic town, now its over ran by white trash people who moved there because they work at one of the many prisons in town.  It's a shame that Tom and Terry have brought this negative press to Florence.  I would quickly recall Tom and if the town council were smart they would call an outside agency to conduct a thorough investigation on Mr. Tryon.  He definitely needs to be fired.  

dogbiter
dogbiter

Even if this is true, it doesn't alter the facts of the current story, dumb ass!

dogbiter
dogbiter

Even if this is true, which I seriously doubt ("get rid of the meth." please! prove it), it doesn't alter the hard, cold facts of the current story, dumb ass! also, where you're coming from is obvious, as williewill and others note.

williewill
williewill

Dalton, everybody knows you are full of shit. Always have been. We know who you are...

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@ToddDalton You must be a relative or close friend of that 'known and verified' crooked cop Lt. Terry Tryon or maybe that racist Chief of Police Dan Hughes. Oh wait, maybe your connected to the corrupt and prejudice Mayor Tom Rankin!  Well it doesn't matter because your unreliable statement was just as ignorant as those people I mentioned! LOL

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@ToddDalton LOL....Really, that was the funniest story you could have told.!Wow... the funny thing is that what you are saying sounds like you really "don't know" what your talking about on many levels!  So keep trying, because the facts are already there posted in this story and if you knew anything about anything, you would know that Investigative Reporters do their homework before they post stories, especially those of corruption by government officials and police administrators!

king181465
king181465

is this jr or sr cuz hell I shit I both you worthless fucks for one jr you been a dick sucker for awhile now and take it in the ass you lil bitch!! and sr ur a piece of shit just like the rest of you and ur lil world look wats gonna come about either ur son cock suckers gonna get split or you can take one for ur boy!! anytime bring it!!!

bgray59
bgray59

The feds have refused to get involved.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 @nealscrazycasa1  Really.  Just so you know he encountered racisim the first day on the job.  you should grow up mooncricket2001.  No one is asking for your pity.  It is the fact that this type of behavior from our police department reflects badly on Florence and also the fact that our police department has been racial feed for too long and the citizens are sick of it.  you sound like you grabbed the stick out of his ass and are now stirring the pot with it.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 White trash.  You opinions are steeped in racism and ingnorance.  At times you seem to have some intelligence and then you roll out the BS race card!  Just stop already.  Racism is FEAR!  Conquer the fear and find out irregardless of skin tone, people are the same on the inside...want to love and be loved, be able to take care of their children, to instill values, character, and morals in them by the way they live their own lives.  Why does the color of a mans skin say anything?!  It is by the quality of his character and how they live their life that people should be judged by. 

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@king181465 is violence really anyway to solve anything.  if what everyone is saying is not true why not just ignore it and let it go by the way side, rather than stir up any more trouble.  I for one know the Rankins and they are not all bad.  Everyone makes mistakes.  However I do agree with tom tom about the osmondsums.  Tom Tom, just let go of it man, things will blow over if everything is incorrect.  If it is all true than just weather the storm.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 Its a free world where people can have their own beliefs.  As an adult your beliefs should be based on fact or spiritual conviction.  i am not one to stop you.  RUN WITH IT!!

 
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