This resulted in a letter of reprimand to Tryon from former Town Manager Himanshu Patel that admonished the lieutenant for a "derogatory comment" made about Hunter on the FPD's public-safety database, where it could be viewed by other officers.

Patel instructed Tryon that "sarcasm can be destructive" and noted that Tryon had engaged in "compromised communications" with Ingulli and others.

As for the AR-15, Patel informed Tryon: "Allegations of you releasing evidence of a home [invasion] outside of your authority have been substantiated by documentation."

The return of the cell phones in the rape case, however, went unmentioned.

Unaware of Patel's reprimand of Tryon and fed up with Tryon's actions, Jarris Varnrobinson wrote a scathing memo to Chief Ingulli, Patel, and the town's human resources director in January 2012.

He documented bad behavior by Tryon, saying he had witnessed the lieutenant "openly argue" with Ingulli and had observed him "create a divide amongst the officers by establishing loyalty to him and not to the town or the Chief of Police."

Varnrobinson said he feared retaliation by Tryon, observing how Tryon had been able to avoid demotion to sergeant. He wrote that supervisors were telling him that Tryon was attempting to get him fired.

But Varnrobinson's recounting of Tryon's return of evidence was the most serious allegation.

"Just so you understand," Varnrobinson wrote in his memo, "hampering an investigation and tampering with evidence is a felony."

(Note: The city of Florence refused repeated requests by New Times for formal interviews with Tryon, Hughes, and other members of the police department. Patel, now Pinal County's interim assistant manager, didn't respond to New Times' calls for comment.)

The FPD could not investigate Varnrobinson's complaint because of the obvious conflict. So the town asked the Department of Public Safety to handle the probe. This resulted in DPS Officer Ron Baroldy's investigation of Tryon for allegedly tampering with evidence, a class-six felony.

Regarding the AR-15, Tryon admitted to Baroldy that he knew the man who owned it and ordered the rifle to be returned to him. He disagreed that Varnrobinson had the right to retain the rifle, but he claimed he was not aware that Varnrobinson had placed an evidence hold on the gun. Had he known, he said, he would not have given it back.

As for the case involving the football team, Tryon continued to maintain that a county prosecutor told him the cell phones could be returned to their owners.

The facts that his son and his son's friends were involved and that Tryon's brother-in-law was the high school's principal at the time were not discussed in the DPS report.

Baroldy sent his investigation, mostly a he said/he said recounting of the allegations, to the County Attorney's Office, which declined to charge Tryon in September 2012 because of "no reasonable likelihood of conviction."

Rankin was re-elected mayor in May 2012. In mid-July last year, Town Manager Patel terminated Chief Ingulli.

Asked why Ingulli was fired, assistant town manager Jess Knudson points to the recommendations of a report on the town's police operations performed by the International City/Council Management Association.

The report dealt with everything from the department's response to false alarms to its shift schedule and manpower. Interestingly, it also criticized Florence's current system of relying on town officials for police discipline, noting that it "undermines the department's over all chain of command."

Ingulli tells New Times that he had sought the independent audit for a long time, cooperated with it, and welcomed its recommendations.

Knudson suggests that Ingulli did not implement the ICMA's suggestions fast enough for Town Manager Patel.

As interim police chief, the town hired Daniel Hughes, an unlikely candidate since he was the disgraced former chief of the Surprise Police Department.

In 2010, Hughes was forced to resign as Surprise chief after a vote of no-confidence by 78 percent of the agency's officers. Allegations against him ranged from making improper comments about Hispanics to abusing the disciplinary process to trying to fix a traffic citation for a city councilman.

Hughes' time as an assistant chief at the Springfield (Illinois) Police Department perhaps had been more contentious.

According to reports in the Illinois Times, an alternative weekly in Springfield, and the daily Springfield State Journal-Register, Hughes was accused of filing a misleading internal affairs complaint against Renatta Frazier, an African-American policewoman, suggesting that she failed to prevent the rape of a colleague's daughter by two black men.

Hughes' complaint became a major scandal, and he left Springfield in 2002 after landing the job in Surprise.

Frazier sued Springfield, and the city settled the case for $829,000.

Though Hughes was hired by Florence's town manager, Mayor Rankin says he approved of the choice.

"I liked what I saw," Rankin says, adding, "I'm not worried about his history. I have a history."

Hughes had a simple excuse for his checkered past when the subject came up during a brief encounter with New Times at Florence's Town Hall:

"Sometimes bad things happen to good people."

Not long after Hughes took over, he made bad things happen to Hunter and Varnrobinson.

Hunter was fond of referring to himself and Varnrobinson as "biracial Siamese twins," but after Hughes became chief, their supervisors — including Tryon — informed them that they could not work cases together anymore. They even were ordered not to ride together in FPD vehicles.

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chedda-24
chedda-24

Really, like I can't believe just how crooked the L.A.W. has gotten. Oh and Tom Tom you can't threaten me like you are every one else so don't try it, it won't work. My daddy is part and parcel of your group and I cant stand what you people represent. In  the end it all comes down to Power and Money. You know what, only little men ( if you know what I mean ) have to show that they Big Cojones by breaking the LAW to stay in a position that they didn't deserve in the First place. For Shame people. I sure Hope these guy's decide to do the Right thing a Resign.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

AHHHHH  USSAbyOBAMANATION.  Reinstated is NOT the same as rehired.  If you are reinstated it is ...the termination is rescinded and NEVER happened. According to Websters:  REINSTATE: TO PUT (someone) BACK IN A JOB OR POSITION THAT HAD BEEN TAKEN AWAY. 

If the termination wasRESCINDED then it means:  take back, cancel, void;  to end (a contract, law, agreement, or like in our case a termination) officiallly;  to say offically that (the termination) is no longer valid!!!!!

USSAbyOBAMANATION
USSAbyOBAMANATION

What I find amusing is that this article glosses over some of the facts about Officer Walt Hunter and his current assignment with the Florence Police Department. In your article you state that he was re-hired with a reduction in pay, without the ability to carry his weapon or badge and is currently working in "code enforcement". 


I did a little research and, according to the Arizona Police Officer Standards & Training board (AZPOST), Officer Hunter must undergo the full background, polygraph and medical examinations now that he is back with the department. (http://www.azpost.state.az.us/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.htm -- "What Happens to My Certification If I Quit or Lose My Job?" AND How Long Will My Certification Remain Inactive?") The Florence Police Department has NOTHING to do with this, regardless of whether or not you believe Officer Hunter was correctly or incorrectly terminated in the first place. Now surely, the journalist who wrote this article could have figured this out on his/her own. 


Most likely the reason Officer Hunter was given a reduction in pay is because the department pays Detectives a 5% incentive for holding that position. Considering that: A) Both of the positions are currently filled and; B) Officer Hunter is most likely on probation as a new hire with the department (standard procedure for all new hires AND rehires), he would be ineligible to return to that position anyway. 


Lastly because of my first point, the reexamination of Walt Hunters re-hire packet by AZPOST (over which the Florence Police Department has NO control), Officer Hunter CANNOT carry a wepon or perform any duties as a law enforcement officer, I'm sure that his working in "code enforcement" was seen as something that would best utilize his interpersonal skills that he used as an officer until such time as he can undergo field training in patrol. After all, one would think that he should do SOMETHING to earn the money the Town is paying him, right? 


Again, just some facts that came to me and that I was able to back up with some simple research. Unfortunately, it appears that this type of un-biased research is beyond the abilities of the author(s) of this piece. After all, that doesn't help the cause of "yellow journalism", does it? 

racheljones10050
racheljones10050

People! Please watch the channel 12 investigative report on Police Chief Bob Ingulli leaving the Town of Kearny uncovered. AZPOST: Ingulli lied to the reporter. Check the record.

http://www.azcentral.com/video/#/News/Shipman+fire+triggers+questions+about+public+safety

Walt Hunter sits in the Detective office with Jarris Varnrobinson for 3 years after this investigation closes without saying a word. Chief Robert Ingulli approves the original report. Now suddenly they are all three fired, and everyone is super cop. Bob Ingulli hired Terry Tryon as his Sergeant and then his Lieutenant after testing results led to other applicants. Why did Chief Bob want Terry so bad as his lieutenant? Chief Robert Ingulli promoted officer Klix to Detective. Chief Igulli was the one who changed the promotion rules to allow him to promote officer Scott Morris to Sergeant after only one year at the department. Now Chief Bob Ingulli is running around delivering this article to his "supporters" in Florence. The same "supporters who did not vote for him in the Sheriff's election. Those of you who know, you know.

tpd-rmi
tpd-rmi

The apple never falls far from the tree

king181465
king181465

well look all you fucking pieces of shit why dnt you all say ur real fucking names you scared you kids might get fucked up!! get a better life thn try and get my dad off his seat!! he is on top and once again bringing up dumb shit! you people need to say ur true name and let me deal wit you! this is tomtom his son talk all the shit you want about me I dnt give a fuck but trust me if I do find ur name out youll hear my voice!! bring it on bitches

bgray59
bgray59

I have lived in some of the most notoriously corrupt counties in the United States. 

Pinal County's corruption is by far worse and better organized than even Ouichatia County AR which was rated as the most corrupt County in the US in 1980.

It is a continueing criminal enterprise worthy of a RICO investigation.

Payoffs extend from the Sheriff's Office, County Attorney's Office through the Code enforcement office which is used to harrass political opponents and give special consideration to developers.  At least one Supervisor was forced to resign when he was caught doing favors for an out of state developer. (no prosecution of course).

The practices are so wide spread that the Superviosrs must be involved to allow it to happen.

rhondabradley00
rhondabradley00

Unfortunately, the CA is a Paul Babeu plant. The semi-righteous CA Pinal used to have his gone. It will take the feds coming in to right these wrongs inside the Florence Police Department. If what a commenter says is true, that's coming.   

ledunedu
ledunedu

Sounds like average cops to me dude.


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FRONTERA
FRONTERA

Nice expose Alonzo and Lemons. Lets hope the C.A. for Pinal Co. is not part of this filth , and can do an  honest  INVESTIGATION on this. Waiting for part 2 ....peace

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Florence PD sounds like a certain corrupt and rogue police agency that was found by both the United States Department of Justice as well as an impartial, conservative Republican Judge to racially profile Hispanics.

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

So as a member of the Neal Family do you think that the Rankins would stand up for you? NO THEY WOULDNT. The charactor of Tom Rankin and his families influence in this town ARE in question in this article. Its easy for them to take the credit in this town but never the blame. You are right that people of Florence have turned their heads for along time but its out of fear of retribution from Rankin and his cronies, like Tryon.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

To Todd, you act like you know for a fact that Varn's wife is a meth user.  How do you know unless you smoked with her????  Its just gossip BS.  Gossip is like jealousy.  It grows into some kind of wicked monster!  It actually destroys peoples lives.  You know the Pinal Market sells meth tubes.  And no one is talking about them being meth heads!!  I saw someone ask for a rose ina tube.  hmmm.   Just because they sell pipes doesn't mean they use dope!  Its called business.  Also "Felony" clothing line.  Who gives a rats a-- wha the name is!  Its a business.  He used to have a license plate that said Felony too! Does that make him condone a felon?  No!  Also about Varn's wife changing her name.  WHO CARES

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

Accountability is the problem.  no one who is the wrong doer in the PD is ever held accountable. If they don't like you and you are not a butt sniffer then they will find a reason to get rid of you, and anyone you call as a witness who is employed there will "not be able to recall the events".   It will take a GIANT $$$ lawsuit to the town before they wake up and see that the police dept has been corrupt for years.  How Tryon and Rankin became allies is crazy, Terry used to verbalize his dislike of him years ago.   I guess if you can't beat them join them.  As far at MESSNWITHLIVES little rant goes...who are you to make such allegations against Rankins daughter?  Were you in the bed?  For real.  Even if what you said is true this has no bearing on her father, or this storey!!  and just for the record...Rankin does not own Florence!  We do!!  We people are to blame, we work long hours and take the road of least resistence.  We the town of Florence have turned our head to the BS for a long time.  It is no secret the PD has been prejudice for decades.  But times should be a changing!!!

FlorenceCitizen
FlorenceCitizen

@ToddDalton Did you know that @InjusticeForAll is Varnrobinson?

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

Have you heard about Rankins kids? His daughter is sleeping with her boss.  His son "Tom Tom" is a punk criminal and addict who beats women.  Rankin "owns" Florence and the FPD.  Wake up Tom Rankin.  You are a small town hick and criminal!

Messnwithlives
Messnwithlives

Have you heard about Rankins kids? His daughter is sleeping with her boss and cheated on her husband. His son "Tom Tom" is a punk criminal and addict who beats women.  Rankin "owns" Florence and the FPD.  Wake up Tom Rankin!!.  You are a small town hick and criminal! People from Florence really believe they are special.   You are nobody's.  Quit screwing with peoples lives. What makes you think you have the right to treat people the way you do? 

ToddDalton
ToddDalton

WOW williewill troll much. Go and attack me personally because you can't debate the facts. 


InjusticeForAll. Not one thing I wrote is not factual that is why you did not address them.

Does Varn's wife own a tattoo parlor that sells paraphernalia? yes. 

Did she legally change her name to VarnZombie(look at her drivers license) so it did not affect his POST certification.  Yes

Does Varnrobinson own "felony" clothing line. yes

Did Varnrobinson call Florence police instead of the local police(he doesn't live in the town of Florence) when his wife was in a domestic fight with her brothers. YES

If local police have been to his house over a half dozen times why as a highly trained police officer did he not call them to report the incident and delay response?  to give her time to get rid of the meth. 

InjusticeForAll just Read the police report

There a lot of good people for the newtimes to defend. this is not one of them. 

raymorreau
raymorreau

This story is 21st Century western gothic. On the edge of my seat for the next installment.

williewill
williewill

They fucked with the wrong guys when they went after Varnrobinson and Hunter! Mayor Crackertard and his KKKGB will be lucky to hang on to their jobs. In at least one case, maybe even their freedom. One hears that an investigation by the big boys is under consideration because of this article. I hope this is true.

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

Let the Phoenix New Times know the facts and how you feel about this corruption by posting to this comment thread.  Then go to the organizational and rally page http://www.facebook.com/InjusticeToAll.  and http://twitter.com/InjusticeToAll

Contact the US Department of Justice as well as the NAACP and demand an investigation into the corruption, racism and cover-ups by the police administrators and town officials! It runs deeper then the news of this single article. So tell them what you truly know about the happenings in Florence but were afraid to state before because you feared retaliation by the town officials!

Stay tuned because the Phoenix New Times has more information and exposure to come!  You will see the Town's corrupt officials point fingers, lie and then hide under the rocks from which they came! It happens the same way every time!

ledunedu
ledunedu

lol, sounds like your average everyday cop to me lol.


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ToddDalton
ToddDalton

Varnrobinson is as corrupt as they come. Just Ask  His Meth head wife(who changed her last name to "varnZombie" no joke. The police had to come to a domestic at his house where she was high on Meth and fighting her brothers. Varnrobinson owns a tattoo parlor that he sells Bongs and other Paraphernalia out of. his clothing line is called "Felony".  

Sorry Newtimes but It is well known in the town of Florence that "Varn" has dirt on Chief Bob, that is why he covered for him all these years.  Just ask him about the time he broke into a house and took "evidence" without a warrant(or legal reason). the town of Florence had to pay those people plenty. 

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@USSAbyOBAMANATION and the two crack pots they have in detectives now are worthless.  Lusk or Gaston now since she married, was beaten by her husbad who works for chandler police and she would not report it.  Exactly the kind of hinesty an officer should have right.  She was sleeping with a fireman adn her current husbad and let the fireman get arrested when he found her and him sleeping on the couch together. She attacked the fireman but let him take the rap.  

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@USSAbyOBAMANATION your simple research is complete garbage.  The judge determined that Hunter was wrongfully termintated.  This means he shoudl have never been fired.  Upon reinstatement he should have been put back exactly where he was when he left.  he is not a new hire as you so kindly called him, therefor he is not required to go through that process.  You need to get your shit together, I would not doubt if this was Hughes or had a connection to him.  Hes a racist piece of shit

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@USSAbyOBAMANATION  With all this knowledge of the situation we can safely assume this post came from disgraced Chief Dan Hughes himself or his wife, or maybe your just a close friend or coworker of theirs. 


Well sir or madame respectfully, I think you are missing the point of the article. The other matter is that the Town of Florence technically did not consider Walt Hunter terminated after he was reinstated.  According to my research, it is very uncommon to put an officer through all of the background, polygraph, etc, when they are reinstated, because technically they never left employment, especially if the town imposes sanctions after reinstatement for the time the officer was away from his post.  What I have read is that the Town of Florence, stated that Hunter was on administrative leave and suspension.  The only thing required by AZPOST is that the department notify them that the officer is reinstated with a simple form of explanation, which takes a couple of days for AZPOST to process.  You may want to call AZPOST like I did, and thoroughly confirm your information, because this is considered an unusual situation to AZPOST.  


I am sure neither Detective Varnrobinson or Hunter asked for Hughes (you) to retaliate against them for turning in Lieutenant Terry Tryon for committing several felonies which are being totally ignored, but justice will prevail. They also didn't ask for Hughes (you) to engage in racism, bigotry and to perform an extremely biased substandard 'investigation' violating their rights to due process under ARS 38-1101,  which led to their terminations by a puppet of a town manager 'Himanshu Patel', who was by the way recently terminated by Pinal County most likely do to his involvement in this scandal.  

Whatever process they are going through or any hardship they have suffered is a direct result of the unethical actions Hughes (you) took against them. Hughes (you) and others will ultimately be held responsible for their actions! A storm, a hurricane is brewing and will hit those corrupt and unethical politicians, town officials, and police administrators with a vengeance.  

Florence is where I grew up and I as well as many others, are tired of the continued 'Good Ol' Boy' politics and nepotism to the point of corruption and injustice within our community and justice system. Unbiased investigations by a police administration and town officials is well beyond their abilities. After all, that wouldn't the cause of  those whom are "corrupt and racist", does it?  

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@racheljones10050 Ms. Jones or Mrs. Tryon; whatever your real name maybe,  you have made several factual errors in your statement. I guess who you actually are doesn't really matter, but don't rely on rumors, know the areas you are speaking about! 

1st: The fire incident you speak of did not occur within the town limits of Kearny,  this occurred within Pinal County Sheriff's Office jurisdiction (please review jurisdictional boundary maps). Kearny Police Department had an officer that was actually the first responder on scene, and provided the responding Deputies with the equipment they needed to secure the area. The Town of Florence even has area that is classified by zip code as Florence, but is within the jurisdiction of the Pinal County Sheriff.  (Again please review jurisdictional boundary maps, as I have done!)

2nd: Detective Varnrobinson wasn't in the Detectives unit when the desert rape occurred. If I remember correctly he wasn't a Detective until April 2008. 

3rd: Based on court documents, hearing documents and town documents, Detective Hunter made his initial complaint on Tryon as soon as he found out about the evidence being given away. This complaint and the next were ignored by then Town Manager Himanshu Patel, whom was recently fired by Pinal County,  just as he ignored complaints against Tryon which was made by another detective, a couple sergeants and several members of the patrol staff. 

4th: Tryon reviewed and signed off on the report of the desert rape not Ingulli. Wouldn't you say that was a conflict of interest, being Tryon was related to and personal friends with several persons involved with and associated to this travesty? 

5th: Tryon was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant at the insistence of Patel. Due to numerous  written reprimands which showed Tryon to be incompetent in the position, Ingulli  attempted to demote him but once again he was protected by Patel. Tryon graduating with just a GED and no formal college education does not meet the standard qualifications, upheld by most every police agency in Arizona, necessary to hold the position of Lieutenant, even after completing a 'simple' ten week command school, which is not equal to any degree given by an accredited university.  All of this verifiable, so please take the time to verify, as I have done and the New Times. 

By the way Klix was promoted to Detective by Terry Tryon and Lt. Clint Lee, whom was the acting Chief of Police at that time, but I am sure you can verify this its public record. According to county records, Chief Ingulli was running for Sheriff. 

What is notable is that you never deny that Tryon gave away evidence which constitutes felonies on his part. In summary, you can attempt to convolute the issue by talking about a fire, or when a formal complaint was made or when Sgt. Morris was promoted; none of it diminishes the fact Lt. Tryon committed several felonies and Det. Klix botched several serious investigations all which were ignored by the former and current administration of the Town of Florence. 

If you have any other statements or questions, please don't hesitate to visit my personal facebook page SeekJusticeArizona, or even visit my just cause page under InjusticeToAll. I care about my Town of Florence, which is 'Our' Town of Florence, and allegations of the nature presented by any media source should be taken seriously and investigated, without the interference of the Florence 'Good Ol' Boys'! 
-I, Seek Justice

steveosmondsum
steveosmondsum

@king181465 Tom Tom you aint nothing but a little punk bitch.  You aint going to do shit.  I'm sure you were loved by many during your stay in prison.

mooncricket2001
mooncricket2001

@rhondabradley00 Paul Babeu is the first person in Pinal County that needs to go.  He definitely paid Jose a lot of hush money.  Haven't heard a word from Jose since the article hit.  

FRONTERA
FRONTERA

@rhondabradley00 Keen observation. Will take feds to clean this crap-hole up. (And I thought Colorado City AZ. was bad, with Jef  Flake up there prayin to  PROFIT Warren JEFFS).....

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@FlorenceCitizen I am InjusticeForAll, I am a woman, and not associated with the Florence Police Department or the Detective Varnrobinson.  If you have any other statements or questions, please don't hesitate to visit my personal facebook page SeekJusticeArizona, or even visit my just cause page under InjusticeToAll.  I am just stating and reposting the facts of these cases which are of course researchable and available to  the public.  All you have to do is take it serious, and get the documents and you will know what I know.  The Phoenix New Times took the time to investigate this matter, and report the facts they discovered!  You should do the same and never assume, as you have already done!

mooncricket2001
mooncricket2001

@Messnwithlives You're giving Tom too much credit, Tom doesn't even own a car nonetheless Florence.  Florence used to be a quiet small Hispanic town, now its over ran by white trash people who moved there because they work at one of the many prisons in town.  It's a shame that Tom and Terry have brought this negative press to Florence.  I would quickly recall Tom and if the town council were smart they would call an outside agency to conduct a thorough investigation on Mr. Tryon.  He definitely needs to be fired.  

dogbiter
dogbiter

Even if this is true, it doesn't alter the facts of the current story, dumb ass!

dogbiter
dogbiter

Even if this is true, which I seriously doubt ("get rid of the meth." please! prove it), it doesn't alter the hard, cold facts of the current story, dumb ass! also, where you're coming from is obvious, as williewill and others note.

williewill
williewill

Dalton, everybody knows you are full of shit. Always have been. We know who you are...

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@ToddDalton You must be a relative or close friend of that 'known and verified' crooked cop Lt. Terry Tryon or maybe that racist Chief of Police Dan Hughes. Oh wait, maybe your connected to the corrupt and prejudice Mayor Tom Rankin!  Well it doesn't matter because your unreliable statement was just as ignorant as those people I mentioned! LOL

InjusticeForAll
InjusticeForAll

@ToddDalton LOL....Really, that was the funniest story you could have told.!Wow... the funny thing is that what you are saying sounds like you really "don't know" what your talking about on many levels!  So keep trying, because the facts are already there posted in this story and if you knew anything about anything, you would know that Investigative Reporters do their homework before they post stories, especially those of corruption by government officials and police administrators!

king181465
king181465

is this jr or sr cuz hell I shit I both you worthless fucks for one jr you been a dick sucker for awhile now and take it in the ass you lil bitch!! and sr ur a piece of shit just like the rest of you and ur lil world look wats gonna come about either ur son cock suckers gonna get split or you can take one for ur boy!! anytime bring it!!!

bgray59
bgray59

The feds have refused to get involved.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 @nealscrazycasa1  Really.  Just so you know he encountered racisim the first day on the job.  you should grow up mooncricket2001.  No one is asking for your pity.  It is the fact that this type of behavior from our police department reflects badly on Florence and also the fact that our police department has been racial feed for too long and the citizens are sick of it.  you sound like you grabbed the stick out of his ass and are now stirring the pot with it.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 White trash.  You opinions are steeped in racism and ingnorance.  At times you seem to have some intelligence and then you roll out the BS race card!  Just stop already.  Racism is FEAR!  Conquer the fear and find out irregardless of skin tone, people are the same on the inside...want to love and be loved, be able to take care of their children, to instill values, character, and morals in them by the way they live their own lives.  Why does the color of a mans skin say anything?!  It is by the quality of his character and how they live their life that people should be judged by. 

TherealGetReal
TherealGetReal

@king181465 is violence really anyway to solve anything.  if what everyone is saying is not true why not just ignore it and let it go by the way side, rather than stir up any more trouble.  I for one know the Rankins and they are not all bad.  Everyone makes mistakes.  However I do agree with tom tom about the osmondsums.  Tom Tom, just let go of it man, things will blow over if everything is incorrect.  If it is all true than just weather the storm.

nealscrazycasa1
nealscrazycasa1

@mooncricket2001 Its a free world where people can have their own beliefs.  As an adult your beliefs should be based on fact or spiritual conviction.  i am not one to stop you.  RUN WITH IT!!

 
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