But when I asked Horne, during a break, if he had paid his phone bill, he said he had.

"Doesn't that mean you thought the bill was accurate?" I asked.

Horne, looking like a corpse at his own funeral, did not reply.

Horne, looking a possible $1.2 million civil fine in the eye, on the first day of a hearing into his alleged misconduct.
Pool Photo by Tom Tingle/The Arizona Republic
Horne, looking a possible $1.2 million civil fine in the eye, on the first day of a hearing into his alleged misconduct.

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The most absurd proposition of the day belonged to Debus, who suggested that the FBI had been on a "witch hunt," which explained why the FBI carried out surveillance of Horne, Winn, and their lawyers (including Debus, according to Debus).

Following the day's testimony, I asked Debus, who technically is Winn's lawyer, about his "witch hunt" charge.

"Never in the history of the FBI have they spent two years investigating a state civil case," Debus asserted.

I pointed out that the FBI's investigation also involved serious allegations of wire fraud, possible obstruction of justice, tampering with witnesses . . .

None of which led to a criminal case against the AG, he retorted.

Talk about whistling past the graveyard.

I reminded Debus of what got the FBI involved: That is, Horne assigned then-AG investigator Meg Hinchey to uncover the source of a "leak" to New Times concerning the married AG's alleged side squeeze, Carmen Chenal, whom Horne had put on the public payroll at $108,000 per year.

Debus called Hinchey "an incompetent investigator," which is funny considering that Horne picked her to do his own internal witch hunt back in 2011.

Actually, Hinchey did the right thing when she ran across evidence of possible wrongdoing by Horne and Winn — she turned over the kit-and-caboodle to the FBI.

When the FBI interviewed Hinchey's ex-boss, former Judge Jim Keppel, onetime head of the AG's criminal division, Keppel told agents that Horne had tried to hide Hinchey's investigation from public view.

"He said, 'What I want to do is . . . get [Hinchey's] notebook and have everything on the investigation taken off her computer,'" Keppel recalls in the transcript of his FBI interview.

That's Horne, Arizona's highest law enforcement official, allegedly discussing the violation of public-records law and Horne's desire to tamper with evidence.

"I don't know anything about that," Debus said, when I asked about it. "I wasn't involved in that."

Sure, but Debus would have the court and the public believe that Horne and Winn's predicament was concocted by the FBI.

Next Debus will tell us that witches really exist after all.

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Have we had enough yet?  Between attacking voter initiatives and defending himself in court when does the work of Arizona get done?  In the parking lot of your mistress' apartment building running away from an accident?

Don't forget.  You can't spell CRAZY without R-AZ.  Vote democrat for a more tolerant state that believes that everyone should have to obey the law.  



Horne is just another one of Arizona's long list of Corrupt Politicians, that believe they are above the law, and can lie, cheat, steal, or do pretty much any thing they want, and still evade justice in this Arizona cesspool of Crooks.

Right Jan, Joe, Russell, ect.

Just claim: "I don't recall right Joe, or have the records of your Dirty Thieving Deeds Sealed, right Jan?!

And Russell, wow, Election Rigging/Manipulating getting hundreds, even thousands to go along with your Felony Mrs. Cortes Conspiracy, yet no charges?!

We Arizonan's have  the Best Crooks running our State!

To: Corrupt Politicians, got to love em?

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