Punk Legends The Urinals: A Long Way from UCLA, But a Long Way From Over

The Urinals back in 1979 on the cover of the Another EP.
The Urinals back in 1979 on the cover of the Another EP.
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By Mark Deming

When one thinks of legendary punk rock venues where great bands got their start, folks usually think of CBGB in New York, or the Masque in Hollywood, or the 100 Club in London. Dykstra Hall, a dormitory on the UCLA campus? Not so much.

But Dykstra Hall does have one claim to fame -- it was the place where one of Southern California's most original and enduring punk rock bands got its start. The Urinals were three Dykstra residents who made their debut at a dorm talent show in 1978 and went on to release a handful of singles that opened ears around the world with their harsh, minimal attack, surreal lyrics, and performances that made a virtue of the group's lack of experience.

The Urinals made a major impact on the Minutemen, who covered their song "Ack Ack Ack Ack," and Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, and the Butthole Surfers are just three of the bands that have cited them as a favorite and an influence.

Unlike many of their peers who made a point of learning in public, the Urinals are still at it, an ongoing experiment in rock 'n' roll that original members John Talley-Jones (bass and vocals) and Kevin Barrett (drums and vocals) still find compelling more than 35 years after their first tongue-in-cheek performance. The Urinals have a new album in the works (their first since 2003) and are hitting the road for a handful of shows, including an appearance at Tempe's Double Nickels Record Collective on Saturday.

The Urinals now.
The Urinals now.
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According to Talley-Jones, the group's witty and articulate frontman, the group started out as a parody of punk, created by fans who were too clumsy to pull off the real thing at first.

"We had ideas, not necessarily about how to play, but ideas about what kind of music we could make without necessarily having the chops," Talley-Jones says via phone. "And, of course, that's what we pursued. We decided, 'Well, even though we don't know what we're doing, we can still do something kind of interesting.' And that was just the flashpoint for what followed."

For the Urinals' 1978 debut, the group had a five-piece lineup, with Talley-Jones and Barrett joined by Kjehl Johansen on a toy keyboard, Steve Willard on guitar, and Delia Frankel on vocals. To their surprise, the ad hoc band got a positive reception when they played a dorm-wide talent show in the Dykstra cafeteria.

"The audience was really amused by it," Talley-Jones says. "They thought it was pretty great, pretty funny. It was sort of performance art; we were dressed up, we were wearing funny sunglasses, all that kind of stuff. But there was another band on the bill. They were jazz musicians -- they were a four-piece and three of them were just livid! They absolutely hated us. I think they felt they were being made fun of. It was a slap in their face!"

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