Jodi Arias Live Blog: Arias Grilled Under Cross-Examination by Prosecutor Juan Martinez; UPDATES
Afternoon recess is over. It's 1:38 p.m.
Prosecutor Martinez begins by asking about her journal entries.
Her entry indicates that "Lonnie" was baptized on a Thursday night, as referenced in her previous testimony. The entry goes on to say she went to Travis' house for the night, "where we explored every naughty fantasy we could conjure up in our fruitful imaginations that we haven't already fulfilled with one another. I love him, I really do."
Martinez asks if this sexual escapade was to involve Pop Rocks and Tootsie Pops. It was. But did she enjoy them?
"I enjoyed his attention," she answers.
Martinez presses for a real answer. She's saying she neither enjoyed it or didn't enjoy it.
Martinez asks her what she's trying to say. He gets her to say she didn't enjoy it.
She missed "Lonnie's" baptism because she was having fun with the Tootsie Pops, right? he asks.
Martinez says the above journal entry implies that she enjoyed it. He points out the Pop Rocks were part of the "naughty fantasy."
She says this was "his" imagination, not hers. Martinez fires back that she's the one wrote the entry.
"Show me here where it says 'I did not enjoy the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks," Martinez says.
She has to admit it doesn't say that.
Martinez is very argumentative. He now asks her if she's a lawyer and knows what a crime is, after she said she didn't tell the cops about the possibility that someone read her journal, because that wouldn't have been a crime. The issue here is that Arias is implying she didn't put all of her thoughts in her journal because someone might read it.
You might wonder what was going on with the candy: We were told Arias put the Tootsie Pops in her vagina and gave oral sex to Alexander with the Pop Rocks in her mouth.
Martinez is asking her if she thought wearing braids was "hot." She says Alexander thought it was "hot." He asks if she wants the tape played again in which she says the braids are "hot."
A tape plays -- she says she really liked when she had the braids. He said he loved the braids. She said, "yeah, they're hot."
Her January 24, 2008 journal entry mentions nothing about the alleged January 2008 fight with Alexander in which she says he broke her finger. Martinez asks why she didn't put that in the journal. She says she would "never" write something like that in there.
"You had the free will to write it, right?" Martinez demands. She agrees.
He asks if she went to a doctor to get her finger looked at. She didn't even tell anyone about it. And she didn't tell Detective Flores about it -- she gave him a different story, the one about the two masked intruders hurting her finger.
"When do you decide to tell the truth -- when you're in this court, and no place else?" Martinez demands.
"No," she says.
"Ma'am, nothing has stopped you from telling this story ever, right?" the prosecutor says.
Martinez is very excited as he goes through this. Arias is unusually calm. Weird. Jury members mostly riveted.
Arias could have called her father about the alleged fight and "supposed" injury to her finger, Martinez points out.
But she didn't tell anyone about a hurt finger until after the murder.
2:06 p.m. Martinez asks about catching Alexander masturbating to an image of a young boy, which is a story Arias told previously during her testimony.
Martinez notes that this incident also supposedly happened before the January 24 journal entry that says nothing "noteworthy" has happened lately.
Arias' demeanor is somewhat smart alecky.
Martinez asks her about a job she had at Mimi's. Martinez seems to get frustrated when she isn't able to answer exactly what time she was supposed to go to work on January 21, 2008, the day Alexander allegedly broke her finger in a fight. She also doesn't know exactly how many hours she had to work that day.
Martinez asks her if her memory problems are recent. She asks what he means by "recent," which is quite smartass of her. The prosecutor is bringing attention to her inability to remember certain things over others. When did you start having these memory issues? Martinez wants to know.
"It depends on the type of memory issue," she answers.
(Yeah -- no duh.)
So, Martinez wants to know, what factors cause her memory to have problems?
Arias responds that it happens sometimes when "men like you" are screaming at her. A murmur rises from the galley.
On January 21, 2008, they had broken up, but Arias says she still went to his house almost every day. That day, he needed help putting boxes up in his attic, she says.
Martinez is trying to get her to say just when she discussed that she would come over on January 21. She says "it was discussed" numerous times over several weeks before she came over. Martinez asks if they agreed she would come over on January 21.
She says they weren't that specific. But Martinez says "the point is, you can't tell us anything about the circumstances of that day."
A question comes up about whether Arias was using Alexander's car on the day she came over. She says he had a car that day. Martinez says we'll look at the text messages and see.
On January 21, at 7:19 p.m., she sent him a text saying "can we trade cars before FHE?"
FHE refers to Family Home Evening, a Mormon church event that began at 7pm.
Arias still hedges on when she came over to his house and had sex with him that day. Martinez says he wouldn't have been there if he had gone to FHE.
This is coming back to the idea that Arias claims Alexander was masturbating to the little-boy picture. Martinez asks if she told someone else that Alexander had been looking at the image on a computer.
Another January 21, 2008, text message sent at 7:20 pm saying one of the stores she wanted t go to closes at 8pm, so she'll go tomorrow.
Then, a few minutes later, Alexander sent Arias a text that he "got a ride from some peeps," meaning a ride to the FHE.
Did the FHE meetings take an hour or last longer?
She says they usually "dispersed" when it was over.
The text shows they are concerned with exchanging the car. Martinez says his point is that she's not talking about masturbating to a picture, but something much more mundane.
The scenario being painted by Martinez is that he was out at FHE without a car, so which car was she driving that night?
She doesn't remember.
Alexander made a bunch of calls to her, records show. Martinez goes over the records. One text indicates just before 7:30 p.m. that she was "almost asleep." Four minutes later, she tells him in a text that she fell asleep and a phone call woke her up.
Again, Martinez blasts for not discussing what she now claims was a huge deal -- catching him masturbating.
The texts show they agreed to make the car exchange the next day. That shows she wasn't intending to go to his home that night, Martinez says.
Martinez is pretty close to proving with these texts that Arias didn't go to Alexander's home the night she claims they had a fight there.
Now we're on to the January 22 texts. The next day. More run-of-the-mill texts. No notes about fighting or masturbating.
She says that on the 22nd, her car was "probably" parked at his house. She may have caught a ride to work from him that day.
Her shift at work was four-to-six hours. She told him in a text that her "lunch offer" still stands. Martinez wants to know what she was talking about. Isn't lunch usually around noon? "Not for Travis," she answers.
Judge Stephens calls the mid-afternoon break. Be about 20 minutes until testimony resumes.
Arias steps down from the witness stand, holding some papers and a white Styrofoam cup. She doesn't seem too shaken from Martinez's hounding.
The break's not over. Watching Arias smile and chat with Kirk Numri and another defense attorney. She doesn't seem like a woman worried about getting the death penalty or even a long prison sentence.
Her attitude on the stand with Martinez isn't quite unflappable -- but perhaps close. More like she's trying to win a debate than win her life. Her confident verbal sparring with the prosecutor seems like more evidence there's something wrong with her, not that she's convincing the jury or anyone else that she was justified in shooting, stabbing and slashing Alexander.
3:28 pm -- mid-afternoon break is over and Arias re-takes the stand.
Martinez notes that no records show a call on January 21 previous to 3:53 p.m. And the last call from her was at 7:11 p.m. that day.
On August 8, 2011, Arias mentioned the subject of Alexander masturbating to a boy's picture, (Arias' claim), during a hearing, Martinez notes. A sidebar at the bench occurs. Then Martinez begins asking about a magazine she received. On one page is some writing -- an ABC producer's contact info.
The prosecutor reminds her that previously testified that a guard "pushed" her into talking to Inside Edition. But the guard had nothing to do with the visit from ABC News, right? Martinez questions.
On another page of the magazine is written "you testify so." The context isn't yet explained. Another page's writing: "We can fix this." Another: "It directly contradicts what I've been saying for over a year."
Publishing date of the magazine is August 2011. On Page 43, more writing: "You fucked up. What you told my attorney the next day." But also, that the "interview was excellent." She had the magazines transferred out of the jail to Matt McCartney, a guy she dated in 2000 and 2001.
Taking a while to get the point...
Martinez talks about how Arias talked to a woman named Bianca who admitted she'd been intimate with
Travis Alexander Matt McCartney. She "absolutely" wanted to find out what was going on with Bianca and McCartney.
Martinez asked about her childhood, which she previously said was "ideal;" she went to Disneyland before age 10, for example. Going into more of her break-up with McCartney. She says the trust was gone. Martinez asks her if that wasn't the reason she broke up with Alexander. She admits it was.
4:27 pm When you made your trip to "kill Mr. Alexander," you stopped in Monterrey, didn't you? Martinez asks. And she saw McCartney, right?
She did. This was on June 3, 2008. She says she spent the night at his apartment -- "I crashed on the floor."
"It was like a house, I stayed the night there in the room that they shared," she says.
"The three of you in the room?"
"Yes." She woke up sometime in the morning.
Then you went to Salinas? She hesitates a little, but says she did. It's about 20-30 minutes from McCartney's place.
She bought some cosmetics, some nail apparel, in Salinas. The town was also on the way to the 101, a freeway she took on her way to Mesa prior to killing Alexander.
"How long were you in Salinas?"
"I don't know -- a few hours," she answers.
Judge Stephens calls it for the day. Testimony will resume on Monday at 10:30 am.
From this morning's testimony:
It's 10:30 a.m. at the Jodi Arias murder trial. Every seat is full today because Arias is preparing to answer questions from prosecutor Juan Martinez, in his cross-examination.
Martinez displays a picture of Arias and her younger sister, Angela, taken on May 10 of 2008. He tells her that she tape-recorded a conversation with victim Travis Alexander, in which she said Angela was a "little bit dumb."
Shows another picture of her and Angela, taken five days later.
Alexander was telling her in a text that Arias was going to turn out like her mother.
"And you indicated that you loved your mother, right?" Martinez says.
She says she can't remember. Then Martinez grills her for remembering the kind of coffee she gets at Starbucks, but not other things.
She says she always gets the same kind. The prosecutor then asks her how she can remember all the different kinds of sex she had with Alexander, but has other memory lapses.
This is an unexpected start to his cross-examination.
Martinez is using a fast-fire approach, and Arias is trying to keep up. He's hammering her about how she felt it was okay to say something bad about her sister, but not her mother -- a little hard to follow along.
He talks about her testimony yesterday, in which she said she went into Alexander's house in 2007 once without knocking -- she went around the back, like she did on the day of the June 4, 2008 murder.
Yesterday, Arias told the court that when she looked in, she saw Alexander making out with a woman.
Martinez wants Arias to review what she claims she saw in 2007. Doesn't sound like he believes this ever happened.
"You were able to see it was a female, right? You were able to see the bra was unhooked, right?" Martinez rapid-fires.
Arias says she was living at Greenfield and Broadway at the time. She took off after seeing Alexander with the woman, she claims.
Afterwards, she talked to her father, crying, Martinez elicits from her.
"I thought you said you didn't discuss these type of issues between you and Mr. Alexander," he says.
She says she didn't discuss them, usually.
Arias claimed yesterday that she confronted Alexander about catching him with the woman.
"What in the world gave you the right to go and talk to an ex-boyfriend... who you'd broken up with?" Martinez explodes. This question is objected to, and Judge Sherry Stevens sustains it.
He mentions that she was living in another place, with a friend, Rachel, and didn't even have to pay rent.
"So you could have just let that situation alone, but you decided to confront him anyway, right?" he says.
"Of course," she answers.
Martinez makes his point: It's because she was jealous, right?
Police have previously said they believe the motive for the vicious slaying of Alexander was jealousy.
Juan Martinez, as seen last week in court.
Image: Court pool picture
He reminds her that she said previously she was monogamous. He relates to how she was with Ryan Burns in Utah when she wasn't even sure if Alexander was dead.
"When did you know that he was dead, tell me that?"
"Well, I got confirmation on June 10..."
But she met Ryan Burns on June 5.
Arias says she guesses she knew he was dead, but wasn't accepting it.
"Did you know he was dead" when she and Burns were kissing?
"Yeah, I think I did."
Martinez asks if it was okay for her to "roll around" with Burns, why did she feel the need to confront Alexander over supposedly catching him with another woman?
"You're saying one, it's okay for you to confront him, but not okay for Mr. Alexander to confront you, right?"
Arias still sounds somewhat confident, throwing out answers quickly, though occasionally seems confused by Martinez's rapid questions.
Some jury members are taking a moment to flip through their notes.
Martinez explains that Arias testified that on January 22, 2008, she and Alexander were having a violent encounter, in which he kicked her, and she put up her left hand.
He puts up the second picture with Angela Arias. Mentions this picture was taken about four months after she supposedly had a bent finger. Her finger doesn't look injured in the picture.
Martinez asks her to hold up her finger now, which she does.
She explains that her finger is bent in the picture. Martinez, in seeming disbelief, asks her to hold up her finger again.
Martinez then mentions the injury on her finger she showed to Burns in Utah the day after the killing, noting that her left ring finger seems to suffer a lot. She says it was two fingers on her right hand that were seen to be injured in Utah.
But Martinez springs some evidence on her: On July 16, 2008, she told a Mesa police detective that on June 4, she'd been at Alexander's home, and the two masked intruders came in. She told the cop her left finger had been damaged in the attack, Martinez explains.
Attorneys were in a sidebar for a minute with the judge over the issue of whether Martinez could show the jury Arias' 2008 interview with police, in which she shows him her left hand. She told Detective Esteban Flores that she couldn't close her finger all of the way.
It's a powerful piece of evidence of how Arias manages to fully explain her stories -- when it suits her.
Martinez asks her if her left finger wasn't, in fact, injured on the day of the murder, not the day of the supposed fight in January 2008 with Alexander. She denies it.
Ryan Burns, the Utah man she was cuddling and kissing the day after she killed Alexander in Arizona, previously testified that Arias told her she cut her finger at a bar she worked, Margaritaville. Arias denies she ever told Burns that was the name of the bar -- she said she told him the cut happened "at work."
Martinez asks if she ever told Burns she'd cut her right finger. She says they didn't discuss which finger it was.
(Yet her finger had been bandaged in Utah, so we'd have to assume Burns didn't need to ask which finger.)
11:20 a.m. -- another pause in the action as attorneys approach the bench.
11:27 a.m. -- Arias finishes reading one of her own journal entries that Martinez asked her to look at.
Now Martinez puts the journal entry on the screen.
She wrote that she loves Alexander so much, she doesn't know "any other way to be."
By the way, if you want to watch this live, try here.
Martinez has Arias looking at more of her own journal entries. He just reminded that in one, just days after her alleged January 2008 fight with Alexander in which she said he broke her finger, she wrote in her journal that nothing noteworthy had happened lately.
Vladimir Gagic, a Tempe defense attorney who's following the trial, just tweeted, "Mr. Prosecutor: why haven't you shown #jodiarias' police interrogation videos yet and cross on changing alibis?"
Good point, but Martinez clearly has a plan. This cross-examination seems like it will last a while.
11:54 a.m. still reading journal entries or court transcripts...
Now Martinez asks her about how she references some kind of sexual incident, and a baptism she went to.
First page of a journal entry starts out saying Sunday, January 28, right? Martinez asks. And no other date reference, right? (Arias seems reluctant to admit he's right.)
He talks about two pages that follow the passage he pointed out -- also written in the same blue ink, with no date referenced. He has her turn another page. Again, blue ink, no date.
12 noon -- recess
Check back later for updates. Testimony to resume at 1:20.
(Note -- we're putting the afternoon session at the top of this post; please go to the first page for the latest stuff.)
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