Letters From the Issue of Thursday, March 1, 2007

Activist Grudges

Got burned?: Thank you for stirring up hatred against patriotic Americans with your lying, slanted "profile" of me ("Burn, Baby, Burn!" Stephen Lemons, February 15). The power of the press to influence the ignorant is wonderfully illustrated by the hateful comments here.

This article no more reflects who I am than would a drive-by photo of me bending over, yet it purports to be in depth. Anything positive or good that I said to Steve Lemons, which would reflect well on me (85 percent of our conversations), never made it into print.



He lied like a rug on this one, making up things and emotions that never existed, overemphasizing everything he could for the purposes of making me look like a crackpot. My own friends couldn't even recognize me! If there's a Hell for yellow journalists like him, he'll be going there for his afterlife.
Laine Lawless, Mesa

Editor's note: There are no lies/fabrications in the article featuring Laine Lawless. We suggest that Ms. Lawless take a hard look in the mirror.

And your point would be . . .: Your article on Laine Lawless sucked, and my friends didn't like it. I hated it, and you made my friend, Laine, look like a fucking wacko. I hope you burn for that.

You don't even know how to fucking write, and I'm going to blackball New Times like there is no tomorrow. You made Laine look like a wacko for saying illegals are coming into this country and taking our jobs. The writer of this article is a fucking wacko himself.
Lisa Teel, Tempe

As long as you're not Xena-phobic, either: Our society is great because people are free to live independently, work unfettered and be as productive as they see fit. Illegal immigrants, in general, embody this spirit and capability more than Laine Lawless and her ilk.

The atrocity within the story on Lawless occurs when the author compares Lawless' rants to that of Libertarians. If the author understood what true Libertarians stood for, he might be shocked. The official party line on immigration is: "The Libertarian Party has long recognized the importance of allowing free and open immigration, understanding that this leads to a growing and more prosperous America. We condemn the xenophobic immigrant bashing that would build a wall around the United States. At the same time, we recognize that the right to enter the United States does not include the right to economic entitlements such as welfare. The freedom to immigrate is a freedom of opportunity, not a guarantee of a handout."

Why even worry about such semantics when the Libertarian Party is not competitive come election day? Because if we continue to vote blindly for no political philosophy, we encourage the likes of Lawless and our lackluster politicians to pontificate their hateful and shameless tirades.
Joe Illing, Tempe

Hey, buster, we have dental: Once again, your over-fluffed porno rag has taken a serious problem (no, not Joe Arpaio) and twisted it to fall into the petting lap of those who break our laws . . .

It could only be from a nonsense fish-wrapper such as yours that the opinions of natural-born citizens are nothing more than a comic strip for your inexperienced, Slurpee-sipping, unemployable-in-a-real-job staff writers to distort into a joke.

This state and this nation are being invaded by corrupt, violent, drug-running illegals, and if liberal baboons can't see the road in front of them, it is due, as always, to the fact that lazy idiots who stay in school forever haven't got a real clue about anything important.

Have any of your apartment-dwelling writers taken a bus ride to El Paso lately? We are a nation of immigrants. All Mexicans aren't the problem, but the ones that don't comprehend the law in this country should not be granted anything. This nation will not accept the continued grinding down of our basic living standards.

America will stand. Just keep pushing.
Name withheld by request

That's some hungry pathos: I found your article on Laine Lawless pretty entertaining. Lawless' takes on "illegals" make her seem like a paragon of virtue.

Personally, I have a conservative view toward immigration, and am able to discern between "legal" and "illegal" in my viewpoints. And, as I'd like to see the amount of illegal immigration curtailed, I find that Lawless and her friends are less concerned with actual issues of immigration than they are with power-mongering for the sake of feeding their own pathos.

It seems that Lawless simply likes to feel in control and powerful. Yet her power is an illusion.

Unfortunately, she has now found an audience, and is fueling race hatred and inciting civil unrest at the expense of society at large. I'm very concerned that a personality like hers is being given a platform and a voice, thereby validating her opinions in the eyes of some.
Name withheld by request

God hates flags: Why is it that New Times can't see that people like Laine Lawless are patriots whom we should all admire?

It takes guts to stand up in front of Mexicans and their liberal supporters and burn the Mexican flag. Most good Americans would be too in fear of their lives to do this, even though they enjoy seeing Lawless and her colleagues do it.

I believe Lawless is being shunned because she's a lesbian, not because her views don't make sense. People like Chris Simcox simply can't deal with the fact that a homo has more of a following than they do. It's sad.
Name withheld by request

Paging Mike Hunt . . .: Laine Lawless is clueless, but I'd bet the farm that she's got a bigger dick than [Minuteman leader] Chris Simcox. They don't call him the "Little Prince" for nothing!
Mike Hunt, Phoenix

'Tard with the same brush: "Crusader" Laine Lawless is just another bullshit loser who's gotten TV cameras to come out because she burns the Mexican flag. I love the way New Times demonstrated that not only is she an ignorant moron, but so are the other pathetic rednecks who make so-called careers out of bashing Mexicans in the name of stopping "illegal" immigration.

Lawless is such a ridiculous fool that I laughed out loud several times as I was reading your story. It's no wonder that the Minutemen won't have anything to do with her; her presence in their movement would make them look even dumber than they already look to anybody who got past third grade.

She obviously has no idea that she comes across as a laughable retard. The really sad thing is . . . if she actually confronted a Mexican coyote, with her gun on her hip, she'd be in big trouble. That would prove once and for all how tough she's not. She'd get her ugly fat ass kicked all the way back to the Bay Area.

Your story was great, because it exposed her and the other vigilantes (like Minutemoron Chris Simcox) — who like to delude themselves into thinking they're keeping Mexicans out of the U.S., by acting all bad-ass and "patrolling" the border — for what they are: dumb-as-a-rock trailer trash.
Roberto Morales, Phoenix


FYI, Arthur Butz is a real person: Kevin Barrett, in his letter ("Non-Denial Denial," February 15) regarding The Bird's "Denier's Conference" item ( The government version of 9/11 events is manifest bullshit. So is the conventional wisdom concerning the "Holocaust," which Professor Arthur Butz of Northwestern University aptly termed The Hoax of the Twentieth Century in his book by that title published in 1976.

So what else is new? The government, along with the rest of "the establishment," lies to us continuously.

Who believes their version of the JFK assassination? Whatever fault one may care to find with Oliver Stone's movie, JFK, it's clearly closer to the facts than the Warren Commission Report.

Who believes what they have told us about the Waco massacre or the Oklahoma City bombing?

The Robert Kennedy assassination, the Martin Luther King assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the weapons of mass destruction of Saddam Hussein, etc., etc., etc. We live practically on an exclusive diet of bullshit.

And the "Holocaust"? Perhaps it's the biggest bullshit story of them all. It's way past time to grind that particular sacred cow into hamburger, although it would surely give a mighty case of indigestion to worshipful adherents.
Jack Martin, Scottsdale

Truth can be strange: While conspiracy believer Kevin Barrett took issue with The Bird's comparing his lot to Holocaust deniers, I see the point entirely.

It's not that these 9/11 conspiracy nuts refuse to believe that the Nazis killed millions of Jews, it's that they refuse to see the obvious parallels [in the modus operandi] between them and people who refuse to accept that there were concentration camps and gas chambers.

Hello? Both Holocaust deniers and deniers of the government's version of 9/11 refuse to face facts. They refuse to accept the obvious. While many of us would like to believe that the evil Bush Administration planned and carried out 9/11, the facts just aren't there to support this point of view.

It's amazing that so many people are wasting their lives trying to prove something that's patently absurd.
John Mackie, Tucson

Ripping Yarn

Guilty until the check clears: Thank you for your unbiased article about the Ripoff Report Web site ("The Real Rip-Off Report," Sarah Fenske, February 1). I had no idea any of that could be legal in America, but there it is.

There are many innocent people who may never be able to clear their names or reputations because of that site, even if what was said is a complete lie. It happened to my dad, and our family was in absolute shock.

We didn't have the money to hire a lawyer (it wouldn't have worked anyway) or to pay to join the [site's] consumer advocacy program. I still don't understand how this is not blackmail.

It doesn't just affect businesses. One can be listed as a regular person, complete with their home address/phone number. That horrible "no fact-checking" is a problem.
Sue Ziegler, Dallas, Texas

Maybe there oughta be a law: Thanks to Sarah Fenske for pulling the rug out from under the Ripoff Report (at least I hope it will). Those of us who've been victimized by Ed Magedson are in her debt. At least we can refer our detractors to this story as an explanation of why we are telling the truth about ourselves.

The story was good because it showed how he gets away with it. I already knew, of course, because I tried to initiate legal action, to no avail. Maybe a story like this will affect legislative change. I hope so.
Name withheld by request


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