At Phoenix's mayoral debate, candidates offered up many of the same talking points you can find on their websites.
Mayoral candidate Wes Gullett swipes at fellow candidate Councilman Claude Mattox, chairman of city's Public Safety Committee, because Phoenix still hasn't hired a police chief -- four months after Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris resigned.
Moments later, Gullett defends how he will be able to be Phoenix's mayor and still have an interest in his lobbying firm, FirstStrategic.
"My intention is to take a leave of absence," he says, adding that he built up that company for nine years.
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His opponents want him to sell off his interest in that company, he says, so he doesn't "have anything left that I've built up. I think it's only fair for me to keep what I've built up."
Gullet says he would figure out a way to not make anymore money than he is making now, regardless of what clients his firm takes on.
Although he says he has considered selling his interest in the firm, he adds, "I don't think it's a conflict of interest at all. I'm not much of a lobbyist."
Only about 10 percent of his job is lobbying, he says.