Hey I just want to say it was a bad ass show and every wrestler did a great job, The New Times should have stayed for the whole show beacause they don't call the main event the main even for nothing! You've never seen a main event like a Heaven and Hell Wrestling Main Event! Oh yeah it's American Gangster not American Business Man

i love the pics about the show. you guys did a great job on the first two matches but no pics of the best match of the night. you had no pics of the return of Nerve Damage abd his awesome win to get the belt back.

The New Times should have stayed for the whole show because they missed the best part - Nerve Damage's return to the ring. Heaven and Hell Wrestling wouldn't be anything without Nerve Damage and he definitely deserves some recognition, which he would have gotten had The New Times actually stuck around long enough to see that.

I think the show was awesome. i had a lot of fun
The American Gangster is my favorite wrestler

you guys were gay rappers

That was a great show, I recommend any one to come to the show next time, cuz I promise you, that you wont be dissapointed and its worth everything for coming, they got heaven and hell shirts you can buy and got girls playing in a pile of apple sauce wrestling each other around, and the best part of it is you see all the wrestlers doing insane stuff and you see lots of blood!!! come to the next show.

-Chris Condron H&H Fan.

that shit kicked ass. the wrestling was very entertaining not to mention the girls walking around half naked. dewbi and steve irwin were tight.

that show was the best show out of all of em. too bad the new times guy had to leave before the best fights happened. he missed the lumber jacks and the barbed wire match. great show guys!

It was an amazing show and all of H&H's shows are great!!!!!

Im glad the new times got to come out and check out the show but like many others have said already they should have stayed for the entire show because the best matches are always towards the end of the shows and all the crazy extreme wrestleling always happens then thats what H&H is known for, serious action, pain and blood and once in a while some sexy girls.

oh goodness, Terrance? is a hella sexy rapper and he assured me he would not lose a battle. bring it on PHX. yay for apple sauce wrestling as well, that is my specialty!!!!!!!!!

we showered together, nekked......hahaha

I've got some tips for your next show:
1) clean up the Devil's Rejects backyard and buy some folding chairs
2) Make sure your musical talent never again asks the question, "any Juggalos out in the audience?"
3) Have your valets and female wrestlers go on a rice and beans diet, or stop doing the crystal meth
4) Buy some DVDs of Combat Zone Wrestling, IWA Mid-south, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (out of LA, so you can go see them live), and Ring of Honor, have most of your talent get real training, and stop making a mockery of a great exhibition-style sport.
I've seen shows from coast to coast and I've yet to see a good one in AZ, and I've been to all the feds except for IZW (Phoenix Rising was very similar from what I've heard). Your fans were constantly mocking the product, and I got so pissed that I left after the apple sauce match. Wrestling in other parts of the country enjoys a whole different level of respect, but all I heard in the crowd was your so-called fans saying they'd rather be at UFC, and these annoying chicks telling me to cheer harder. I'll never come back.

The only thing you should keep is the $1 beers!

I've got some tips for your next show:
1) clean up the Devil's Rejects backyard and buy some folding chairs
2) Make sure your musical talent never again asks the question, "any Juggaloes out in the audience?"
3) Have your valets and female wrestlers go on a rice and beans diet, or stop doing the crystal meth
4) Buy some DVDs of Combat Zone Wrestling, IWA Mid-south, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (out of LA, so you can go see them live), and Ring of Honor, have most of your talent get real training, and stop making a mockery of a great exhibition-style sport.
I've seen wrestling show from coast to coast and have yet to see a good one in AZ, and I've been to all of them except IZW which is a similar show to Phoenix Rising. Your white trash fans were very disrespectful and kept commenting they'd rather be at UFC. I think they just haven't been at a real wrestling event (not counting WWE which is a joke anyway) Oh, and what's with the cheerleaders in the crowd? STFU!
The only thing you should keep is the $1 beers!

Have you ever noticed that know matter where you go, a show, a party, any place where there is a large gathering of people for one purpose, there always has to be at least one jerk (see comments by "Dave")I've always tried to figure out why they are the way they are. The only thing I can come up with is "Maybe their momma didn't hold them enough when they were young." So they have to take it out on everyone else and try to insult them down to their level. Well sorry "Dave" but it don't work here. Red, White and Pain was a great show. All of the Heaven and Hell Wrestlers did a great job. Everyone else involved in the show, H&H girls, security, referee, sound and video professional, sales people and anyone else I've missed did a great job. Also to the fans, I'd like to say "Thank You" to all of you for your continued support, without you all the shows wouldn't even be possible. And last but not least,
"Thank You" Phoenix Newtimes for coming out and taking the pictures and showing your support here online. Hope you make it to the next show.

Momma, this 'jerk' outlined to a pretty specific degree what I didn't like about the show, and I can go further. I don't need your planted female audience members in the crowd to tell me when to cheer and not to cheer. You need to give the crowd something to cheer or boo about!

None of your talent has a clue about wrestling. They don't draw heat or know how to be faces, they cannot execute moves and they certainly don't sell moves done to them. Hell, your presentation, lack of chairs, and patronizing of the crowd was disgusting. Calling you white trash is being gentle.


Read my previous comment again, since I mention a few organizations that could help. I was pissed off more and more every moment I was there, so perhaps YOU are the jerks for scamming everyone for $10 and giving them a shitty product! You guys couldn't even keep the belt tied up during the ladder match which fell off twice. Here's a hint, use a material that does wonders, it's called "string".


Feel free to write me at www.myspace.com/redboar if you want to discuss this further. Don't try to have your friends threaten me either OK?

umm...dEwBi and Steve Irwin Did far better than those "battle Rappers"

..cover the whole show next time..

This comment is to Dave. This is Nerve Damage the H&H World Heavey Weight Champion. You didn't even stay the whole show so how can you even think about opening your mouth about how "every" wrestler couldn't sell any move or they all needed more training? You don't have any room to talk, I'd love to see you try and do half the stuff we do in that Federation! I put all my blood, sweat, and tears into H&H and I know every other wrestler in H&H would most likely tell you the samething! You should never talk down something or try and put your two cents in something you know nothing about!!!!! Come to the next show and actually stay the whole show and not try and nit pick every little detail because I know that's all you did was pick out evey little detail.

This is to Dave,
I agree with you on a couple things...
1) The backyard does need to be cleaned up and the setting around the ring could be better, but for a backyard wretling scene it fit the part.
2)for the girls you can go suck a cock because i loved seeing real life girls up there with curves and having fun and having a smile on their face at all times. Who wants a food deprived anorexic or balemic head case up there, i don't care what any one says that just aint sexy.
3) as for the wrestler, no ones perfect but they put on a great show, i hate WWF and UFC is ok but that shit back there was the real shit dude. I have seen some shows where they have been shut down or postponed do to seriouse injurys. I understand your feeling on the ladder match, yeah it pissed me off they stopped it twice cuz that shit fell but hey they should have just beat the shit out of the ref, lol :) j/k but yeah it was annoying for it to have stopped twice. But the end of the show was the best. Those wrestlers not only put on a show but they were able to put out there lives for that shit. The barbed wire and watching them get have to get bandaged and all the gauze with the blood from doing so i mean come on that shit you don't just fake.

so yeah there are things that can be better but i've been watching them for a year now and i love it and they have come a long way and i can't wait to see how it changes again for this next show in august (the 23rd if any one was wondering) so to sum it all up ...

GO FLY A FRICKEN KITE :) H&H FRIGGEN ROCKS MY SOCKS YEAH!!!!

Nerve Damage, you are right, I should have stayed the whole show and to be honest, it was the rude f'n people in the crowd who were drunks and heckling the product that really pissed me off. I would not try what you do for several reasons, and I respect what you do, assuming you personally do better than what most of the Valley calls a wrestling product. I will reiterate what I said once more. Here are MY STANDARDS for a good product:

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla

IWA Mid-south

Combat Zone Wrestling

Ring of Honor

If you aren't familiar with any of these, I encourage you to find them online (very easy to do so), order some DVDs and watch them. I have the right to critique something and just because you trained doesn't mean I have to in order to prove how correct I am. I'm also going to say, I've seen shows like MSPW, Rising Phoenix, HIW in Arizona and they all sucked, so I never intended to single out Heaven and Hell Wrestling.

Apparently, most people in the Valley are ignorant and aren't aware that UFC and wrestling are two different products! I believe you should be happy you got some discerning fans out there that have seen some unreal shit and that includes plenty of blood. I've seen deathmatch tourneys live that looked like a literal warzone after two nights of hitting each other with barb wire, light tubes, real tables, wooden boards with nails, razor blades, etc. I've also seen the best in scientific and high flying, not to mention strong style which PWG does very well in the LA area. My point is that you guys have plenty of room to grow and improve, and I wish you the best.


One thing that Heaven and Hell really, really, really needs to change and that is to get some folding chairs. Get rid of the cheerleaders in the crowd too, that's very annoying and a big distraction.