Up on the Sun: I understand everyone in the band is a transplant. What were some of the forces that brought you guys together?
John J. Yohimbe: I was pretty much disgusted with the music scene down here. I'd hooked up with a couple cats to do some blues stuff, and was able to play and develop my chops. But I was really wanting to get into a situation where I could do real, original music. So I went on Backpage and found an ad Rich had on there. He was just looking for guys to jam with. I had to cancel on him like six times, and I knew about the flakes out here so I was hoping he didn't think I was one of them.
Rich Tokatyan: I did have him lumped into the "flake" box.
Yohimbe: But we finally got together. I'm sitting in his living room; I had my small combo amp and my guitar. And he's playing these songs for me that he recorded on his Macintosh and playing his bass. He's singing and he's got all these tunes and he's like, "You know, I've had these guitar players come through saying they can play, but when I play my stuff with them, nothing happens." So I just started playing along to his stuff and I really just dug it. I just knew where he was coming from with it.
Tokatyan: It's kind of an unusual pairing because, for me, I was looking for someone to take the stuff that I write on the bass and interpret it with the guitar and find a melding, but most guitar players don't think like that. We're able to kind of play off each other and work off each other. John writes stuff that I can work with, and conversely I'm able to come up with stuff that he can interpret. We're both old school. I'm from New York and he's from Jersey so we both had influences that span multiple genres; Punk, reggae, rock, disco, funk -- we listened to everything growing up. All of that stuff came through in our connection.
Yohimbe: As a musician and as a writer, you rarely make those kinds of connections. You know, for all intent and purposes, it is magical when it happens so you embrace it. I was very fortunate.
Tokatyan: And then we went three years, literally, three years, searching for other members and in that time ... we went through a whole litany of interesting situations.
Yohimbe: We met some of the most no-talented, egotistical, self-absorbed, excuse-creating, no-chops-having...
Tokatyan: Not like we were standing up high on this mountain, but we ran into a lot of pretenders. We were looking for people that had our level of passion and commitment.
So you guys come into this environment that leaves much to be desired with the talent pool and the commitment level. What made you stay? What was the redeeming quality that you guys saw in the music scene?
Yohimbe: Right now, we're still coming into the realization of what is functional out here and what's dysfunctional. We know that with the musical culture, that there are more concentrated core locations in the States that will embrace what we do a little bit more. But right now, we're trying to establish ourselves to the point where we can have this cycling of fans and a following and an understanding of what we can really do. Because a lot of people simply haven't heard what we can do. There are opportunities to have here.
The thing about the Valley that's different from just about every other major city is that its always waiting for something to happen. It won't take the initiative to make something happen. And you can feel that vibe when you go to an L.A. or you go to a New York; people are not waiting around. They're making things happen.
Tokatyan: We looked at the situation out here and we recognized the challenges, but we also recognized that there were opportunities because there really wasn't much happening. Our thinking was, "let's make it happen. If there's no real scene here let's make one." It's not a great scene but it is a blank canvas.
Yohimbe: I think ultimately, the people are waiting for something. They receive, they don't create. I think that's because people are coming from so many different places in this country that they're not ...
Tokatyan: They're not rooting down.