Obama Winning Arizona Sounds Like a Dumb Idea Again; Poll Says Prez Down 11

See also: Obama Winning Arizona: Not as Dumb of an Idea as People Thought

In April, Arizona State University's Morrison Institute released a poll showing the race between President Obama and GOP nominee Mitt Romney in Arizona was essentially a "toss up."

The thought of Obama winning Arizona -- which the president's campaign contends is possibly -- suddenly didn't seem like a dumb idea.

Scratch that -- according to the two latest polls in the Obama/Romney Arizona horse race, the Mitt-man is up big.

Rasmussen Reports released its poll last week, showing Romney up 13 in the state.

Yesterday, Public Policy Polling released its most recent poll, showing 52 percent for Romney, 41 percent for Obama, and 7 percent who don't know what they're doing.

If you check out Real Clear Politics' chart, just two polls thus far have shown Obama ahead in Arizona, and they're both from the same place -- Behavior Research Center.

PPP showed a tie between Romney and Obama in February, and single-digit Romney leads in late May and early June.

In this most recent PPP poll, Romney has 46 percent of Arizona's independent voters, compared to 37 percent for Obama.

In the U.S. Senate horse race, Democrat Richard Carmona and Republican Jeff Flake are tied up at 38 percent, with 25 percent still undecided.

PPP didn't even ask about Wil Cardon -- who's running in a primary against Flake -- although Cardon's been down double-digits in every poll released over the course of the election.

We sent an email to PPP yesterday to get the official reason as to why the pollsters didn't include Cardon, but we didn't get a response.

All of the stats from PPP's poll can be found here.