Get Out!: Arizona and America Join Joe Arpaio in Rushing to Inquire: Are Your Papers in Order?

Editor's note: Following publication of this article, U.S. District Judge Susan R. Bolton enjoined the state of Arizona from enacting key provisions of state Senate Bill 1070. Though the law’s most dangerous sections were put on pause, pending the outcome of litigation, the remainder of the law goes into effect, as scheduled, Thursday, July 29. See the full story on Bolton’s ruling, and read her entire decision, here.


We in the Grand Canyon state salute, by statute, the howler monkeys in jingo trees.

Unable to regulate our border, unwilling to create a reasonable path to citizenship for the immigrants who labor in our place, Arizona law enforcement officially now undertakes to rid us of Mexicans.

Because of infamous Arizona Senate Bill 1070, which is to take effect on Thursday, July 29, the pretext of traffic stops will now initiate a search for residency papers, a practice at once abhorrent and also under consideration by as many as 20 other states.

The national terror of reconquista will now flood the streets and courts of Arizona.

The ACLU and the United States Justice Department are seeking an injunction to put SB 1070 on hold until seven lawsuits pending against it can be addressed.

While lawyers cosseted in leathered briefs discuss the depth of the anti-Mexican deluge, the boots on the ground of this immigrant monsoon wear badges and guns.

If police officers were supermen, there would still be the matter of kryptonite; lawmen, however, like the rest of us, are human: The alarm doesn't go off, but the spouse does; calls get dropped, coffee gets spilled. And, every so often, officers' problems are the stuff of television drama.

Now, like Noah with his ark, the police will sort the brown in the automobile: "You two remain; you two go to Nogales."

Daniel Magos, once an immigrant, now a United States citizen, is one man who understands the divide in a cop's life.

Once, when one of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's men had a flat tire, Daniel stopped to help.

On another occasion, a deputy was adrift in a conversation with a Spanish-speaking immigrant in south Phoenix. The officer had trouble understanding or being understood. Daniel stepped forward and translated for Arpaio's man.

Nor has Magos hesitated in the face of danger.

In 2000, he saw a group of men attacking what he believed was a mojado, a wetback. Magos summoned a deputy. The lawman grabbed one of the belligerents, and as his compadres attempted to flee in a car, they tried to run over the deputy. The officer gave his prisoner to Daniel.

"You hold him for me," Magos recalled the deputy telling him.

The deputy then gave chase in his vehicle, and the pursuit ended only when those fleeing crashed their car. In the ensuing chaos, Daniel was left to his own devices. "I called the sheriff's department and asked: 'What will I do?'"

What Daniel Magos would do today, 10 years later, is walk away.

What changed?

Only this: Daniel and his wife, Eva, were recent victims of racial profiling.

Daniel and Eva were, if you will, ahead of their time, ahead of SB 1070. And herein lies a small story about what happens when we hunt Mexicans and Mexican Americans and Central Americans in our national hysteria over the brown-skinned people amongst us.

We hear so often that Senate Bill 1070, which demands that police — in the course of their enforcement responsibilities — question people about their citizenship, will frighten Latinos away from speaking up in domestic-abuse calls or in drug investigations or in gang probes.

Critics of SB 1070 characterize the victims of this racial-profiling bill as a population caught up in some low-rent episode of Law & Order.

The caution that SB 1070 will make witnesses silent is true, as far as it goes.

But SB 1070 has a more insidious side.

The victims of racial profiling sacrificed to the nativist fears that spawned SB 1070 are just as likely to be upstanding American citizens, even Good Samaritans like Daniel Magos .

Keep this in mind as America rushes to inquire: Are your papers in order?


Born in 1945, Daniel Magos is soft-spoken, reserved, firm. Despite the run-in with a sheriff's deputy he and his wife suffered, his manner is dignified, not put-upon. He presents the sort of serenity you see upon the faces of victims portrayed on holy cards. Not to suggest Daniel is a saint — he's simply a good man and a better neighbor.

He met Eva in 1965, as a 20-year-old, at the American Legion, Post 41, in Phoenix. "I was sitting at a table by myself when she and another lady came over and asked if they could sit down. It was her friend's idea."

When he met Eva's family, he had one vivid impression: "Her father was quite strict . . . If you went out to dinner, you had to be back by 8 p.m."

Dances offered a little more leeway on time, so Eva and Daniel would visit the Calderon Ballroom on 16th Street and Buckeye Road. "Actually we went next door, to Nano's. The music and the people were different. There was a higher social status at Nano's."

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  • Kuhn202 08/31/2010 6:03:00 PM

    It is not about hate! it's about being Illeagle! does the uk allow you to live there illeagaly? would mexico allow you to live there illeagaly? will russia allow it? how about greece? what about japan? or italy? germany? poland? france? would any country allow you to just show up one day, get a job, not pay taxes? get free medical treatment? send your money back to your homeland? No I dont think so... you people need to wake up!

  • Luis2dope 08/29/2010 5:20:00 PM

    You are just intimated because whites are becoming the minority and all that bullshit yall have been giving us is going to come back to yall. Look it up, the under 18 population in America---- WHITES ARE THE MINORITY. BOO YAH--- and white females run to other races all the time anyway. Latina women and black women dont date whites, so you can be lonley, mad, and ignorant while we become educated and take yall women, Arizona is one of the worse places in AMERICA a get a public education.

  • Luis2dope 08/29/2010 5:15:00 PM

    SO you lived here illegally for 14 years and you have no compassion. I wish your bitch ass would have gotten deported.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/29/2010 4:19:00 PM

    Yes, and it's a shame that the american people are so eager to put new laws to diminish freedom in this country, their hate towards one race blinds them totally.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/29/2010 4:09:00 PM

    Winston Smith: You will be in jail one of these days for vandalism. You don't like the articles of the New Times because they're telling the truth and nothing but the truth, wheather people like you don't want to hear the truth. You're just happy with your hateful life, your hateful upbringing is a thing of the past, grow up and face it, it's time for you to change, it's time for you to change hate for love in order to vibrate according to the new planet, for those who are not willing to change their hate for love, the planet will vomit them, and will no longer have a chance to reborn here, a planet that has been raised to the frequency of only love. It's time to change hate for love.

  • palladin 08/27/2010 9:41:00 PM

    You people who think it is cool to profile people, look at the UK because it IS happening to you. We are being groomed for ID at every turn, even taking money out the bank needs ID and if it's more than £1,000 be prepared.! The UK is the most watched country in the WORLD, the UK is smaller than most US states! Beware letting the government run your life, the UK voted LAbour (fascist/socilaist whatever) and for 12 YEARS they criminalised everyone. Non crimes became heinous, like you can be JAILED for having your hunting knife in the trunk without lawful reason or good excuse! As for dissent, well anto whir=te racism is a fact in the UK, the last government made it LEGAL to discriminate against whites (positive discrimination). W ehave a two tier law systemm that allows immigrants to demand death to non Christians with immunity but if we even look at them the wrong way we are accused of a racist attack. At least you can still fly the Stars and Stripes without fear of arrest, unlike England where you are told by cops to take DOWN the national flag. Log on to brit papers liuke the Daily Mail and see where the US is headed if you are not careful!

  • WinstonSmith 08/25/2010 6:14:00 PM

    I have a hobby. Every Wednesday I drive around to the locations in my neighborhood that have New Times stands and I openly take the entire stack of freshly printed papers and pile them in my car. After a couple hours I usually gather about 500 papers or so (total guess on my part, I have never bothered to count). I then take them to the first dumpster I find and throw them in. I call it my personal BOYCOTT. I know it isn't much, but I take heart in the knowledge that I am doing my part to take down the mindless PC-propaganda machine that is called the New Times. If you are like me, and you are sick to death of the hateful extremist bullshit that is constantly streaming out of this paper I encourage you to do the same thing. Every time you see a New Times stand take all the papers in the stand and throw them away. Together we can force the editors of the New Times to go back to the good old "Entertainment" reporting they used to engage in. Otherwise we will simply bury them. Either way works for me.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 11:04:00 AM

    Yes, but the majority of people want to experience what you experienced. You give more power to Law Enforcement and guess what, this won't be a free country anymore. People take the freedom we have for granted, they want laws and newer laws and more laws to take away your freedom until americans have to ask for a permit to travel from city to city, that's where this is heading: TO THE LOST OF FREEDOM WITH THE BLESSING OF AMERICANS. Just like the chinese were so happy fighting to be communist not knowing what was coming to them

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 10:46:00 AM

    the answer is very simple: to give citizenship to those undocumented, that way they will pay for the tickets, and pay taxes, and then you will be happy

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 10:40:00 AM

    Cleerseer2005: so much for your sarcasm! I've known many real stories like the ones Mr. Lacey wrote about. He is telling the truth.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 10:34:00 AM

    I DON'T BELIEVE A WORD YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT YOUR WIFE.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 10:27:00 AM

    you just used your criminal mind you have and 12 people like it???? Wow, hate is blinding you all.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 10:11:00 AM

    And we already learned to communicate in English. I speak English perfectly well and I love it, I talked to my children in English, but when I see a hispanic person I love to talk in Spanish, the language of the angels. My daughter speaks not only English, but Spanish, German & French fluently. My son speaks a little Spanish and a little Chinese mandarin. You don't need to be intimidated with languages.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 9:45:00 AM

    You said it. You're the garbage this series talks about. But justice prevails, and it does not matter that you don't believe in reincarnation, the fact is that you will be an illegal Mexican on your next life! Be ready to reap with you sow.

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 8:35:00 AM

    Good article. Hidden agenda is actually to diminish freedom on ANYBODY. American citizens are not going to like it when it happen to their children, but they're desperately asking for it. They're asking to take away the freedom everybody enjoys today, until they make other new laws to forbid the american citizens to travel to other U.S. cities without the permits from the government, it's heading that way with the blessing of the american people. People don't seem to like to be FREE anymore, they prefer to be asked for their proof of citizenship and to be followed by police to their home if they only brought their driver's license with them. What's going on?? PEOPLE DON'T WANT A FREE COUNTRY ANYMORE!!!

  • Yolanda Miranda 08/22/2010 7:55:00 AM

    To: carl roberto: It's obvious you didn't finish reading the article. The officers were not happy with just an ID, they followed the 17 year old to home to see the proof of citizenship, do you really want that to happen to your child in the future?? It's all about taking away freedom from any American citizen, the way its going, later on they will invent new laws to forbid american citizens from fraveling to other cities without the approval of the government, and people wanting the stupid laws don't even notice that.

  • Foomoni 08/21/2010 5:41:00 AM

    As someone who lived abroad in the U.K. and fulfilled all requirements to live and work there, I whole heartidly agree with taking the necessary steps to become a citizen or getting some sort of work visa. It was time consuming and expensive and the right thing to do. The process required that we leave the country if ever we were unable to provide for ourselves, of course recieving or taking benefits from a country you are not a citizen of really does seem inherently wrong, but...and I understand the names I will be called for this, or how unpopular it is to have empathy or compassion these days ( so not cool here anymore eh?)...I know I will be labled a bleeding heart liberal, etc...( which I'm not, I have other views that conflict with that theory)... You came from New Zealand, not exactly as drug war ravaged, not so much corruption, not without the oppurtunity to do something with your life because of the drug wars and corruption right? The majority of the people who illegally enter our country risk their lives and loss of loved ones to escape the corruption and unending poverty they were born into...they want a small piece of what we have, freedom, employment, a house ....they want this more so for their children...I don't believe the way they go about it is right , I don't believe they should expect concessions such as spanish speaking options for everything anymore ( you want to live in or work in another country, maintain your own language at home,but respect the language and culture you want to live in, I did)..I don't believe they should come here and recieve government aid from a country whose government is not theirs..etc..But please understand these are human beings who want a better life... Of course there are criminals within the illegal immigrant population, there are criminals of every nationality color and culture, We rather focus on their crimes lately... I just ask for practical and positive solutions based on the real issues here, Everything that has been done has not worked, and nothing being suggested will not in the long run either, people rarely fail to want to thrive . P.S., Did you marry for the sole purpose of the green card because you rather make it sound like you earned it by doing your time there.

  • 08/21/2010 1:05:00 AM

    As usual more Liberal Rubish from the NEW TIMES

  • 08/21/2010 1:05:00 AM

    As usual more liberal rubish from the New Times.

  • Jomo 08/19/2010 9:27:00 PM

    "This place is so bloated with rednecks" It is obvious the writer is using redneck as a derogatory slang term for poor white citizens or anyone who agrees with them. He tosses it around like a safe racist slur. His statement suggests that these people people are inherently stupid and ignorant. The question one would have to ask is why does the writer think these people share stupidity (which cannot be corrected) as an inherent trait? His use or redneck suggests only two common factors, economic class and race. I doubt he is saying all poor people are stupid and ignorant. If so that would include poor minorities, including many (both legal and illegal) immigrants. The only other factor left is race. Perhaps the writer should preface his commentary by saying he thinks it is ok to be a racist, as long as you agree with him.

  • Rtphx2008 08/19/2010 8:04:00 AM

    Dear Sir, I am a cracker. Will you not admit that all whites are not at fault. Many things that you have commented on is a fact. But sir let me assure you there are a lot of people from many races that are at odds. Starting back to the first time people from other countries had to register as soon as they got off the boat. And then get their citizenship legaly.. Not all people are against you or the hard working American Mexicans who are legal and natives of the country. I do feel that to all those who have come to America and did it honorably in the way that millions have done. People undocumented who are getting and receiving free medical, housing, education, food. etc. from the legal taxpayers when the country is going broke and with elderly of all colors who are widowed, on S.S. which puts them in a state that they cann't get the meds they need or proper nutrition. When they worked all of their adult life to only have their benefits cut because Washington and The Fifty States are going under from People here ILLEGALLY. Where Is the Justice in that!!!!!!!!! What is your thoughts on what should be done to stop they just plain Evil Coyotes who kidnap, rape and traffic people many who die.....Please Think and Not put ALL whites on your Hit list when trying to Discriminate against us, in the way you say we are doing to you. Whites are becomming a minority in many many places in the USA.

  • Anavi4u2c 08/16/2010 10:44:00 AM

    Your filthy vernacular is enough to turn me off from reading this piece of wisdom; not neccesary. And, do you think the children fo these illegals will want to become citizens and pay taxes? Why should they? Look at the welfare system--generations of freeloaders...illegal does not breed legal, moron!

  • 08/15/2010 3:12:00 PM

    You are sure one hateful jerk. You don't know a damn thing about Mexico except the hate coming out of the rightwing which we all know is manufactured just for the pea brained they count on to keep bringing them back to repeat their stick it to you act again and again, hell they kicked your ass for the eight years of the Bush/Cheney criminal conspiracy and you fools are falling all over yourselves to bring them back for more. You dimwits wouldn't know truth if it walked up and shook your hand because Glenn Beck has already filled you in on it all hasn't he? What sad, sad examples of humanity you are!

  • Globite 08/15/2010 2:09:00 PM

    Thank you for your eloquent comment...it's so refreshing!!

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 7:07:00 AM

    Wow..you really put a face on the "use of someone else's ID." I hope there is some justice for you and your wife. If someone reads your story and still sides with the illegals and their related activity, I doubt their sanity. Let's hope for some stability in our lives,especially in an economy like this... A law is a law, and victims should have rights and be respected and treated fairly.

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 6:53:00 AM

    Yes, I live near the border, in a cotton farming community and there is no way I could get a job farming it's 80 to 90 % hispanic. Are they legal..? Most are probabally not. I do know for a fact their is a Mexican National that lives down the road that gets large sums of money from Mexico and buys property right and left, he has several rental properties and only rents to other illegals. It's just odd the biggest owner of land in the area is not even an American citizen. Ironic.. I have a small landscaping home improvement business and the only way I can get jobs is to keep prices low (10 bucks an hour) There are several hispanic companies in the area. Once in a while someone will whisper, I hired you because I can speak English..Lucky me. I'd like to see if this new immigration policy will give me an opportunity to try my hand farming. Right now I am definitely being discrimanted against. We'll see what the future holds..About time the Feds did something about, illegal migration, it's has been a problem since the 1970's.

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 6:31:00 AM

    You have a good point there. Guarding the border now appears to be an after thought.. Looks like they might all be here already...Oh and that would be something to fine the illegal the cost of their own deportation. Or the country of origin..now there is a thought. Send the payment due notice on every individual to the capital of thier country. Then it doesn't cost the taxpayer even more money..

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 6:25:00 AM

    Agreed..McSame is a"Hawk" it's what he knows..military bow-wow, roof-roof. He's 20th century. He's the past..He tried to appear modern by selecting Palin. Can you image that lame brain with the nuclear codes. WOW! If there is any young people reading this post..value your future, putting Republicans into office is a mistake, well unless you're rich or a corporation. Vote your conscience, but vote..

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 6:08:00 AM

    You tell 'em AZfirst..I couldn't have phrased it better myself. Alittle lesson in history and political insight. I liked your scholarly opinion. Thank-you for the clarity.

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 6:05:00 AM

    Not happy? Ever consider the option of relocating back to where you come from? I know I'd be happier if you were not here..

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 5:56:00 AM

    I too am completed surprised at the media in general; Arizona Republic, ect. that tend to side with the illegals. Like you couldn't you the term anchor baby at azcentral.com it was deemed inappropriate..As a society, it is in our best interest not to have 10 to 12 million illegals being a burden on the social services system and not paying taxes and using fake SS# and on and on... Just amazing! That's quite a number....They claim deportation is not financially sensible. I curious what your opinion is, well, is you're still online.

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 5:45:00 AM

    Yes, every race is ethocentric, believing theirs is the best culture. But I know my generation didn't have anything to do with bring slaves here,ect. So give it a rest..

  • Mrhinkle 08/14/2010 5:39:00 AM

    Yes, you certain got the analogy right. If any American moved to Mexico without papers there would be hell to pay. Imagine if they applied for welfare? Ha! I still can't see that people are against SB1070. It's actually in all taxpayers best interest to not have a segment of the population, not contributing to the overall maintainance of social services. Good to read your level-headed comments.

  • Reason 08/11/2010 5:36:00 PM

    Amnesty? Why should they get a free pass? Unless amnesty is extended to everyone for any crime, they're actually getting PREFERENTIAL treatment in the eyes of the law. Now you want to REWARD criminals. WTF is wrong with you? What happened to the American concept of equality?

  • Kiwi 08/10/2010 7:20:00 PM

    Get a bloody green card ,I had to get one and I am From New Zealand just because you can walk over the border does-en,t give you a right to stay here ,I was married to a US Citizen for 14 years prior to getting a green card to be able to work here ,so if your from Mexico go through the system legally right.

  • silverado7 08/10/2010 7:11:00 PM

    What happened on July 31st at the capital, where a group of hispanics laid an American flag, and a state of Arizona flag out on the ground, spraypainted graffiti, laid a toilet seat and toilet paper, on the American flag, says pretty much everything that needs to be said. These peices of shit , that call themselves "La Raza" don't belong here and eventually they will push it to far. And to Jim Byron, you really need to move out of your moms house and get a job dude, what has it been, ten years since you graduated!

  • mike b 08/10/2010 2:04:00 AM

    not get out but do it right. votes should not be either parties adgenda only what the current laws are. do it right mr president congress. make it a felony to hire illegals and they will go home voluntarily and do it right. america cannot afford any more nonsense

  • Jim Byron 08/09/2010 4:19:00 PM

    I just finished reading “Get Out” (Michael Lacey, July 29). Great caricature of the intellectually challenged Jan “Governor-by-accident” Jan Brewer, by the way. Anyway, I couldn’t agree with the author more. His message that the rednecks in Arizona should just go fuck themselves was made most elegantly. So much bullshit is coming from the right that I’m choking on it. Despite what these racist ignoramuses say, we need sane immigration reform, not this enforcement-only approach that the federal government has half-ass taken. Guys, it ain’t fucking working! There has to be amnesty for hard-working, smart, contributing-to-the-system Mexican immigrants. The DREAM act, allowing the brightest and most patriotic Latino youth to become citizens, must be realized. What is it anyway with the right-wing retards that they won’t even let young people who are willing to get shot at in Iraq, young people who can become doctors and engineers, to stay in this country. Fools, you are not helping our nation with your racism against these smart, educated, patriotic young people who were brought here by their parents when they were children. I see the lying-sack-of-shit John McCain going against what used to be his principles and acting like a cracker motherfucker. Here he is on his TV commercials, wearing a silly cap and acting like he’s just one of the stupid sods who hate Mexicans. I used to have respect for him, but he’s nothing but sellout, trying to out-knee-jerk J.D. Hayworth. I digress. Something must be done. And I’m happy U.S. District Judge Susan R. Bolton had the cajones to at least throw out crucial parts of Arizona Senate Bill 1070, one of the worst laws ever written. One final note: there never would’ve been a 1070 if the federal government hadn’t abandoned Arizona and other border states to peckerwoods like [1070 author and state Senator] Ruissell Pearce. Rational policies should’ve been in place so there would’ve been no need for the likes of him.

  • silverado7 08/06/2010 11:42:00 PM

    PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THIS IS DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS, PUTTING WORKING AMERICAN CITIZENS OUT ON THE STREETS, EVEN IF YOUR A DEMOCRAT, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THIS. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE HAVE TO PUT AWAY OUR IDEALOGICAL DIFFERENCES, AND STAND TOGETHER AGAINST A COMMON THREAT TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. IF THIS GOES THROUGH, HALF OF AMERICA WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS TO FOREIGNERS. What the ‘Amnesty Memo’ Means By Rosemary Jenks, Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 9:00 AM EDT - posted on NumbersUSA Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker Nancy Pelosi are facing a dilemma: Although they publicly bemoan the fact that Republicans won’t help them pass an unpopular amnesty . . . er, comprehensive immigration-reform bill, they don’t want to force vulnerable Democrats to vote on amnesty this close to the November elections — especially not with unemployment at 9.5 percent. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) may have uncovered the answer to their dilemma last week: an internal U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services memo that outlines steps the Obama administration can take “in the absence of Comprehensive Immigration Reform” — that is, lawfully enacted amnesty — to “reduce the threat of removal for certain individuals present in the United States without authorization.” The four authors of the memo, titled “Administrative Alternatives to Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” are political appointees USCIS chief of policy and strategy Denise Vanison (a former immigration attorney and partner at Patton Boggs) and USCIS chief counsel Roxana Bacon (former general counsel for the American Immigration Lawyers Association), and two career employees of USCIS director Alejandro Mayorkas, another Obama appointee. The U.S. Constitution gives Congress — and only Congress — the authority to decide federal immigration law, but the Obama administration has come up with an extensive list of ways to ensure that a majority of the illegal aliens in the United States are allowed to remain here. Here are just three examples of the outrageous proposals in the memo: •USCIS could grant “parole-in-place,” which comes with a work permit and the ability to obtain a green card, to certain classes of aliens who entered the country illegally. Such classes would include those who entered as minors and those who “have lived for many years in the U.S.” A nice reward for those who have successfully violated the law for the longest period of time. •For those who overstay their visas, the memo recommends granting “deferred action,” which means that deportation is deferred indefinitely and the illegal alien can apply for a work permit. The memo suggests two particular categories of illegal aliens for deferred action: those who might benefit if Congress were to pass the DREAM Act amnesty (of which there are 2.1 million, according to the Migration Policy Institute) and those “who have resided in the U.S. since 1996 (or as of a different date designed to move forward the Registry provision now limited to entries before January 1, 1972).” The “Registry provision” referred to is an actual federal law, not that it matters to the memo’s authors. •To make sure no illegal alien is left behind, the memo suggests that DHS could simply stop issuing “Notices to Appear” (the document that starts the removal process for illegal aliens) unless the alien has a “significant negative immigration or criminal history.” Apparently, violating immigration law once or twice is acceptable. These folks wouldn’t be able to apply for a work permit, but since the Obama administration isn’t conducting worksite enforcement against illegal aliens much anymore, that shouldn’t matter. No wonder Reid, Pelosi, and Obama seem content to avoid a legislative battle over immigration; the Department of Homeland Security is hard at work on ways to implement its own amnesty. Blog originally posted on National Review Online ROSEMARY JENKS is the Director of Government Relations for NumbersUSA NumbersUSA's blogs are copyrighted and may be republished or reposted only if they are copied in their entirety, including this paragraph, and provide proper credit to NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA bears no responsibility for where our blogs may be republished or reposted. Views and opinions expressed in blogs on this website are those of the author. They do not necessarily reflect official policies of NumbersUSA. Subscribe to our Blog Feed

  • Rlbncwk 08/06/2010 2:42:00 AM

    The country was new then and immigration was good for America...do you think its good for America now...do you think the well is bottomless...my God can anyone be that blind...look around, its not like it was in the 1900's. "

  • Rlbncwk 08/06/2010 2:32:00 AM

    love you Joe...You stand up for America...U be careful out there

  • carl roberto 08/06/2010 1:49:00 AM

    Agree,I commend Jan Brewer also for having the guts to put this law into effect, This is a federal crime to be in this country yet the federal government will not let us in Arizona uphold the federal law What gives? All the crap about racial profiling, how come now when an illegal gets pulled over and asked for ID or something that proves they belong here, its automatically RACIAL profiling thats B.S when i get pulled over and asked for ID i see it as the police doin thier job thats all. Bottom line is: you are breaking a federal law by being here illegally, Get legal the proper way or go home where you are legal and quit with the excuses of racial profiling and poor downtrodden illegals and do whats right get legal or get out

  • Dan Bjerke 08/06/2010 12:38:00 AM

    Dear Michael, I currently just read your article in phx Newtimes and I have to disagree with your assessment of sb1070 and of our past immigrants. In the early 1800's and again a hundred years later; the immigrants who came then, came to become Americans and become part of the American culture. They left families behind in search of work and freedom, then when able paid for their families to follow; to become American citizens. No matter where they came from their first priority was to learn english and learn American customs and ways. They did this so they could get work and fit in and to become citizens of America. Sure you can dig anything up from the past or present and color it the way you want. SB 1070 is against ANY illegal in Arizona not just Mexicans as you depicted, but as it happens the majority here illegally are from Mexico and other central and south American countries or as you refer to them as brown peoples. I am against illegal immigration but not against legal immigration. Did you even try to find legal (mexican heritage) immigrants who agree with SB1070, or do you think all Mexicans are against the bill?? Your words are hollow and below the belt. Sure there are bad cops out their, they are in every state. But I believe the majority of law enforcement in Arizona do follow the laws to a "T." And furthermore, I find nothing wrong with someone who's not a citizen to carry proof that they can be here, if a situation arrises where they need to prove that they are here legally. Furthermore, I resent being labeled a hillbilly/cracker. I follow the law and whenever pulled over have to show ID as well, yes I'm white but I still have to show my ID, so why not make a state card that proves they are here legally, could be a mark on a license or an extra card they carry. SB 1070 is a way to stop illegal immigration from happening; you ever read Mexicos illegal immigration laws? Why then can we not do the same. There are over 40million illegals in the USA. That's a lot of jobs that I know any American would work with the economy being so bed. In closing, I find that your article was wrong and way out of context. So, try moving to Mexico. Go ahead sneak across the border (if the cartels don't get to you first or the federales) and try and find a job there. It won't happen because they will put you in jail or you will be sent back or even killed. Remember its a federal crime to be here illegally. Yet the government won't do anything to stop it, why, because they need the votes to push their anti-capitalism/America agenda through. I praise Jan Brewer for having the gall to defend her state and the citizens within its borders. Sincerely, Dan Bjerke

  • voiceof13 08/06/2010 12:37:00 AM

    ANYTHING DONE WITH THIS ILLEGAL IMMAGRATION LAW IS WRONG BEACUASE SERIOUSLY I HEARD THAT THIS ONE ILLEGAL GOT DEPEORTED AND CAME BACK A WEEK L8R, BUT YU DO HAVE TO REMEMBER THEIR HUMAN BEINGS AND THEY SHOULD B TREATED EQAUL THEY SHOULDNT B TREATED LIKE ANIMALSS. BUT I KNO SUMONE WHO'S HAD THEIR IDENTITY AND SOCIAL NUMBERSTOLEN BY AN ILLEGALL, I DNT C HOW ILEEGALS FILE TAXES WITH NO SOCIAL NUMBER SOMETHINGS RONGG..... THERE IS NO RITE WAY TO DEAL W THISISSUE NO JUSTICE WILL BE SOLVED TILL A GENIUS COMES UP WITH A LAW THAT'S FAIR AND BALID AND THAT GENIUS ISNT JAN BREWER. THANKS 4 YUR TIME, AND EMAIL ME BACK AT chantelgonzaless@yahoo.com thank yu((: o know im just a kid but i have a opinion and a voice plz dnt use my name in anything id like to b knowen as voiceof13

  • Jarrod Reger 08/06/2010 12:36:00 AM

    Mr. Lacey: I just finished your piece in the New Times entitled "Get Out". More than once during this painful read did i set the paper down and laugh out loud at the misinformation you so proudly provide. This is the kind of ignorant bias fed down our throats by you bleeding heart liberal illegal immigrant supporters. Next time do your homework on how many millions of dollars AZ taxpayers shell out each year to pay for benefits we don't qualify for, and then maybe you will understand why illegals don't belong here. Mucho

  • ERROL SHIFMAN 08/06/2010 12:35:00 AM

    You probably consider yourself an intellectual and in order to try and make your plea for poor, downtrodden LEGAL Mexican immigrants and against an improper state immigration law, your response to "What part of "illegal" don't you understand? is simply "Why, none of it, sir. None of it all all." Don't want the facts and law to get in the way of a good tear jerking piece huh? Have you ever considered that you might gain some credibility by dealing with issues like facts and law head on? let me guess, you were one of those little kids that put their hands over their ears and shouted "la la la la la" when someone said something you didn't like. Of course you're still doing it. That b.s. "none of it, sir" line is just that. Perhaps you haven't heard the example of the guy who leaves for work in the morning only to come home and fine his house broken into. The inside of the house has been cleaned and painted, the broken disposal fixed, the lawn mowed and dinner is waiting on the table. he finds who broke into his house and says I'm calling the police. The intruder says but look at all the nice things I did for you. Bottom line: He broke into the guys house. Yes, something has to be done to try and let the "illegals" make amends, a fine perhaps, paying back taxes, paying current taxes etc. Which the majority won't do. And because our country is based on laws and government, yes it is the politicians and not the magazine writers who will fix the problem. As soon as the rule of law can be put aside with "sorry, I don't understand" (which is why by the way that ignorance of the law is not a defense in this country) you won't even be able to write your column. Have the guts to respond? ERROL SHIFMAN Cell (480) 326-4627

  • Rlbncwk 08/05/2010 10:26:00 PM

    I like what you say...You sound like someone who is proud to be a part of this great Country...you get what its all about. I love you ;)

  • Rlbncwk 08/05/2010 10:20:00 PM

    The Japanese were rounded up in WWS as you say because THE WHOLE WEST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES WAS VULNERABLE TO ATTACK YOU MORON...DIDN'T YOU HEAR ABOUT THE JAPANESE ATTACKING PEARLY HARBOR..NO MORON, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE PEARLS ARE MADE. THERE ARE ABANDON GUN TURRETS AROUND LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO TO THIS DAY. Oh gee...sorry about moving the thousands of people who some possibly been here to hurt Americans. If we went to war with Mexico..u think we could trust all Mexican people to be loyal to the USA...of course not.

  • Rlbncwk 08/05/2010 10:13:00 PM

    and incidently, get YOUR history right...it was the Spanish and the Portugese that brought Africans to the country's of France and the UK and Germany..so Spainsh ancestory has blood on its own hands as well least we forget the indiginous populations of Mexico and central America and how the Spanish slaughtered them. Seems to me there is enough blood to go around.

  • Sarum 08/05/2010 10:11:00 PM

    Judge Susan Bolton ruled illegally: http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d31-Explosive-new-evidence-shows-ruling-of-AZ-judge-illegal Even the US Attorney General Eric Holder is Ignorant of the Constitution. He FILED THE CASE IN THE WRONG COURT!: http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/

  • Rlbncwk 08/05/2010 9:56:00 PM

    another thing...Native Americans were still dragging there stuff around on sticks..thats after occupying North America for at least 5000 years. Oh gee sorry, some other civilization comes along and plows them under...gee what a surprise. Another thing...do you have any idea how may wars white people fought between themselves before they even knew there were people of different color.....ITS ABOUT MAJORITY VS MINORITY and the majority rules. I have seen discrimination in every color where a majority rules...get with a little bit of history here and stop blaming people of color or the lack there of. You know, Mexico called itself "United States of Mexico" at one time. Had a constitution much like the USA's...thats until Santa Ana came along and decided to wipe his butt with it. Mexico lost Cal, Tx, Az and NM in a war. and the USA even paid for TX...millions of dollars for barren waste land which is what it still would be if Mexico had it...look at the Baja...wasteland..oh yeah, i forgot Cobo. Wonder what the Baja would be like if the USA had decided it wanted that too...a huge mega vacation resort from tip to toe, making billions and billions of dollars every year. Shame on you for turning not against white people but for loosing your respect for your country. Why don't i ever EVER see Mexicans standing up for a country that half the world is trying to get into? It's Mexicans have made this a racial issue...no one is talking about getting ride of Mexicans...what a stupid thing to say...its the ILLEGALS...I want them to pay .30 cents on every dollar they make to Uncle Sam. If Mexican have the crummy jobs its because they have done nothing to get the better ones.

  • Rlbncwk 08/05/2010 9:43:00 PM

    Why are you making it an issue of color when it isn't. It's majority vs the minority. White South Africa is the ONLY county I can think of where the minority ruled and that is long gone. Do you think it should be a minority rule?. Ha..your so stupid...without the WHITE majority little minorities would war themselves out of existence. History has shown this time and time again. With all the faults that this majority are guilty of can you name me any other country that has done more to at least TRY and right its wrongs? It's about the majority stupid not the color..GET IT. probably not. I would love to live long enough to see a minority become the majority(be they black,brown,yellow or red) and see how well they do by minorities. Probably not very well.

  • Freeup41 08/05/2010 9:09:00 PM

    I have recently been working on my family tree and found 100% of my family migrated here from Switzerland, Germany and England. My husbands family from Mexico. Just in my family as many Americans need to reflect on is. " Who was here first?" It certainly wasn't my family.. Native Americans and Mexican people were already here. What gives White Americans the right to keep pushing their white ways generation after generations. Get the history right. It was white people who forced Africans here as slaves, booted the Native Americans off their land and drove Mexicans to small parts of land. What about how the Chinese were made to work on the railroads and the Japanese were rounded up in WW2 and why? "Their eyes weren't round"Whites feared what they can't control! I say it's time for all people of color to stand united againest the raciest people who continue to think White is the right color. I am totally ashamed of White America! Oh yes I am White and wish I wasn't! The laws should protect all people!

  • AZfirst 08/05/2010 6:30:00 AM

    My heart is bleeding right now... No one asked them nor were they invited to slave those long hours your supposing! And so you know it costs americans $19,000 more per illegal then they contibute due to having to pay their medical, prison, education, and public service costs! Your misdirection doesn't detract from the real truth that they cost more then they contribute so stop miss lying and of course Marcelo Suarez Orozco would say it will shore up Social Secruity.... Notice the name? Hello!!!!

  • KNOK 08/05/2010 6:15:00 AM

    Educated? HAHAHAHA! Why don't you take your educated weasle behind to cuba, venezuela and see how global that is! Better yet why don't you go to Iran or n. korea educated boy and see how cold reality really is and what those people think of your "big wheel" theory. What a joke educated... that is about the biggest knee slapper on this blog! BTW your name says it all "GOAT"

  • AZfirst 08/05/2010 6:06:00 AM

    Your an idot! LOL you don't like it here go back to the EAST INDIE'S where you'd be treated worse! I'm native american and my people have suffered more then any east indain will ever in america and I'm not complaining! Stop blaming white people for everything, I'm pretty sure a hillbilly would be treated worse in your native country dummy! Oh and we don't need your little history lesson on WWII as though you were there! Which by the way none of your people were apart of! Since were on the subject of human rights why don't we talk about the east indie's shall we? hmmm like ohhh I don't know the Kashmir region or Burma... Ring a bell? Please don't be giving lectures on racism or discrimination when the people you come from are 1000 times worse, mass slaughter's, beheadings etc.! And the worse you've delt with is a hillbilly? Give me a break! Enforcing the law is not a crime so make sure you got your id card so your not "discrimated" against and stop the whinning please!

  • bishop 08/04/2010 11:38:00 PM

    YOU MUST BE HIGH

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 11:08:00 PM

    EXACTLY! Come on down to Phoenix and see what happens when illegals get behind the wheel. no drivers license, no insurance, no registration... no previous experience driving and whamo - you are in deep doo doo when they smack into you. I am sure people who live in other states would love to move here and experience this...

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 11:01:00 PM

    no my friend it is you who has the facts wrong. illegal immigration is is clearly supported by liberals and democrats... they want the brown vote. if you can not see that you are the dimmest of all.

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 10:57:00 PM

    damn right!

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 10:52:00 PM

    i will be happy to explain why we do not treat illegals the same way mexico treats theirs.... the democrats, socialists and liberals need a voter base and both parties want NEW TAX PAYERS so they can continue to spend unchecked. it is really that simple but you will not hear the media explain it that way. the feds don't care because it is the states who pick up the tab. when we go broke... it seems to get everyone's attention.

  • Hithere 08/04/2010 9:35:00 PM

    Well... LA boycotted AZ for the immigration law... now i'm boycotting yahoo for ever after being a loyal fan since the day it opened up. This article has been on the front page of yahoo for close to a week and it shows me they are not supporting what's good for the financial well being of my state. So adios Amigos. I'll be getting rid of my yahoo email now.

  • Hilnbill 08/04/2010 9:20:00 PM

    I'm a proud hillbilly are you a dot head?

  • Hilndbill 08/04/2010 9:16:00 PM

    I have your injustice ready for you. These people break the law. Without law and order you have anarchy. I have Hispanic in my family we want lawful immigration. I am a lawful immigrant and nothing but lawful entry is acceptable. We will fight you lawbreakers to the end

  • Rancheraz 08/04/2010 9:03:00 PM

    Truly this article is about the injustice surrounding illegal persons. I find it interesting that the author believes that it is my repsonsibility to support people from another country with free medical, free housing, free education, etc., and making them follow our laws to become citizens. The state of Arizona did a srudy 4 - 5 years ago and identified that 46 cents out of every tax dollar is used to support illegal aliens. Why can't we treat them just like they would treat us in Mexico, or China, or the Phillipines, or India, or Korea or any of the other nations represented here. Nowehere does it state that we have to support the world and if you know it, we can not. This country has a real financial crisis that is being smoothed over. Please realize that I firmly believe in diversity, legal diversity as we all have agreed to in our legislation. It is a real insult to legal citizens to try to slide these people in. They can follw the same path as other legal citizens have followed and all of us together can build a better United States. Speaking Spainish or Chinese and ignoring English precludes learning and growing. No other language allow for personal expression is as few of words allowing us to communicate at a higher level. This is our society, our country, and our land. If they just want to pillage and rape the good stuff off the top, it hurts all citiznes. It is time to respect the people who have spent the time to become legal citizens and stop people like this author! Besides trying to fuel the fire, obviscation is the primary goal, fear and misrepresentation are right behind. Lets celebrate America by honoring citizens and realize that we have to repair a situation where Obama is just trying to buy votes by sliding these people in. This is really just the tip of the iceberg, if you think taxes are high now, if Obama gets to slide this in and through, the roof will come off! Hopefully you will think about this logically, hate is merely fear with a mask to prevent logical and rationale thinking. Thinking is the only thing that will help us all.

  • Samuraigoat 08/04/2010 9:03:00 PM

    Wow! It pays to be educated! This world is global and all of us spokes to the "Big Wheel." I am caucasion but my hat is off to the Mexicans' legal or not. I suppose with change is pain but this issue should never exist in our past or present. Reality is cold sometimes but I agree with the article and we should all yell "ONE LOVE!!!"

  • Lovbrother 08/04/2010 8:42:00 PM

    Krishnsj should move to Canada they have so many East Indian's up there you would be able to blend right in..just ask for your $5K and a 7/11 franchise when you cross the boarder. We should all use Canada as an example of how to water down your culture by letting the bleeding hearts run the show

  • Krishnsj 08/04/2010 8:15:00 PM

    I whole heartedly agree with this article. I have lived in Phoenix for the past 5 years, lived here my whole life and I am a U.S. citizen, but I am East Indian, commonly mistakened for Latino by hillbillies in Arizona, and the racism and traffic stops and physical violence I have suffered at the hand of law enforcement here has been unimaginable. And for what, for existing. None of the incidents was I doing anything wrong or illegal, not once was I issued a citation. Just big kids abusing their badges. It's amusing to me to see on television how white folk say that racism doesn't exist in America anymore. I think you forgot to send the memo to all your hillbilly brethren. Ignorance of evil is no exucse for passivity, ask all the survivors of WWII and how ignorance on America's part lead to Pearl Harbor and finally the U.S. took action! I forgot, ethnic studies is illegal here to so you probably missed that chapter in high school too! No wonder we cannot solve simple problems anymore and be the leader and role model to the world, when we are carrying so many white dimwits who feel entitled to be treated superiorly without having done anything but exit out of their mother's birth canal with the right skin color, at the right time and the right place. Bravo for you! What have you done for me lately?

  • gap-toothed-hillbilly 08/04/2010 8:00:00 PM

    Very well stated. I believe everyone looking or dealing with this column must only read one response and it is this gentlemans. Hands down best response yet.

  • Jammasterjim 08/04/2010 7:54:00 PM

    I really LIKE all your WORDS IN CAPS for emphasis. ILLEGAL.

  • Edelorenzo 08/04/2010 7:37:00 PM

    Real fair and balanced news report. The most dangerious sections of the bill WERE PUT ON PAUSE is how it is put by writer Michael Lacey. Can you see why most people do not trust the news media as they do not report news but their own beliefs. Way to go MIKE!

  • Arpaio 08/04/2010 7:13:00 PM

    This is a garbage series!

  • almost normal 08/04/2010 7:06:00 PM

    This is so far to the left you need to be from DC to follow the fairy tale story

  • Texasbeta 08/04/2010 7:02:00 PM

    Actually, you need to get your facts straight. This was NEVER voted on. No public vote was involved. Secondly, just because people want something to happen, doesn't mean it is legal. That is where the Constitutionality of things comes into questions. Popularity of an idea does not justify its enacting. It is called "mob rule", and is discussed extensively in the Federalist papers. Finally, liberals do not support this. Thinking people do not support this either. You are ill informed or a flat out liar.

  • Bonheur 08/04/2010 7:01:00 PM

    I'm so glad ILLEGALS are being treated the way the deserve to be. Let Mexico create jobs for their OWN people, and stop acting with such disgusting ENTITLEMENT.

  • 08/04/2010 5:40:00 PM

    America DID vote. That is what this entire fight is about. One justice, who has been openly accused of pushing an agenda, went against the will of the entire country. The only people who are really against this are illegals and their families. Even the Liberal news is supporting this law and other states are already doing it.

  • 08/04/2010 5:37:00 PM

    I love it! Keep up the good work, Joe!

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 5:13:00 PM

    i think you really mean 'what happened to the land of the FREE LUNCH'? and the answer is america went broke from handing out your free lunches. go home and get a free lunch.

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 5:10:00 PM

    i say they owe us those taxes and much more.... you are very mis-informed if you think the taxes illegals pay in EVEN COMES CLOSE to what WE PAY OUT for their housing, food stamps, health care.... and do not forget all the classrooms in CA and AZ that are taught in Spanish, etc., etc. In fact the reason they do not get the tax money back from the govt is because they steal someones identity in the first place. It happened to my brother in law... and guess what... he did not get a return that year and his kids did without. You speak of fairness...? You need to keep your opinions to yourself until you become more educated on the issues... try moving to Phoenix then talk to us. I live in Phx. I was laid off last Nov. I received 900 per month unemployment. Half of that went to my daughters' Mom for child support. So I was living off of 450 per month. I went to DES to apply for healthcare for me and my daughter... but I made too much so I was denied. All the while I sat in the lobby of DES watching the illegals get their healthcare and food stamps.... isn't that special? What a system... deny the guy who pays in all his life when he needs REAL help so the illegals can have it all.

  • Ozzylvr 08/04/2010 5:07:00 PM

    I LOVE YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT!!!!!! I SO AGREE WITH YOU AND YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!

  • Moldytwig 08/04/2010 5:03:00 PM

    This guy is right. They are not scared of the racial profiling as much as they are the end of a free ride. Go ahead illegals - suck us dry and guess what is coming now that you have.... Our government is failing. Medicaid and Medicare will FAIL. Capitalism will suffer. Obama care will fail. Next society will fail and war will be the new NORM. GET READY! Good luck finding a free lunch when America tumbles under the weight of the ignorant liberals and their free-loading illegals.

  • nowayjose 08/04/2010 5:03:00 PM

    To the "Mexican American". Why must you say "Mexican American"? It's AMERICAN!! Thank heaven's for the seperation of Church & State. I would love to help everyone that needs a hand, but guess what?? the Land of the Free is BROKE!! As for the weapons & drugs, I thought about it, and I came up with Mexican American. Have a nice day.

  • Ozzylvr 08/04/2010 5:02:00 PM

    DO YOU KNOW WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS? LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!! STUPID!!!!!!!!!

  • Ozzylvr 08/04/2010 5:00:00 PM

    YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ILLEGALS CAN GO TO HELL ALONG WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!

  • Ozzylvr 08/04/2010 4:57:00 PM

    I LOVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I CANT BELIEVE AMERICANS TURNING THEIR BACKS TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY BY SUPPORTING ALL THESE ILLEGALS. I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO SB1070!!!!!!!!!!

  • John Wutt 08/04/2010 3:35:00 PM

    why dont people understand that if you are here illegally, by boat,by plane or by foot. You do not have the rights as a citizen. You cant get food stamps, medical,vote,and have any rights a citizen does have who is legally here. Its not color of your skin, it is the law. I am sad that mexico does not treat there own people well.and that they have to come here to live a better life and what really makes me mad is when they get here they start popping out kids left and right,then start crying that there family is being broke apart because of the illegal persons not being citizens. If you have a problem with this then bitch at the government for there process of citizenship and change this so we all can live as one. I am very tired of the non citizens crying racial profiling. Go through the process of being legal like my family did in the 1800s Then maybe you have a right to complain. otherwise go home.

  • Hithere 08/04/2010 2:02:00 PM

    Why is this crap still on yahoo's front page? It's been there for almost a week.

  • Eddie 08/04/2010 1:48:00 PM

    This article is impossible to read. What is this guy on. The train of thought just keeps jumping and it is hard to understand the real point. Good job on the edginess' you are really cool!

  • Modkulla 08/04/2010 1:24:00 PM

    Yes yes yes yes yes, The truth at last, I agree, there may be some wrong doings by officers such as shooting unarmed black men 20 or more times, and we are LEGAL so they scared to be stopped like the previous person stated, we cannot go to Mexico and get a free ride home, go there and change your country you have the resources and certainly the MANPOWER, oh I forgot the rich American companies moved there to give you jobs to keep you there, what a Fu....... Joke that is Here is the answer, Americans Vote their Laws in"Right" well most anyway so let all 50 states vote on this and if the majority wants the law, so be it its only fair Point is if Mexican government was not so corrupt, they have the resources to be self sufficient, so lets just invade them like Iraq to save them from their "unfair government" and mistreatment of their people. Speaking from personal experience, I was laid off my job, I have put in 40 years of work here in America, I have unemployment check of 265 a week, this over qualifies me for medical help, The same damn help, I helped finance through my paying of taxes, I have no health care while my illegal neighbor has kids by the dozen financed by my hard work and free medical care, hell if I made 5.00 and hour and everything else was free, food stamps etc, my wage would be equivalent to a hell of a lot more than 5.00 an hour. Yes lets Vote on this , see how surprised the ass-holes would be, Like all laws there are discrepancies, we live with that fact that there will be law abuse for lack of better words, no they are afraid of the truth, no free ride any more, that is what is scaring them, if they used that money they send to Mexico to get more of them here the ones here would pursue citizenship as they should, Public are you dumb enough to think that the people in Mexico can spend 3 thousand or more for a coyote, no that is American money sent back for family relatives. If they really want to be here use that money to get citizenship instead of telling the relatives to come here and get pregnant suck more free stuff out of us who work for you and cant get health care and every hospital in Phoenix is overrun with (just go look, I do not have to say it) freeloaders

  • Jinny 08/04/2010 7:02:00 AM

    Well i think the only thing we can learn from is History and how it repeats its self. Back in the early 1900s when we had a mass invasion of Italian, Irish, Scottish, Russian and all other walks of life come to New York we didnt say send them back. We infact welecomed them. We gave them SS we didn't tell them "Your taking our jobs" and why cause we had a different point of view of life. Why is it that we don't say that to the poor hard workers that don't claim taxes and our goverment keeps that money. Or to the poor person that donates there organs so that some white angery man may continue to live and infect others with there negativity. So ya run them out you think you know whats best but yet you ran our Nation in to a deprression but yet the illegals are the real issues. Its funny how the Governer of AZ has profit to be made in the capture and containment of the Illegals. Just remember they come in all colors brown, black, white and carma pays you back no matter your shade of color. How sad what ignorance has bought us.

  • Mexican American 08/04/2010 6:32:00 AM

    what happen to the Land of the Free? no matter where we come from every one should be given a chance. Mexaican, Caucasian, African, Asian no matter what the race evil is every where and it will not go away because we do not obey Gods laws. drugs and violence is blamed on the Mexican! Why? they come here poor and struglin looking for a way to survie. How and where do you think they get these drugs and weapons? Think about it!

  • Michaelmoses 08/04/2010 6:11:00 AM

    Focusing our frustration on the illegals in this country will not be nearly as effective as focusing it on the people we elect to run this country. Arguing with illegals is the height of ignorance. They are patently guilty law breakers. They will suck America dry if America doesn't shut them out of here. they strive here because business wants them here. Not the average hard working American citizen. There is nothing good to be derived from their being here in America for American citizens. They have overstuffed our cities, making even traffic noxious. They get many of our jobs because the generation that is being hired are the 25 to 40 age group who don't have health problems, credit history problems and criminals records--they were the children born on this land, that their illegal alien parents came here to birth to ensure or increase their chance to remain here. Perpetuated fraud. I've heard all of their arguments, and all of them sink in quicksand. Stating that illegals will be reluctant to give information about crimes is an argument not to enforce SB 1020? That is really scrapping from the bottom of the pot. If they're illegal, they're not providing evidence to police anyway! They need to go home and fix up THEIR country. Protest in Mexico about all the issues they need to make life there better for them. Don't steal into another country sucking up its resources, impoverishing it's citizens to absorb your people, falsely asserting you in some way make it better for us by your being here? I grew up in a family of 8 and with every child that was born, it was more difficult for us to have our needs met. Overcrowding is a drain on all resources in this country. Who thought that we would actually be invaded. A people whose numbers multiplied enormously, primarily due to its faith--while other races were stabilized by abortion, hispanics, mostly catholics, were turning out children like there was no stopping. One of the reasons our healthcare system is screwed up now. How this affects all of us. So do not say what illegals have done to add to this country. You have only taken away from it. That's why you came here. And that's what you've done. And you've been able to do it because of corporate America who wanted your cheap labor.

  • Anb1020 08/04/2010 6:04:00 AM

    Tracking the $700 Billion Bailout By MATTHEW ERICSON, ELAINE HE and AMY SCHOENFELD The government has provided money to hundreds of banks and a handful of insurers and automakers as part of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program. Some small firms have repaid the government, and many big banks have announced they intend to return the money. Check this link out and eat your heart out. http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/national/200904_CREDITCRISIS/recipients.html

  • Anb1020 08/04/2010 6:02:00 AM

    Many of us complained who got us to where we are today. We had a surplus he depleted it and gave us a deficit that made a black hole sucking all the money into space. Who was at fault OBAMA don’t think so it was the blue eye blond leadership? Let’s look at our leaders in our Stare John McCain claims in his political ads that he is GUARDING OUR BASES? What else has he done in our state of Arizona NOTHING, He has not brought any project or projects to Arizona he is a conservative yes tight as a beacon. Mc Cain in the decade as a senator has never endorsed or supported for those that serve our country? HE MUST BE A GUARD dog.

  • Anb1020 08/04/2010 5:46:00 AM

    Let me contribute this since your commnets have no foundation and my question is WHO WILL PAY FOR YOUE RETIREMENT? Your answer there will be none you are RIGHT you will be the next generation of homeless in America. Lets read this and then tell me how will you make out the lost. Ángel Martínez has done backbreaking work, harvesting asparagus, pruning grapevines and picking the ripe fruit. More recently, he has also washed trucks, often working as much as 70 hours a week, earning $8.50 to $12.75 an hour. Not surprisingly, Mr. Martínez, 28, has not given much thought to Social Security's long-term financial problems. But Mr. Martínez - who comes from the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico and hiked for two days through the desert to enter the United States near Tecate, some 20 miles east of Tijuana - contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system. Last year, Mr. Martínez paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes withheld from his wages. Yet unlike most Americans, who will receive some form of a public pension in retirement and will be eligible for Medicare as soon as they turn 65, Mr. Martínez is not entitled to benefits. He belongs to a big club. As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year. While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus - the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social Security Administration's projections. Illegal immigration, Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, co-director of immigration studies at New York University, noted sardonically, could provide "the fastest way to shore up the long-term finances of Social Security. Don't blame the borrowing to keep the country turn on there is no money in the USA. We have to borrow due to the last eight years. Were your kids will go to school? We are the first state in 200 years that have sold it's capital and most state buildings.

  • Henry 08/04/2010 4:16:00 AM

    If being against racist oppression is also being "ultra-liberal, pinko leftist liberal," then I have no problem with being called one.

  • Scooterbake 08/04/2010 3:47:00 AM

    Kick em all out. Live here in AZ first, then see how you like it.

  • Smandtl 08/04/2010 3:29:00 AM

    Seriously....it's called the SSA, which you can run someone's credentials...and guess what..they still get jobs. Because one family member has a "good SS card" then with all the maternal & fraternal names, they get away with more than 3 people using that SS#. Then the ones that cannot, they do the side job's and piece work from stolen SS#'s....you must think we are all idiots.

  • Gerardo1r 08/04/2010 3:17:00 AM

    people is so easy there is ten million of illegal people in the usa so why waste so much money in securing the border while on the other hand if they are charged one thousand dollars each yo get legal do the math but thats not it the trick is to really really enforce the e.verify so if everybody knwos that you can not find a job without proper documentation they will stop coming.........

  • doing "ONE OF THOSE JOBS" 08/04/2010 3:04:00 AM

    reply to Jrq23, Dude, proof read first...it's "bent" over not "bend" over, and I wont waste my time with the rest of your post. But your scrawny little degreed ass, made more than one error. Both my husband and myself are "degreed" & highly qualified for our industries. Yet we miss several employment opportunities, due to our inability, and according to you, stupidity for not being bi-lingual. We do not speak Spanish. Therefore my husband cannot effectively run his possibly legal or illegal "crew of Hispanic workers", due to his inability to communicate effectively with them at this time. If he were working in another country he would be required to learn the language of his assignment. We do agree with BV, when you come to our country, and plan to stay here to live, and not just visit...LEARN THE LINGO! Not the other way around. Most other countries learn English for our Tourist dollars, and they are not "required" to learn English. However notice the word "Tourist", that means that we go home to our country. Not just walk into another one, drop a kid, get flown by heliicopter, to have our faces splashed across the newspaper. If I did that in Mexico, I imagine if I were not shot on site, I would be tortured, and turned out. Mexican law states if you are in their country without your Visa & Passport, basically Illegally, then you go to jail. At least we are nice enough to give them a ride back to the border. And if we keep them, whether in prison or not, they and their families are provided for. We are a great nation, think about that every time you see FICA & STATE on your pay stub...or is it a draw until you get your commission??? For myself, I do not speak Spanish either. So therefore I miss out on the opportunity to refinance our country, and fatten the Lenders pockets, of all of the "home owners" that qualified for those lovely FHA loans, where citizenship is not an issue. You are an ignorant ass for thinking that is "only the jobs that we don't want". You are a fool. If it paid a decent wage, I would be more than happy to do them. Oh I forgot, I already do "those jobs" for free. I am a mother of 2, one of which is disabled. I have been blessed with a wonderful husband that works 2 jobs, because we are not of Hispanic or Latino descent, so we don’t quality for the free/subsidized day care that the state provides to all the ones that will do "those jobs". In addition my husband served his country to protect little pricks like you who have nothing better to do in your "degreed" cubicle all day, other than to look at porn, this website, and decide what club to go to tonight. Oh did I miss your mani-pedi appt too???? You do have a certain image to uphold, don’t you. Because you've got to look good to keep up with the Jones, and to brown nose your boss. You probably have stinky feet & sweat a lot. We are both "degreed" individuals. But we are not the right color. For the money that we make in this country to stay in this country, to stimulate the American economy. Not to have it sent back to Mexico or to provide the following: I recently noticed at the Workforce Center, that if I were of Hispanic or Latino Descent, even undocumented, I would qualify for an additional 13 weeks of unemployment to learn "English", and along with that, my family would qualify for not only the automatic’s, Nutritional Assistance (formerly the Food Stamp program) & medical AHCCS, but a block grant of $3000.00, and a Housing allowance too boot. This is why we "legal" American's work. To subsidize the Illegal Population in our state. Have you once thought of what it actually cost's the American citizen?? The American Economy. How bout this...any Illegal Immigrant, from any country that comes to America illegally, be required to enlist in the armed forces, serve a minimum of 8 years. 4-6 years Active Duty. Long enough to repay our country for all the free medical care, food stamps, education, separate classrooms for our new English learners, oh not to mention free tuition to our community colleges, and subsidized FHA loans. Then another 2 years in the reserves. That's about how long it takes Immigrants from countries other than Mexico, to come to America, whether it be via a work Visa, Visa and paying and an Immigration Attorney. Plus the Citizenship & English classes they must attend to become legal citizens of America. Oh and the bonus to that, they are required to follow the law, and they do work, and pay taxes to America, THEN send their money home to the “Old County“. Not just come & go across a border at their leisure. Seems like a fair trade to me. They should earn it. And to all the asshole's out there that hire illegal’s at Home Depot, for your landscaping & construction business's SCREW YOU TOO!!! In fact I'm LMAO while you are recovering from this economy & learning how to live without your nanny & landscapers. Recovering from a BK due to 125% LTV or more on your home. That HELOC was really worth it huh? Losing a home, your boats, big SUV's, the 2nd home, you purchased as an Owner Occupied with a Stated Income Loan & a Business License.......Honestly, I couldn't be happier for you. All that stress...couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of folks. And I doubt any of you bothered to learn Spanish either. We have 2 children, by choice. We cannot afford anymore. We believe that birth control, the military, and the law are there for a reason. So pull your ignorant, degreed head, out of your ass, YOU GET REAL, and take a look at what is really going on here. Not just in AZ, but in your country, AMERICA. You sound like a little bitch that feel's "entitled" to never have to serve his country either. You are probably some self made or spoiled little mommy's boy prick, with no calluses on his hands, and couldn't push a lawn mower to save his life. I'm all for the melting pot, but I do have a question for you. You do see that this country is overpopulated. How about we just put a cap on how many children you can have as a "legal citizen, that doesn't want to do “one of those jobs" so that you can support the Illegal Population, no matter which border they came across, or what boat, plane, car, truck, or van they used to get here. Because that's what your doing, without even knowing it, ding dong. Would that be a reasonable solution for you while this state & nation goes bankrupt? I doubt it, pussy...so STFU!!!

 
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