The Maine: With Pioneer, the Mesa Rockers Step Away From Warner Bros.

John O'Callaghan is beat. The 23-year-old singer has just returned from fronting his band, The Maine, on a quickie tour with Taking Back Sunday.

O'Callaghan slinks into a molded plastic chair at Cartel Coffee Lab in Tempe. He has the rock-star look down pat: a frayed denim vest over a leather jacket wrapped tightly around his rail-thin frame, shielding him from the early November chill. Around his neck hangs a Native American-style feather. "Reception was really, really good at most of the shows," he says. "There were some older kids, too, which we were happy about."

The "older kids" — most likely a reference to anyone north of 20 years old — have proved an elusive "get" for The Maine. The group formed in 2007 in Tempe and garnered significant tween attention with a pair of EPs, Stay Up, Get Down and The Way We Talk (the latter featuring an Akon cover), before signing with pop-punk label Fearless Records (Blessthefall, At the Drive In, Plain White T's) for the release of its debut full-length, Can't Stop, Won't Stop. The record sold well, and the band stepped up to the majors with 2010's Black & White, which was issued by Warner Brothers Records, who signed The Maine to a seven-album deal — a daunting prospect for a veteran act, let alone a group of 19-year-olds.

The Maine "on the beach."
The Maine "on the beach."

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The Maine is scheduled to perform Friday, January 6, at Clubhouse Music Venue in Tempe.

The band started work with producer Howard Benson (My Chemical Romance, Three Doors Down, Creed), aiming for a more mature sound in an attempt to draw fans outside the teenage market that helped the band achieve commercial footing. In a review of the record, iTunes said: "There's no trace of punk left in their approach . . . In fact, if the vocals had more of a twang, the record could pass for a modern country release. It will certainly appeal to the same kind of fans who like Taylor Swift — people who like solid, catchy songs, sung earnestly."

O'Callaghan agrees, somewhat to his chagrin.

"We tried to play the game," O'Callaghan says. "We felt like they knew what they were doing. We went and co-wrote, did that whole deal. And it was a huge learning experience, I think, just feeling it all out. In retrospect, I wouldn't change anything, because, obviously, you can't."

O'Callaghan feels that Black & White was "the right album to make," but the band had a different approach for its latest, Pioneer, which was released in early December. The Maine retreated to producer Colby Wedgeworth's studio in Sacramento to start work on the album without informing Warner Brothers of their intentions.

"We went in with no pressure. Whatever we were feeling at the time kind of came out. It's definitely going to surprise some people. People who are trying to hear our first EP or our first record; that's not going to happen."

The sessions yielded nine songs, which the band presented to an indifferent A&R staff at the label. "They all said the same shit."

Undaunted, the band returned to Wedgeworth's studio and recorded another 18 songs. "Nobody [working at the label now] worked [on] Black & White. They all got canned. So, our A&R is gone; everyone is gone. We have these people kind of, in essence, promising us the moon, and we bought into it . . . If it were a case where everybody was still there, still fighting for us, it would be different story. But . . . you know, we took the new songs to the label when our A&R was still working there, and he kind of had this weird reaction to it. He wasn't really about it. So, we were disheartened. We kind of resented the whole idea. That's when the whole roof fell in. We were just like, 'Fuck everybody.' You know? Why did [they] sign us in the first place if [they were] just going to tell us to be somebody else?"

Frustrated, the band fought to release the album, O'Callaghan says. Eventually, Warner Brothers agreed, but under the unusual condition that the band would self-release the record and that it would not count toward the seven records contractually owed to the label.

"You know, really, the whole experience with them and us felt like they patted us on the head and said, 'Okay, yeah, go ahead. This is really cute. Go ahead and do your thing. Put out your record, and you guys see what happens. Then you'll have to be back on the label.'

The situation is reminiscent of Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot saga, portrayed in grainy black-and-white detail in the 2002 film I Am Trying to Break Your Heart. In that case, the band turned a mildly experimental record (paid for by Warner Brothers) over to their label (Warner Brothers) only to have the record rejected, given back to the band, purchased by a Warner Brothers subsidy (Nonesuch), and released to great acclaim.

Of course, the parallels are hardly concrete.Why Warner rejected Pioneer makes little sense: It's less rustic than Black & White but is hardly a venture into uncharted experimental sounds or even a return to the band's pop-punk roots. Lead single "Don't Give Up on 'Us'" sounds like the kind of U2-meets-Springsteen pop that The Killers scored hits with, "My Heroine" goes for a nasty, buzzy modern rock sound, while "When I'm at Home" aims for classic rock, with a stomping Zeppelin vibe. "While Listening to Rock & Roll" — with its lyric "I can feel it in my bones / A little rock, a little roll" —sounds as if could be a CMT standard, as pop-country as Rascal Flatts, with a heartland lyric straight out of the Bob Seger songbook.

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Sneh Patel
Sneh Patel

Awkward how their first EP is actually called Stay Up, Get Down not Get Up, Stay Down

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