I would rather get into an elevator with ANYONE but G. Murray Snow!!!!!!!! Fairness in judgement? I don't think so.
By Ray Stern
By Ray Stern
By New Times
By Amy Silverman
By Stephen Lemons
By Stephen Lemons
By Monica Alonzo
By Chris Parker
Would you hop into an elevator with Hannibal Lecter? Trust Julian Assange with your most intimate secrets? Allow Jared Loughner access to a gun range?
Then, why would anyone ever let Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio give lip service to complying with federal Judge G. Murray Snow in the ACLU's big civil rights case, Melendres v. Arpaio, without an independent monitor being appointed?
Keep in mind that Arpaio has fought the lawsuit tooth-and-nail for six long years, during which his office has engaged in egregious, prejudiced policing toward Latinos.
The MCSO was caught destroying evidence in the case — records of stops made during the sweeps, which the plaintiffs had repeatedly demanded from Arpaio's chief pettifogger, Tim Casey.
As a result, Arpaio was sanctioned, and Snow essentially was allowed to presume that the documents Arpaio's deputies shredded would have helped the plaintiffs' case.
Safe bet, that. During the bench trial in July and August of last year, the plaintiffs' expert witness, Professor Ralph Taylor of Temple University, reported his findings from an exhaustive study of MCSO traffic stops.
Latinos were up to 39.5 percent more likely to be stopped during one of Arpaio's notorious Hispanic-hunting sweeps compared with dates one year earlier. The stops themselves lasted longer, too: On average up to two minutes, or 22 percent, longer.
The trial also included evidence of outright bigotry: offensive e-mails between deputies trading in anti-Hispanic ethnic humor, an immigration file filled with letters from outright racists complaining of too many Spanish speakers in one place, and proof that Arpaio's sweeps sometimes were suggested or petitioned for by like-minded bigots.
When Snow ruled in May of this year, he found the MCSO guilty of racial profiling and declared the agency in violation of the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable search and seizure, the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of equal protection under the law, and Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
The judge also concluded that the MCSO had violated the court's previous injunction, which forbade MCSO deputies from detaining people based on the belief that they were in the country illegally.
"Because," Snow wrote in his order of December 2011, "as a matter of law, such knowledge does not amount to a reasonable belief that the person either violated or conspired to violate the Arizona human smuggling statute or any other state or federal criminal law."
But a federal judge's order means little to Arpaio and his gang, and Snow acknowledged the devil he was dealing with in his May ruling.
"The evidence introduced at trial," he wrote, "establishes that, in the past, the MCSO has aggressively protected its right to engage in immigration and immigration-related enforcement operations even when it had no accurate legal basis for doing so."
Indeed, when Arpaio lost his grant of 287(g) street authority allowing around 100 of his officers to act as immigration cops under the aegis of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, he turned to his now-former Deputy Chief Brian Sands for legal justification to continue the sweeps.
Never that clever to begin with, Sands turned to another mental midget for help, MCSO Sergeant Brett "Shut Up" Palmer, notorious for once telling elected officials critical of the sheriff's racial-profiling ways to "shut up" during a public demonstration by MCSO deputies.
Palmer discovered the justification Arpaio needed on a nativist website, which told him there was a federal statute giving cops authority to enforce civil immigration law.
The statute was nonexistent, but Sands gave the justification to Arpaio, and Arpaio publicly used this to declare that "nothing will change," despite getting stripped of his 287(g) authority.
Fast-forward to June's hearing before Snow, where Arpaio's legal Lhasa Apso, Casey, declared, "The MCSO is out of the federal immigration enforcement business."
It took about a month from that hearing for Arpaio to get back to what he does best: arresting dishwashers, busboys, and cleaning ladies, under the guise of enforcing state ID theft and forgery statutes, with raids on a restaurant chain and on a local office-cleaning company.
Granted, the loophole is there for Arpaio to exploit. Melendres deals with Latino motorists, and Judge Snow has made clear that he has not enjoined Arpaio from enforcing state laws.
But the sweeps and the raids always have been two sides of the same nickel in Joe's pocket. Arpaio began the raids and the sweeps to capitalize politically on Arizona's anti-immigrant feeding frenzy.
In either enforcement action, rounding up brown people is the endgame. Which is why Arpaio never has been that interested in cuffing Anglo employers for accepting the false documents of their undocumented employees.
It's tough to exaggerate Arpaio's mendacity. For instance, as both sides in Melendres were negotiating over what they could agree to in a future order of the court, detailing what the MCSO must do to comply with Snow's injunctions, Arpaio's never-ending re-election campaign sent out a fundraising appeal, using Melendres as fodder to ask Joe's followers for more dough.
The letter, dated August 6, is signed by Arpaio and probably was authored by Joe's campaign czar, Chad Willems. Naturally, it's all about illegal immigration and how Arpaio will not stop fighting it.
Joe kvetches: "A federal judge recently ruled my office engaged in 'racial profiling,'" as the result of a lawsuit "filed by open-borders activists led by the ultra-liberal ACLU."
Arpaio states in the letter that he disagrees with Snow's ruling, but he will "abide by the decision until it is reversed by a higher court."
But that's merely an aside, allowing Arpaio some wiggle room if he's called on the remainder of the letter, in which he's defiant.
"Ultimately, they want to have a 'federal monitor' in my office looking over my shoulder, making everything I do politically correct," Arpaio snarls at one point. "I was elected by the people, and I won't stand for it."
Well, if Snow appoints a monitor for the MCSO to be the judge's eyes and ears in the case, as he's already said he's inclined to do, Arpaio certainly will stand for it. He doesn't have much choice. He lost, remember?
"I will never back down — not even one inch — when it comes to doing the job I was elected to do," Arpaio says at another point in the letter.
Arpaio's slippery language aside, does this sound like a guy who will voluntarily comply with Snow's orders without being forced to?
Perhaps, as he did with own co-authored Joe's Law, the sheriff will deny ever having read the letter. No doubt Willems handles such matters for him, just as Arpaio conveniently delegates authority to his flunkies, so he retains deniability.
I can only hope Snow is as impatient with Arpaio's excuses and games as a lot of us are.
Both Casey and Arpaio's friends in the media are squirming, arguing that because Arpaio is an elected official, Snow cannot or should not appoint a monitor.
But elected officials have to accept monitors in civil rights cases all the time, and these officials often bitch and moan about it, whether it's Mayor Michael Bloomberg in New York, apoplectic over a judge reining in the New York Police Department's stop-and-frisk policy, or Mayor Mitch Landrieu of New Orleans, outraged at the more than $8 million a court-appointed monitor for his city's police department will cost.
Like it or not, elected officials must obey the U.S. Constitution, from the president on down.
And if a majority of locals agrees with an elected official's unconstitutional practice, that's not a free pass. Rather it's an indicator that the electorate needs a remedial class in civics — which Snow should give Maricopa County very soon.
I would rather get into an elevator with ANYONE but G. Murray Snow!!!!!!!! Fairness in judgement? I don't think so.
Maricopa County, Arizona, Vermont and Connecticut under fire in the federal 11th circuit in Florida.
Maricopa County Attorney and his Detective Walker under fire in federal court (Miami)
Obviously, the writer of this article Mr. Stephen Lemons has no intention of writing an article that represents fair and balanced journalism on this matter of illegal aliens in the U.S.
Sheriff Arpaio bashing will not change federal immigration law and how it's enforced. Oh, you can play the "profiling" card all you want.
The illegals will never become U.S. citizens.
The U.S. House of Representatives has not let the "Pathway to Citizenship" bill passed in the Senate even come to the floor for a vote. That because the U.S. already has a pathway to citizenship.
And it does not include sneaking across the border. The mentality of "Oh. If I can live here illegally long enough and avoid detection, they'll think I'm a U.S. citizen by default." will never work.
Some of you want to believe that. Bueno suerte.
I think he wants a show-down with the Feds. He's gonna roll out his tank; the President will be forced to send in the troops; and racists everywhere will keep filling his coffers, while Maricopa County pays off all those civil judgments amounting to tens of millions of dollars. He's like a one-man Birmingham. On the other hand, PNT is obsessed with this greasy racist to the exclusion of all other stories. Maricopa County allowed a non-lawyer to play lawyer in death penalty cases during the Andrew Thomas death penalty case filing glut, and the AZ Supreme Court covered it up when I reported the grant fraud. Taxpayers have been paying a non-attorney an attorney salary for years. Small potatoes, I guess, compared to Joe; but these were death penalty cases. Hello, PNT?
Hannibal Lecter is a fictional character in a series of horror novels by Thomas Harris -- why would you include him in an article that you hope would be taken serious? It's not as if there aren't enough serial killers from the past to use. Do more research & avoid sensationalism. I'd respect the article more.
Nothing but having a dangerous beast in a short leash and beign Monitored. how about that JAF, nothing 2 say bitch. I guess U R 2 busy changing diapers ( D OL FART's, HILLFOLK's & D likes) 2 even post UR usual bullshit. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. LOOOOSSSEEERRS.
No one cares about the ugly appropriately named Lemons bore. Sheriff Joe gets more support every day. The 18% of self-identified US liberals according to 60 years polls are LOSERS and most couldn't get it up with a derrick. Mike Lacey flubbed it here in San Francisco and needs to wash his brown stained pink underpants.
Too bad that Judge Snow didn't keep an eye on the RACIST LOSER's minions, 'cause by now those shreders R probably working over time, since an AUDIT might B D next step. BTW, there's D posibility that officer"shut up" has been flying under D radar posting on this blog site.
The Monitor beign placed at MCSO is D toughest, so I heard, I hope he keeps the OLD FART in a short leash, giving him some wedgies, and make him clean his pigsty office, that ass smell is unbearable, since HILLFOLKREDNECK & THE OL' BITCH JAF might have been living there.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YES IT'S TRUE http://www.kpho.com/story/23301231/judge-monitors-will-watch-over-arpaios-office
Admit it, without Sherif Joe, your page clicks would be zero. You should pay the caudillo royalties. Or at least wear pink panties to honor him.
So Arpaio has a monitor now and the Hispanic's along with their illegal brethren can rest easy. The raid on Dannys carwash by the feds did more harm to the illegal immigrant community then anything Arpaio has done. Take away their job opportunities and most of the problem is solved.
and what exactly was 'unfair' about his judgement?
"The mentality of "Oh. If I can live here illegally long enough and avoid detection, they'll think I'm a U.S. citizen by default." will never work."
Good, since no one here is advocating that at all, no matter how much you attempt to spin the above article to say that, which it does not.
"Some of you want to believe that."
Nope, you are the only one wanting to believe something that is false like that.
Of course the narcissistic old man isn't happy Cozz.
I can't wait until the DOJ shoves their own monitor up the Old Fool's ass...
Naturally a federal indictment would be supremely better.
@Tim Fitchner, yeah Joke. let's start by rounding up Timmy ( if that's his real name) and his probably illegal spics relatives.
@Chuck Klee Yeah!!! Go Joe! Yeah, Go somewhere else, you sorry excuse for a law enforcement officer.
Yet another graduate of MCSO courses on "How to not be a Law Enforcement Officer"
@red.marcy.rand Your nasty..the only one with the nasty panties is you hoe..
@red.marcy.rand, What R U going 2 get 4 posting that bullshit? R u going 2 get 2 lick on 1 on Arpaio's saggy balls & a signed postcard, like HILLFOLKREDNECK supposedly does. LMFAO.
More support every day? Are you kidding? The latest poll on Aug. 22nd has 37% approval, 12% say he's doing just 'fair' and 42% disapproved of the sheriff.
Musicman, it's victory in Maricopa County day.
Of course a federal indictment for abuse of power would be supremely better.
I've got a fresh bottle of peppermint schnapps and steak in celebration.
@PincheKaboom There is always some bottom feeder with no ethical fabric willing to defend Joe, regardless of his racist conduct. These people are not interested in justice or fairness or the rule of law... they are only interested in furthering their agenda...
@PincheKaboom U ARE A DUMBASS DUDE ! NO ONE WANTS TO WEAR FUCKING PINK PANTIES !!!!!!
@john043012 You are human garbage!
@yourproductsucks, YES IT DOES, just the mere presence of the Monitor will disrupt his corrupt practices, probably forcing him 2 change his after hours posible KKK meetings 2 another place. IT DOES.
@yourproductsucks A monitor will definitely change some things like how traffic stops are conducted and recorded by MCSO. MCSO thugs will now have to call in why they are stopping a vehicle, records and evidence that Arpaio's cowardly staff was already found to illegally destroy will now be saved.
The lawsuit has already stopped the sweeps permanently. Thats a fact and a matter of public record. That was an order Judge Snow had already ruled on in 2011 and now it is a permenent order.
It will not change the sick and twisted work-site raids because the lawsuit started before they did. But stay tuned. This is just the beginning.
@yourproductsucks You are right YPS, Arpaio's culture of abuse and incompetence has had over 20 years to infect all levels of the MCSO and it's going to take a lot more than a monitor to clean up the cesspool this agency has become.
@yourproductsucks Not having one will definitely not change anything. Monitors have worked in other cases,why is Arpaio any different ?
@yourproductsucks Easy to say, but only time will tell.
Anything that puts another nail in the assholes coffin is better than nothing.
@MaskedMagician1967 you got some for me....i ll drink to that..
@sfefeedback Two more pathetic fanbois, welcome Allanbartlett, now stick your nose deep into Joe's coal chute. Smell the supremacy? Taste the authority? Now pull those pink panties over your little spunk covered bocas and squeal like piglets!
@IdontRecall Haha, my two pathetic fanbois chime in. How about sucking Joes big white palo a little harder. You know you like it. Just liek you love wearing the pink panties. Maricones! Andale pues! al otro lado de la frontera, pinche mojados.
@IdontRecall Or it will confirm the lack of corrupt practices within the Office.
You all are going to be bitterly disappointed with the end result of this, I assure you of that.
@shadeaux14 You may be right, despite being the left's version of joearpaiofan.
@Bnbk in my opinion all a monitor will accomplish is to verify Joe's non-compliance. i am still all for a monitor, because then we will have someone who's job it is to record his non-compliance for further legal action, but it wont make him suddenly comply. i think it will make him do the complete opposite, he will try to buck against the system even harder which will eventually damage him further (and hopefully get someone to actually step in and take action)
@Bnbk What are you wanting the Court Monitor to accomplish? Maybe you have a different perception of the outcome that everyone screaming for a monitor is expecting.
A monitor won't change arpaio or his practices. A monitor won't rid Maricopa County of the elected Sheriff.
Napolitano spent some time "monitoring" the Office while she worked in the AG's Office...she found no wrong doing and subsequently received the Governorship riding the endorsement of Arpaio.
@FuckJoeArpaio YPS is actually right. Joe wont change his ways because he is being monitored, but what happens to him afterward when he fails to meet set standards will be interesting. one can only hope it will be a stripping of powers or something other than just fining him which we will end up paying......................................yet again, and again, and again
I agree 100% Cozz.
With the shit I got on the hateful old man (and I mean good shit), a monitor is the least of his problems.
@PincheKaboom., How do U kinow that D JOKE has a "big white palo?", seems that U"ve been there just doing that, pinche chupavergas. Probably that's when U wear UR pink thongs, while on all 4s, showing UR big brown eye, telling the JOKE: esto es lo que quieres papi???. N-Way, good luck crossing D border. pinche chupavergas.
Melendres vs. Arpaio already confirmed what MCSO is and the bitter disapointment is coming from MCSO. The cameras and monitor will, indeed, make sure you behave now YPS.
Looks like the only place you will soon be able to bully people is on-line while hiding your real identity. You should be real careful where you lay your smart phone down these days though...just sayin.
@danzigsdaddy reasonable suspicion is necessary for every traffic stop. Telling the driver why they were pulled over prior to asking for thier information is merely a formality as it's normal to tell them why they were stopped.
YPS is not only part of that agency, YPS is part of the problem.
From his/her/it's comments and attitudes, it's clear that, assuming YPS is a patrol officer like claimed in the past, they are one of the patrol officers who does exactly the type of profiling and civil rights abuses that MCSO is now getting slapped for.
There is no way possible that anyone could defend MCSO to the extent that YPS does, without being one of the guilty parties and even worse, knowing what they are doing is wrong and just not caring since they think the party will never stop, thanks to Joe Arpaio protecting them.
@danzigsdaddy YPS is part of the agency that was found guilty of racial profiling and destroying evidence specifically for the very proceedings they were found guilty of. Why you continue to kiss his ass is anyones guess. He's a cowardly troll representing MCSO.
Stop blaming others for Arpiao's bad behavior. He was found guilty in court and his appeal is nothing more than a waste of tax payers dollars.
When his deputies stop being such cowards and start blowing the whistle on him, thats when MCSO will gain any respect from the community.
The first thing one learns when training or practising legal observing is that cops (like most criminals) generally behave better when they know they are being filmed. It automatically stops lots of bad policing, racial profiling and abuse of power.
It stops lots of abuse from ever happening. It has always been the number one reason I encourage everyone to always film the police.
Thats what filming police accomplishes and it doesn't matter if its legal observers with cameras or police being forced to film themselves.
It's also clear in many examples where Phoenix PD, MCSO, DPS have shot and killed unarmed people and gotten away with it that those stops or interactions were not filmed and the only witness's are the cops that have no respect for human life or the truth.
Thats why PLEA is opposing cameras for Phoenix PD. MCSO has fuaght with, threatened and harrassed legal observers at all but the last few sweeps stopped by this order. That is a well documented fact.
YPS, MCSO needs to repair its image and its standing within Maricopa County. I fully believe that the monitor will help do that.
MCSO needs to show through its actions that it is a credible and professional police agency. Doing shit like ignoring sex crimes against children and rounding up only Hispanics during raids are the reason why a monitor is even being appointed.
Joe has a chance to save face and work with the monitor to repair and improve his relationship with the community. As the duly elected sheriff, he is ultimately responsible for his agency's actions. If he hopes to win another election (assuming he's running again) he needs to utilize this opportunity to fix what's wrong with his agency.
@yourproductsucks whats your take on the objecting to having a reason for pulling over a driver before even approaching him or her? (asking this question respectfully) as a LEO, i would like your opinion on it
@MaskedMagician1967 Those who hate MCSO will continue to do so, as most of the hatred is misplaced and based on sensationalism. Haters will dismiss the ultimate findings of the monitor.
@dennis20 MCSO will most likely have to film every stop. This practice has already helped clean up other LE agencies which is why cops are so afraid of it.
What the cameras will show is that by and large the MCSO like most agencies, are doing things the right way. It will discredit the ancedotal evidence that is held on to by haters of authority, like yourself, and the general public will turn back to ignoring the petulent children like yourself. There is nothing to fear from this. You tend to project your fear and cowardice on others. Man up.
YPS, I would hope that the monitor will help MCSO improve its relationship with the community. As it stands now people are disgusted with MCSO and its practices.
Forcing Arpaio to change isn't part of the monitor's plan I presume.
@yourproductsucks @Bnbk So what is your point YPS? Anyone with half a brian knows the monitor wont change everything. This lawsuit wasn't about everything. It will change some things. It was a victory for the plaintiffs and a colossal failure for MCSO and the racist way its been conducting itself over the years.
Some things already changed because of it and more will. by order of federal judge is on its way. Either way, that monitor will be part of MCSO for the next several years, with or without Arpaio's blessing or re-election.
MCSO will most likely have to film every stop. This practice has already helped clean up other LE agencies which is why cops are so afraid of it.
If you are basing your argument on Napolitano stepping in to save Arpaio's ass several years ago, you are hard up for any evidence that this lawsuit wasn't a success for those already found to have been victimized by Arpaio and his cowardly staff.