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Tim Hecker Crashes Into FORM Arcosanti With Japan-Inspired Album Konoyo

Tim Hecker
Tim Hecker Courtesy of Tim Hecker
Tim Hecker, the Canadian electronic musician, composer, and researcher, calls to apologize for missing a scheduled interview time — he was just in a car accident.

"Just a fender-bender," he says. Apparently, he had an incident in his rental car in Montreal while driving home.

It’s hard to resist car-crash metaphors when describing Hecker’s music, which is difficult to explain but easy to understand. Conflicting melodies, timbres, and tones, both acoustic and electronic, coalesce within the densely layered walls of sound on his records and crash over the listener with long-lasting impact. There are no lyrics, just a force of pure sound, and that’s the way Hecker likes it.

“I feel that my role in the conversation of music is to, say, lapse and leave people to connect the dots in their own ways and meanings,” he says. “It’s always been my way to not connect the dots for people, because I feel I don’t like prescriptive art; I don’t like fully triangulated meaning systems; I don’t like, you know, pure calligraph of intent. I like things that make you confused and bewildered or could splay off into 15 different meanings depending on who the person is and what their background is. Does that make sense?”



Hecker often uses his gut when making decisions about his music and the way it’s presented. The cover art for his 2013 album, Virgins, is an iPhone picture he took of a cloth-covered statue of the Virgin Mary in the Duomo di Milano after he noticed it resembled a photo from Abu Ghraib. It had nothing to do with the record’s interpretation of American minimalist music; he simply saw it and thought it fit.

His latest album, Konoyo, is a take on gagaku, an ancient form of Japanese orchestral music that was introduced to him by his late friend and fellow composer Jóhann Jóhannsson. To record, he and a group of gagaku musicians decamped to a Buddhist temple in Nerima ward, a sleepy suburban sector of Tokyo, to figure out how to fuse the two very different sonic styles. 

"I kind of got put onto it as a challenge to myself, also to do something different, also non-Western, but also like a radically different approach to sound and space and rhythm. And I make my musical work quite dense and overloaded sometimes, and a lot of the approaches were the opposite in terms of what the musicians were used to. And, I don’t know, it was like a perfect experience for me — a challenge."

Certain problems were solved quickly — he says he came up with the track names in about 45 seconds — but others required more thought.

“I always kind of come at things as like a kind of puzzle in my brain,” Hecker says. “Konoyo was like pulling back the layers and leaving things and not being scared about making things that are more barren and that wouldn’t have as much complexity in a superficial way.”


Gagaku
uses traditional wind, string, and percussion instruments: the plucked biwa lute, the taiko drum, the shakuhatchi flute, and the sho, a mouth organ made of 17 bamboo pipes that emits an otherworldly drone. It is an utterly distinct and powerful genre of music, perhaps the closest one can get to paradise using sound alone.

It's "very difficult to integrate," according to the composer, owing to everything from tuning (Japanese instruments are tuned 10 hertz sharper than Western ones, resulting in a totally different sound) to the uniqueness of the instruments’ tones.

"Sho was the hardest of all the instruments I worked with, and the one I totally used least, I would say, on record,” he says, “just because the harmonics are so saturated but also so fragile.”

Despite these challenges, the sessions for Konoyo were fruitful. The record was released September 28 last year by the ambient label Kranky, and a companion piece, Anoyo, is due out this Friday, May 10. He also reconvened the album's musicians for a series of live sets as the Konoyo Ensemble. Soon he’ll bring the show to FORM Arcosanti for what's sure to be an utterly unique experience. They might even bring out the taiko.

FORM Arcosanti 2019. Friday, May 10, through Sunday, May 12, at Arcosanti, 13555 South Cross L Road, Mayer; experienceform.com. Sold out.
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Douglas Markowitz was born and raised in Broward County, Florida, he studied at Sophia University in Tokyo before graduating with honors from the University of North Florida with a bachelor's degree in communications. He began writing for Miami New Times while in college and served as their music and arts editorial intern in 2017.